Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Pitt football's 2012 schedule announced

Sept. 1  Youngstown State
Sept.  6  at Cincinnati  (Thursday- ESPN)
Sept.  15  Virginia Tech
Sept.  22  Gardner-Webb
Oct.   5    at Syracuse  (Friday- ESPN)
Oct. 13   Louisville
Oct.  20  at Buffalo
Oct.  27  Temple
Nov. 3   at Notre Dame  (NBC)
Nov. 9   at UConn  (Friday- ESPN2)
Nov. 24  Rutgers
Dec. 1   at South Florida (ABC, ESPN, or ESPN2)

I predict the Panthers will beat Youngstown State, Gardner-Webb, Buffalo, and Temple, and lose to Cincinnati, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame, and South Florida.  That's 4-4 with the remaining games being at Syracuse, Louisville, at UConn, and Rutgers.  Best case scenario, they win all four of those and go 5-2 in the conference and 8-4 overall.

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  1. Best case scenario.... 8-4...

    In my opinion, that is the minimum expectation for the program... year in and year out. I don't want to hear about excuses.

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    1. 8 wins minimum, just because of the weakness of the schedule. Ill say pitt goes 10-2, yes ambitious, but with losses to va tech and louisville. Pitt always play nd tough and they lose some key guys on offense, rutgers might suffer because of the coaches plus they lose their only offensive threat in sanu, cincy loses their best defensive players and they lose zach collaros, usf might be tough but pitt gets the edge.

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    2. Joe D.,

      I agree with you 100% regarding the 8-4 minimum for expectations. Moving to the ACC will make that a little more difficult, but Pitt should still be able to raise the bar some.

      RKR

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    3. Looks to me more like 6-6 this year.....maybe 7-5 tops.

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    4. Is that the expectation you set for Chryst and crew?
      6-6 or 7-5???
      Really...
      And what type of recruits do you think he will land with that record???
      If he goes 6-6 or 7-5, he will be fired after 3 years... because next year and the year after he won't have the recuits and can't compete in the ACC.

      This is a powderpuff schedule... 8-4 minimum... just to get the recruits to be competitive in the ACC.

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  2. I'm predicting 6-6, 8-4 best case scenario. There is no way they win 10 games and if they do Pitt should erect a statue of Chryst immediately. Too much turnover and weaknesses at key positions. Having said that, I think Chryst will get Pitt to 10 wins eventually - just not this year or next.

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    1. That is the problem with Pitt football.
      The bar is set soooooo low.
      6-6 will not put fans in the seat nor will it get recruits to sign on... if they go 6-6, expect another 2-3 years of 6-6.
      2013 is a critical recruiting year... why.
      2011 was bunch of smurfs...
      2012 was ok but not enough for program.

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  3. Since when is USF any good after September? PITT should beat USF.

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  4. There is a possibility we could beat Cincinnati, which is young, early in the season as well as South Florida late in the season. Do not see us beating Louisville. Totally agree with Virginia Tech loss. Cannot let myself ever concede a loss to ND but agree the difference in talent level will probably be the difference. Would be OK with a 8-4 result for the first year with an outside chance of 9-3. Youngstown State will be interesting to see if we have another Maine/Wofford experience. If we handle Youngstown State easily, that should give the team some confidence for the rest of the year.

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  5. That record is tentative of course. For me, the main factor will be qb play.

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  6. I think Pitt beats USF. We play them at the end of the season, and USF for the life of them can't win any games from November on.

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  7. Life is about understanding expectations. Paul Chryst needs to tell his troops that the expectation is to win the BE. Anything less will be a disappointment for the Pitt fans, the University (not one in the same with fans), but more importantly a disappointment to each individual player on the roster.

    If each player doesn't understand the expectation from the Coach, that is on the coach. If the player is not good enough to achieve the expectation, it is time for a new player. As an example,our quarterback continued to not achieve the expectation in so many areas. Noone cannot tell me that he was not coached on dumping the ball once he was out of the pocket instead of taking a six yard "sack" by running out of bounds. He is too old for those mistakes. Those are ones you make as an 18 year old and learn from.

