Thursday, January 17, 2013

Some random thoughts

I'm working on a story about the top 2014 kids who will be at Pitt's Junior Day in two weeks.  I'll have a bio on each.  It's impossible to know who they all are because Pitt doesn't officially release that info, but I will update it during that weekend.  That will be out in two weeks.  And by the way, the list is very impressive. The Pitt staff was behind in recruiting year and played catch up, but that's not the case this year. Serious contact is made halfway through a kid's junior season and Pitt didn't have that chance last year.  But this year they are on the ball.

While I expect Chandler Kincade to stay committed to Pitt, the Panthers are wisely recruiting other quarterbacks just in case.  One, A.J. Long, who played in eastern PA before moving to Tennessee, will be at Pitt's Junior Day. Another is Joey Duckworth from Ohio.  I'll have more info on these guys in the future.

The Panthers still look for an occasional prospect in the midwest, beyond Ohio.  In fact, they are interested in Minnesota cornerback Tim Gordon, who may get a Junior Day invite, as well as various players in Wisconsin and Michigan again.

It remains to be seen just how good the top end of the 2014 WPIAL class will be, but there are at least a dozen really good prospects.  The good news is, I see Pitt making a killing this year.  In fact, I think the Panthers are in strong with at least Brock Boxen, Jaleel Fields, Dravon Henry, Toy Apke, Alex Bookser, Mike Grimm, Chandler Kincade, Shai McKenzie, Elijah Zeise, and Chase Winovich.  In fact, I will be surprised if Fields, Henry, Boxen, Apke, Kincade, Zeise, and Winovich don't become Panthers.

If the Panthers can land Grimm and Bookser, the future Pitt offensive line will be just plain scary.  The bookend tackles will join Dorian Johnson, Adam Bisnowaty, Gabe Roberts, Aaron Reese, Jaryd Jones-Smith, and Alex Officer to give Pitt an offensive line that at least potentially can be fantastic.

I tweeted today about a report that revealed that at the Under Armour Game practices, Robert Foster's family were all wearing Pitt jerseys.  All it means probably is that the family are big Pitt fans, but it may be something to look for.  I'm always a believer that a kid is committed to somebody until he's not, and I don't want to give anybody false hope, but from what I'm hearing Alabama is worried that Pitt is still recruiting him.

Who will be the defensive coordinator? I don't know and no other media member knows.  There are websites devoted to these things with very connected people, and they know nothing either.  Chryst may have his eye on a coach who is still coaching, and will wait to interview him. The only person who jumps out at me is San Francisco secondary coach Greg Jackson.  I would consider that a good hire, but not a slam dunk hire, and to be honest, I would consider that a step down for Jackson.  And that's no offense to Pitt, but you can go further in your career with the 49ers over most college jobs, unless it's a head coach job.  Other than that, I have no idea.  My personal choice would be Randy Shannon, who is currently a linebackers coach at Arkansas.  He wants a DC job and recently interviewed at East Carolina.  He would create huge buzz in the coaching ranks and would recruit like crazy in Florida.

I haven't been writing much about the Pitt basketball team because I've been too busy after the games, but clearly there are some problems.  I defend Steven Adams a lot because the truth is, he helps the team in ways that don't show up in the box score, but there's no reason why he's rebounding just 4.2 rpg a game in his 5 Big East games.  James Robinson is also struggling, making just 29% of his shots from the field in Big East play.  These are two big time recruits who many thought would make a huge impact right away.  The fact that they aren't makes one wonder about the job that Jamie Dixon and his staff is doing.

I don't think Dixon will go to USC, but it's naive to think that one of these times he won't actually leave.  Coaches don't last a long time in one place anymore and Dixon has some of the longest tenure at any school in the country, believe it or not.  I don't think there's any doubt that he has struggled with the program the last two seasons, but he's too good of a coach to ever go into a tailspin.  For that reason, I find it highly unlikely that Pitt would ever fire him, unless he missed the NCAA tournament for at least three years in a row.  But if he misses this year, that will be two, so things will start to get iffy.  Especially if a new president and athletic director come in.

What's disheartening about Dixon's mini-demise is that he actually has highly coveted recruits on this team.  Any team with Adams, Robinson, J.J. Moore, Talib Zanna, and Lamar Patterson should be better than they have performed over the last few weeks.  Throw in a lot of dead weight that transferred and there are clearly cracks in Dixon's facade.

I was never a big fan of Tray Woodall and now it's apparent why.  His inability to be a senior that can be leaned on is obviously a major factor in the team's problems.

With transfers, Pitt will have to add two new players.  A big man will be one, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a juco. The other scholarship could go to Jamel Artis who is more like an old school Pitt player.  A 6'7" SF, he can really handle and pass well, but, surprise!!, he isn't a big offensive threat.  The two signed players, Michael Young and Josh Newkirk, are very good prospects.  Young is a 6'8" combo forward who can rebound like hell when he wants, but can also go outside and stroke the three. He definitely has a little bit of Sam Young to his game, and hopefully he will be just as good because the program clearly needs a star.  Newkirk is a 6'2" combo guard who will mostly play at the two because of Robinson.  He can jump out of the gym and his offensive game has really improved over the  last year.  The staff was legitimately surprised that they got him because they thought both Duke and North Carolina would want him.

I'll go into detail in the future about what I think is going on with the Pitt basketball program but the truth is, it takes awhile to watch them because it's so complex. I don't want to just say they need to rebound better or shoot better because that's obvious.  The real question is, why don't they rebound or shoot better?




220 comments:


  1. Wow... no real disagreement with anything you wrote.

    Before anyone knocks the possibility of Greg Jackson, I would suggest checking out his background and an interview or two.

    He's got charisma and a big picture perspective. Seems likeable. Of course, he and Chryst also spent time together at Wisconsin.

    Randy Shannon would make an impact. But reportedly he's the frontrunner for DC at ECU.

    And did you actually say "this year they (Chryst & Co.) are on the ball?"

    Wow again.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Update, Randy Shannon turned down ECU.
      So, he is available and a no brainer in my opinion.

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    2. Looks to me like Shannon is settling in at Arkansas.

      But as we well know, stranger things have happened.

      PittofDreams

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  2. PK,
    Jerry DiPaola confirm to me that there are 23 scholarships as of today. He confirmed, 3 current players will have scholarship pulled either by transfer, etc. He also stated it will get real interesting if they go above the current 25.

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    1. PK,
      Chris Peak just confirmed there will be more "attrition" to free up scholarships for incoming class.
      How, who, what is unknown per me.

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    2. You need Peak to tell you what everybody knew already?

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    3. PK believes Pitt, as of today, has 28 scholarships available for incoming class.
      He won't believe me with the info I provided, so I quoted Peak and DiPaola.
      I know they only have 23 scholarships available as of today. If 28 is in the 2013 class plus Savage. That means 6 current players will transfer, etc. by summer.

