Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Paul Chryst statement- What does is mean?


“I understand the speculation surrounding my name given today’s developments. I am committed to the Pitt football program and the University of Pittsburgh. I am focusing all my time and energy on our team’s bowl game preparation and recruiting a great group of young men to join our program and this outstanding university. We are working hard every day to re-establish this program and I am excited about the future of Pitt football.”

72 comments:

  1. With the coaching change at Wisconsin, will that put Corey Clement back in play for Pitt?

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    1. Pitt wasn't in his final three so I'm guessing not.

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    2. Norte dame was his runner up, but I think he'll stay with wisc.

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  2. Lot of speculation that he didn't go as far as saying he is not interested in the UW job, however, I am going to keep the faith with "I am committed to the Pitt football program ..."

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  3. Would Rudolph be a head coach candidate there?

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  4. The main thing that keeos coming back to Paul is what type of guy he is. Not your typical talker, bowl shitter, who gives alot of BS. That said, he went to Wisc for college, grew up there, etc etc. After saying that he will not leave after one yr when Pitt gave him the chance to do what he always wanted to do--coach a team that he can relate too and he will feel at home with. Might be tuff for Paul, but he will stay and he will finish the recruting class off with a bang.

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  5. Will Jeff Long's decision at Arkansas put the Pitt coaching carousel back in motion?

    And

    Is Pitt going to set the record for the number of head coaches in a 3 year time frame?

    I hope not but I'm concerned.

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  6. To respond to the rhetorical question...

    The statement is meaningless... it doesn't say anything of substance..

    I don't think Bostad is a candidate... he never has been OC yet.
    The NIU guy that just signed with NCState may be the lead candidate..

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  7. Agree...this statement does nothing but to allow more speculation. He does not say that he plans to remain as coach as most state when they are staying. I would be less concerned if it were not Wisconsin.

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  8. I don't put much substance into the statement with the state of coaches coming and going. I would feel a lot better with a statement like I promise I will be Pitt's head coach tomorrow, for the bowl, on signing day and for opening day next year. I would put a lot more stock into that compared to the general statement that is out there. I like to think he is committed for the long run but I would not be surprised if he left. Hopefully the 18 million buy out is true. That would be tough to shell out for Nick S.

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    1. I heard 10million...
      5 years x 2mill/yr... it declines 2mill/yr during term of his 5 year contract.

      Not that I'm that impressed with Chryst..
      but the last thing Pitt needs is another HC...
      I've said, Chryst will be here 3 years.. after 3 years.. who knows...

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  9. Not to be negative, but I didn't see anything approaching the level of denials uttered by William Tecumseh Sherman: "If drafted, I will not run; if nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve."

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  10. Sheesh... the Wisconsin fans are actually more optimistic on the quality of MAN and his WORD that Chryst is.

    Note to Pitt fans... not all coaches are slime balls like Fraud Graham.

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  11. Butch Jones of Cincy said to be on Wisky short list...
    Just turned down Purdue..
    dancing with Colorado.
    he is from bumfuck Michigan... so Wisky is perfect fit.. doubtful he would go to Colorado if Wisky knocking.

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  12. For the record, I believe Chryst will be coaching at Pitt next year. No inside info, just an educated guess.

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  13. The feeling I get is that most people would be disappoint if PC left. Wow, after the first two games and some other key losses we wanted him out of here & he can't recruit & he has no plan etc... I think the PC way is starting to win people over. This is a good thing & goes to show it takes time to win people over. & establish a program. H2P!!

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    1. I don't know if it's all love for Chryst. A lot of it is the setback that would come from having another coaching change.

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    2. My position... and I've been hard on Chryst...

      It will be a major setback for recruiting this year and next year with another coaching change... we already lost 2 recruiting years of 2011 and 2012. We can't lose anymore.

      Chyrst is here for 3 years... whether they be good or bad just for some stability.

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    3. I don't think he's going anywhere for a couple of reasons:

      One, even though he has a track record at Wisconsin and is a Madison native, PC has one year of experience as the big dog in a much lesser conference than the Big 10 and went 6-6. Not exactly glowing credentials to take over an upper tier program in the Big 10.

      Two, Wisconsin is a much bigger job than Pitt right now, whether anyone likes to hear that or not. While PC had success there as an OC, that program can attract a more high profile and more accomplished coach than PC. I'd be surprised if he's even a candidate, to be honest.

      Take into consideration that Bielema knew he was leaving over two weeks ago and that I'm sure Alvarez did as well, because usually these things do not happen unless permission is granted by the current employer, scumbag Graham excluded of course. If PC was headed to UW that probably would already be a done deal.

