Friday, August 24, 2012

Corey Clement is not solid

New Jersey RB Corey Clement told ESPN that he still wants to visit Nebraska for sure, and maybe Notre Dame and Wisconsin.  Losing him would obviously cost Paul Chryst one of is more coveted prospects.  A long way to go, but usually when a kid starts looking around again, he ends up changing his mind.  Not always, but more than 50% of the time it seems to me.

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  1. The day he committed he said he was going to take all his offical visits. No surprise here.

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  2. It's more than that. He said he was naive the first time around and wants do more research this time.

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    1. When he goes to South Bend and Lincoln, we're toast.

      No way he goes to Pitt now.

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    2. Yeah, because those two places are so much fun and where any young kid from Jersey would want to spend their 4 years in college. Talk about boring.

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    3. So, you really think he stays committed to Pitt?

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    4. crimhead..
      you are sort of right there...
      but Clement is from Glassboro... that is considered the "country" in NJ... even though its not far from Philly or Atlantic City... lol and Cowtown Rodeo is not far away!!
      Glassboro is a college town with Rowan University.. D3
      A good comparison is the towns of IUP, Slippery Rock, Clarion...

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    5. It's 30 minutes outside of Philly and 45 minutes East of Wilmington. It may be rural, but not far from the big city. IUP, Slippery Rock, and Clarion are all considerably farther than that.

      And Moody, I have no idea whether or not he stays committed to Pitt, all I was saying is that South Bend and Lincoln are hardly epicenters of fun and culture.

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  3. Question...
    It seems to me, this year athletes are commmitting much earlier than ever before.. I've never seen this many committs by say August 1.

    So, is it more of an "athlete" strategy these days to "committ" but really keep looking so to keep other athletes away and/or it will cause the college to pull offers because they met their needs for a certain position?

    Zaire Williams committed to WVU... I would pursue him if I were Chryst as he was very interested in Pitt. I believe Zaire committed to WVU because Clement committed to Pitt. Both are from NJ and probably live within 30 min of each other.
    WVU has 5 RB's on their committ list.

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  4. Who has a better 40 time, Clement or Williams, because that's who i would take!

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    1. Don't know the times... I think Williams is faster.
      Clement PR in 100m is 11.76 as a junior.
      Williams ran 400m... 52's as a soph...

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  5. While this isn't a big deal on paper, simply because Pitt has a lot of quality talent at tailback, it's a big deal perception-wise. Chryst is trying to shed his "can't/won't recruit" label, and losing one of his big commits would never do that.

    ...and let's face it, once this guy sees the atmosphere at Nebraska or Notre Dame, he's gone. Chryst isn't convincing or charismatic enough to overcome the gameday atmosphere flaws.

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    1. Where did you read that Chryst is trying to shed any kind of label? I'm sure he could care less what a bunch of message board jockeys think of his recruiting methods!

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  6. I got blasted for saying wait til LOI day. I am still hoping he will be panther

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  7. "Chryst is trying to shed his "can't/won't recruit" label"

    I thought his label was simply that he was known as someone who doesn't like it. Only since he came to Pitt have I heard that he can't do it...and thats mostly from this blogspot.

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  8. I just want one RB in this class anyway. There is still a massive need for linemen.

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  9. If this guy bolts, that will really magnify the goof this summer when that Green kid (5-star RB from VA) didn't visit because our coaches were too busy being on vacation.

    We may not have landed Green anyway. But it's certainly not a great sign if we whiff on both (especially Clement after we had a verbal...).

    Plus I was hoping for a sign that the new crew had a pulse for recruiting blue-chippers in NJ.

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  10. Hey guys, it's all going to work out. I don't know how, but it's all going to work out.

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  11. I like the Wanny way with recruits. Mutual commitments. Regardless of how this turns out, it will be a lesson for PC. Did we stop recruiting Zaire and David Williams because of Coreys verbal?

