Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Tom Ricketts out for the season

It's just been announced by Pitt that Panthers OT Tom Ricketts will have to sit out this year due to shoulder surgery.  This follows the announcement that fellow OT Juantez Hollins is out for the year for disciplinary reasons.

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  1. This offensive line is an absolute disaster. Almost no talent at all, plus no depth. This is what years of horrible recruiting result in: a Division III offensive line.

    Chryst better go get some JUCOs....if he's capable of that.

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  2. I'd love to see Bisnowtowy get some playing time... even if special teams.
    But frosh Oline rarely see the field...

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    1. Why in the world would you waste a redshirt year by having Bisnowaty play on the field goal team?

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  3. What's the statute of limitations on apologies?

    Unless he murdered someone, can we give a mulligan to Juantez Hollins, like the Big East apologized to Temple? "Welcome back! We were just kidding!! Can't you take a joke, for Pete's sake?!?"

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  4. Well.. There is this JuCo who's apparently interested.. unless scout is behind.

    http://jcfootball.scout.com/a.z?s=87&p=8&c=1&nid=6124340

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  5. Can he get a medical redshirt?

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    1. Yes but he cannot apply for a med redshirt until after his eligibility has run out (so after rsSr season)

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  6. I'll be shocked if Ricketts ever suits up for the Panthers for a meaningful snap.

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  7. What's up with Zenel D? Is he useful at all or just a human garbage disposal? He's 6-8 and 330lbs. For the love of god who's gonna move him if he has an athletic bone in his body? Is he that worthless? We need bodies desparately!!

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  8. Mentioned this on another feed, but Josh Stepoli seemed to be available and didn't sign with anyone last year. Pitt apparently offered him last season. Any Stepoli updates?

    Bisnowotny working on special teams and not seeing the field with the OL would be a waste of a year. If he is good enough to contribute right away, play him. If not and he needs to develop, let him work on it for a year. My goodness, to use him as a special teamer only borders on insanity jody. Dorain J. looks like he is all clear to see the field for three years in a row before jumping to nfl if he goes to Pitt. There isn't a better opportunity at a BCS school if you ask me.

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    1. Stepoli was arrested with guns and stolen merchandise. No thanks.

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    2. The Stepoli's were problems in HS... saw that coming a mile away.. well, the parents were partly to blame.
      Huff,
      I'd like to see Bisnotoway see the field... but I have never seen a true frosh play Oline.. that is why even if he can get special teams work.

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    3. really? shows how much you watch football. florida state started 4 freshman on o line last year, 1 of which was their right tackle, who left hs eary and was only 17. granted, their biggest weakness was offensive line. im not saying its good to have young guys playing there, far from it, but you have NEVER seen it? lol

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    4. Were the FSU players true freshmen, or redshirts freshmen?

      Locally, CJ Davis and Joe Thomas started as true freshmen for Pitt in 2005 and 2006, respectively, albeit due to injury.

      Joe is correct in the sense that it doesn't happen all that often.

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  9. Doke,

    Okay, guns & stolen merchandise, not good, undefensible. But we're one more OL guy going down (whether injury, suspenstion, whatever...) away from desperation.

    So from that viewpoint, any chance the kid turned his life around, learned his lesson? Plenty of guys have (Allen Iverson comes to mind). Unfortunately, plenty of guys don't (Lawrence Phillips from Nebraska, Maurice Clarette, etc.).

    Makes me wonder if Chryst wouldda still run off that center from Ohio last year because he was "only" 6'-3 / 275 if he had it to do over again?

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    1. They have 16 Olineman on roster per Rivals..
      the following have the size Chryst likes..
      Zenel D - 325#, 6'7", Jr.
      Doakes - 340#, 6'6", So.
      Rotheram - 335#, 6'6", So.
      Don't know if these are redshirt or what..

      Anyway, seems the 3 listed above haven't shown up for work!!
      Throw them in there and see what they can do... or cut them loose at end of season if they are not putting the work in.

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  10. Hey Chris, we are moving up in the recruiting rankings per scout at #43

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    1. #58 on rivals...
      The Scout Northeast evaluators tend to "over-rate" compared to other regions... Rivals is more conservative and consistent across the US... my opinion.