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    4. i said pitt has 28/29 scholarships available.. which has been said and you just reaffirmed. even if the kids are still on the team but the staff knows they are leaving, that means those scholarships are still available

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  3. I'll say this - I always expect big things for/from the football team only to be disappointed like every other fan. And each year we continue to find excuses to buy into the new hype or hope that things are turning around. But for some reason, I'm thinking the optimism this time around might be a little more legit. We'll have to wait and see after another recruiting year where this thing is heading but the potential is there. We just need to reach out and sieze it and take off in the ACC. If we can put together a good OL, we should be good to go. We need some young leaders on this team to create some buzz and hype and get some young recruits attention that we are going to do big things at Pitt.

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  4. One other reason Jaime Dixon will not be going anywhere is that as long as Steven Adams is at Pitt, Jaime will remain. This assumes Pitt's administration does not do something stupid such as firing him. Jaime gave his assurances to his contacts in New Zealand about developing Adams and will follow through on them.

    If Randy Shannon is really the frontrunner for DC at ECU and his other choice is Pitt, we really do not want him if he thinks the ECU job is better. That shows lack of intelligence.

    With regard to the DC position, Pitt's ability to keep anything from leaking out has really been impressive. There are not many organizations of any type that can be so secretive.

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  5. I posted earlier regarding Foster, during my trip to Birmingham for the bowl game I met a lot of football junkies who really are into SEC recruiting and the consensus was Foster might flip back to Pitt.

    I’m sure a lot of people that discussed this with me probably still live with their mother in her basement but it makes you wonder because a lot of little things just point to him flipping back but with kids you never know until the signature is on the paper.

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    1. I'd say that's partly a product of how people are down here. They're pretty nice. And pretty good at making you feel good about what you want to feel good about. Not saying you were getting stroked Wlat..but I'm not saying you weren't. Anyway I hope they were right. Adding Foster to this class would be pretty great.

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  6. Chris, excellent post. But I do disagree with you on the Jackson thing being a step down for him. Going from a non position coach to a DC position in a BCS school is a step up.

    Your right about one thing...nobody knows nothing.

    Good to hear were in good shape with some of the big local kids for next year.

    As far as Shannon goes, he already turned down ECU.

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  7. Regarding Pitt basketball...
    It's a coaching problem. The talent is there in my opinion.
    The players are "thinking" too much. I believe they are playing in fear of going to the bench if they don't do as Dixon says... pass, pass, pass. Then frantic shots with 5 sec on the shot clock.
    Last nights game was painful to watch with all the turnovers from both teams and both teams were shooting horribly.
    Regarding Woodall... he is a great story, but he is NOT a 2guard. He is a streaky shooter. He was 6th man on Hurley's St. Anthony's team in HS. I'd rather see Woodall and Robinson split time at the PG.

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  8. RE Hoops:

    Some interesting comments/stats from last night's game...

    1. Announcers were discussing the rebound of Minnesota & UCLA's programs, and sarcastically commented that Howland & Tubby Smith "remembered how to coach". They weren't making any connections to Pitt at this point, because Dixon has only had one off year, so far, but that should give reasonable minds some perspective. As for unreasonable minds, why bother?

    2. The second comment concerned a statistical comparison between Indiana and Pitt this year. You don't want to make too much of stats, because they can often be misleading and sliced & diced to fit a presupposition, but If I remember correctly, Pitt averaged something like 1.2 points per posession this year, versus 1.0 for Indiana. I'm not completely sure what this means, other than maybe the area where we need to improve the most is on the defensive end, and particularly rebounding.

    Also a question: Why, seemingly out of the blue, did Cam only play 1 minute? Was he sick, or injured?

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  9. Great article, as usual. Thanks, Mr. Dokish

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  10. Love the random thoughts format, Chris. Good stuff.

    I find your comments to be fair and objective 95%+ of the time. The fact you you are speaking in glowing terms about the current state of recruiting by the Chryst regime is very encouraging. Glad that I never even considered giving up my seats...

    "...from what I'm hearing Alabama is worried that Pitt is still recruiting him..." - I had to pinch myself after reading that. To be honest, its nice just to be perceived as a threat in the eyes of Alabama.


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  11. Are you aware of any prospects from south of the Mason-Dixon that will be attending?

    TX_Panther

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  12. I personaly thought Woodall was MUCH better than Robinson at the point last night, and further, think a backcourt of Woodall and Zeigler will be used more frequently.

    On the other hand, I really thought both Patterson and Moore would be two of the more consistent scorers this year .. shows you how much I know.

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  13. nevillestreetrulesJanuary 17, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    I was at the game last night and it was refreshing to see Pitt finally do what they should have been doing ALL ALONG: Let Adams and Ziegler (and Johnson) play through mistakes. And as well: get Adams the ball. These players have far more upside and potential to reach. Adams threw up some bricks, yes. Johnson won't always be 3-3 from 3. Zielger won't always have low turnovers. But given time, I believe the can consistently play at least as well as they did last night. I only wish Dixon played them all 25+ minutes during the non-con and pushed the ball non-stop to Adams on offense 2 months ago rather than for the first time last night...by giving Zieg and Johnson so few minutes until last night, he short changed their improvement, PRE-big east. Same with getting the ball to Adams. He should have been throwing up bricks two months ago so at this point maybe he'd be swishing more of them than he did last night! But its nice to see him take more than 5 shots.

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  14. Chris are any of the recruits in danger of not qualifying? I thought I remember reading a whil back James Conner was iffy? Any others?
    KRF

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  15. Chris - in regards to Foster. From talking to coaches at CV, there is virtually no chance Robert changes his mind. Of course, that is right now, but he seems very happy with his decision. In fact, Nick Saban and his main assistant flew up today to take Robert's mom out to lunch in Philly and then met up with Robert and some coaches at a country club here in Beaver County for dinner tonight. Bobby Engram continues to call Robert but from what I was told, he is getting kind of tired of the calls. Anything is possible, but I would be shocked as of now if Robert switched. Of course, he was going to Pitt on the morning of his announcement and then changed abruptly, so we'll see I guess.

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    1. Isn't that against NCAA rules? Get any of that on film? ;-)

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    2. How is that against the rules? Is it the quiet period?

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  16. In regards to hoops, James Robinson is starting to worry me at the point. I was impressed with him early, but now his lack of athleticism is starting to show more in the BE. He will not shoot when left open on the outside and that makes running an offense very difficult. Yes, he has had a great assist to turnover ratio, but I don't honestly see him setting up a lot of teammates. They love setting that high ball screen for him, but I have not seen him use it often to go to the hoop, draw defenders, and set up teammates with open shots. Typically I see him pass it as soon as he is past the screen, rarely using it to its max effectivness.

    I read comparisons saying he was a rich man's Levance Fields, but Fields was not scared of shooting and could put up the occasional 15-20 point game. I can't see Robinson scoring 20 at any point. He seems simply like a caretaker - almost like Trent Dilfer when he played QB for the Ravens Super Bowl team. He may not make many mistakes, but he certainly doesn't help you win games. I may be overreacting as I realize he is a freshman, but I am just not seeing it lately. You don't learn athleticism and shooting is also something that is usually not drastically changed.

    Adams has things that you can't teach and needs to work on his skill level, which certainly can (and hopefully will) improve. Robinson has some solid fundamentals but doesn't seem to be blessed with the more important skill of athleticism and explosiveness needed in today's game.

