Monday, February 6, 2012

Eddie Faulker leaves Pitt

Eddie Faulkner was hired to be Pitt's new RB coach but he didn't last long.  He's now off to his alma mater, Wisconsin, where he will be the TE coach.  Personally, I find this to be a blessing in disguise because this is the perfect time to hire a coach with Maryland or New Jersey ties.  I don't know who that person is, but no more people with ties to Hawaii and Idaho.  Maryland and New Jersey is loaded.  I would find the best person I can find for one of those two places and then hire him.  Getting into one of those areas, and actually both areas is essential but I'll take one for now, is crucial to the program.

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  1. I agree...
    A college coach needs to be one of 2 things..
    1. Great position coach or
    2. Great recruiter.

    The DL coach is neither. He was demoted to Operations at UCLA after 1 year and new coach. He has not been at any college longer than a year.

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  2. Time to make it right. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise.

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  3. Chris,

    What was the rationale for this hire, or for the DL for that matter? I have not heard much about either. If they have not established themselves as good position coaches, what do they bring to table? It certainly is not recruiting connections. Are you aware of any outreach to Gattuso before Pitt made their hire?

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  4. There's a recruiter who has NJ locked down AND has coached running backs -- so, can we PLEASE get Jeff Hafley back?!

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  5. ^^^^^
    Agree with this comment completely! Do it now before someone else hires him.

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  6. The rationale is Chyrst doesn't seem to know many coaches. He is hiring people who either he knows or knows through somebody else. That's fine when it's a Bostad or Rudolph, but he really has to put more effort into filling out his staff. If he can find a RB coach with great recruiting ties then all is forgiven, but if he gives the job to a friend of a friend with recruiting ties to Alaska then he has a lot to answer for.

    I don't even know if Pitt could get Hafley away from Rutgers. But Halfley isn't a RB coach so they won't be going after him anyway.

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    1. C'mon Chris????? Chryst "doesn't know many coaches?" I'm not buying that at all. None of us has the inside scoop or is able to get inside the Chryst's mindset to know why he hires who he hires. The guy is the OC at Wisconsin and "doesn't know many coaches???" That's bizarre. It's all mere speculation, which makes for good blogging. I'd speculate that Johnny Majors didn't have too many big name coaches on his staff when he took the PITT coaching job in the 1970's.

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    2. Hiring a guy with Hawaii and Idaho ties that couldn't last more than one year at UCLA is all I need to know about Chryst's hiring process.

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    3. yeah, what he said. LOL!!!

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    4. Chris,

      when you say "he couldn't last more than one year at UCLA" does that mean he got fired? Resigned that position? Got homesick? As we see with many coaches these days, one year and done (whether it's Lane Kiffin or the Fraud Todd is now becoming the norm.)Is UCLA's program that much less than Pitt's? Is Rick Neuheisel much worse than the Fraud (probably,) but the guy was considered a top talent for a while.
      Do you know this coach or any of his colleagues who've ripped him either publicly or behind closed doors.
      Shoot.........even Sal Sunseri landed an assistant coaching gig at Bama by simply ponying up his kid to Nick Saban.

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  7. I just hope that chryst goes out of his sort of circle of coaches that he knows and finds someone whos a great recruiter. They have good recruiters but they dont have a phenom who can get some of md's or nj's best.

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  8. Chris, My sentiments exactly! I would like to see someone who knows, and has inroads in New Jersey. Pitt had gotten a lot of good players from New Jersey during the Wannstedt years. This past year Rutgers cleaned house, even with their head coach leaving. If not New Jersey, then Florida or Maryland. They have all the major coaching slots filled, now they need to bring in somone who will pay dividends.

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  9. Who is out there that would take a RB coaching position and be a top recruiter in the NJ, MD, VA region? Wouldnt most of these hires already be locked up?

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  10. Steal them with more money. Be aggressive.