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    2. Dunno if Scout is too liberal or if Rivals grades too harshly. Dunno who's "right" (maybe neither of them...).

      But Scout's ratings are often a star-grade higher than Rivals for the same guy, for whatever reason.

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    3. Here's a thought... Always look at both and never bet your house on either.

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  11. longsufferingpittfanAugust 9, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    This is disappointing news. I was at a golf outing last week and spoke to his father (who is a really nice guy and should have been on Doke's top 50 list). He was optimistic that his son was going to play this year. Hope the shoulder heals and he can get out there in 2013.

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  12. Thanks for the follow-up on Stepoli. I just went back through the recruit list for this incoming year that hadn't committed anywhere and saw his name. If he had guns and merchandise, he should attend school where michael dwyer(?) from auburn / arkansas state does as they go together.

    Was hoping for a last minute add although I do like the size of Doakes, Zen and Rotheram (who has a brother that is just as big ready to come out next year. Bryan Anderson was another recruit that I saw with 3 stars that didn't commit anywhere. I think I remember him having a medical issue however.

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  13. Bryan Anderson has a rare type of cancer, that ended his football dreams. Wish the kid well.

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  14. Anybody know... what's with all the injuries???
    Must be 20 players the 1st week!!! Is it...
    - conditioning
    - improper warmup
    - not hydrating properly...
    Any of the 3 above... the trainers should be fired!! Elementary stuff...

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    1. the only serious injury is ricketts... all the others are bumps and bruises and cramps. if you read zeise's redshirt diaries he talks about how physical camp has been and thats without pads.

      it also seems that the starting front 7 on defense can be very good, with depth emerging at linebacker. inoke breckterfield said that the light has dwitched on for tj clemmings and he has been dominating that spot and ty ezell has been very good at de. he also raved about jack lippert playing his best football and competing with kk for tthe starting nose tackle spot. it seems like these coaches have brought out a competitive fire in all of these players

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    2. of course, they do need more bodies in the trenches and at mlb.

      one side note, it seems like olb froshs devon porchia and deaysean rippy have been very impressive. if healthy, olb will be stacked for years to come. the three deep at the sam will be todd thomas, eric williams, deaysean rippy (i suppose) and the mike will be nick grigsby, juan price, devon porchia. all are fast and athletic and should be very good playmakers

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    3. They've only been in pads for two days. I wouldn't get too carried away with early reports.

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  15. Really. A week into camp and the trainers should get fired, and thats elementary based on one unfortunate incident with ricketts. C'mon man...what a joke

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    1. Anony...
      About 20 have sat out or didn't finish the sesssion.. falling like flies.. see Chryst video.
      - cramps, dings, etc...

      has nothing to do with Ricketts... albeit he is 1 of the 20.

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    2. Chryst himself said... we are going to be separating the men from the boys... my translation... some of these players are panzies.. he discussed the difference of playing hurt versus playing injured. I know... symantics but I know what he was leading to.

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    3. JoeD,

      Every coach in the world says "separating the men from the boys." Even Zeise (the one without the Pitt offer) makes comments about practice without pads versus practice with pads.

      Those of us in Pittsburgh now commonly refer to this as "football in shorts" - one of the best known Tomlinisms...

      Camp and injuries always go hand-in-hand. Reading into this is a little much. Happens at all levels and sometimes comes in bunches.

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    4. Cramps, strains, pulls, lack of hydration, etc...
      That is ALL on the trainer...
      sorry..
      that is all preventable in my opinion..
      its a tell-tale sign of who put the work in.. in the off-season.. no excuse for hydration issues.
      note... I said trainers... not the position coaches or HC.

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    5. Honestly Joe, those types of thing happen at all levels all the time. The Steelers have their fair share of stains and pulls - and these are professional athletes. Personally, I don't read anything into the injures to this point. I can't say that I ever remember a camp without cramps, strains, pulls. In fact, I alway expect some of thos to happen. When you play a contact sport for 3 hours a day, four 4 days in a row (with more to come) in 86 degree heat and high humidity, things like these are bound to happen.