      Mike W.

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  14. Chris, why wasn't PC more assertive in his statement. Why didn't he clearly say I am not leaving I am staying as HC off Pitt?

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    1. First of all, he doesn't even write that. Secondly, there's only so much you can deny when you probably weren't even approached yet. You run the risk of looking stupid denying a job that may not even be yours to deny.

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  15. Chryst obviously the frontrunner in Madison.

    Rudolph the obvious pick for the Pitt job.

    PittofDreams

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    1. There's a 0% chance that Rudolph would be the next Pitt coach and it's not obvious that Chryst is the frontrunner for the Wisconsin job.

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  16. It means we're another inch closer to naming Bill O'Brien our 38th head coach.

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  17. It means we're another inch closer to naming Bill O'Brien our 38th head coach.

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  18. Chris, I knew you would say that.

    PittofDreams

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  19. It means: "I wish you all well."

    Just joking ...

    Z

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  20. I believe PC has to be a candidate. Alvarez was the man behind the curtain promoting the value of PC so even if Wisc goes in a different direction PC will
    be interviewed. Why the concern of Pitt football fans? It seems like it was just yesterday when there was a hastily convened press conference for DW and don't forget the asst ad looking in TG front window The Pitt football program has been through
    Enough already. If SP thinks PC is the man for the job pony up and pay otherwise every year will be the same during coaching change time. Time to put
    Money into asst coaches positions and hire from the available pool. Other commentors have stated that they want the program run like a business time to introduce six sigma from SP down

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    1. PC is getting paid fairly well... 1 report put it at 1.7million.
      Do you see PC name on any other coaching short list?
      Not even Purdue of Big10!!
      PC will need 3 years to be considered anywhere... even for a Pitt extension and/or raise.

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    2. Not a decision any poster can make. The comments intent was for SP to get out in front of the debacle of hiring yet another coach in his tenure. All posters are concerned about the program but in my opinion you get out of it what you put onto it. The time is now to upgrade the assistant coaches ranks not all are keepers When you are 6-6 changes have to be made. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results. Extensions are like any contract they can be. Broken ask skip holtz but it is a plus on the recruiting trail for stability

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    3. There's a reason Alvarez was pushing for PC to get the Pitt job, and it's mainly that PC wasn't going to be considered for the UW job if it came open in the near future. If PC were that vital to UW's success, they would not have granted permission to Pitt to discuss the job with them and Alvarez would have upped PC's compensation to make up for that and keep him there.

      PC was turning down other opportunities to remain in Madison, whether if that was for personal or professional reasons no one knows, but your current employer isn't going to promote you for another job with another employer if you're considered vital to his success now or in the near future.

      Mike W.

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    4. I really dont know what the thought process was by Alvarez but I know one thing without PC and co. Wisc would not have made their third Rose Bowl with out the suspensions of OSU AND PSU. Perhaps Alvarez thought he did not need PC, but on the field performance (Nebraska game not included) was not the same Wisc. team that steam rolled over B10competition in years past. I maintain that no one associated with Pitt football wants another coaching search headed by SP. SP needs to get out in front of this situation offering an extension with the sidelight of positional coaching changes to further enhance a 6-6 team. It all comes down to money. Will Pitt pony up? the assistants paypool needs to increase to keep good talent and attract new talent to further what we all want. A WINNING FOOTBALL PROGRAM.

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    5. I'm not saying that Alvarez didn't think he needed PC at UW; what I am saying is that PC had turned down some other career advancing opportunities to stay at UW as an OC, and basically what Alvarez did by pushing PC for the Pitt job was tell him if you want to be a head coach you need to go elsewhere, it won't happen here.

      Most AD's aren't going to quibble over staff leaving their program unless they consider a member of that staff to be heir apparent, because realistically, there are very few college jobs that coaches would never consider leaving, and UW isn't one of them as evidenced by Bielema leaving for essentially a lateral move prgram wise for Arkansas and more money.

      While PC has a history with the UW program and would be a sentimental pick, IMHO PC has known that Bielema was leaving UW prior to yesterday, as it has been reported that Bielema knew he was leaving for two weeks before announced. If that is the case, Alvarez knew at that time as well, and if he wanted PC, he would have already resigned and would be heading to Madison. PC has the potential to be a good head coach, but one year does not a B10 coaching hire make, especially a 6-6 year in a bad conference.

      Mike W.