    Steve Peterson has not met expectations for many reasons. He failed miserably in the job search, except unfortunately, for the one that brought him here dagnabbit. He takes credit when it is not his to take and candidly, he is just not adept at his job. He is the weakest link, goodbye.

    I can see Pitt finishing 6-7 or 9-4. I will err on the side of Coach Chryst and go with the 9-4 mark. For the addition challenged, I give them an L in the bowl game.

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  8. Pitt goes 10-2 with this weak schedule losing to Va Tech and ND .We go undefeated in the Big East , thanks to Louisville being at home.

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    1. I had the same exact prediction! :)

      Also the Louisville game is an extra day of preparation since the previous game is a Friday game

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  9. With a tougher schedule at a boatload of injuries, Pitt went 6-6 last year.

    WVU is replaced by a MAC team (Temple), and an BCS school is replaced by an FCS school.
    Pitt goes 8-4 with that schedule last year.

    So, unless the Big East improves a ton from last year, or the decision is made to start Chad Voytik from Day 1, anything less than 8-4 is unacceptable.

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  10. Santino's DelightMarch 27, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    I don't know why we think we're so damn good. 9-4? C'mon. We should have been 9-4 two seasons ago. Oh wait, we were. Then they fired the coach.

    As far as expectations, well Fraud Graham set the expectation to win the Big East and we all know how that worked out.

    I'll take 8-4 and a bowl victory this year but 7-5 is probably more likely unless Tino gets hit by a bolt of lightening two games in and starts playing lights out for the rest of the season.

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  11. Pitt went 7-5 that year. Get your facts straight.
    The bowl win was against a 6-6 Kentucky team.
    That team should have gone 9-3, much like how every team that coach had should have won at least 2 more games in every year he was there.

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  12. Given the quarterback situation, it is possible but I wouldn't count on doing better than last year. They should be able to beat Youngstown State, Gardner-Webb, Buffalo, Syracuse and UConn. That's five. Winning one of the others will get them to six and bowl eligible. If Chryst can pull a rabbit or two out of his hat maybe he can get to seven or eight.

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  13. we own vagina tech. count that as a win.

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    1. Pitt record vs VTech is 4-7. I wouldnt say we own them.

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    2. Don't forget: with Anti-Tebow Sunseri under center, we nearly lost to Maine. At home.

      With Anti-Tebow Sunseri under center, we don't own anybody. And no lead is safe.

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  14. Pitt won 6 games last year with terrible qb play, a tougher schedule, injuries out the wazzoo, and players who didnt fit the system and youre telling me theyll only win 6 or at most 7 with a better coaching staff who will allow their players to succeed, healthy players, and a system that fits the current roster including quarterbacks? 8 wins minimum

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  15. I won't touch a solid prediction at this point with a ten foot pole. I watched yesterday's practice and, while there were some real nice individual plays, the bulk of the QB play was very inconsistent at best. Our season hinges on that QB play.

    While it is early, I believe Sunseri will have the starting job wrapped up again during summer training camp, possibly even coming out of spring ball. The question of if he can progress is the biggest issue facing this team and this season.

    I can see anything from 6-7 to 9-4 this year...

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    1. If I remember correctly, when Marino came in 1979, he split time with Rick Trocano every game... Trocano was the starter though.

      So, don't rule Voytik out as eventually taking over starting QB in his frosh year... he is a hard working kid with lots of heart and desire.

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    2. I believe that's correct, although I do remember Trocano having a knee injury later in the year and Marino playing full time after that. Trocano moved to safety for the following year if I remember correctly.

      Big difference between that team and what we'll have this year is the '79 team was absolutely loaded and could've crushed most teams they played with a golden retriever playing QB.

      Mike W.

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    3. Chad Voytik is no Dan Marino. I think PITT fans are pinning way to many hopes on this young man to waltz in and contribute right away. There are so many factors against that happening.

      Someone with a better memory than mine tell me who the last pre-Bostick QB played for PITT as a true freshman. Chryst has said that he won't automatically redshirt any player and that each player will get summer training camp to show the staff what they can do. That's good all around.