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    6. Yes... it happens...
      but the volume hitting Pitt is very high..
      regarding Steelers and professional athletes... there are many of those that don't put the work in also and go to camp and push it hard and get hurt... reason being... they didn't put the work in off-season... coming in overweight, etc.

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    7. Joe D.--it is not the athletic trainers fault that these players are getting strains, sprains, shoulder injuries, cramping, dehydration, etc. The conditioning aspect is on the strength and conditioning coach and cramping/dehydration issues are on the players themselves. If they aren't eating and properly re-hydrating that is on them. As for the other injuries, guess what--it is a contact sport. These guys are going to get injured sometimes. Not all injuries are preventable. As for your request for the "trainers" to get fired, educate yourself before commenting.

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  16. I think lebron james sat out during the finals with cramps, but who is he. He knows nothing about taking care of his body. Bumps, bruises, strains and sprains are all part of the game. Everybody gets them. The issue is that the Coach needs to understand from the medical staff, which ones to push and which ones to sit.

    Ray Graham, works out well and rests. He admits he is sore and that is not on the trainer. These guys are being asked to do things with their bodies that common folk just don't do. The human body is not built for football. My goodness, to blame a coach and training staff a couple of days in is ridiculous. Now, if the players are hunched over grasping for air at the beginning of the fourth quarter because they are gassed, that goes to conditioning. Geezums Jody, give your blame game a rest for a few days and actually enjoy the time of a new season on the horizon instead of stupid predictions of doom and gloom.

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  17. Huff and RKR and others...
    How many wins will Pitt get in 2012 regular season??
    I believe 6..

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    1. and my reasons..
      DL - no depth... pray they don't get hurt..
      OL - no decent starters or depth..
      LB - ??? no opinion.. seems average.
      DB - Strongest of all position players.
      RB - Good... even if Graham is part-time player
      WR/TE - Average at best... and QB can't throw... it will be dink and dunk.. look for Holtz to be playmaker.
      QB - Weak and no depth.

      So, the defense will have to win the games for Pitt...
      don't see Pitt putting up many points and try to control the possesion time with run, run, and run somemore... but OLine is shaky for a run strategy or pass strategy.

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    2. Well, since I have no idea what kind of coach PC is, I'll have to speculate based off last year. Realistically, I expect 8 wins. 7 would be a little disappointing an 6 would be very disappointing. Anything above 8 would seem to be good.

      However, it also depends on how each game plays out. If we lose a few heart breakers like last year, 7-5 can seem worse. Also keep in mind how expectations change - like the Pirates. At the beginning of the year we would have killed for .500, now .500 seems like a sure thing and many fans will be disappointed if they miss the playoffs.

      Playing one last year in the BE helps too. I don't see one team that is head and shoulders above the others. I think Pitt may actually have the most talent. We were able to beat the 2012 favorites in 2011 - even with TG as coach.

      If I had to lay money, I'd say 8-4, 2nd in the BE.

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    3. I predicted 8 last year...
      and I thought last years team was better and had more depth... albeit the Graham coaching was pathetic.

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    4. I'm hoping you're wrong again this year :)

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    5. Me too...
      8 wins will be tough this year...

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    6. Seems that way today, I bet our expectations change during the season. Hopefully - like the Bucs - expectations go UP! Nothing would be sweeter than to win the BE OUTRIGHT in the final year.

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  18. @ Joe D

    I am predicting an 8-4 season with losses to Virginia Tech, Louisville, Notre Dame and one other team..

    Best case is probably 10-2, worst case I'd say 6-6 (No surprise your prediction).

    I wouldn't be shocked with 7, 8 or 9 wins.. I'd be pleasantly surprised with 10 and pretty disappointed with 6.

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  19. Salath Williams transferring according to pantherlair. Any word on where and why?

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    1. What players have transferred, quit, or kicked off team since Chryst took over?
      My count...
      WR - Williams
      WR - Patton (Poland, OH)
      QB - Meyer

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    2. Yeh but gained the post gazette in a great marketing campaign by offering the younger Ziese a ship. In recruiting like you have stated before is important. If you can't pay them or manipulate them like other big programs, you can get the media on your side. One of the biggest reasons Joe Pa is being torched on a national level because he treated the media like garbage up until days before his death. Even if the kid doesn't deserve the offer (which i think he does) I think its a shrewd and great move by the staff.