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    6. While we agree to disagree on certain points I agree with you that PC does have the potential to be a good head coach. Pitt needs him to be the stabilizer to quell all of the past mismanagement of past two hires. My point is simply PC can not progress the program remaining status quo with his current staff. PC can not attract better assistants until SP opens the purse strings. Pitt can not progress with a constant head coach carosuel. For better or worse we all need PC to be successful and he cant be successful without a larger salary pool for his assistants.

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    7. I completely agree with you on that. Usually when an assistant gets his first HC gig, he hires guys he's worked with before and has a comfort level with. That doesn't always mean they're the best people for that given program, and that ends up sorting itself out. What SP has to do is what you had said, open the purse strings smiley.

      I think it's telling that assistants left UW to go with PC to Pitt last year as to what the situation really was with Bielema and Alvarez. That being said, I really don't think that Alvarez is going to try to pull PC back to UW at this point, he's probably already had a short list in mind and most of the people associated with UW from last year and this year are aware of that. This may be an opportunity for PC to upgrade his staff, but I wouldn't look for guys like Huxtable, Rudolph or OL coach to be leaving.

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  21. The fact he put out a statement so quickly is a good sign that he is staying. Most coaches would not come out say anything

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  22. Money aside, am I the only person that can't see how Arkansas is a better HC job than Wisconsin? Maybe $$ is the only thing that matters, but I don't see how this is a better opportunity. Further, anyone think Jeff Long took just a little bit of pleasure in knowing that the ripple effect of this decision would impact Pitt, the school that didn't give him the big job?

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    1. @CJK

      My understanding is BB got a $500K raise to go to Arkansas.

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    2. @CJK

      My understanding is BB got a $500K raise to coach at Arkansas.

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    3. That is not a lot of money...
      the question to ask is why Wisky didn't match it!!!
      They have Big10 money to throw around...

      I think Beliema made a dumb move going to Arkansas... if he doesn't have 8 win seasons every year... he will be gone... whereby he had job security at Wisky and Wisky would weather some down years.

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    4. Joe

      I think Bielema had a few issues with Alvarez, nothing major but it appears it was a mutual split.

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  23. Cristobal of FIU got fired!!!
    They probably got tired of his antics of leveraging job opportunities for a raise (negotiatiions were testy).... so he had a losing season and they booted him and his wife to the curb...

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    1. Cristobal was dancing with USF..
      Even though FIU signed Cristobal through 2017... they took this as an insult... so they fired him instead.. lmao
      Good for FIU...

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  24. Chris your boy Cristobal got canned. What say you?

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    1. He's not my boy. Of the three finalists, he was the only head coach, so I picked him since Pederson likes head coaching experience. As it turns out, Pederson didn't end up making the call.

      And the reason he got fired was because he kept looking for other jobs, this time USF, and the AD had enough. He still may be an excellent head coach someday.

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  25. There is talk of Barry Alvarez going back down to the field for a year or two.

    If that doesnt happen, it would be hard to see Chryst saying no to Wisky if offered the job. His daughter stayed in Madison to finish her senior yr in high school this yr. His parents still live there. If there was ever a dream job for anyone, this is it. Wisky grad...born and raised near Madison. OC for his alma mater prior to coming here.....Im just hoping he's not given the chance to say yes.

    Does Barry Alvarez want to keep his program at an elite level with a guy who has a 6-6 career record with only 1 year of being a head coach?

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  26. Going back to your Alma Mater is not always a great idea. Two great Pitt men, Dave Wannstedt & Foge Fazio tried it and it got them fired. It took Fazio 2 decades to get over it. Paul Chryst would be better to prove himself as a Head Coach at PITT.

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  27. Recruits are tweeting that Chryst is staying. IMO PC is one loyal dude and Pitt will be the recipient in the stabilization of the program. PC can see the big picture and he has to be excited about next year's recruits. It appears that he has done a commendable job this year. He knows that the program is going forward and he is the biggest reason. There will be immediate pressure to continue to win at Wisconsin. Three straight Rose Bowls has created a certain expectation. There is no dream job. Pitt is it.

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  28. Actually, I'm going off the board and saying that Barry Alvarez will return to the sidelines, hold the job for 2-3 years, then open the door for Chryst. This stabilizes the Wisconsin program in the short-term, and gives Chryst a chance to set Pitt on the right track.

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    1. I was thinking the same thing...
      Barry is 65..
      That would be good for Pitt and Wisky...