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    1. It's because Robinson didn't run track.. ;) lol
      But he probably needs to lose a few pounds and work on his speed, quickness and agility during offseason.
      He'll be fine... give him time... but he does need to speed up his game but that is why Dixon likes him. Dixon likes the 1/2 court offense.

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    2. Chill out, Robinson will be fine. He's a freshman.

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  17. I certainly hope PC has a specific target for DC because with all the recent coaching moves, there isn't much left.

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  18. Arians named HC at Arizona... lol
    curious as to rooney/steeler reaction. arizona is steeler west..
    Horton is pissed... so much for the rooney rule.

    The lance armstrong interview is riveting... wow

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    1. PG online linked to an AP story on Arians.
      Trib online had nothing.

      Goes to show how both PG and Trib are "controlled" in what story to print, etc. smh. Very sad media in Pittsburgh covering sports.
      I at least expected a Cook story or Bouchette.

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  19. Great stuff Chris.

    Glad to hear Coach Chryst and staff are getting a better handle on recruiting, especially with the WPIAL kids. It's also encouraging news about the OL recruits. Can't do a whole lot without the big boys up front, and if Pitt can get a solid, if not, excellent O line, the offense should really be something to see. (assuming we get better QB play).

    As far as Foster, while it'd be great if he changes his mind and comes to Pitt, I really couldn't care less right now. If he does go to Bama, I wish him well, but my sense is that Pitt is the long-term better choice.

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  20. The problem with the hoops team is they have no identity. You never what you'll get after tipoff.

    The juniors have been the biggest disappointment for me. Patterson and Zanna drive me crazy at times. The freshmen will be OK.

    I hope Dixon is at Pitt for a long time. The school needs one coach to be there 20-plus years.

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    1. I think Zanna has improved every year, every practice. In other words he's come a long way, and I don't see effort lacking. He's in a bit of a rut, but I see him progressing as the Big East schedule does, and especially as Adams does. Notice how I said "as" Adams does as opposed to "if" Adams does. Agree with hoping Dixon stays and evolves. (ACC game) Freshman fine like you said. Patterson is a mystery to me. It could be a number of things (I mean we've all seen flashes) maybe: injury, pressure of being scorer, offensive's overall early struggles, outside distraction, etc. Anyways, I'm prepared to give him some more time.

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    2. Patterson is patterson. He followed up his "coming out" against Marquette w/ an 0-5 against Nova. He's not athletic... and will be nothing more than a role player... ever.

      Watch Zanna closely. Big 4's just go AT him. I would play JJ Moore. At least he is a solid body who despite lack of height, won't get pushed around.

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  21. Josh Jones has decommitted from Illinois and is not visiting Michigan State. It's looking good for Pitt though NC State and Colorado may still get visits. Also, Jacquille Veii is no longer being recruited by Pitt.

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    1. Chris, why are we no longer recruiting Veii? Has he eliminated Pitt or has something scared us off of him?

      thanks,

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    2. Looked at J Jones' video today and liked what I saw. Looks fast, explosive. Good hitter as well. He was definitely playing against inferior competition but he was clearly more athletic than the rest. Would be a nice pickup.

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  22. I can't remember a time when so many recruits have decommitted.

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    1. I can't remember a time when sooooo many players committed by July before their senior year.
      It's a game these days.
      Players will committ early to secure a spot and not have the scholarship pulled due to the team meeting its quota for that position. It also has his competition (other players) crossing off that school off the list so to say.
      But the player keeps looking. If a better offer comes so be it. If there is a coaching change he is in a better position to go to a new college.
      It's a bit ridiculous with all the drama these days.

      I like what Vandy did with a recruit. Some WR out of Florida. He committed to Vandy. He then said he would take other visits, etc. Vandy called him on it and the player confirmed he was taking other visits. Vandy pulled the offer!!!
      More schools need to take the Vandy approach, however, there are schools that pull offers even after the player committed. Chryst has done it last year and this year.

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    2. I have absolutely no problem with a kid committing just to secure a spot. Players get screwed over all the time by coaches leaving for other schools, getting their scholarship offer pulled, etc. etc. Kids need to game the system every way they can.

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  23. Chas,
    You are aware that the Bookser kid's first name is Alex... aren't you?

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    1. I wrote his name a million times as Alex, but I was thinking of him and Mike Grimm together at the time I wrote that. That's what editors are for, of which I have none.

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    2. Actually, you have about a hundred - haha!

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  24. A random Pitt basketball revelation...

    According to an article appearing in this morning's Post Gazette, Jamie Dixon has finally figured out what's been wrong with the team... REBOUNDING, or lack thereof.

    "I wish we had it figured out from day one," Dixon said. "It's a process. We're finding ourselves. I wish it was figured out in September and October. But that's why we play and practice. I hope this is something we can build off of."

    The problem is that the article correctly points out the problem is due to Pitt lacking a "dominant" low-post rebounder.

    The bad news is the team's rebounding against Villanova was not lead by anyone named Adams, Zanna or Taylor.

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    Not only did the Panthers come away with a plus-12 margin on the boards, but the Wildcats, also the top offensive rebounding team in the league, were limited to one offensive rebound and zero second-chance points.

    Dixon spent most of his preparation time in practice preaching about the importance of controlling the boards, and his message finally got through to his players.

    ********
    Who said Dixon is not an elite coach?

    PittofDreams

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    1. Read the articles.
      Let me see, rebounding and playing defense will get you playing time.
      But if you don't shoot, take bad shots, not aggressive on offensive, miss shots going 1 for 8, make under 70% of foul shots, turn the ball over.
      You get lots of playing time? ok... i get it. smh

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  25. In my opinion, Dixon’s comments regarding his recent revelation about rebounding is pretty astounding.

    You’re telling me that it takes until mid January to figure out you got three stiffs playing under the basket?

    I would think there are plenty of coaches who would figured out before the season ever started that what I’m seeing is simply not going to be good enough.

    The fact that Jamie admits that it took him this long is astounding.

    And in my opinion the fact that he is just now installing a strategy to cover for the team’s shortcomings undernearth the basket speaks to less than stellar coaching.

    Now there are those quick to defend Dixon by saying the remedy is simply better players. This is true.

    But, it lends little support to the long held urban legend of Jamie being special in his ability to take average or even below average players and turn them into world beaters.

    It wasn’t true then. It’s certainly not true now.

    PittofDreams

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    1. It sounds like Dixon needs to hire you.

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    2. lol adams and zanna are stiffs? adams lacks aggressiveness at times but even when he isnt aggressive he changes the game. When he is, he puts up the stats as well.

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    1. He is still in San Francisco.

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    2. Still coaching in the NFL...

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  27. "I think the Panthers are in strong with at least Brock Boxen, Jaleel Fields, Dravon Henry, Toy Apke, Alex Bookser, Mike Grimm, Chandler Kincade, Shai McKenzie, Elijah Zeise, and Chase Winovich"

    Why isn't Joe D. complaining about Pitt becoming the WPIAL All-Star team again...

    Slow, Slow, Slow and Lazy too!

    MC

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    1. MC,
      From you list, if Pitt got Fields, Henry, Apke, Grimm, McKenzie... that would be great.
      Henry, Apke, McKenzie all ran track!! and yes they are fast and put the work in as do Fields and Grimm.