    I agree with Jody that Zaire was looking at Pitt hard until Corey came this way. Also, the recent talk of Shell taking a redshirt may have something to do with it. That said, winning cures a lot of things. Pitt puts up 8 wins with our QB and lack of depth and it will springboard recruiting for next year. There may be many changes by LOI day and it will be interesting how PC handles verbals that visit other campuses. I prefer a pulled schollie offer as commitments are two way streets. Wanny would honor a commitment even if a kid got hurt during his senior when other coaches like Urban and Kelly would run the other way and turn their backs.

    What happens if Brian Kelly lays another egg at ND? He is already on the hot seat...

    Doke, can you answer a question. What are the rules for colleges paying for the expenses of parents that want to see their kids play? I.E. does a player at WVU, whose closest away game is over 700 miles away, get to have his parents travel to Kansas and have that trip paid for by the university? It seems weird, but I always seem to see parents of kids without money showing up at all the away games for big programs. Sorry for the long rant but I have always wondered....

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    1. Parents aren't given trips anywhere. It's up to them to get to the game.

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    2. And should they take those trips on their own, the school or anyone related to a school employee cannot buy them so much as a burger or a beer....even if it's one person picking up a round for a larger group that a parent may be tagging along with such as the spouses of AD members. Pretty strict rules.

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  12. ugh. i wish pitt had enough clout to just say "if you commit, youre part of the family. but if you dont stop looking or you decommit, youre done". sadly, they dont. thats something that the michigans and texas' can do. i say pitt cant afford to do this because, the likes of texas and michigan can replace a clement with another clement. can pitt? i dont know, but runningback is a position where there are tons of quality backs out there for the taking who have interest in pitt.

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  13. The kid is going to go to a school where he perceives he can play in a year or two. Pitt right now has some quality depth at running back and maybe this kid thinks he might have to sit for 2 to 3 years. Pitt needs depth and quality lineman on both sides of the ball. If they lose this kid no big deal, Pitt needs players in the trenches, they have some bodies but not enough quality.

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  14. A solid RB prospect from florida named Lorenzo Woodley is high on Pitt. If we lose Clement we won't lose much if Woodley commits. I think Clement will stick with Pitt wasn't he one of the guys that wanted to enroll early? I know it was Jarrett, Chapman, Soto, and I thought Clement was in the mix as well.

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    1. There's no way Woodley is going to go to Pitt. Seriously, why would he with offers from Florida State, South Florida and FIU - all close to home in Miami.

      No matter how you slice it, if we do lose Clement and I would bet the house that we will, it's a big loss.

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    2. Purdue, Vanderbilt, and Pitt in top 3. But yes clement will hurt.

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  15. Here's a news flash.

    No recruit is solid at this point.

    At the same time all the "maybes" have as much chance of becoming a "yes" as a "no."

    With Chryst and Co. being an untested product it's all going to come down to performance and why shouldn't it.

    Personally I'm not worried.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Completely agree, these "commitments" mean nothing right now, especially taking into consideration that these "commitments" are coming from 16-18 year old kids that have no clue what they'll be doing five minutes from now.

      PC runs an offense and defense that gets kids ready to play at the next level, that's all that matters with these kids. Look at the kids Wanny brought in here with their rankings, which didn't translate into on-filed success for the program so much but put a lot of kids in the NFL. Kids see that, you're recruiting becomes that much easier.

      Mike W.

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  16. The Trib listed Top 38 Preseason for wpial..
    There are 17 Juniors ( 2014)...not counting P/K
    There are 2 Sophmores..
    To make this list as a Junior or Soph in my opinion means you probably have D1 talent.

    How many of the 17 2014's got an offer from Pitt?
    Who got an offer from Pitt but not on the list?

    http://triblive.com/sports/2445547-85/6-2-6-0-6-1-180-190-6-3-175-gateway-6-4-6-5

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  17. PC betting get moving as there are some 6th graders he hasn't offered yet!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Here is the answer...
      of the 17... 8 have offers from Pitt...
      There is 1-2014 player with an offer from Pitt not on the list... this player didn't make the PG pre-season list either.