      But missing Spring ball and coming into a situation where you have two multi-year QBs in front of you is a tough thing. Regardless of what PITT fans feel about Tino Sunseri it would be very unique to sit down a two year starter for a true freshman.

      We'll see and there are always surprises in college football which is why I like it more than the NFL, but I'm not betting on this happening. I think Voytik gets a redshirt.

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    4. Voytik is no Marino...
      but I like his work ethic and drive...
      doubtful of redshirt... if you been reading about qb play, neither meyer or sunseri are lighting it up... and anybody can handoff to Ray Graham.

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    5. I don't think we'll see Voytik this year, but I would take into consideration that he basically is starting on the same plain as Sunseri and Meyers. Chryst has been around long enough to know a couple of things; first, major CFB is about winning, not developing players. He only has Voytik for four years at most, and if he's the best option for Pitt to win consistently, he'll get that shot. Second, if he wants to make recruiting in the local area a bit easier for himself and his staff, and given the horrid nature of the BE this year, he needs to win the conference this year before going to the ACC. Pitt will have a good running game, but they have to have a QB that can keep defenses honest by completing enough passes short to mid range and have a threat of going downfield if he wants the running game to be productive. The OL will be OK this year, not great and not horrible but it's not going to be on par with what Chryst had at Wisconsin.

      I won't be surprised if I see Voytik play this year, odds are right now it's either Sunseri or Meyers.

      Mike W.

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  16. Good point OriginalEther. That's what I meant to say. 7-5 this year too.

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  17. Could be. However, it's easier for me to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny than to believe that Pitt can go 8-4 with Tino Sunseri at QB.

    And even if he can, why invest one more nanosecond trying to force-fit that square peg into the round hole of a successful QB? If we do, then NEXT year (2013) -- first year in the ACC? -- we'll be forced to groom the next guy. Except playing Clemson and Florida State instead of Gardner-Webb and Temple. Why not groom the heir apparent in this lame-duck year with its lost-cause schedule?

    Besides, and I say this with full forethought: I honestly think I'd rather lose this year with Myers or Voytik than play Sunseri (even if he goes just above/ below .500), because the games are absolute misery to watch with Sunseri. No lead is safe; you just know dude will figure out some new way, no matter how improbably, to lay an egg in the 4th quarter. Until (sometimes) he doesn't, and you've spent the entire game bracing for a choke.

    Dude's the anti-Tebow: he's okay in Q1-3, and wilts in Q4 like an igloo in August. And I'm tired of it.

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    1. Yeah I agree, I'd rather go 3-9 with my Myers or Voytik rather than 7-5 with Sunseri (sarcasm). I can't believe what I read on here sometimes!

      I mean I would seriously rather see one of the other guys WIN the job, but if Chryst thinks Tino is the best option then so be it.

      Again, I hope someone beats out Tino, but he went 7-5 two yrs ago and 6-6 last yr (in an offense that was a horrible fit)aginst much more difficult schedules. I don't think 8-4 would be so far out of the realm of possibility with this cupcake schedule.

      Oh, and in case you don't like me going by anonymous, just call me "Imma Man! Im 41."

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    2. Wow 40 - I said at this time last year that Graham may sacrifice winning some games to make sure his offensive system was in place and the players ready for the 2012 season (thus we never saw Myers) and the howls of protest could be heard 240 miles away.

      But that was with a unique and (way too) complex offense under Graham, a coach who was obsessed with doing it that way.

      I truly don't think that the PITT administration nor Coach Chryst have any intention of doing anything close to that or to do anything but try to win as many games as possible this season.

      Given what PITT has gone through over the past two season, with all the coaching changes, accompanying drama and negative media reports, PITT needs to right the ship and show stability as soon as possible. That means concentrating on getting the best results this season and forget about what may happen next year or two years down the road.

      I think PITT fans may be too close to the situation to see the forest from the trees when it comes to PITT football sometimes. Die hard fans do this with their teams all the time, but the PITT football program has become an afterthought nationally and even locally over the past 24 months and one more mediocre or losing season would set the back on it's heels entering into the ACC.

      We need a decent season now to make our entry into the ACC newsworthy and exciting, we don't need to limp in on a losing record just because good thing MAY happen down the line.