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  11. NJ is not that great of a recruiting area... I live there... HS football here sucks in central/jerseyshore NJ.... There are perhaps a dozen schools in NJ that produce BCS level players... Don Bosco and a few up north and scatter in between.
    Below are stats by state of recruits per rivals.
    This includes D1 BCS and FCS committs.
    PA - 107
    NJ - 73
    MD - 117
    VA - 112
    I'd rather see someone with MD and VA connection... than NJ connection.

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  12. I'm not talking about quantity, I'm talking about quality, and every year NJ has a few dozen top prospects. If Pitt can just get two or three of those guys that would be huge. And the NJ recruiter can double as the eastern PA recruiter where Pitt can nab a few more kids every year.

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    1. Have you seen anything on territories for recruiting?
      I'm assuming..
      Haering - wpial
      Rudolph - east pa/north NJ
      Huxtable - Florida
      Bostad - Ohio
      Engram - ??
      House - ??
      Hueber - Ohio
      Beckerfield - Hawaii

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  13. Go hire Sirmans of Boston College.
    BC does well recruiting NJ... lots of kids from NJ go to BC for college. Not a lot of colleges to pick from in NJ.
    Anyway, Sirmans grew up in NJ!!!

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  14. I think Coach Chyrst is going to be a suprise in some ares, like coming up with game plants that work and being able to put players to show their talent. I think his weak area are going to be learning that recruiting is a tuff business and nice guys will not finish on top. I think it will take him a couple of years of coaches playing nasty games with him until he gets going, but overall i am starting to think that 3 star recruits that can be put in the right positions can make a big difference. Lets hope he can find a young and up in-coming recruiter that surprises everyone.

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    1. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't believe Chryst could be that naive as to how recruiting wars and back door tactics take place in college football. He coached at a D-1 school and I'm sure didn't do it in a dark closet. We shouldn't mistaken soft spokeness for weakness.

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  15. Boston College has already offered a lot of kids in what should be Pitt's main target area. They are more aggressive than Pitt so far. Ben Sirmans would be interesting, and is a very good recruiter, but he actually recruits Ohio for them. But I'm sure being a native of East Orange would help him in NJ.

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  16. I still think we should hire David Walker back...went to Maryland after coaching Pitt's LeSean McCoy, Dion Lewis and Ray Graham, and then had an opportunity to coach with the Colts until the entire staff was recently let go.

    He can recruit NJ or MD for us! His past results will speak louder than empty Graham-like promises.

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  17. As far as I know, David Walker is still with the Colts. He was retained.

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  18. Darn - well that goes that idea. Thanks.

    I think getting someone who is just a good recruiter and not a good coach might be a bad idea. Hafley was one of them. Our D Backs sucked when he was here at Pitt.

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  19. I would assume its going to be another lower level hire. He only has so much money to work within his coaches pool that he probably has to match whatever Faulker was getting. Which couldnt have been to much if he left already. If there was a top notch RB coach out there he would of hired him the first time.

    Has any numbers come out what the HC and the assistant coach pool is?

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  20. Never saw any of the assistants from Foge Fazio's staff, Mike Gottfried's staff, Paul Hackett's staff, Walt Harris' staff, Dave Wanndstedt's staff and Thee Fraud's staff, set the world on fire with their assistant coaching staff's either. Can we let this guy do his thing and then critique him based on the results?
    It's all about the horses and coaching the fundamentals and basics. If a coach is too lazy to do that, he should quit.

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  21. Can't we just hire the head coach from Don Bosco and get all those NJ studs coming here.

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  22. What about Tyree Foreman, RB coach at Temple?

    Grew up in DC suburbs, and played college ball at UVA. It's hard to recruit top DC/MD/VA kids to Temple, but Tyree has gotten more than his share out of those areas. He's a good coach and recruiter, knows the ACC and DC area landscape.

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  23. Tyree Foreman is somebody I was thinking about, too. That would be an excellent hire. RB coach is not something that is a must. RBs needs the least coaching of anybody, especially at Pitt, since Chryst will be very hands on presumably. But, yeah, Foreman would be a great choice as a recruiter. He at least knows all the coaches there and that's a huge plus.

