Friday, January 27, 2012

Bobby Engram named as WR coach

In one of the worst secrets known to man, Bobby Engram was named as the Panthers WR coach.  This is a great hire for various reasons.  One of the most obvious reasons is that he is an established college star and longtime NFL receiver.  That goes a long way in recruiting, especially for receivers like Robert Foster.  Another reason why this is a great hire is that being a well known former Penn State star, the kids, dads, uncles, etc. in the Penn State territory of central and eastern PA will be enamored with having him show up at their house.  Hopefully Paul Chryst sees that and uses Engram a lot in those areas.

41 comments:

  1. Good news. Welcome Coach Engram.

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  2. With all of the other commotion going on at Penn State and now Rutgers, this could all bode well for Pitt. I personally like Chryst's silent approach to putting this team together. I also like the western PA riff-raff heading off to the MAC schools for the sole reason of most likely getting early playing time, so they won't have to contend for a starting spot at Pitt (says alot about their desire to compete and earn a spot at Pitt......afraid I guess?)Not sure of what Holgersen is brewing up down on the farm at WVU????? (i.e., who their starting QB will be, etc.) but I'd die if I had to sit by as a WVU fan and continue to watch this guy brood and grimmace on the sidelines.........still, his team did put a whippin' on Clemson during the bowl season, so that should give them some juice heading into a new season.

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  3. By the way, in case people missed it, RB Leo Musso and K Jack Russell, two Pitt targets, are going to Wisconsin. Russell chose to be a preferred walk-on rather than get a full ride from Pitt. Also, DT Terrell Jackson just got the Michigan State offer he wanted and he's expected to commit to the Spartans this weekend.

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  4. Do you think there are any Rutgers kids Pitt is going to go after (or want)?

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  5. I'm sure Denman for sure. Maybe too late for the others. Tough to convince a kid in a few days when you never even talked to them before. Recruiting takes months and even years. But like I said before, I'd guess that Denman will probably stay at Rutgers.

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  6. Someone posted that the DL coach is a Holcomb, defensive assistant on NY Giants... WVU grad, coached in various PA colleges, etc.

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  7. Cris, rippy has a final three now. Is pitt one if them?

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  8. I posted on twitter last week that it will be Holcomb. Another young coach. Hopefully telling people he coached for the Super Bowl champ NY Giants this year will help in recruiting.

    Pitt is in the final three for Rippy. Pitt, WVU, and Arizona.

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  9. Chris, thanks. Is he going to announce on signing day?

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  10. Rippy may not qualify or clear NCAA clearinghouse. Same with Geter.

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  11. Actually he said Sunday night he will tell the team he picked. No idea when he will announce it publicly though. Maybe that night.

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  12. I think Rippy will qualify. At this point, I would be a little surprised if Geter is at Pitt next year.

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  13. Even if Pitt doesn't manage to get Denman they are still set to have an OL full of massive run blockers for the next season. I think it bodes well for the kind of offense Chryst is likely to bring.

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  14. This could be a small class coming in because they may lose more players than they are getting, not to mention that it wasn't a big class before Chryst came in in anyway. For that reason, I think you could see a fully loaded class next year as far as numbers and I suspect to see a good number of linemen.

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  15. Cris:

    What background does Ingram have with respect to recruiting prowess. All due respect I don't think his previous Penn State past means much to kids who don't even know who he is?

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  16. I coached against Rippy. He is good. However, I would not be too upset if he doesn't choose Pitt.

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  17. If a kid is from Penn State territory they probably know about Engram and if they don't then their coaches, dads, uncles, and the rest of his family will know. And being a longtime NFL player will mean a lot especially if he's recruiting a WR.

    As for Rippy, he has a lot of talent but he's underachieving so that's always a red flag. But I had people at the time tell me the same thing about Brandon Lindsey so you never know.

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  18. Chris, do you get any vibe from rippy? Any indication as to where he'll end up?

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  19. No, I don't think he even knows yet.

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  20. Interesting article in ESPN magazine received today. It cites studies made on recruiting classes that show a weak correlation between class ratings and the subsequent success on the field of the teams. All this angst by my fellow Pitt alumni over recruiting seems to be a waste of energy.