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  18. Chris will the YSU and the gardner webb both count towards bowl elgibility?

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  19. Only one of the YSU and Gardner-Webb games will count toward bowl eligibility.

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  20. Is it true that Steven Adams may not qualify?

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  21. Okay, so let's say that true miracles happen: the Mon River parts, endless loaves & fishes for the masses, and Anti-Tebow Sunseri raises from the dead (well, okay, raises from the incompetent...) to go 7-5.

    What does that get us? Another trip to Birmingham in 2012 (yippee...), but a TOTALLY green QB entering the MUCH tougher ACC in 2013. A case can be made that 4-8 or 5-7 would be a very possible record in the ACC in 2013 under those circumstances.

    How do like Pitt's chances to recruit -- especially using Chryst's laid-back approach -- coming off 4-8?

    Hey, if Anti-Tebow played well, or even barely okay? I'd say sure, give him a inside track as a senior. But he doesn't. Dude's terrible more often than he's okay -- and that was also true under Wanny's pro set in 2010 as well. Take away his two good games against Rutgers & 'Cuse, in which he padded his stats that everyone likes to quote, and his numbers for the remaining 10 games are pretty poor.

    Plus doesn't anyone else remember the UConn abortion in 2010? The Backyard Brawl -- at home -- in 2010?

    I reiterate: by playing Voytik or Myers this year, maybe we go 6-6 (because the schedule is sooo much easier) instead of 7-5, and we still go to Birmingham.

    But then at least we'd have an experienced QB entering the ACC, which will be a huge advantage over thowing that kid into the fire against the likes of Clemson and Florida State.

    In summary, I predict that our 2-year wins total playing [Anybody But Tino] this year plus next year would be higher than playing Tino this year and the heir-apparent in 2013.

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    1. If Pitt can't go 8-4 with this cupcake schedule in 2012..
      woe is pitt going into ACC for 2013... it will be 6-6 forever... and Chryst will be fired after 2 years in the ACC (3 year total tenure)
      I said "IF"..

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  22. With the home schedule we have it is necessary to go 5-1. If we don't do that we are going to need some help at these games. I suggest this www.freedomflask.com

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  23. "I predict the Panthers will beat Youngstown State, Gardner-Webb, Buffalo, and Temple, and lose to Cincinnati, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame, and South Florida. That's 4-4 with the remaining games being at Syracuse, Louisville, at UConn, and Rutgers. Best case scenario, they win all four of those and go 5-2 in the conference and 8-4 overall."

    And that would be consecutive season #31 with at least 3 losses.

    Talk about mediocre!

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  24. Guys - I lived the glory days - little story about how awesome we once were.

    Had tickets to the old Pitt Stadium - I think it was 1980 or '81 - playing Louisville - I asked my then bro in law if he wanted to bet the game - he said, how many points will you give me if I take Louisville - I said "40".

    He goes, "40!?! - F yeah"....49-0 halftime - beat them 63-14 - could have scored 100.

    Also beat Temple 76-0.

    Unfortunately, thanks to Ed Bozik and a myriad of other problems after Jackie left, those days are - OVER. We will NEVER be a dominant team again.

    Soon playing FSU and Miami? - no chance - and those who disagree - Paul Chryst....really?

    HE'S going to take the program to the "next level"??? No effen way possible - if you think differently, you're just wrong.

    I LOVE Pitt - bleed Pitt - Mrs. Zatiti LOVES Pitt - we go to selective games...(live in NC) and it saddens me to write this.

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    1. I was at that game also...
      I think.. lol... can't remember if that was the game we snuck a 1/4 keg into the stadium...

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    2. how do you know this? can you tell the future? do you have a magic crystal ball? im not saying that chryst will make pitt a dominant team, but who would that pitt can afford? chryst was as good of an option as any so until he does or does not get pitt to a high level you cant say what you just said.

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  25. Junior Day Saturday...
    It will be interesting to see who shows...
    and note who doesn't show.