      Winovich comes from TJ that is a great program at developing players. Boxen from Beaver Falls but Fields over Boxen. I don't know of Bookser. Zeise shouldn't be on the list!

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    2. You just don't like Zeise's dad. He will get BCS offers and has an offer from Arizona

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    3. He will get college offers from colleges daddy has contacts with. Pitt, Temple, Arizona... I'm sure there are more. He is not BCS talent in my book.
      But, yes, I don't like PZ and glad he is not covering Pitt football.

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  28. I take his point a little different. I feel like its great for the area and the Univ to stick with lots of WPIAL kids. However, lets also understand that the quantity of talent is greater in Fla., Cali., and Texas!!!

    Instead of being nice and offering a two star recruit in the local area, go and try to get a three star in Fla.

    There is speed here, I think Foster can hang with lots of these kids when it comes to burst and straight up speed! The problem is we(WPIAL) only have a few when those three states they have dime a dozen.

    Many of our fast kids are smaller running back types!! Wheeler, running back from Montour a year ago, and the couple rb's from Central Catholic. They end up in the MAC! Good ball players but don't have the size of D1.

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    1. Apke, Henry, and McKenzie are all blazing fast. Speed is not a problem with any of the top kids in the WPIAL next year.

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    2. I think I was trying to say that in a long about way Chris. There is speed here when we consider the amount of players. Those other three states have lots of kids and lots of kids that play football.

      Our top kids are usually pretty good!! I hope Pitt tries like hell to get them each and every year!!!

      I believe Beaver County does a pretty good job of producing D1 kids. I wonder how BC compares in total high school kids and D1's produced to other areas.

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  29. I wait for your comments, Chris. Always spot on. Thanks.

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  30. Pitt football recruiting ranked #30 by rivals, 4th in ACC behind FSU, VT, and Clemson. Pretty impressive.

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  31. I wait for your comments, Chris. Always spot on. Thanks.

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  32. Chris, how does next years WR class compare with this one. How does Apke compare with Foster and Boyd?

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  33. I don't think Zanna and Patterson were "top level recruits". Zanna was/is a project and patterson is well... just not athletic.

    They don't rebound because Adams until the Nova game just hasn't had proper technique. Zanna has never been a great rebounder. Despite what appears to be a strong upper body - he still gets pushed out. Evident on defense, too.

    Robinson I feel is suffering from high minutes he got early in the year. Hopefully he catches a break down the stretch w/ the emergence of Ziegler.

    Also... guards just haven't been rebounding like typical Pitt teams. Rebounding is a team sport. Ziegler shows promise here.

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    1. Zanna was a top 100 recruit who many scouts thought could turn into a NBA player eventually. At one time Patterson was a top 50 player but eventually dropped out of the top 100 because of his lack of athleticism.

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    2. Zanna has bird legs...
      that is why he gets pushed around down low. He is not working out the lower body that much albeit he developed his upper body since coming to Pitt.
      I would question Pitt's BB off-season conditioning program... not just upper/lower body strength but SAQ, aerobic (run), etc.

      I know people have mentioned names for coaches to replace Dixon, but keep an eye on the Hurley brothers.

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  34. The big question going into today's game against UConn and any other game for that matter... Does UConn have athletic big guys who can rebound?

    If the answer is yes... then... not good.

    But no more excuses for Jamie starting today. We're going to find out if it was really the changes he instituted that got the rebounds against Villanova... or if it was just Villanova.

    PittofDreams

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  35. For everyone saying the south has so much more speed and better athletes did you read the article on espn?

    "Several college coaches said players from Florida are no more versatile or athletic than players from other states. What they did say, however, is that players from Florida -- as well as those from other Southern or warm-weather states -- are generally a little more advanced than players from the upper Midwest or the Northeast because they have the benefit of spring practice."

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    1. That comment has nothing to do with speed or athletism.
      it has to do with skill at the position.
      Northeast HS have year-round weightlifting or conditioning programs... the issue is whether they participate in it.

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    2. Bingo!

      Speed is great, but not as much if you don't know what you're doing (or if you can't take a hit, but that's another angle)

      Did Steve Slaton run track? Because track champ Tommie Campbell sure looked awfully slow chasing him in that game all those years ago (WVU 2006)

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    3. It's not about quality as much as quantity!! There are just more kids in Cali, Texas, and Fla. Fla schools are huge. If we made a Beaver County team and traveled the country playing the same size I'm sure we would be respectable!!

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    4. Orignal Ether...
      Steve Slaton ran track.
      He had the #6 Long Jump in US in HS at one point which as you know means he has strong legs for explosive power.

      http://pa.milesplit.com/athletes/13752-steve-slaton

      You guys are starting to get it... the better skill players typically run track because they are fast.

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    5. The Slaton running track question was a bit of a joke.

      The main point was a track champ looked very slow on that play, mainly because he didn't know what he was doing.

      Of course, Tommie Campbell should have never been moved to LB, but you get the point.

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    6. funny how Campbell is still doing some chasing on the field ... but Slaton isn't hasn't beed doing any more running for about 2 years now

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  36. Pitt misses the Big Dance for the 1st time in 10 years under Dixon last year.

    Then, mid this season, he loses a couple where Pitt was favored never mind that his Pitt team also destroyed Georgetown on the road.

    Now, people are looking for a replacement.

    Unbelievable.

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  37. Dang it! - Pitt's only up 13 at the half...fire Dixon before the 2nd half starts please?

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  38. Jamie Dixon is a great coach and I hope he stays at Pitt for a long, long time.

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  39. Holy crap... NCAA revises rules for recruiting, etc

    http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2013/division+i+streamlines+rulebook

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  40. I liked how Pitt played in the 1st half.
    Johnson and Zieglar played a lot of minutes in 1st half with Woodall at PG... they looked good playing together.
    Adams... he needs to go to Big Man school
    Doesn't know how to get position. Can't hold onto the ball. (I mean when some punny guard rips it out of your hands) Doesn't go up strong with shots. etc. etc.
    But he will be fine.

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  41. Joe, Adams did show at points his power going for rebounds but i do agree he has to show more offensively. His defense is pretty stellar tho. He is very active. I'd rather have that then a clueless Taylor for most of the time

    Triojan412

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  42. Based on what I read in the Trib this morning, no one should waste their time wondering if Foster will decommit. Sounds like a kid who knows where he wants to go.

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    1. No biggie..
      Just hope that in a year or two when he looks to transfer... that he doesn't come knocking on Pitts door.
      I'm not big on transfers and would rather have homegrown. I don't want wpial players to think Pitt is a fallback if it doesn't work out.

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    2. i agree. I appreciated when graham told dorian bell to pound salt last year when bell wanted to come to pitt from duquesne

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  43. Bobby Babich (Quippa) named Jacksonville DC.

    His 2nd chance at NFL DC. The first goround at Chicago didn't go well and he got demoted.
    The new Jacksonville HC was Bobby's assistant at North Dakota... role reversal.

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  44. I thought Dante Taylor had solid game yesterday making critical free throws, a nice pick n roll jumper late in the game, and tough rebounding. Very unselfish player as a senior losing minutes to a freshmen. Speaking of which, looks to me that Adams is being more active on the defensive of front, trying to score more instead of pass and you can see him really working hard.

