Thursday, December 6, 2012

Visitors this week

As of now, there are ten 2013 prospects visiting this weekend, with four of them already committed.  Those four are Shakir Soto, Tra'von Chapman, Tyrique Jarrett, and Scott Orndoff.  Here are capsules of the six non-committed prospects, in the order of how good they are and how important it is to land them.


1.  Jaryd Jones-Smith, West Catholic HS (Philadelphia, PA) OT-  Because there are no big time programs in the Philadelphia area, kids there get overlooked often, but that's good news for Pitt because it may enable them to steal this kid.  He already has size at 6'7" and 315 pounds, and he is naturally big.  He has a frame that can get him to 340 and I wouldn't be surprised if he reached that level if he signed with Pitt.  

He's still raw and needs to get in the weight room, but his natural size, quick feet, and enormous wingspan is something the Pitt staff can really work with.  He's also young for his class so that's another plus. He may be a few years away from making an impact but an offensive line class that has Dorian Johnson and Jones-Smith at the top is a great sign for the future.

"Burger", as he's known, also has offers from NC State, Virginia, Temple, Central Florida, and Arizona.  Virginia and NC State are the biggest obstacles for the Panthers.

2.  JoJo Kemp, Deland HS (Deland, FL), RB-  He's not the prospect that the de-committed Corey Clement was, but that doesn't mean that Kemp won't be a better college player.  He's not big at 5'10" and 190, and he's not a speed demon, but he's quick, he has good hands, and he runs hard.  He's very similar in style to former Pitt star Dion Lewis in that he's small, but he's tough between the tackles, and he is a much better football player than his size and speed would indicate. 

Bottom line, Clement had the makings of a future stud, but Kemp is the kind of all around back that could contribute in many ways over four years.

Nebraska, West Virginia, and Kentucky are his top four, and South Florida, Mississippi State, Iowa State, Rutgers, Purdue, and Wake Forest are some of his other offers.  


3.  Jaleel Hytchye, LaSalle HS (Cincinnati, OH) CB-  Even for a cover corner, he needs to add strength as he looks even lighter than his listed 5'11" and 170 pounds.  He has topnotch speed however, and is a slick cover corner with long arms.  He reminds me of a faster K'Waun Williams, which is a nice thing to be.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Panthers get a commitment form him this weekend or not long after, but Northwestern is also in the mix and he's scheduled to visit there in January.  Other offers have come from Arizona State, Cincinnati, Kentucky, Louisville, Boston College, Purdue, and Penn State.

4.  Justin Moody, George Washington HS (Philadelphia) DT-  He had some nice showings this summer at individual camps which resulted in some recruiting services overrating him somewhat.  The result of that is now he may actually be a little underrated now.

At 6'3" and 270 pounds, he will project to the inside where he can use his good quickness and tenacity.  He is a little raw and needs to get a little stronger, but he could turn out to be a good player down the road.  Pretty much the same level of Panthers freshman Darryl Render, who saw some playing time this season.  As an added bonus, if he does decide to sign with Pitt, it will be good publicity as he has been selected to play in the Semper Fidelis All-American Bowl on January 4th.

Besides Pitt, Syracuse is also expected to get a visit, and Rutgers, Temple, Purdue, and Central Florida have offered.


5.  Blake McClain, Winter Park HS (Winter Park, FL) CB- Currently a Kentucky commit, but he's been looking around.  To show you how much talent there is in Florida, he's considered borderline top 100 in the state and he still has offers from Pitt, Kentucky, West Virginia, Rutgers, Cincinnati, South Florida, Arizona, Illinois, Indiana, Boston College, Wake Forest, and more.

He's 5'11" and 180, and he has good speed.  Basically he has good everything, but he doesn't stand out as excellent at any one facet.  But he plays tough against the run and he's a good athlete.  The type who could be develop and be a good starter in the defensive backfield down the road.