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  29. Actually, I'm going off the board and saying that Barry Alvarez will return to the sidelines, hold the job for 2-3 years, then open the door for Chryst. This stabilizes the Wisconsin program in the short-term, and gives Chryst a chance to set Pitt on the right track.

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  30. Just a couple random thoughts on the subject:

    - One question is how does Mrs. Chryst like living in Pgh? And that's not a Penni Graham reference, its just been my experience in the business world that a move only succeeds if the spouse is supportive.

    - Chryst actually doesn't need to make this decision right now. In all likelihood, the job will come open again during his career. Long term coaches are now the exception, not the rule (which is a shame IMHO). Pitt really has that in its favor.

    - Barry Alvarez chose Bret Bielema over PC to replace him at Wisconsin. Then Alvarez strongly endorses PC for the Pitt job. Perhaps its because he knew PC needed some head coaching experience, but that was not going to happen in Madison... at least for PC's first turn at the wheel. Perhaps Alvarez had doubts about PC's recruiting ability (I'm sure a bunch of you might agree) If you buy into that, do you think that one year - a mediocre one at that - suffices as enough head coaching experience for Alvarez? Perhaps he gives PC a courtesy interview - and PC goes as a courtesy....keeps the lines open...etc. - but in the end Alvarez picks a guy who can step in now and run the program.

    - If Alvarez steps back into the HC job for a couple years and meanwhile PC does well at Pitt.... then we are pribably looking for a new HC.




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  31. Some people are thinking way too highly of Wisconsin's program. They don't pay a lot, relatively speaking, they don't have a great local recruiting base, their facilities are among the worst in the Big 10 (though they are in the process of changing that), and they will never, ever be able to consistently beat out Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, and Nebraska. They deserve a ton of credit for turning themselves into a winner under their circumstances, but it's still going to be very difficult to consistently win big there. A great coach actually has a better chance of winning bigger at Pitt.

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    1. I was with you through the last sentence. And while I think PC is going to be a good head coach and doubt that he leaves after just one year, it's the stability of the Big 10 - not just Wisconsin - that makes the Wisconsin job more desirable in the long-run. Like you said, the facilities are on the way. They have a 15-20 year run as a contending program in the conference (so basically as long as any recruit has been alive, the Badgers have been playing competitive football) and the conference is adding teams, not losing them.

      Say what you will about the Big 10, but when there are four super conferences in 5-10 years, there is little doubt that the Big 10 will be a part of it. Can we say the same about the ACC? That's what makes most Big 10 jobs (save maybe Purdue, Minnesota and Indiana) more appealing than the Pitt job right now and for the foreseeable future.

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  32. 1. Alvarez taking the job would be bad for Pitt because after a handful of years, either: (a) PC will have success at Pitt and be a major leading candidate for UW; or (b) PC will flop at Pitt. Either case, Pitt is looking for a new man in <5 years.

    2. These people saying that BB and/or Alvarez endorsed PC for Pitt so that he could get experience before taking over for BB are crazy. Nobody knows what will happen from one year to the next, and what jobs will be open. These guys were simply endorsing a man/friend they thought was ready for a top job.

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  33. I'm not going to even try to figure out the meaning of Chryst's statement. I'm going to wait and see what happens. People can say whatever they want; it's what they ultimately end up doing that really matters.

    I think he'd be better served staying at Pitt, at least for a few years to move the program forward and establish his credentials as a head coach.

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  34. Chryst will leave for WS if offered. It is unquestionably a better job with more money. It is possible that Pitt could become a better job if the B10+4 continues its decline, but that is in the future and pure speculation. It is far from assured that Pitt can be in the top half of the ACC, which is now the worst of the major conferences (the BEast is NOT a major conference now). Wisconsin is in the top half of a better conference.

    Hopefully, Pederson was smart enough to negotiate a significant buyout amount (Graham's was a total joke -- and that weak severance penalty was a fireable offense). That might make Wiscy balk (if they are as cheap as they appear), and if they still pay, a big severance is a precedent.

    As for Cristobal -- good to know that at least one AD is dumber than SP. Go ahead and start looking for another coach and staff, make him quit -- by firing him, you make yourself temporarily pleased with yourself, but now you are on the hook for the rest of the contract. Worst. Personnel. Move. Ever.

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    1. Cristobal has an extremely low buyout/severance... they are not on the hook for the remainder of the contract.. His base salary is only $450.
      I think FIU did themselves a favor... best move in my opinion.

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    2. Unless there is some exigency with respect to recruiting (and how could there be with FIU?), then why not wait a week or two? If Cristobal is going to jump, as FIU suspects, then it will happen in a matter of a few weeks.