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  45. chris, what do you make of terrish webb and titus howard visiting toledo? you would think that theyd be 100% sold on pitt

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    1. Tyler Boyd is "scheduled" to visit Tennessee next weekend.

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    2. hes been scheduled to visit a ton of places. well see if he actually goes. i just thought it was odd that they would visit toledo.

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    3. Yeah, Toledo is beautiful at this time of year.

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  46. Dokish,

    Not to be mean, and not to defend those who get their jollies by trashing 18 yo kids for their college choices, but do you get any sense that Foster has any clue that many Pitt fans aren't upset that he picked Alabama, but that the reasons he gave for picking Alabama were completely illogical?

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    1. Yeah, you nailed it. Nobody is blaming him for choosing Alabama. It's just that his reasoning was strange and nonsensical.

      And while I'm at it I don't know what his dad is talking about because I think a vast majority of Pitt fans didn't trash him at all. And that's because many thought he would change his mind.

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    2. Whenever Foster tells everyone he is picking Pitt...
      and that brought more media than would be...
      for instance PG Pitt reporter Warner (instead of White) covered as well as Chris of Pantherlair.
      Then they show up and he picks Alabama.
      so... people don't like being lied to (perhaps he should go to ND)
      I never thought he would pick Pitt... but as the year went on, it looked like 90% chance of Pitt landing him.
      I say good luck to him..
      but don't let the door hit you on the way out the door.

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    3. Well, God told Robert to choose Alabama. How can you argue with that? God being Nick Saban, Joe D, and a pecan pie whispering to him from Foster's closet.

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    4. He hasn't seen trashing. If he would have picked Pitt over Bama, the dirty, dirty, south would have showed him how they really are.

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    5. I have been convinced that Pitt was shooting the ball too late in the shot clock each possession so at the last game I gave myself an assignment to record their shot clock / shooting data. I recorded the time of the first shot was taken on each possession. I did not record anything for second, third chances per possession:
      I hope this is readable. It surprised me that only two first shots were taken at the end of the shot clock...what does this data tell me. I am me sure about the shooting correlation but it did tell me that my wife thought I was nuts sittings at the game with a pencil and paper making notes.

      Time. # Cumulative %
      30-35. 7. 15%
      25-29. 10. 37%
      20-24. 11. 61%
      15 -19. 5. 72%
      10-14. 4. 81%
      5-9. 7. 96%
      0-4. 2. 100%
      Subtotal. 46
      Fouled. 3
      Turnover. 9
      Total. 58

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    6. Anonymous...
      Would have been nice to see who was the PG.
      Also 1st half vs 2nd half.
      1st half seemed they were pushing the pace with Woodall at PG... and Johnson and Zieglar playing a good bit of 1st half.

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    7. Joe d
      Thanks for the feedback I knew that u Of all people would be interested (and I mean that as a compliment)
      . I do have it broken out by halves but for purposes of putting it on dokes site I consolidated the two halves. I didn't want to bore everyone with too much detail. Ur point about who was playing point guard is a good one. Maybe I will do that at Saturdays game agains DePaul. Too hard to do this analysis for road games. Not sure if that will tell us any more than we already know about pitt but it will cement my status with my wife that I am truly nuts...
      Btw if anyone can tell me how to post here from an iPhone without using the anonymous tag I would very much appreciate it...

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    8. I think what I did was logged in as a web site!! Or view as a web site. Log in like u would at home on a pc. Then it should show up in that bar.

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    9. At the bottom of this page above where it says Chris Dokish, it says "view web version." Click on that and then u need to log in. I'm assuming u already have a log in. If not get one.

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  47. This goes to Paul Chryst's philosophy on coaching. If you don't want to be here.....get out. You are either all in with this coach or you are not. Coach Wannstedt was a little different. If you committed and you looked elsewhere, you had your scholaeship offer pulled. Unless of course you were a top talent.

    The pair looking at Toledo is not surprising. They are both good player's in a pond full of good player's. They are looking at how best they can see the field. Some kids look at the depth chart and see a lot of competition and go to a place where there are less obstacles. Some thrive on the competition and are confident they will get better and overcome the obstacles and see the field.

    There is no "right" way of going about their business. The NFL will find you if you are talented enough. It's the Robert Foster syndrome in reverse. Foster thinks he can make it Alabama and see the field. I disagree with his current talent assessment in Alabama. He will struggle to see the field and will not fit in with the southern players. Additionally, the argument of in order to the be the best, you need to compete against the best is not accurate. There are many in the NFL that didn't compete against the best in college, that are thriving in the league. Not yet sure if Coach Chryst would welcome Foster as a transfer. Personally, I wouldn't. Does Alabama?

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    1. If Chryst strategy to land Boyd was to bring in Howard and Webb... ok.. I get it.
      But if Boyd goes elsewhere, will Chryst pull the schollie?? He did that with the Florida kid.. julius james. I believe they have it to james because they were trying to lure the WR from his HS. When the WR committed elsewhere, Pitt pulled the schollie even though the kid committed.

      The question is... why are the 2 Clairton kids looking elsewhere now? kinda late. Especially with all the Pitt basketball games they have been to lately.

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  48. If Tyler Boyd is committed to Pitt, why did he agree to talk Bill O'Brien in his own home?

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    1. Because Bill O'Brien is a good recruiter!!
      Boyd has a relationship with PSU incoming QB.

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    2. bob lichtenfels has been saying that boyd is just a really good kid and hates telling people no. i would too. the kids build relationships with these coaches for years in some cases and after that to tell a coach that you want to be somewhere else is difficult... or at least it would be for me. im more concerned about his tennessee visit

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    3. Tennessee has a new coach... the former HC from Cincinnati.
      I would be more concerned with Michigan State, if he visits there. Cox from Jeaneatte is there.

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    4. He was supposed to go to Mich. St. this past weekend and cancelled again!!!! I would say I'm 99.9% sure he's going to Pitt

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    5. Interesting that Joe D mentions Bill O'Brien as a good recruiter. Here's a quote from Scott Brown's article in the Trib yesterday. "Forget 40 yard dash times and statistics that are equally eye-popping. The question Bill O'Brien most frequently asks when the Penn State coach and his assistants are evaluating prospective recruits is this: "Is he a football player?"

      Wonder what Coach O'Brien thinks about recruits running track and 100m times?

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  49. Boyd is going to be at Pitt next season. Don't worry about it.

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    1. You had Foster at 90% going Pitt before announcement (as did I)...
      so, ya never know.

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    2. Foster is considered one of the biggest surprises in recent years so you can hardly use that as an example.

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    3. With all due respect Chris, if he was committed to Pitt he wouldn't be meeting with O'Brien. Can't slice it any other way.

      And you can't speak dirty things about O'Brien for Chryst pulled this on Foster.

      Your thoughts?

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    4. Confirmed today he's not meeting with him.

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  50. I know this is much more of a football site, but I have to ask... Given our need for finding a Big Man late in HOOPS for 2013, I was wondering if anyone knows if coach Dixon would consider a guy like that #44 for Montrose yesterday as an extra rebounder? He's a much stronger pure rebounder than Mike Young, and that happens to be a future need for us. If not, wonder what our options are?