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  24. "....is all I need to know about Chryst's hiring process."

    Didn't you like all but one of the coaches Chryst has hired as a result of said hiring process?

    Seems strange to doubt it when you've like 90% of it.....

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  25. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/7532249/recruiters-suddenly-ones-being-recruited...
    All you need to know about the coaches Chryst will bring to Pitt. More focus on Coaches... less on Recruiting.

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  26. great espn article pnther15...
    I especially liked the quote below...

    Sarkisian said Wednesday at his news conference to unveil the signees that he prioritized the hiring of excellent recruiters.

    "We want to pound our chest on how much football we know," Sarkisian said, "but if the players can't execute it, then that part is a bit irrelevant. You have to have the players in place to do it.

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    1. btw...
      When Chryst announced the class of 16...
      the comment... "we just offer"... this isn't difficult... we don't have to sell... just provide them the info to make a decision.

      Dumbest comment I ever heard!!!
      Those comments cement what has been rumoured that Chryst is NOT a good recruiter and doesn't like recruiting.

      He should hire a headhunter to give him lists of coaches... the DL coach will be gone in a year!! I like most of the hires... Bostad, Rudolph, Huxtable, Haering, Emgram.
      So 5 of 9 is not bad but not good enough!!!

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  27. Joe D, I saw that same quote from Chryst about signing day, and I rolled my eyes. A noble statement, but a naive one at that. That attitude needs changed in a heartbeat. And to actually admit that, other schools had to be licking their chops.

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  28. Ever since Chryst was hired in december, he only had 1 press conference... and that was to announce the 16 players who signed LOI's.
    He needs to work on his skills in dealing with the media. He can't wing it as he did when announcing the 16 players. He needs to sell the program to fans and alum so they come to games!!

    If he wants to be an x and o coach... he should go to the NFL whereby he doesn't have to worry about recruiting. He just doesn't get it when it comes to recruiting.

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  29. Wow!!! Tough crowd. The class received positive reviews by most everyone. The coaching staff has not been together for two months. They have not “coached” a single game. The only tangible evidence so far is POSITIVE yet you folks choose to languish in a despicable negative funk. ESPN has it “on the cusp” of a top 25 class. They graded it “B-“ which is tied for best in Big East.

    ESPN class report card:
    Pittsburgh Panthers = B-
    Top prospect: RB Rushel Shell (Aliquippa Pa./Hopewell) is the No. 3-ranked running back in the country and could be a program changer if new head coach Paul Chryst looks to pound the rock like he did at Wisconsin.

    Breakdown: The Panthers have overcome a coaching change and some overall program instability to sign a solid class. They did well in-state and may have capitalized on Penn State's situation. Shell is one of the best in the country and is physically ready to come in and shoulder some of the load. Pitt also has three other four-star prospects: quarterback Chad Voytik (Cleveland, Tenn./High), who fills a big a need behind center; dynamic athlete Demitrious Davis (Youngstown, Ohio/Austintown Fitch), who could develop as a needed playmaker on offense; and high-upside tackle Adam Bisnowaty (Pittsburgh, Pa./Fox Chapel). Chryst deserves some credit for holding the 2012 class together.
    - MikeN

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    1. The class was primarily Graham!!! Voytik, Bisnowaty, Shell, the twins...
      Chryst waited toooo long to make a simple phone call.. he just doesn't get it... the recruiting game that is.

      Rushel Shell, in my opinion, will probably be the next Marques Dupree from the 80's. It will depend on whether he starts to put the work in... otherwise, I see him injury prone and slow. He has yet to put any work in the weightroom or track.. Couple that with twins on the way... I don't see how anyone can call this "kid" a program changer.

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    2. You're an idiot. Should Chryst have let every recruit go and then restart from scratch? Does it make sense to have kids coming in who as a coach you didn't recruit or don't want? Has Shell ever missed any significant time due to injury? What are your experiences and qualifications that give you your sense of expertise to comment on these matters? You are a complete idiot.