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  26. To be honest, the junior day lineup doesn't look that impressive. One player that I like who will be there is Ty Haddock of Montour. I don't care that he's 6'0" tall, at best, that kid has dancer's feet for a 300 pounder. Aaron Donald was under recruited, too, even though I think I had him as one of the top half dozen prospects in the state when he came out. Haddock can be a very good player in college and I hope Pitt offers him.

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    1. Junior Day will be a way to see the progress of Chryst recruiting... to see if his methods work or not..
      If its not an impressive showing... if it is a wpial all-star cast....
      woe is Pitt in the near future.

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    2. 6' 300 with a sub 5 second forty time is impressive. Hes a tank. Hes visited pitt 3 times in the past 2 weeks so if pitt offers, he could land him. Him and tyrique jarrett would give pitt a 6' 300 lb DT and a 6'3" 320 lb DT. Thats some serious size.

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    3. PK... don't know where you got that info...
      don't trust what is posted on rivals.
      Last year as a soph, Haddock went to National Underclassment Combine..
      Wt - 291#
      40 - 5.13
      Shuttle - 4.75
      Bench - 20 reps at 185#..
      Ok numbers... no offers except Kent State..
      His profile says his max bench is 300#... for someone who weighs 300#, that is low!!! Should be 400#.
      I hope they don't offer... don't want ships chewed up with low level players.

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    4. joe, 300+ bench is damn good. i understand the "you should bench 1.5 your weight" argument but at some point that doesnt apply. at 300 lbs you cant expect a high school kid to be benching 450 no matter what kind of an athlete he is. and you dont know that hes a low-level player.

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    5. Bench press numbers are an inexact science and are NOT a demonstration of true strength.

      There are a number of reasons that someone who is ridiculously strong would have a "low" bench press number, and its really telling as far as ignorance goes when people think that bench is the end all be all of strength.

      Taller guys traditionally have much lower benches than shorter guys. This is due to arm length, the proportion of upper torso muscle, etc.

      Also we have to remember these are KIDS. They are NOT fully developed yet. They SHOULDN'T be trying to lift heavy, and its very very dangerous to their development if they do. Wait till they are 20 or 21 to really start lifting heavy.

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    6. Furthermore strength is relative when two men are engaging in what amounts to a type of combat.

      Technique, skill, and conditioning are more important than raw strength.

      I AM a proponent of strength for the linemen, but you have to understand where that combative strength comes from. Proper use of leverage, the ability to attack a point of weakness, use of proper footwork are all more important that strength.

      Raw strength CAN hide deficiencies in other areas, however all it's doing is masking a weakness, which will eventually be exploited.

      Is it good to be stronger than the other guys? Absolutely. Is it paramount? No. I'd say the SINGLE most important thing is actually conditioning, rather than strength, as the ability to go longer at your maximum will help you prevail way more than a few good plays at the beginning.

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  27. I loved Haddock. Saw him play in WPIAL championship, and I'm no football scout, I played d2 Hoops, but that dude was great. I really like him. Agreed, Chris.

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  28. Hard for me to predict a record, but believe the following:

    Chryst will not over or undersell the team's prospects com August. He will call it as he sees it.

    He will not call a pooch punt in the first game this year. Further he will come out with a game plan that for the first time in many years will make sense to most fans, even if the execution of soem plays might fall short.

    He will not get rattled early or easily.

    In clutch moments he will more often than not make good play calls because that is one thing he does really well.

    He will be honest with his players, while at the same time getting the most out of them.

    The players will respect him and want to play hard for him.


    This is a guy who wins games he's supposed to and will pull a few out of a hat as well.....with the help of disciplined, motivated players.

    6-7-8-9-10 wins.... who knows? But by the end of the season, there will be reason for optimism heading into the ACC. Not that we will tear it up, but that we will play good ball consistently.

    Having said that, I concur with Joe D's view that 8 wins on average as a minimum is what we should expect.

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  29. Chris - I hear some kids from outside of the WPIAL will be in town for Junior Day at Pitt. If that is true, then please let us know whom is going to be here and their interest level in Pitt.

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    1. It's always a fluid situation so you never know but right now the Indiana OL Dan Samuelson is supposed to be there, as are two Ohio players, LB Darrien Howard and TE Greg Hart. Pitt has a shot at all three.

