Random thoughts on the Pitt football and basketball programs
wtf? I know he was a shotgun center but we're gonna need bodies. The fact that these guys are bailing to lesser schools makes me wonder if the coaches are being lukewarm to them for good reason? I need something positive to happen.
He is a 280lb Center. Of all the recent decommits, he is by far the least impactful, even with the need for more O-Linemen
With respect, I think it's the other way around. I think this is a real kick in the nards. We need OL far more than a LB and a small WR, good as they might be. A 280-pound center in HS is a big dude.
I liked the Chryst hire...now I'm really starting to wonder. Cook only had offers from Miami, OH and Youngstown State - besides Pitt. Two kids now that decommitted for garbage MAC schools. Denman looking at Rutgers...ridiculous. These guys better be meeting with and calling these kids 24-7. I'll really be ticked off if we end up with talentless bodies to fill the scholarhip quota. Don't hand out all of the ships this year, if there aren't enough deserving kids. Save them for next year, when the coaches will have a whole year to recruit. This year is starting to feel like last year again. Every time I look at the rivals site, we lose another kid. I can understand with the coaching fiasco last year, but this year? We had a coach with a good reputation in place, with plenty of time to recruit these kids. Is his lack of charisma already starting to harm the program? Still no D-Line coach or receivers coach? Come one. State Penn hired a coach well after us and put a staff together before us. Their recruiting is picking up steam and ours is sputtering out.I am sooooooooo tired of the disappointment!!!!
6-2 is still pretty short for an OL in a power running attack. Looking at his other offers its probably best that he goes elsewhere.
I agree - stop the panic and wait for on field results
If we have guys fleeing as if on an Italian cruise ship (with, perhaps, a more competent captain of the ship than ours?) for MAC schools, that's beyond disconcerting, it's full-on alarming.A good measuring stick lies about 100 miles NE of Pitt. Even PSU is kicking our [butt] despite having The Scandal to overcome and not having a full-time head coach on campus. Sheesh...I'm sure their original goal was to improve on the recruits that Graham & Company lined up. Plan B was to try to hold the class together. Looks like we're on to Plan C, but I hesitate to ask what that might be...Is it too late to see if Christobal is still interested? Another collosal blunder?I lived thru the Paul Hackett era. Yes, sure, it's early. But for right now, the trend is identical. The only difference is the last name.
It's getting a little embarrassing that every time a recruit decommits, people hear start to tear him down. Maybe, just maybe, the problem is the new coaching staff's ability to recruit. From what Doke has told us, Chryst wasn't burning up the phones until well after he was hired.And Doke, when are we allowed to press the panic button? You keep saying--understandably--that this staff still could build a respectable class. But days are going by and other programs--including PSU--ARE building classes. Say what you will about Fraud Graham, but at least he could recruit.
Let's just hope for the best, no doubt that'll carry the day. Recruiting is overrated, it's for MAC teams. Far better to bring in a bunch of slow smurfs and just coach 'em up [sarcasm]And hey, look at the bright side: there are PLENTY more zero-star recruits for the offering to replace the 3-4 star recruits we're losing! Unless, of course, they too opt for MAC schools....
Is there any reason to believe that Chryst has a plan. He said he would offer all of Graham's Kids scholarships but maybe he wasnt interested in some of these Decommitts and is planning up the spots with his type of players. Lets hope that's whats going on here.
Imma Man! Im 40!Jan 23, 2012 05:08 PM"Let's just hope for the best, no doubt that'll carry the day. Recruiting is overrated, it's for MAC teams."PITT is a MAC team, they just happen to play in the Big East.
Like I said on twitter, I don't mind if the staff feels some commits aren't right for Pitt so they let them go, as long as they find equal players that do fit their system. And as of now that doesn't look like it's going to happen.
I'm not buying that Chryst doesn't really want these kids that are decommitting so that he can make room for his kind of players. Wouldn't we be hearing from Doke about some real possibilities if that were the case? Doke made a top ten list and other than a few, who don't really seem the least bit interested in Pitt, I'm not seeing enough to eat up all of the scholarships even if they all said yes to Pitt.