6.  Alex Officer, Eastside HS (Rochester, NY) C/OG- Alex was offered by the previous staff and after a few months of looking elsewhere, the current staff came back to the lineman.  He's not the size that this Pitt staff likes, believe it or not, though he's 6'4" and 315 pounds.  At Wisconsin, the linemen were at least 6'5" and even their centers have been known to go to 6'6".  He's a little thick around the middle, his competition was weak, and he's raw.

But on the plus side, he's got very good feet, he's has good strength already, and he plays with a bit of a mean streak.  Bottom line, he's a good development prospect that at the very least will add good depth down the road.

Louisville is his co-favorite and he also has offers from Boston College, UConn, Syracuse, Rutgers, Old Dominion, Western Kentucky, UMass, and Buffalo. He also recently visited Penn State but left without an offer.










92 comments:

  1. Thank you. A few of these guys would be great. Clement is gone, and because of recent developments I almost glad he went to Wisc. Hope he stays there notre dame is the runner up.

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  2. Oklahoma visited Jones-Smith yesterday.

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  3. It looks like the Zoo better get to work on Saturday!

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  4. Bowling Green PantherDecember 6, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    How can you go wrong with an offensive lineman nicknamed "Burger"?

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  5. Great post Doke. I think Hytchye is the most likely to commit out of this group, which is a great, because his stock is rising. He was about to commit earlier this year until he got a few late offers and wanted to check them out. I'd put the rest in this order: Officer, Jones-Smith, Moody, Kemp, then McClain. The Florida boys are going to be hard to flip but you never know in recruiting. Kemp liked WVU then I think he saw they have 3 RBs committed in this class so it could be wide open for him until USF hires a new coach. What do you think about the JUCO DTs we are after? I saw Cajuste committed to the train wreck that is Illinois but Pitt is still in play with 3 or 4. I'd also like to see some of the Michigan Cass Tech crew at Pitt, specifically Gibbs since he is visiting Pitt in January and also is a DT which is needed. Also, what do you think of Jester Weah WR from Wisconsin? He has visited a couple times but no offer 6'3" 197 lbs played at good program only offers are Colorado State and MAC schools.

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    1. Espn guys had Jester Weah favorite as Colorado State. WVU has actually 5 RB's. I think we have a legitimate shot at Kemp.

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    2. The jucos and Weah are backup plans. I could definitely see Gibbs sign with Pitt.

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    3. I guess this is where coach Inoeke earns his pay with the JUCO linemen. We could definitely use 1 or 2 for next year. Would you rather take a JUCO lineman or possibly take a HS kid like Nick Jacobsen from WI? Pitt is his only D-1A offer or even poach someone like Haddock from Montour, a Temple commit. I did see a twitter rumor that Pitt expects Jones-Smith to commit over the weekend. I can see him being a player after a couple years in the program with his size and athleticism.

      Kemp would be a nice get. Next year Shell and Bennett figure to be 1-2, but would be nice to add another RB as Crockett seems to have fumble issues and Corey Davis is more of a scat-back. I think Davis could get some PT next year as a change of pace back since Graham will be gone.

      Doke, how do you feel about Center next year? You think Rowell will be the starter or may they try to move a guard over there such as Schleiper or Gabe Roberts? Roberts was traveling with team and running 2nd string as true freshman prior to surgery and getting a redshirt. He appears to be a nice find by the staff.

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  6. Hey Chris,

    Any way we could petition the NCAA for another year for Shayne Hale? He is finally coming into his own after all the coaching changes. Thought he played really well on Saturday. Would love to see him become the player he was projected to be as first team USA Today out of HS. I think he only played in one game last year and 2 year before.

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  7. Got another name for you, Nigel Harris OLB from florida universally a 3 star recruit. Huxtable just visited him and he's making his visit on Jan, 11th. Starting to really look at some florida kids.

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    1. I know all about him but I'm focusing on this weekend's visitors first. I will have more about Harris later.

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    2. Should never have doubted, great work Chris keep it up.

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  8. Chris, since wisky is not willing to pay top dollar for assistant coaches, the main reason for bielma's exit, how does pitt compare in paying their staff? Does chryst have the support to pay for them to stay?