      Besides, FIU is a stepping stone -- or didn't their AD get the memo? Do you think a good assistant looking to get on the HC track is going to want to work for this AD? Someone will, but the AD just narrowed the field. Like it or not, good coaches and assistants are in the driver's seat.

      This is petulance and impatience at a school that hardly has the cash to indulge themselves.

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  35. Let's face it, you can the take the paper the statement was written on and wipe your you-know-what with it. Until Wisky hires a coach, Pitt fans will be hoping (and maybe even praying) we don't have to go through this crap again.

    Chryst's buyout is reportedly $6 million. But I think we can all say this is not a Fraud Graham situation. This time the coach is being sought after (supposedly) and short of hiring a big-name coach, this could be the death penalty for this program

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  36. Is there an credible feedback about PC meeting with the players today? Thanks.

    GZ

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  37. Joe D and chris you will both have to agree if Coach chryst does not take this job he has a lot of balls and will deserve a lot of respect. You know Alvarez is on his tail. Chryst is familiar with UW, the coaches and their is success with these coaches so it is a very smart hire in my mind because there will already be a relationship between them. Let alone his family and house is still there. If he declines this job, he is showing all of his cards. It will show that he is a true, genuine guy in college football. He can take this attitude to recruits' homes and say I am in it for the long haul. He will show he is not a bullshit coach like the rest of them. No one will doubt he has a brilliant mind even you Joe D.As bad as tino looked this year you have to admit he looks way better than last year. With a far worse talent of a line. If this team can assemble a decent o-line next year watch out wiith chryst at the end. I am hesitant till UW vacancy is filled tho

    trojan412

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    1. I had a good laugh on Tino today..
      Someone on yahoo wrote an article on risers and fallers for the NFL draft...
      and Tino was listed as a riser that may get drafted in the later rounds depending upon his workout... LOL... that guy is clueless... he obviously is just looking at the stats... doesn't know Tino can't throw long, etc.

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  38. Only if he is offered the job. Good ole Barry is trying to pull a Bill Snyder the only difference Barry is 7 years younger.

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  39. If Chryst does leave(which I highly doubt), do we then refer to everything bad with Pitt as "the curse of the stache?!?!"

    I think we should!!!

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  40. Chris,

    What is the chance Tom Bradley doesn't get the Head Coaching job at PITT?

    I will stop typing and wait for reply

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  41. Chris-

    Saw this story from Trib tonight and it sounds like the most positive news I've heard thus far. Seems like there is a lot of contact with recruits and they are being told in no uncertain terms that Chryst is not leaving. Any thoughts?

    Pitt coach Paul Chryst reached out to his prize recruit Wednesday, and quarterback Tra’von Chapman wasn’t shy about getting right to the point.
    “I asked him if he would be my coach, and he said he would,” said Chapman, a senior at Theodore Roosevelt High School in Kent, Ohio. “He said he would shoot me straight. He decided he’s here (at Pitt) to stay.”


    Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/college/pitt/3084304-85/chryst-chapman-pitt#ixzz2EF4lvDet
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  42. Chris-

    Saw this on the Trib and its the most reassuring thing I've seen thus far. Seems from this and other recruit tweets that they staff has been in contact with the recruits and telling them in no uncertain terms that Chryst is staying. Until I saw this I was of the opinion that if offered, he was gone. Your thoughts?

    FROM TRIB:
    Pitt coach Paul Chryst reached out to his prize recruit Wednesday, and quarterback Tra’von Chapman wasn’t shy about getting right to the point.
    “I asked him if he would be my coach, and he said he would,” said Chapman, a senior at Theodore Roosevelt High School in Kent, Ohio. “He said he would shoot me straight. He decided he’s here (at Pitt) to stay.”


    Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/college/pitt/3084304-85/chryst-chapman-pitt#ixzz2EF4lvDet
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  43. “All the speculation sounds false to me,” (Tra'von)Chapman said.

    Chapman, a four-star prospect who threw for 5,736 yards in two seasons at Roosevelt, is set to enroll at Pitt next month.

    “He made it pretty clear to me he is a Panther,” Chapman said. “He said he is excited for the second year (at Pitt) and getting the freshmen on campus.”

    This kid sounds like a leader to me. No wonder Chryst is hesitant to leave. I'd stay too.

    PittofDreams

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  44. He said he would be Chapman's coach but not where that would be. I do think he will be here.

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  45. Barry Alvarez said Chryst is staying at Pitt. Go read or listen to his comments. Get that guy for AD

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