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    2. chris - I saw the Zeff kid that has been mentioned in the past. I guess if he is here, then the Panthers must be interested. Also, dude has a healthy appetite.

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  30. Joe D, you worry WAY too much about a kid's workout numbers in high school. There are very few high school kids that are workout warriors. It's only when they get to college that they start to vastly improve their strength, speed, agility, etc.

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    1. If they don't work out in HS... they are not going to in college...
      past behavior is a predictor of future behavior..
      define "vastly improve"...
      Most do not "vastly improve" in speed or agility.. going from a 4.6 to 4.5 is not "vast improvement" in my book. If an RB type is doing 5.0 in HS, he is not BCS D1 quality...
      Strength wise, Holtz is 230# and according to his profile max bench is 290#... that is a very good ratio.

      You don't have to be a "workout warrior" to have decent numbers... 3 times a week for strength... 3 times a week for speedwork (SAQ) and run. Combines separate the men from the boys... they separate the BCS D1 recruits from the D2, etc

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    2. Joe D, that's crap. If college kids could get by on their natural conditioning they would too and you have to look no further than some college basketball stars to see this. Derrick Rose has said that he lived off of gummie bears until he got into the pro's and had his first wake up call. If Pitt has good coaches, they'll coach him in the gym as well. RELAX and please stop with with pity party...your act was old two months ago but I guess past behavior IS a predictor of future behavior.

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    3. Joe D.,

      You have to put this in context, these are 17 and 18 year old KIDS we're talking about. Most of them have been the best players on the team for their whole lives. They have not needed to push themselves yet.

      Think about the maturing process that take place for the typical 18 year old as they leave high school and go away to college..

      Do they mature physically? A 22 yr-old man is much bigger than an 18 yr-old.

      Do they mature emotionally? We expect them to...

      Do they mature socially? Only if they want to move on to the "adult" phase of their life...

      Using your "past predicts future" analogy falls apart on almost every other 18 yr-old kids that enters Pitt. Do you think they are unchanged when they leave as 22 yr-olds? Why do you hold the FB players to a different standard?

      RKR

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    4. Personally I DON'T want kids to work out too much in highschool. Lifting weights when you aren't fully developed can RUIN growth plates and stunt growth. Too many HS trainers and coaches don't know how to properly teach kids to lift in a safe way.

      Some do but not enough. I'd rather they wait to start REALLY weight training until they are around 20.

      There are much better ways for hs kids to get stronger, and all of it has to do with bodyweight exercises, which they get MORE than enough of in their normal practices.

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  31. Chris,

    Is there any way that you could write a piece that chronicles our glorious 2012 cbi championship run?

    Thank you,
    Z

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  32. No thanks. I don't want any part of that ridiculousness.

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  33. Chris, i heard that robert foster was about to commit to osu a few weeks ago but was advised to wait by his "advisors". Any truth to that?

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    1. Thanks. Is foster going to pitts junior day today? Itd be dumb if he isnt

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  34. A kid in my daughter's HS class here in Richmond just got a verbal offer from Pitt:

    http://erictetlow.com/

    Although not rated yet, he's a good student, apparently good character...Pitt is not his first choice, but got to him first and that made an impression.

    So, the Pitt staff appears to be wasting no time in going after VTech's and UVa's recruiting territory.

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    1. ...Joe D., not pleased...

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    2. This kid looks like a monster based on those highlights. Richmond isn't the greatest HS FB area but it's not bad either. He's already got the size and I liked how he never stopped driving forward on his run blocks.

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    3. Godwin High School is the equivalent of Peters Township, but they do play teams such as Varina, Highland Springs, Hermitage and Matoaca that have quite a few D-1 recruits going to "big" FB schools. One of GOdwin's rivals is Collegiate, where Russell Wilson was QB before heading to NC State. Point being, the level of competition isn't bad by any stretch. Lets hope the kid is a diamond in the rough and picks the panthers.

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  35. Any word on the events of junior day?