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  9. DOke

    I am really digging this Florida thing it seems the coaching staff is starting. If i was Coach Chryst i would ask the administration for enough money to keep a full time recruiter in Florida. I am convinced that even the two star bottem feeders in Florida, Georgia, Texas and other southern states are better than the four star kids up north.

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    1. You're preaching to the choir. Some of Pitt's best players of the last 20 years were Florida kids who were considered not good enough to play for the big three down there.

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  10. With all these "non-committed" players coming this weekend... it quite clear Chryst is trying to get to 25 recruiting class... and clearly sending a message to some players that they will be shown the door...
    By my count, in order to get to 25 available... 6 will be booted.
    Now, I wouldn't necessarily count the walkons being the first scholarship to cut... I think Chryst values those who put the work in and are showing improvement...

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    1. There will be some kids enrolling early which they will use against last year's class.

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  11. Ok... now for thier track profiles...
    Couldn't find any except Hytchye of Ohio..
    I was surprised the 2 FL kids didn't run track..
    Hytchye has "decent" speed.
    http://oh.milesplit.com/athletes/1310439-jaleel-hytchye/stats

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    1. He has been on a few state championship relay teams and has run an 11.23 in the 100m. He has more than just decent speed for goodness sake.

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    2. He is not consistent sub 11:00 which is "great" speed... or Trent Coles speed...
      I'm just glad he ran track for a skill position football player.
      ok... good speed... I don't have categories.
      Clearly not slow, slow, slow.

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  12. I am not a track guru but didnt Baldwin run sub 11's???

    I wish Foster would have run track. Would love to know what he would run!!!

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    1. He's run track in the past. I think 10.7 was his best in the 100m. Shai McKenzie has run a 10.83 at 200 pounds.

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    2. You asked.... and you shall recieve.
      Track profiles of Baldwin, Foster, and McKenzie.
      and yes, Baldwin had several sub 11:00 times.
      Foster ran track in 9&10th grade..
      I think Foster ran a sub 11:00 but that was hand time and you have to add .25sec to hand time to compare to electronic times. Foster PR is 11:19 on his profile as a 10th grader he would have hit sub 11 as junior. I believe the profile is all electronic times... but I don't know all wpial races are electronic. McKenzie 10th grade speed is impressive.

      http://pa.milesplit.com/athletes/1497806-robert-foster
      http://pa.milesplit.com/athletes/2696479-shai-mckenzie
      http://pa.milesplit.com/athletes/99410-jonathan-baldwin

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    3. Yeah his sophomore year he ran track.

      Hoping Joe D remembered what Baldwin ran but I could be thinking of Tommy Campbell too. He had and still has blazing speed!!!

      I do agree with Joe D about track speed!! I get it though that its not the only measurement to use!! Lots of fast kids have not panned out!!

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    4. Baldwin ran a 10.8.

      And Central Valley's track coach said of Foster when he was a sophomore that he thinks he can run a 10.4 if he applied himself. Of course he's probably running track just for fun, but I still would be surprised if he didn't run under 11.0 consistently this year.

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    5. plus defenders chasing him in a game you're going to run faster than that

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  13. Joe D I don't care what anybody says, you are the man!!!

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  14. 10.7 - 10.6 in high school is where the true breakaway speed begins. Consistent times under 11 are a good indicator.

    For comparison purposes, Brian Davis out of Washington ran 10.6 without putting in the work. Of course he also long jumped 23 feet too.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Only a handful of prospects in the entire country have that kind of speed.

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    2. "True breakaway" speed isn't seen often.

      That's why I couldn't believe so many were so quick to compare Rushell Shell to Dorsett who was one of the greats who had that kind of speed.

      It was obvious seeing him in high school that Shell was not in that class. Rather the potential to be a solid power back capable of making athletic plays.

      But what made Dorsett special was his ability to cut without losing speed. This is even more rare.

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  15. if Foster has an issue (with speed) - it could be with his acceleration - not with his top end

    he ran a disappointing 4.82 40 at Pittsburgh combine in 2010; his short shuttle time was also less than impressive

    Foster attended the US Army combine (2012 - early this year ?); many raved over his ability and performances - but his 40 times
    were not revealed; often the 40 times will be revealed for the top skilled players when they are noteworthy




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    1. He has no issue with speed. Quit listening to Joe D. He still has him going to Michigan.