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  21. While I don't think the fans should have angst, I don't think you can say because there is a weak correlation between class rankings and success, that there is no reason to at least be a little bummed if this class does not end well.

    While I didn't read the article in question, it sounds like the real indictment is against recruiting sites, which I agree with. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If these people from these recruiting sites were great judges of talent they would be working in a college program or in the NFL. There's a reason why none of these people were ever hired professionally to be a scout. And before anybody says I do the same thing, I don't. I've always said I'm not a scout. My ratings comes from talking to college coaches, high school coaches, and professional scouts like Joe Butler. What amazes me is these recruiting sites don't even ask the opinions of college coaches. They have the chutzpah to independently rate players as if they know just as much as the professionals.

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  22. It appears Pitt pulled the ship from Geter..
    reading between the lines of Geter tweets..

    I'd love to see that ESPN article... i looked for it and didn't find it.
    In my analysis, there is a strong correlation to class ranking and team ranking for top 25 and you have to use a 3 year trailing average of class rank. A 3 year trailing average assumes starters are soph, jr, sr...

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  23. Chris, if pitt pulled geters schollie does that hurt their chances with rippy?

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  24. Doke-
    With regard to your tweet about Ohio State courting Foster, is there any indication that Chryst has done the same? Or is this another example of him being flatfooted in recruiting?

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  25. I seriously doubt that Pitt is recruiting Ohio State just as hard right now. They are too busy with this current class apparently. They can't let Ohio State get a foothold.

    If not wanting Geter costs them Rippy then so be it. They can't bring a kid in they don't want just to get another kid.

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    1. That's kind of scary if what they are achieving in recruiting now represents their best, focused efforts. Graham had landed what, a half dozen kids at this point including Jones and Bennett?

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  26. The article about recruiting classes correlated with Top 25 rankings is in this weeks SI, not ESPN Mag. The one with Brady on the front that says "Rematch". In most cases, for most teams, higher recruiting class meant higher rank. Schools like Texas and FSU were considered underachievers.

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  27. Chris, has pitt made ANY contact with foster since chryst has been hired. Its scary that pitt could let foster slip away

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  28. Also, are pitt coaches visiting jj denman? I thought he was sticking with rutgers

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  29. I don't understand the hire of DL coach Brekerfield...
    He has never been east of the Mississippi...
    frankly, never east of montana!!!

    pk, perhaps you hadn't got the memo... Rutgers Schiano resigned... coaching search... rutgers commits in play.

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    1. This new DL coach is very close to Mike Riley. Mike Riley is very close to PC. That's how it works in the real world.

      http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=6137290

      http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2011/09/oregon_state_beavers_mike_rile_1.html

      The answers aren't always given to you -- you need to search for them.

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  30. I don't get it either. I'm beginning to think that Chryst doesn't know many coaches.

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    1. the connection is Mike Riley -- this DL coach needed a job since UCLA is changing everything, and he was left out in the cold -- Riley probably called his old friend PC and told him the guy needed a job. That's sometimes how it works -- it's a big network.

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  31. Joe d, perhaps you didnt know this... Jj denman said............ After schiano resigned................. That he was................... Sticking with.............................. rutgers.

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  32. Denman can say whatever he wants. That doesn't mean the Pitt coaches can't keep trying.

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  34. Like I said before, I seriously doubt that Denman would change again.

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  35. Every time Denman commits somewhere, there is a coaching change that follows. The good news is that if he changes his mind again and commits to Pitt(which is entirely possible), he would not curse this staff.

    As far as recruiting Foster is concerned, Ohio State will always be a threat to our local kids. That said, the OSU program continues to tinker on the boundaries of penalties and violations. If that doesn't scare a kid off, nothing will. At the end of the day, if you are good enough to get into the league, the league will find you. For kids in need of serious training and coaching up, Pitt provides a real nice staff, especially along the line with sir Bostad.

    Top that with QB, RB and now solid WR coaching, and you have a real nice opportunity to stay close enough to the family so they can see you mature into decent young men and decent NFL prospects if you have the heart and desire to follow that dream.

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