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    1. This is not more of a football site. There's just not as much to talk about with the basketball program.

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    2. being more of a football site is not a bad thing, but you just confirmed that point.

      More importantly, would be nice to know what kind of Center/rebounding prospects coach may be pursuing. So silent out there, I'll have to assume nobody knows or is keeping things close to the vest for a reason.

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  51. It's a sad day for Wpial sports... when an activist BOE runs off a successful coach.
    Good luck at Temple... (Terry Smith of Gateway).

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    1. Temple made 21 offers to the 2014 class...
      Only 1 from wpial..
      guess who...

      I'm sure Terry Smith will be recruiting wpial for Temple which is a good thing for wpial players... more opportunities.

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  52. The change in NCAA recruiting rules...

    interview with Pitt grad (Matt Dudak) currently on RichRod staff... was on Wanny's staff.

    http://footballscoop.com/news/8691-q-a-with-a-recruiting-director-on-the-effects-of-the-ncaa-rules-changes

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  53. Good move for Terry Smith. Is there any more to this story? Who is the coach of Temple? I believe Addazzio has moved elsewhere.

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  54. Rivals upgraded Dorian Johnson to 5 stars yesterday! Yes, these ratings are more subjective than objective. But it is nice to have a 5 star recruit.

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    1. Yeah, I saw that. But they didn't adjust thier position rankings. If you look, they have 2 5star lineman. Tunsil is the first 5star and overall #1 prospect for OL, and Johnson is the other 5star but he is listed as the 13th best OL. Looks dumb with all the 4stars in between.

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  55. Bill OBrien apparently isn't that good of a recruiter. I know he's good but Boyd told him thanks but no thanks to his visit.

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    1. My guess is that since Boyd developed a relationship with Hacklenburg in a skills camp last season, O'Brien tried to exploit that, intending to tell Boyd he would be the prime WR for PSU over the next 3-4 years.

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  56. Hey Chris, what does a junior day actually consist of? Is it better to invite only the top end recruits or a large number of recruits? Is the main benefit just to get them on campus for a "visit"/"one-one-one skill evaluation"?

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    1. Sometimes a school will invite a lot of kids, but sometimes, like Pitt is doing this time, they invite just the top local targets that could get there on a visit. As for the main benefit, it brings together a lot of the kids you want so you can really hit them all at once. You also hope that kids hit it off with each other and then want to play together. Bottom line, you just hit them hard and hit him them early, and hope that some affection for the program is born.

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  57. Pitt is no longer recruiting Kenton Gibbs, by the way.

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    1. Any specific reason why? Especially considering he probably was the #1 DT they were looking at not to long ago... Is it just the number of scholarships available based on them offering Weah and Poker?

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    2. he waited too long and the spots are filled. i dont mind this really. Id rather have gibbs than taleni but if pitt waits til signing day for gibbs and he chooses elsewhere theyre skrewed. the only problem i have is this might burn some bridges at cass tech. that place is a factory

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  58. I was yelling at the TV tonight... the last minute of the game.
    geesh... almost blew it.
    Pitt has problems with the press... wait till Louisville.
    I yelled the most when with some 30 sec remaining and shot clock winding down... Woodall wanted to do a dribbling routine as if he was on Johnny Carson (wait that was Miller)... Dixon was pissed and called a timeout. I thought for sure Woodall was going to turn the ball over.
    Glad for the win. Pitt will need to be 10-8 in Big East season play to make NCAA.

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    1. I think if you look at their schedule the rest of the way, they should get there.

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  59. Pitt RPI is now at 51.
    Probably currently considered a bubble team.
    However, on Sagarin, they are ranked 14th which is BS. Sagarin has Pitt way ahead of Butler even though Butler SOS is harder and better record. Seems when Pitt blew out those powderpuff teams, the winning margin hiked up their sagarin ratings. Therefore, RPI is what to look at. Butler is 11th in RPI.

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    1. Pitt is still ranked higher than Kentucky, Wisconsin, Villanova & Notre Dame.....3 of which will make the dance.

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  60. Chandler Kincade is definately looking at other options because of the Keller Chryst offer. He's afraid if Chryst's nephew comes, all other QB's will be pushed to the back. He just went to ND Junior Day last weekend. I still think he picks Pitt in December when he graduates early

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    1. Keller Chryst is not coming to Pitt in my opinion.
      I can see him at Stanford.

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    2. I tweeted yesterday about a few top QBs that Pitt was after. A.J. Long and Joey Duckworth both plan to visit for Junior Day, as might Ramroth Finnegan. And one of the top '15 QBs in the east, Chris Riddle of Virginia, is already very close with Brooks Bollinger. Don't worry about QB. If Kincade goes elsewhere, which I doubt, Pitt will add somebody of equal ability.

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  61. Chris Britton has been offered as a grayshirt. Unknown if he'll take it.

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    1. Pitt is currently at 26.
      Sounds like they are capping it there. Are they waiting to hear from any that are outstanding?

      There is an article about a HS coach banning Leach of Washington State from recruiting at his HS because Leach pulled an offer on a kid.
      What about kids that committ early and decide to decommitt leaving the coach in a learch.
      Perhaps NCAA needs to have a rule, early committs until after Sept of Senior year... or early signing like BB.

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    2. Whats the story with Britton is he good?

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    3. He was a great basketball player, picked up football as a junior, only played 3 games because of injury, played as a senior and dominated.. made the big 33 i believe. hes raw but hes supposed to have freak athleticism and has a good frame at 6'3" 210.

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  62. Is there a scheduled day when JoJo Kemp is commiting and who he is most likely to pick?

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  63. L'vill lost to a weak nova team. Pitt barely beat the Friars on the road BUT we got the win and that's all that matters. Lets not get our panties in wad bc we squeaked by last night. Just imagine what L'vill is feeling like today especially a home loss against cuse this past weekend. We had this feeling all last year. Just sayin

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  64. Rivals is saying the Poker from Wisc. picked Pitt.

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  65. Won't let me reply directly, so I'll comment on Joe D's 2 thought's here...

    1. Pitt and the press: didn't see the end of the game, so I'll take your word for it. But since when did Pitt ever fare well against the press? I may be wrong, but it always seemed like a struggle for them, even with the best Pitt teams this past decade.

    2. Early committs: I think the kids get the sympathy on this because this is the only time (recruiting) the kids have the power. Once they sign, the school owns them. They can't leave (usually) without the penalty of sitting out. The coach? He can leave whenever he wants.
    I do think there should be an early signing period, just like in hoops.

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    1. Committing/decommitting...
      pulling scholarships...
      it works both ways...
      players working the system as well as coaches.
      But there needs to be some rule changes. Perhaps an early signing period.
      It's getting a little out of hand recently... and that includes Chryst.

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    2. Alot of these kids get screwed all the time so any leverage they can hold on to I'm fine with it.

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  66. Chris, do you see Chryst and Co. using Boyd as a hybrid WR/RB much like WVU used Travon Austin and Kentucky with Randall Cobb? I've heard that WR is relatively new to him so he might need time to adapt early on. That being said, it seems like you want to get him the ball in his hands in the open field and use his athleticism to make plays. I see Webb and Challingsworth as being the standard WR.