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    3. All right – I get it – it took some time to sink in. How about I hire you and provide a performance rating BEFORE you actually begin work. I give you a poor rating. Then, I fire you because you received a poor performance rating. Sounds like a logical premise to me. Geez! It might be revolutionary. Why hasn’t anyone thought of it before?
      - MikeN

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    4. MikeN or anonymous...
      Chryst waited well over a week to make any phone calls to recruits. He had 48 hrs from the time of his hiring pressor to make calls to some 18 committs at the time.. He made NONE. That speaks volumes as to what it takes to recruit players... also, it was known and some people didn't want to hire chryst because he doesn't like recruiting... Voytik kept this class together... not Chryst!!!

      Yes, Shell has missed time due to injury... I'm well aware of what he does or does not do.

      Please.... with the name calling!! If you only knew my qualifications...

      I like Chryst as a hire... but, he is blowing it when it comes to recruiting and that is what many people were concerned about and whether he should be hired over Cristobal.

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  30. Would it not make perfect sense for this class to be 'primarily' (in your words) Graham's class.....you know, since Graham was 'primarily' (my words) the coach for all of a month and a half of the time?

    Interesting how that works.....

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  31. Joe D,
    I thought I fired you. Why are you still here?
    - MikeN

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    1. Truth hurts... doesn't it mike... lol
      Just the facts!!!

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  32. It is quite clear... Voytik kept this class together... I suggest you read all the articles regarding such... whether pantherlair, etc.

    Chryst had 48 hours from the time he was named HC to make phone calls to recruits because then there was a 8 day no contact period.
    Chryst didn't lift the phone... it was more important to prepare for the rose bowl.
    Shows me he is clueless as to what it takes to recruit!!

    Voytik tweeted right after the news conference... excited for new pitt coach... waiting for him to call... He had to wait 10 effing days!!!

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  33. I agree that Chryst and his assistants need to step it up on the recruiting front. He had better learn to LOVE recruiting because its a 24/7 job. If he wants X's and O's, he should have gone to the NFL or remained a coordinator in college. If Pitt can't land a top 20 recruiting class next year with all the talent in and around the state, shame on Chryst, and Pitt's boosters need to be held accountable because they picked him. Chryst may turn out to be a good coach and be able to coach players up, but you need certain elite players to win championships. We can't end up losing elites in Pitt's backyard to tOSU and State Penn.

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  34. We applauded when the huckster Todd Graham up and went, he of the numerous catch phrases, soundbites and multiple press conferences.

    We tell ourselves that we abhorred that approach and then we applaud again when a down-to-earth HC gets hired. One who says, right off the bat, actions are what matter not words.

    You guys will jump on anything to pound your chests and point out your self proclaimed negative attributes Chryst has when in reality he's done just fine as a HC so far.

    What really cracks me up is that everyone and their brother are experts in predicting doom and gloom for Chryst and the PITT program before anything of substance has actually happened.

    We have no idea how well or poorly this recruiting class will work out and won't for at least two years.

    We have no idea how poorly the staff coaching hires will be because we have exactly nil to point to of their impact on the PITT football program.

    You'd think you could wait until at least Spring practices before you start jumping the gun on the end of PITT football as we know it.

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  35. At most, most people are urging aggressiveness in recruiting. I find that understandable. And maybe Chryst will do just that. I think the amount of people saying it's doom and gloom are rare, as it should be. Time will tell how well this staff does. But I will always say the hiring of Breckterfield makes little sense. Even if he turns out well. There are much more sensible options and I don't blame anybody for stating the obvious with that decision.

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  36. My theory has always been, that if we are to dream, the flatteries of hope are as cheap, and pleasanter, than the gloom of despair.
    - Thomas Jefferson

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  37. Ok so now joe d is predicting that shell will have no career because of injuries. I guess he knows everything. And if you missed it shell is on record saying that all off season he will work with two trainers to get in shape.