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  20. Will know better in mid December. Look, I expect them to be 1-0 after the first week. As a practice, I only focus on the first game because injuries and the like occur to all teams, so it is fluid. If Ray Graham goes down in week one, expectations diminish. If Tino goes down in week one, expectations rise. Just kidding. I am hopeful that he does well.

    Seriously, I don't typically predict for the reasons set forth above. I disagree with coaches, like Graham, who say their goal is to win a championship. I want a coach that says, I am here to win the next game and goes and does it more than he doesn't. If there is a focus on any other game than the next one, that is problematic. That said, there are times when the opponent is so inferior that you should be able to look one game ahead (YSU). But seriously, Pitt hasn't been good enough to do that for various reasons, one of which under Wannstedt, he had no desire to put up points and blow a team out. I do believe that the Coach and Player should aspire to championships, but the focus must be on the next game. You can never go undefeated without winning the first game. Cliches, but true.

    Graham wanted to keep the pedal to the metal. Unfortunately, his driver's foot wasn't able to reach the pedal, the metal or see above the dashboard. Hopefully Chryst give him the comfort of a booster seat to help him be successful.

    To acquiesce Joe and to show you I can play well with others, all things being equal and with no major injuries to Pitt or their opponents, I see a 7 but most likely an 8 win season. Those numbers would be a decent building block for Coach Chryst. As a reference point, Nick Saban went 7-6 during his first year at Alabama, with better talent, albeit, better competition during some of the SEC schedule. They did play west carolina, houston and louisi munroe.

    As a fan, I want them to win them all. As a fan, I also want them to win more than they lose. As a fan, I want to build them up versus rip them down. It is proven that it is more difficult to find good things to say about people, performance, than bad. I am just not one of those people. The Pitt family needs to embrace Paul Chryst. We may be sitting on a gold mine and I want to find out instead of scaring another coach away. Look across the street Pitt....one, if not the most important reasons that the Steelers are so great because of continuity. Follow that lead. It will pay off.

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  21. 8-4 is a real possibility, they were pretty competitive late last year without Ray Graham, they lost to UC by 3, they beat UL and lost to WVU by 1. Joe D the cupboard is not empty and devoid of players.

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  22. I think the realistic over/under is 7-5. I would be surprised if it was anything other than 6-8 regular season wins.

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  23. I've said this before: anything less than 8-4 is a real, real bad sign.

    We love to bash Fraud Graham, but give him this years schedule, and Pitt goes 8-4 last year. And that's with the change to the "unfamilar" system and the injuries.
    Not that 8-4 on that schedule is anything to be proud of, but you get the point.

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  24. my prediction has been 8-4 if all of the key players stay healthy. if some other guys play above expectations 9-3 is possible.

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    http://www.pedobearcostume.com/

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  26. Phil Steele has them on his most improved list for this season at #14.
    Thinks they will sneak up on some folks.

    With a roster more geared to a Chryst offense than a spread, and a much better coaching staff this year - they won't throw the kids under the bus and the kids already seem to want to play for him, and a weaker schedule, a 6 win season would be disappointing....not a "somebody has to pay for this with their job" season. Until I see the OL run block, I have a hard time predicting.

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  27. ...so for now I'm thinking in the range of 7-9 wins.

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  28. Looks like most are in agreement on the pre-season bracket for wins predictions. I still adhere to the one game only approach, i.e. our goal after beating YSU is to be 2-0, not worrying about BE implications, VT the next week or anything other than Cincinnati. Look ahead, you get your knees chopped off. Pitt isn't good enough to look ahead, or gloat about what they have done in the past.

    They need to get better every game, act like it is a business, and take joy in beating their current opponent only. No need to talk crap when they start out well, or blame others if they don't. Personally, I think they go vanilla against YSU as it will give little film for Cincy and VT, which come up on the schedule pretty quickly. They need a solid start.

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  29. Huff - fully agree!

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