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  67. Several question coming.
    1. Why give a greyshirt to Britton when the 2014 class has soo many quality players within 300miles of Pitt? Is it that not many LB's in 2014 class.

    2. At least 3 current players will be asked to leave after spring ball since we are at 26. Question is, who will those 3 be. I would say it could be players that have been with Pitt 4yrs (RS JR) or players that have been with Pitt 2 years (So or RS Frosh). I doubt any frosh or 3 yr players will be asked to leave. That means Davis twins will not be asked to leave unless they do so voluntarily.

    3. Observation I made from 2013 list and something I saw from last year.... Height matters.
    No recruit is under 6'0" in 2013 except for kicker Blewitt.

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    1. Most of the time height can translate better to adding on weight and muscle. Lord knows I've added the weight. lol

      Britton is supposed to be super athletic so no harm in the grayshirt

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    2. I looked at the scholarship board..
      I've identified 5 RS JR that may be on the hot seat.
      Rackard, Lippert, Tinker, Hollins, Mason.
      Another possibility is Anderson... he is only 5'8".

      Correction... Pitt will need to cut 4 current players as of today's committ list of 26 + Savage.

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    3. Harrisburg high school kids are a different animal. I'm surprised you didn't know that. He is a great athlete but school wise and other things don't make him a super attractive recruit.

      Pitt won't need to cut anyone. You're way way off on d-1 athletics.

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    4. Anonymous...
      Pitt will have to "cut 4 players as of today"...
      whether they "leave on their own" is a different story.
      But Pitt is limited to a total of 85 scholarship players.
      Do the math... I'm spot on!

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    5. How do you know who is a walk on or not on scholarship? The coach always has money to give. At least that's what happened to me but I wasn't on scholarship.

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    6. @ Joe D - if you're spot on then show your work. Who were the 85 on scholarship in 2012? Subtract who has left (for any reason) & show why they must drop another 4 to fit in this class.

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    7. Anonymous, there is a scholarship list on pantherlair.
      So, yes, I know the list just like thousands of others.
      And in football, there is no "partial" athletic aid so you are dead wrong that a coach always has money to give. Walkons can submit for other financial aid available whether need based or academics based just like any other student.

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    8. There is aide dude. Coaches have money.

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  68. You think Mason may be on the hot seat??? Just goes to show how out of touch with reality you really are Joe.

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    1. I would release Mason.. he is 6th on the list if I ranked them. He can't last the season.
      But then again, I wouldn't have 26 committs for 2013 either to have to cut 4 players.
      My top 4 are: Rackard, Lippert, Tinker, Anderson.
      What 4 players have you identified??

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    2. There is zero chance that Pitt would push Mason out. And Tinker will be in the mix to start next season. Don't worry about who is going to leave. It will happen in due time.

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    3. Joe D,

      I don't post very often but your list of players is completely ridiculous. Let's brake it down player by player.
      Rackard, okay this one maybe has some credibility but it's not like he is a waste of a scholarship. He's played a good amount this season along with some last season. I doubt they release him from his scholarship.
      Lippert, again this is ridiculous. Yeah he has never materialized into the 4* prospect he was rated as but he was on the two deep this year and played a good amount why would you cut him when you don't have great depth on the d-line and you just moved one of your DE/DT to the o-line. That makes zero sense.
      Tinker, has played a lot this year especially towards the end of the season, he is going to be in the mix to start next year and the coaches like his ability. Why on earth would they tell him thanks but no thanks?
      Hollins, all I can say about this is that if they suspended him for a year why wouldn't they just cut him back then. Why would they allow him to work out with the team and do what he is and attend classes if they are just going to cut him now? Makes no sense.
      Anderson, he was our only back up QB this past year. When Sunseri was limping against VT he was warming up and would have been our starter if Sunseri got hurt, i get we have okay depth now but why ask him to leave now?
      Mason, to even suggest he is on the hot seat for a scholarship makes me speechless. Shame on you

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  69. Mason = Heart and Soul of that defense. If Mason wasn't hurt we beat Notre Dame. Joe D you are a coldly calculating man with ice water in his veins.

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    1. If you haven't noticed, BCS D1 football is a business.
      but then again..
      I wouldn't have gone over the limit of 23 to begin with.

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  70. Any kid who has earned their degree and not a starter is vulnerable. Any kid who doesn't fit PC's style of play will have a discussion with him very soon. He will encourage them to look elsewhere and will also help them find a new location. Think in those terms and you'll find your answers.

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    1. That is why I picked on RS JR to cut... they have been with the program for 4 years. If they are not a starter, plenty of others that can serve as backups.
      Helios Flying... who are your 4???
      Just Say'n

      I'm not sure if you realize this... but BCS D1 football is a business. Pitt should not be giving handouts.

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  71. I don't understand the fascination with this, it will happen naturally. At the very least once spring practices, the roster will be parred and when fall camp opens Britton will have a spot if he qualifies. His interview was a step above Plax, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was nervous.

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  72. Please switch to hoops. Like everyone else I was hoping steve Adams would b an impact player the first time he stepped in te court and play like he did the all the time like he dis the. First five minutes of the providence game. His improvement has been slow but very steady.
    Just for kicks I checked out the status of the two fuve star kids providence recruited for this year.
    Ricardo lerdo, after jerking them around for months, finally signed but is a partial qualifier which means he cannot play until next year.
    Kris Dunn had some kind of shoulder issue and has been slow to develop. Tray Woodall, of all people, took him off the dribble at the end of the game the other night.
    Moral of the story is it is not just pitt but other schools as well that have issues with five star players. All in all I would say that we have been pretty fortunate with Adams development. He looked like bill Walton for five minutes the other night. Hopefully he will continue to improve.

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  73. Doke, no need to respond to JoeDy. He just tries to bait you into responding and you do.

    I like Tinker and if he has a real QB throwing to him, maybe he gets some PT. I do agree with JoeDy on Andersen, too small, he is barely a D2 QB, and could not beat out the other starting D2 QB who started for us. The other QB's for next year will need the reps.

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  74. Div I football may be business, but even considering letting Mason go would be dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb:

    1. It would be a PR nightmare, something Pitt doesn't need.

    2. He can still play, even if ideally only in situational settings.

    3. Even if he couldn't play, him on the practice field is going to have an impact on the rest of the team - how can another player complain about a nagging injury or something like that when Mason is out there practicing with what he has been through?
    It's an intangible factor that can't be measured.

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    1. They can always just make him a grad assistant.

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    2. For that to work, it would be something he wanted and is ready to do. I don't imagine that happening - the kid has a lot of fight in him.

      It would be a very bad move to pull his scholarship. Any successful executive knows the value of leadership, chemistry and trust in optimizing business performance. I'm hazarding a guess that PC understands this.

      In short, its Management 101 which is taken in conjunction with Sales/Marketing 101 so that one understands the many aspects of running an overall organization and not just the value of sales presence and promotions.

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  75. Boyd is not visiting the Vols. Looks like Pitt is it for our top 4. Orndorff and Chapman already on campus. Boyd and Johnson no more visits and telling other coaches sorry I'm a panther.

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  76. According to Rivals, Pitt basketball has offered 3 kids for 2014 class.... not good.
    Pitt has 4 scholarships available for 2013... 2 signed already.
    and 4 scholarships for 2014...