The booster who got his way by ram-rodding Chryst to the forefront (I forget his name, doesn't matter)? Maybe he has some stroke left, can get ahold of Chryst and explain to him he's the jefe now. Explain to our shiny new coach that [booster dude] used up a lot of chits to get him this gig, and he's screwing it up already.Nobody's gonna bring him players to coach up like they did as Wiscy. At Pitt he'll only be able to eat what he catches. Based on early returns, he could become very skinny....
Let's not get crazy. It's way too early to see how good this staff will do in recruiting in the future. It's been a slow start but until the signatures come in we won't know where they stand. And the best recruits (Voytik, Shell, Bisnotwaty, D.Davis) are still committed, and Holtz will probably commit. Something tells me that Pitt will get some good recruits and people are going to say that I said Chryst can't recruit. I said nothing of the sort. I'm only talking about Pitt's recruiting at this very moment. I didn't make any predictions for the future, or even two days from now. Pitt could have a top 10 recruiting class next year for all we know and he may counter all of the losses this season yet. Who knows? Slow starts doesn't necessarily mean slow throughout Chryst's tenure.
Chris - do you know for sure that they lost him as opposed to letting him go elsewhere ... Or are you speculating?Also - any chance we get the kid from Lebo to stay home instead of going to Wisc?
Apparently Chryst told him he was too short even though he's 6'2". He's also 300 pounds now for those wondering.
Bet he wishes he had Cook rather than no one, since Denman is gone now.
LOL!Why would Chryst tell him he was too short!We are down to 16 recruits!We will see next week if he can bring anyone to the table but you have to admit the results are less than stellar so far with very few prospects becoming enamored with Paul!
More like 5'10" 250lbs... Give PC credited for being honest with kid
Cook is at least 6'1" and nearly 300 pounds now. That's from somebody on the Pitt staff. All you need to do is look at him an you can see he is heavy.
I remember message boards and even the official program guide always listed John Malecki at 6'2" or even 6'3". Malecki was lucky if he was 5'10". So if they are saying this kid is 6'2" but Chryst is saying too short, reality is he is probably in the Malecki range of 5'10"
Instead of looking at these few kids who went to MAC schools as Pitt losing out to a MAC school - what about the fact that maybe Chryst wasnt interested because the kids in question are MAC quality...Im not upset when a kid picks a MAC school over Pitt in this instance, because maybe the new staff is setting higher standards for on-field performance. If Graham was still the coach, then yes, I might wonder why a MAC school got a player that Pitt was recruiting.I would be worried a lot more if Pitt is getting kids who chose Pitt over a MAC or Sun Belt school, which was the case more times than not under Walt Harris.
Chryst is saying too short because Bostad likes his centers to be tall for some reason. His last one was 6'5".
Cook was one player that boggles my mind when he was chased away. Pitt needs a center and how hard would it be to convert from shotgun to pro set???If this coach was Noll he would have cut Mike Webster and the center [who was 6'2"] who took over from him. This one stinks.
I hope these defections are not a bad omen. If they're leaving because the staff thinks they're not worth paying attention to, that's one thing. However, if they're leaving because the staff isn't paying attention, that's another.I happened to see Coach Chryst at 6:30 am Mass recently. Hopefully, he's getting up that early to get on the recruiting trail, or keep the current crop in place.I want Coach Chryst to succeed, even though I thought Cristobal was the better choice, but it all comes down to recruiting. I hope Chryst and his staff are up to the challenge.
The kids that have left were slow recruited by the current staff. If you think PC and his staff haven't been looking at the current recruiting class (at least on tape) and making their own decisions you're kidding yourself. Some of these kids fit a spread offense and not a pro-set, which is why PC and staff didn't keep in touch and basically tried to be honest with them and encourage them to look elsewhere. Cook etc. are not big losses for this class, PC is at least looking at what he has and what is coming and making objective judgements on these kids. Just holding together a class for name's sake doesn't prove anything.