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  36. not sure if jamie has to say he is sorry for being in a tournament that I too never heard off before this yr. I am not crazy of Jamie not playing some of the younger guys in games earlier in the season and I think we need to pick up recruiting a little bit, but Jamie deserves the benefit of the doubt this season and does not have to explain to me why he wanted to continue to play this yr. I do think we need some big man next year, after next season we could be left with Zanna and Gilbert, not good.

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  37. Anyone have any updates on any of the basketball recruits?

    Any truth that Jamie stopped recruiting Trency Jackson?

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  38. Trency Jackson says Pitt is on him really hard, along with Purdue and Cincinnati at this point. Jackson will... http://fb.me/1vEzrnJkG

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  39. If Sunseri is the QB 6-6, he is the weakest link!

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  40. Whats is status of 2012 PF Sanchez from Bronx JC??
    Don't know anything about him...

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    1. I looked him up... he played on the Dominican national team... coached by Calipari... went to JC from the DR. Under the radar out of HS and out of JC.

      Sanchez has an offer from Pitt according to rivals.

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  41. Jamie Dixon was scouting him the other Day. I'm sure they would love to have him.

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    1. Id much rather get orlando than jackson or keane. From what ive read, sanchez is in the mold of a khem birch. Lanky, athletic shot blocker and a good rebounder

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  42. On the recruiting front... below are stats on number of offers made so far....
    Pitt - 60
    PSU - 60
    OSU - 100

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  44. Joe D - even you have to know that Meyer does this every year. He shotguns the offers then when kids verbal they are fine until he gets another guy that is better who verbals also. Meyers then cuts the first one loose.

    I don't know if PSU does the same thing but PITT doesn't. Pitt offers kids who they actually want on the roster so they don't say yes to kids they will replace before LOI day - in essence breaking a verbal promise. Those offers and verbals go both ways you know.

    I know that the "Big Schools" do this all the time but they have recruits banging down the door in most cases. PITT isn't that type of program and we can't, and won't, go around burning bridges when it isn't absolutely (discipline, academics, etc...) necessary.

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  45. Doke -- I see that the Zeff kid from Montclair got an offer from Rutgers! Dude must have skills. Also, why do so many people write about this kid?

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    1. They don't!!!
      He does a great job marketing himself... did you see his website... btw.. smoke and mirrors...
      if he were a soccer player from montclair... i say go after him... a football player... lol

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    2. hes viewed as an easy pitt commit and has good size at 6'5" 280. the problem is pitt thinks the can get better prospects, which they can

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    3. Yeah nothing like a full ride from a team that is better than Pitt as a way to market yourself.

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    4. You guys are funny. Regardless of who Pitt recruits, lets hope that the coach is good on Saturdays, or Thursday nights or any other stupid day that Smiley schedules. If Zeff really is interested in Pitt and is semi-decent then they should offer if for no other reason but to rebuild their presence in that area. If he is a stiff, then let him take Joe D and go somewhere else.

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    5. Really...
      that is the standard...
      if he is interested in Pitt give him an offer...
      you will never get better than 6-6 with that attitude toward recruiting.
      wrigs.. his other offer is Mass and some other subdivision team... so much for all the hype... Rutgers giving him an offer is like Pitt giving a wpial player an offer.

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    6. If a kid that gets invited to a top prospect combine is interested in Pitt and just happens to be from a fertile recruiting area then at this point I make an offer. The revolving door atmosphere at Pitt makes one wonder why any legit kid would even consider the Panthers at this time. Also, as of now his other offers include UConn and Rutgers, which one could argue are better than Pitt right now.

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    7. wrigs...
      if you see the list of offers by state...
      Pitt is making a major push in Florida... clearly one of the best football states in the US!!!
      NJ is "NOT" fertile recruiting area... sure there are some HS with good progams, but overall, it is way below wpial.

      If you want to build a winning team... one that does better than 8-4... you need better prospects than Zeff. Zeff was listed at 250# not long ago... now it says 277#...

      Just because you are invited to a combine... lol that is the standard for giving offers??? Please..