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    1. Well,
      Shell can talk all he wants about training and tweet it also... the fact of the matter is.. he hasn't lifted one weight... not run at all.
      Trust me... I know.
      I hope he gets into the weight room... or does some sort of conditioning... i hope he goes out for track intead of baseball... or maybe no spring sport and focus on conditioning.. but I doubt it.
      It is well known Shell doesn't do any type of conditioning... no lifting... no running... nothing. I hope he turns it around.

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    2. pk,
      if you saw the documentary on marques dupree... and if you watched Shell play...
      they look the same... play the same... similar stature, etc
      and they have the same attitude regarding putting the work into conditioning...
      that is why I think he will be the next marques dupree...

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  38. Joe d, im just wondering what your qualifications are exactly?

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    1. Maybe chief cook and bottle washer?

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  39. I don't know if the Chryst regime will sink or swim. However, I do believe -- if they fail -- it will be because of recruiting: a lack of success and/or effort and/or understanding its importance.

    Unless Pitt finishes 13-0 this year, Chryst is at least naive -- and perhaps foolish -- if he thinks all you need to do is issue invitations, open the doors, and stand back to avoid the stampede. The sooner he learns that, the better. There are probably only 5-6 schools that can do that, and even for them only kids in their region (for the national recruits, those schools beat the bushes as hard as anyone): Texas, Nebraska, USC, Alabama, Ohio State, LSU come to mind. Pitt's certainly not there yet.

    It was disconcerting that Chryst ran off some guys due to lack of size or speed. It was a good-guy move as long as he brings in the bigger / faster guys he wants. But for at least one position (at center), he didn't. We ended up with nobody. Hopefully that was an anomoly.

    The failure to pick up the phone starting from Day One was inexcusable.

    This next recruiting year will tell us a lot. We already know this much: Todd Graham won't be around to assemble the class for Chryst to simply keep together, and Chad Voytik will be busy doing other tasks -- like (please God) beating out Tino Sunseri.

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  40. Looks like this is one of the fallouts of Paul Zeise getting injured and having his blog on hiatus, and then "speakyourmind" getting banned from the Scout board...Joe D has now infiltrated this blog with his inane comments.

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  41. Chris,

    You need to put something out on the possible move of Pitt to the ACC in 2012. What are your thoughts on the likeliness of this if WVU does bolt to the Big 12/10 in 2012? Apparently Steve Pederson is openly speaking about doing this. If he is speaking in such an open manner, I would guess the Chancellor is also supporting such a move. If we do go, we would still have one game to fill as the Virginia Tech game would now be an ACC game.

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  42. I've always said that I thought Pitt would play in the ACC next year, but I honestly have no scoop that tells me one way or the other. It's just an educated guess.

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  43. Imma - just how do we know that Cook was 'run off'? It is entirely feasible that he committed to PITT for the sole reason to play for Todd Graham and then changed his mind after the coaching switch. The fact that he ended up going to school right down the road from where he lives is a supporting fact also. There is a big difference between 77 miles and 289 miles.

    This reconsidering by recruits happens every single time there is an abrupt coaching change in college football yet somehow PITT fans think Chryst is unique in having it happen to him.

    Dakota Conwell did this exact same thing and no one says he was "run off".

    I don't know if you have kids or not but a 17-18 year old changes their minds at the drop of a hat.

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  44. Pitt should look at some smaller areas around the state a little.
    Everyone gets caught up in these recruiting services. A place like Erie
    has produced tons of talent back to Fred Bilitnikoff and Mike McCoy,
    To guys like Stepnoski, Bob Sanders, Brian Milne, Marlin Jackson,
    Jovan Johnson, Brian Stablien and Charles Rush, now Garmon,
    to name a few.
    For instance, Pitt wasn't high on Drew Astorino and he's started at safety for
    3 years at Penn State and has been 2nd team All Big 10.
    Just saying, a lot of good kids around that don't live
    around Pittsburgh or Philly.

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