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    2. I agree with Doke! I went to every CV game this year. I seen him catch Wheeler from behind a few times in the CV/West Mifflin game. Once he gets going and by no means does that very long he is gone. Seems to me he runs with high knees. This could be why it seems like he isnt running fast at first but trust me he is moving, but once he cuts up field, not too many in high school are catching him.

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    3. Foster is fast...
      when he did that combine... he didn't prepare for it..
      went in cold and thought he could light it up like he does in the wpial...
      but, Foster is fast... and very quick..

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  16. I believe the best 100 time for a current WPIAL football player belongs to Forrest Barnes (Seneca Valley) - 10.76 (4/25/2012)

    James Wheeler (West Mifflin) not too far behind




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  17. Steelers Oline coach... Kugler... to be named HC of UTEP...
    Surprising...

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  18. UTEP a special place for Kugler - he played and coached (assistant) at UTEP

    with the recent coach change at Purdue - the Purdue offensive coordinator (Nord) likely will be available; he is also a former UTEP coach (and close relationship with Kugler)

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  19. If Doke was running a blog about Pitt's TRACK team's recruiting? then all this 100m times would be meaningful.

    Yes I get it, speed never has an off day. But it's not the biggest indicator of success. How oftem, really, is a guy gonna run 100m in a game (unless he's on kickoff coverage)?

    Here's what matters more: how does he accelerate thru turns (NOT the same thing)? which indicates how good he is at getting open 30 yards down the field, not 100. Who fast does he run IN PADS? Someone mentioned above, how good are his afterburners when he's being chased? How tough is he, yards after contact? How well does he re-acclerate after being hit by a LB or DB?

    And most importantly, how good are his hands? Does he hang onto the ball? How well does he corral BAD balls? Does no good to be a speed merchant, even one that corners like a Ferrari, if he can't snag it once he gets there...

    This is why not all track stars make good football players.

    I was tempted to add, if he was recruited in the past 3 years, it would also be VERY helpful if he has a spare set of hands on his ankles in order to catch Tino the Magi's scatter-arm errant throws ... but hopefully that special attribute won't be necessary much longer.

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    1. I agree... speed is only 1 component of what makes a football player in a skill position... many things to consider...
      however, i'd rather have "skilled" players that have speed over those that don't...

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    2. Doke-Ive seen some special players in my day by going to many Quip games. Also seen many of the other players that have been very good in the Wpial in my day. Foster is probably(I say probably since I didnt actually time these guys) the fastest I have ever seen on the field! Revis, Baldwin, Shell, Gilbert(Gilbert ran 4.5 40 as a high school linebacker), and many other players.

      I beleive Tommy Campell may have been as fast or faster but honestly I do not remember seeing him in high school. Also like somebody else said in this converstation I am not sure how he compares with the pads on. Tommy had world class speed on track and that is without any technique!!!

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    3. Here are some additonal things far more important in football than running 100m in a straight line wearing shorts:

      How fast does he run in the rain or snow? How 'bout on grass wearing 1-inch long slop cleats?

      And as any fan learns quickly by following a Mike Shanahan team -- the NFL coach, not the college WR -- how well does he BLOCK? WRs who can crack-back block downfield are worth their weight in gold, they make the whole offense go.

      So in summary, given a choice between a track-star glass-brittle debutant vs. a fast-enough guy with good hands who hangs onto the ball, runs crisp routes and can block, I'll take the latter. Even if that means marching down the field in 20-yard chunks instead of 99-yard homeruns.

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    4. I still remember when Wanny first got here to coach he looked at the stiffs on the team and said Pitt needed more speed. And when asked how they managed to beat the hoopies 13-9 he said "We ran faster."

      Speed is what separates the SEC from other conferences.....speed kills....you can't have too much of it.

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    5. can Pitt have both? I think so with Chryst in mind...Speed in mind is what I'm saying...