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    8. joe, i agree with you here. there are a lot of prospects better than zeff who have interest in pitt. if dorian johnson-caliber is option A, zeff-caliber is option c or d.

      also, i like that the staff is hitting florida. pitts not going to get any elite players out of the south right now so if they can go and get some solid prospects thats a plus. it seems like theyve offered some florida linebackers but id like them to keep hitting florida hard

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  46. Guys - I have yet to see the 'better prospects' that you are referencing. This kid was at the Top 300 Combine in AZ a few weeks back. Also, what about the Website? What's the link.

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    1. So... it was not the TOP 300 HS juniors in the US at the Semper Fi combine... and there were only 300 at the combine so I guess he was TOP 300 at the combine... and I also believe you had to pay to get there... several from Montour were at the Semper Fi combine..
      At the Semper Fi combine, Zeff was listed as a QB.

      The premier combine was the Underarmour in TX... in conjunction with the USArmy all-american bowl.

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  47. More recruiting stats by state...
    Now rivals showing 61 offers..
    OH - 18
    PA - 15
    FL - 8
    NJ - 6
    47 of the 61 from 4 states.... that is pretty diverse recruiting in my opinion... which is a good thing.

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  48. I agree with Joe D for a change on this one. Just because a kid wants to go to Pitt doesnt mean they should offer. Pitt should be selective.

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  49. I agree with Wrigs. The kid is getting recruited/offers from schools that are similar, if not better than Pitt. That compares alot more favorably than the Roberts kid that signed this year and was not recruited by anyone. NJ always produces some good players and that pipeline has broken, so maybe this is a way to fix it. Anyway, Zeff might want to stay closer to home and go to RU or UConn.

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    1. So you want pitt to offer him because UCONN and RUTGERS have offered? Thats absurd. Different coaches want different thinngs from a player at certain positions. If chrysts staff feels that they have a shot at better prospects, which they do, then why would they settle? You dont offer just to offer. Go after your primary prospects and if all else fails go after the second and third options.

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  50. All I can say about Pitt recruiting linemen in NJ is that Dorian Miller is one of the best linemen in the east and it took Pitt two months before just recently calling him and telling him that he still has an offer that the previous regime gave him many months ago. Why they took so long, I have no idea, but what I'm saying is that with this staff it's hard to predict how much they like a prospect because they sometimes do things very slowly.

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    1. Dorian Miller of NJ is only 6'2"...
      that is short by Chryst standards for an OL...
      the kid from Ohio that switch to akron i believe was 6'2"... so, Chryst may not care if he comes to pitt.

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    2. It would be ridiculous to turn down a possible future star center because he's 6'2" instead of 6'5". Miller would probably start as a true freshman at center next season.

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    3. it is curious that they waited so long. do you know how much interest he would even still have? i believe hes getting interest from sec schools so it might be too little too late for miller

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  51. agree with pk...
    this is a wait and see of your primary picks... Zeff is way down..
    Zeff doesn't meet what Chryst looks for in an OL... Zeff was only 250# a few months ago and who knows what he ways today... Chryst likes those big bruiser OL guys...

    Frankly, with all this talk about Zeff on this blog and they way Zeff markets himself, it wouldn't surprise me if these posts were from Zeff relatives... track that ip address.. lol ip address will tell you city and state!!

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  52. chris, many people say it and ive gone along that pitt needs to recruit florida, mainly because of the speed. is there really a difference in speed and quickness between a florida kid and a pa kid? isnt a 4.4 forty in pa the same as a 4.4 forty in fla? im just curious if its really that prevalent

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    1. Fast is fast, it's just that there are a lot more fast kids in Florida. You can find a WR at the bottom of the top 100 prospects in Florida that's every bit as fast as most WRs who are top 10 prospects in PA. Take Tyler Boyd for example. There's dozens of kids in Florida who have his speed. The key is finding an under the radar kid who the big southern schools overlook.

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    2. i see. i knew florida was probably the most fertile recruiting state i just wasnt quite sure about everyones obsession with it. i know pitts got some good prospects from florida so i hope they can continue that. dave huxtable has some florida ties from when he was at ucf so maybe hell be able to get a few under the radar prospects per year from the area.

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    3. Florida has a ton of speed...
      PA does not have as many speedy players as Florida... and even when you factor population difference.
      WVU is recruiting Florida heavily!!! why, speed. speed that can't be found elsewhere... at all positions.

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