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    2. The opinion of sports writers means nothing in the face of the opinion of a highly qualified college football coach.

      Your opinion means nothing in the face of the opinion of a sports writer.

      This should show you how much your opinion actually means.

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    3. Based on inquiries from HS coaches....
      in fact, for all-conference, the HS coaches do the voting for the PG list... can't vote on your own player.
      This same player was not all-conference as a sophmore.

      Guess you figured out who I'm speaking of...

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    4. Joe D - yes, I/we know of whom you speak. Let it go. I'll agree its a bit of an odd one, but unless you have some sort of smoking gun its just not cool to question the integrity of PC. He's done nothing to deserve that.

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    5. OH... I think it was EJ's idea... not PC's idea.
      and it worked!!!
      Werner now covers Pitt..

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  18. Per a recruiting site, Pitt's stellar 2013 class:

    Carson Baker OL 6-5/315 NR
    Chris Blewitt K 5-10/175 15
    Zach ChallingsworthWR 6-2/184 NR
    Tra'von Chapman QB 6-2/200 13
    Corey Clement RB 5-11/205 27
    James Conner DE 6-2/232 NR
    Matt Galambos LB 6-2/223 NR
    Tony Harper DB 6-4/195 NR
    Titus Howard DB 6-2/165 NR
    Tyrique Jarrett DT 6-4/310 NR
    Luke MacLean LB 6-3/233 31
    Scott Orndoff TE 6-6/245 18
    Jaymar Parrish TE 6-1/234 NR
    Aaron Reese OL 6-5/290 NR
    Shakir Soto DE 6-4/248 NR
    Ryan Winslow K 6-5/215 14

    ACC here we come

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    1. You're going to get in trouble posting rankings. Don't you know, alabama, lsu, and usc being at the top of the recruiting rankings means nothing.

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    2. Per recruiting site we are 38th nationally with that class puts us right in the middle of the ACC right now. WVU has had way worse recruiting classes then Clemson and still blew them out. I don't think anyone here is comparing or thinking we are Bama, LSU, and USC so both of you are being way to extreme.

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    3. A lot of those rankings will change during the course of these kids senior year, I wouldn't put much stock in those rankings at this point.

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    4. I hope they change for the better but remember they can go down too, if they whiff on Boyd, Foster and Johnson its a disaster.

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    5. Al-Rasheed Benton will visit Pitt a four star linebacker from Jersey. We are in the top 2 with WVU. But from what I can gather he rather play close to home and ACC games are closer then Big whatever conference that is in America's southwest. Also a monster from away Jason Tretter is visiting Pitt he's unranked because he missed his entire junior year so he's way under the radar for a 6'7 310lb kid. Hopefully can turn out like a Isaac Bennet a 2 star kid that missed some high school football games because of injury.

      http://wadsworth.ohio.com/sports/high-school-notebook-revere-lineman-jason-tretter-draws-recruiting-interest-now-that-he-is-healthy-1.317106 here's a link for more info on the kid.

      A final wish list
      Foster, Johnson, Benton, Justin Moody, Jaryd Jones-Smith, maybe this Tretter or another O line man, and finally DB either Jaleel Mytchye or someone else. Obviously this a wish list but all these guys all have PITT in at least their top 5 (Mytchye, Foster). Smith has PITT in top 4, Johnson and Moody PITT in top 3, and Benton top 2.

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    6. Maybe this staff can do with tretter what they did with chris wuestner. Have him walk on and try to earn his scholarship. As for the rest of your wishlist, that would be very good and, like you said, its reasonable.

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    7. Benton is an absolutely destroyer. Think Mason before the injury. He'd be a GREAT pickup.

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  19. Doke:

    Can we expect any season preview / predictions / best case worst case before Saturday?

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