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    6. Imma,

      I agree completely with your last 2 posts. This seemed to be turning into a Pitt track blog instead of a football blog.

      Obviously speed is an important element. However, focusing on 100m times in football seems to be missing the point. I want guys who are great athletes, but who are first and foremost football players.

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    7. Speed is important.

      But it isn't the most important thing.

      You need to be well rounded, speed, strength, explosive power, stamina, toughness, all are important. If one is lacked sufficiently D1 might not be for them.

      I'm no expert at football, but I know a thing or two about strength and conditioning, and for a sport like football its all about building well rounded athletes. If you can push one attribute higher, thats great, but you don't spend too much time on one to the detriment of others.

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    8. Speed is important.

      But it isn't the most important thing.

      You need to be well rounded, speed, strength, explosive power, stamina, toughness, all are important. If one is lacked sufficiently D1 might not be for them.

      I'm no expert at football, but I know a thing or two about strength and conditioning, and for a sport like football its all about building well rounded athletes. If you can push one attribute higher, thats great, but you don't spend too much time on one to the detriment of others.

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  20. For running backs, it's vision, patience, acceleration and speed in that order. For receivers it is route running,quickness, ability to separate, hands and speed.

    Speed and quickness is more preferable for defensive players imo.

    It would be great if Pitt could land 1 or 2 this weekend and hopefully with a foster commit on the 21st, Pitt gets a class in the top 30. Who could complain about that when the reality of the team ranking is hovering around 70th right now. A final recruiting ranking at 40 or better is a great win. PC is lso working on a nice class for next year. Gotta like his success so far with recruiting. Keep up the momentum!

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    1. Very informative post...Wait, Chryst can't recruit?

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  21. Did Kenton Gibbs visit this weekend as well?

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  22. Boyd cancelled trip to WVU today and Arizona next week, he's announcing on the Jan. 4th, with no more visits scheduled. Sounds like Pitt is it!!

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    1. I thought I'd read he was going to visit Penn State?

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    2. went to Pitt hoops game last night, state championship next week, and then I think its the dead period.

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  23. Love how everybody is an expert in what it takes to be a running back, wide receiver etc. if talking speed is what we want to chat about then so what?? Doke, Joe D and I already know we want athletes but we want athletes with speed!!! If we can get them. If there are two gifted athletes give me the faster one!! Relax people you all are not experts here!!! Neither am I or course!!!

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    1. It's a no-brainer that speed is important, and that athletes with speed are the most desireable. Talking about 100m times seems more suited to track recruits rather than football recruits.

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    2. Dan you act like Joe D is the only person in the country talking about 40's and 100 times!!! Every college recruiter in the nation checks his stop watch to time these kids!!

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    3. I'm not against discussing speed, because it is a vital asset. However, when I hear experts talk about football players and their speed, the time I hear about is their time in the 40, not the 100.

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  24. Hope all you on this blog who said chryst can't recruit feel like idiots. Chryst took a long-shot commitment and turned it into a very likely commit. And if he gets Hytche, Kemp, Officer, Jones, Gibbs or Moody, & Foster, this class could be Top 25 perhaps. Cheers

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    1. Need I remind you... 8 of 19 current commits are 2star..

      Someone gave Chryst and crew a kick in the a$$ this summer after Dorian Johnson committed to PSU... they said, get more agressive or....
      and you can see a difference of how they are recruiting those in Pitts backyard since the summer.
      They figured out... Just Offer... doesn't work.

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    2. Or perhaps he needed time to establish himself? Do you see how much ground he has gained in 2014 is going so far?

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  25. Just read that Stockett from McKeesport got jobbed by Akron. Might Pitt be interested in him on the defensive side of the ball?

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    1. Since when did Pitt become the dumping ground for Akron rejects??
      Arizona pulled the ship from some Gateway kid also.
      Stuff happens all the time... albeit Terry Smith is up in arms... Gateway players tend to be overrated... Smith does a great job marketing his players.

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  26. Joe, you remain a nimrod. Deal with reality. The current pitt football team is not ranked in the top 25 or 50 and is right about 70th in a 124 team league. However, their recruiting is ranked anywhere between 35th and 50th. That, in itself is good. They do currently have some two stars, but name me a program that finished 6-6 and had the coaching carousel we have had, that doesn't have some 2 stars. I would expect a touche' from you in response.

    If Paul Chryst can sign a few more players and can get the recruiting class in the top 30, that would be a minor miracle, again, given the current status of the team in comparison to all teams W-L in D1. Give him credit. Don't make excuses Joe like someone sat him down and lit a match. The fire has always been there and it was evident outwardly early in the season. He will win often here and if we don't sign him longer term, we seriously risk losing if he has an 8-4 and 9-3 season back to back.

    @Quip - if you don't know who you are dealing with in terms of experts, you shouldn't run your trap. just sayin braugh....

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  27. Huff-my point is we all know those things that you mentioned in your post a few days ago. We all understand that. The point is with some of those things we would like them to be the fastest with all those things equal!! No need to get nasty!

    I guess I don't get why it offends people to talk speed on here? I don't get it!!!

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    1. quipscript...
      because wpial players lack speed...
      slow, slow, slow...
      there are a few (ie. Foster, etc)... but they are few and far between. As you know, Quips always have speed... it's part of practice, conditioning, etc... its' a pre-requisite to run track at quip if you want to be a "skill" player... ie. cb, wr, rb..

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  28. Paul Chryst has done a fairly good job visiting area high school players and attending high school games on Friday evenings

    more than any recent Pitt head coach I can recall (based on games I attended and watched on TV)

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  29. huff,

    I agree with you to a point regarding recruiting - (70th ranked and right now around 35th recruiting) - I get that.

    Ok, that's good but if you look closely, that really does not give much of an indication of Chryst as a recruiter.

    And, here's what might be missing - the ONLY reason DJ is going to Pitt and Foster and Boyd are considering us is because they're local.

    If they were even in nearby states, Pitt's chances would be nil.

    Because? With all of the sanctions etc etc to Penn St. - Johnson STILL committed to them and I would venture a guess that if they didn't have any sanctions, no way he reconsiders and goes to Pitt.

    Also,if Chryst was just an above average recruiter, he would have Foster and Boyd now!

    And yes, it looks like they will commit to Pitt but, imo, it's not from Chryst's closing skills.

    Chapman - a 4 star - very nice get but Clement already de-committed - just sayin' - if Chryst was the good recruiter that you believe he is...ya get a guy like Clement - need to keep him.

    Let's get Foster and Boyd - have a great year in 2013 which I certainly think we can if we are fortunate enough to get those two and THEN, let's see if Chryst and co. can have a top say 20 recruiting class without the Fosters, Boyds and Johnsons who should have been givens all along.

    If he can, then I'll completely agree with you and, I hope to God that I can.



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    1. Chryst and his staff weren't great at the beginning but I think they are clearly getting it now. I've been very impressed over the last month or so.

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    2. I guess the "just offer" wasn't working for them.. lol

      But yes... much better since the VTech game...
      some forget... there were several recruits.. ie. Orndoff, Challingsworth that didn't even know they had an offer!!!
      But, they have gotten better in recruiting... more agressive, etc...

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  30. Great recruiting takes time as relationships need to be forged. PC did not have those relationships in place when he was hired, so he was a bit late to the dance. That is why I am happy to see where we are now, versus where we could be.

    Recruiting is a multi-year process so we need to give him time. I personally believe it will come.

    With regards to speed, I do think it is important, just not the end all. Shanahan is quite effective at this level. If he has a chance at the next level, it will be as an H_back/TE. Gain 20 pounds of muscle, maintain or slightly improve his speed; commit to blocking and he may indeed have a future. Trying not to be nasty. There just needs to be balance. A bunch of speed with noone that can run a proper route, or make a tackle is not great. Dorin Dickerson had speed, just not a position. A super athlete trapped in a sport that requires more than just speed.

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  31. Don't forget, there are at least 3 coaches on staff that are first year college coaches (Engram, Bollinger, Haering), 2 really young (House, Breckterfield) and two who haven't recruited in a while (Robinson, Hueber). Only 2 were coaching big-time football last year (Rudolph, Huxtable). This could also be a reason they started slow and have picked it up as well.

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  32. Stockett (McKeesport) was dropped by Akron

    after Woodson (Gateway) was dropped by Arizona

    Woodson now going to Akron

    Woodson showed potential

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  33. Shanahan does not appear to have the quickness and speed to be a WR at the next level

    but does have good size - and good speed for his size

    better suited at TE

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  34. Only one recruit so far is universally known as a 2 star recruit. I did like a cheap Bayesian formula consisting of the 4 major recruiting sites. Only Carson Baker is a 2 star recruit. The rest is 2.5 stars and above according to ESPN, Rivals, Scout, and 247sports.

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  35. How is it possible that Vanderbilt and Ped State are way ahead of Pitt in recruiting. In fact, Pitt isn't ranked in the Top 40 at all.
    http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/classrankings

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    1. For what it's worth, Scout.com had Pitt ranked at 38th and PSU in the 40s. But that was before the nits landed that 4-star linebacker from Central Dauphin over the weekend (who wudda looked GREAT in a Pitt uniform, BTW), so dunno about today

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    2. ESPN sucks....Scout.com has Pitt at #38 And Rivals at #40. If Foster and Boyd commit they will move up to top 25.

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  36. the ratings for these players are based on what happened prior to their senior years. There has been a handful of Pitt's 2 star commits that seems to have had pretty impressive senior years .... Connor, Challingworth, Galambos, Green, etc. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of them upgraded

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    1. It's absurd that anybody has those players as 2 stars. Anybody who does have them as 2 stars, I suggest people stop reading them because they clearly are fools.

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    2. Pantherlair (Rivals) has Galambos and Green as 2 stars; Pantherdigest (SCout) has Connor and Challingsworth as 2 stars

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    3. Yeh but ESPN and 247sports has Connor,Challingsworth, Galambos, and Green as 3 stars. So its all who you follow I believe an aggregate is best. Rivals so far has underrated Pitt's class the most.

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    4. Rivals always underrates Pitt and PA players. Has for years...

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  37. If you haven't seen it... a revealing interview giving insight into the character and maturity of Tra'von Chapman.

    Also gives insight to Chryst and his staff and their approach to recruiting.

    http://triblive.com/sports/college/pitt/3089109-85/chapman-roosevelt-pitt#axzz2EeaKScua

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  38. Article in pantherlair about Chryst recruiting tactics...
    he repeated most of what he said at the initial pressor...
    - give them information for players to make a decision.
    if you recall... he said that at the 1st pressor along with... "just offer"... it's not that difficult.

    However, I don't believe he is doing just that as clearly Chryst is rolling out the red carpet for some recruits. He clearly knows what he stated in the interview is not going to work for top rated players or highly sought after players.

    http://pittsburgh.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1447321

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    1. I think there's a difference between pressuring kids and "rolling out the red carpet". Obviously, you want to put your best face forward and give kids a positive impression of Pitt.

      I think Chryst is staying true to who he is, and convincing kids by his sincerity. I believe this approach will serve him well in the long run.

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  40. So, is the Clement verbal to Wisky sound? Given this http://notredame.scout.com/2/1247837.html, it would seem ND is out. Why did Clement jump the Pitt ship in the first place, given Chryst's well-deserved reputation for making his running backs shine quite brightly?

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  41. One area where Wanny excelled with recruiting was going after 2-3 stars who blew up and became 3-4 stars. Evaluating talent is key to the process and if you go back to who PC is, he is a football coach. He knows and recognizes what he wants. For that reason, I agree that some of the recruits will see a bump in their status which should help in overall star rankings.

    That said, star rankings are not indicative of future success necessarily. Helps, but no guarantee.

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  42. Can someone explain why Clement can't be back in play given the coaching change at Wisky? He would have the chance to play in a similar offense here with Chryst. Is he that solid even not knowing who will be the next coach?

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    1. According to Chris, Clement's idol is Montee Ball - go figure.

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