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    1. Maybe I need to shift my "ranting" to Pitt basketball recruiting???
      Pitt needs 6 recruits within 8 months!!!
      Assuming top recruits sign early.
      That is a lot.
      and it seems like Dixon is slow off the block... wtf.

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    2. Because Rivals is infallible in reporting scholarship offers? I'm sure Dixon is just chillin, not worrying about recruiting at all.

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    3. So, when people complain about Dixon recruiting abilities... then they would be spot on... if he is chillin like you say.
      Someone who makes nearly 2million/yr isn't chillin.
      dumb comment Anonymous.

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  77. Weah is a Panther. Congrats!

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    1. That means 5 current players on scholarship will need to have their scholarship pulled.
      This will be interesting.

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    2. Let me add 4 other potential players leaving to my list of 6.
      Davis twins, Gonzo, Weatherspoon.

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    3. Telling weatherspoon to leave would not be a good idea if PC wants to keep a good relationship with Clarion

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    4. The only other place for Clarion players to go is MAC schools or CalU. Very few come out of Clarion academically qualified let alone a BCS athlete. The tail doesn't wag the dog!

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  78. Joe remember lazenga wuestner are on one year scholarships too

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    1. Technically they are all on one year scholarships.

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  79. Any news or rumors on DC search?

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    1. He is in San Francisco...
      4 possibilities.

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  80. I just read somewhere that SF defenive back coach Donatell is joining the eagles. Looks like some movement now on the 49ers staff.

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  81. Joe D will like the new commit, Jester Weah, 6'3" 190, with electronically timed 4.54 40 and a 33" vertical according to ESPN combine. So those would seem to be legit even the height and weight.

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    1. He ran track as an 10th grader but not after that. I think 11.19 in 100m was his pr (don't know if electronic)... but his long jump was suspect (15 something)... my white nephew jumped further than that when a soph.. lol anyway, that could have been technique related.

      Glad to see 33" vertical... and he is fast.
      With 4 WR's coming in over 6'0"... The Davis twins will see the writing on the wall... don't know if they can play DB but they were highly recruited.

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    2. To again quote Scott Brown's article in the Trib writing about Bill O'Brien's recruiting philosophy: "Forget 40 yd dash times and statistics that are equally eye-popping. The question Bill O'Brien most frequently asks when the Penn State coach and his assistants are evaluating prospective recruits is this: "Is he a football player?"

      I think it's easy to get lost in tangibles and forget what's really most important: "Is he a football player?"

      I hate to quote the PSU coach, but I think his view is shared by a lot of coaches, and as I recall, Joe D lauded O'Brien as a good recruiter, so you'd think his views on recruiting would hold some weight with Joe D.

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    3. Bill O'Brien is a good recruiter because of his ability to land 4star type recruits. He is aggressive in his recruiting and with the NCAA sanction... what he is doing is amazing.
      Now, if you believe that... I've got a bridge to sell you.
      O'Brien follows the "stars" and evaluations. Did he define what a "football player" is?

      The skill players don't get 4stars if they are slow.
      Measurables separate the players because they are playing different levels of competition... that is why they won't use yards/carry, passing stats, etc.
      The NFL also have combines if you hadn't noticed... they look at measurables as well as position skills...

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    4. Wow, you really missed the point. I was speaking of his overall recruiting philosophy, which is to put the emphasis on "football players", not on measurables. An experienced football person will know who is a football player and who isn't. It's not something you define, it's something you see and feel in your gut.

      We all know that kids who are big and fast are the most desireable. You beat the point about track times, etc to death. What separates kids with physical tools from successful football players is "are they football players". That is an intangible that will never show up in a 40 time, or a height or weight chart.

      NFL teams also miss on a lot of kids who have measureables, but don't pan out. Obviously, physical tools are important, but whether that translates into success on a football field depends on the intangible of being a "football player". Instincts, feel for the game etc.

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    5. Keep believing that Dan...

      Measurables matter... but it is position specific.
      Look at Chryst.
      He won't even take an OLineman unless at least 6'5" and 275#.
      He won't look at any player unless at least 6'0".
      regardless of skill, etc.
      Why... there are some measurables he looks at that are position specific... as does O'brien and every single NFL and college coach that is worth a salt.

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    6. To put it another way not related to football, there are people who come out of school with high GPAs, and glittering measureables, but who don't make it. Why? Because they lack the intangibles like common sense, intuition, etc.

      I knew a girl who had a 4.0 out of nursing school, but was a terrible nurse because she had absolutely no common sense and couldn't function well outside of a classroom.

      Any recruiter would think she'd be a great candidate, but that wasn't the case. I've met people with Ph. D.s that I wouldn't hire for any job because once their nose is out of a book, they're lost.

      Of course people with good measureable will get noticed, but it takes a lot more than that to be successful in any field.

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    7. Joe D - Your "white nephew"? I can put up with your moronic track posts, because they are easy to skip. But I can't skip that kind of trash. Why don't you stay off the blogs so recruits don't see your racist attitudes and attribute them to the rest of us.

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    8. Oh God Anonymous...
      lmao... me racist from Quippa that loves to see the Quippa FB players get football scholarships.. you are clueless Anonymous.. Would it make you feel better if I said a "girl" can jump further than this recruit when he was in 10th grade? The reason I used my nephew is because he is NOT athletic. slow, slow, slow and lazy... but he can jump longer than 15' and plays football in wpial.
      Fact of the matter... some people (typically black) have the "fast" gene... its called fast twitch muscles and yes it is heredity.
      Fast twitch muscles... you can sprint faster and jump higher.
      How many "white guys" ran the olympic 100m finals this summer? Zero.
      Long jump finals? Zero.
      But look at longer distances... say 800m or longer, different story. Why? heredity!!

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    9. Good grief!! Really? Lets not add to this!!

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    10. Wait... he is going to call me a sexist next!!

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  82. Louisville looked bad today. Don't know what is going on..
    but Pitino coaching decisions today were poor.

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  83. Interesting that Boyd is at WVU this weekend...
    Just don't get this kid.
    all over the map... literally.

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  84. Dan,
    Oregon Chip Kelly quote regarding his recruiting philosophy.
    The Ducks' roster is full of speed at every position. The biggest reason is that Kelly lives by the philosophy that you can't teach speed, but you can recruit it.
    Why did Pitt lose to Ole Miss? To quote some players.... that SEC speed.. Rushel Shell.
    When at halftime of Pitt v WVU... Wanny was asked, what are you going to do to get back into this game? Run Faster.

    You can "recruit speed"... that are football players!!

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  85. Not to cause panic but instead just reporting the news...Tyler Boyd cancelled his trip to Tennessee and is visiting WVU instead. And let the panic start in 3, 2, 1.....

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  86. It is not all about size and speed, the measurables as Joe suggest. If that were the case, Dorin Dickerson would surely have been a first round pick. Dickerson was an athlete that played football, not a football player that was also a great athlete.

    Paul Chryst and Bill O'brien are recruiting football players. Dana Holgorsen is recruiting athletes with a philosophy of out "speeding" his competitors. This philosophy works well in the NCAA, but not in the NFL. Football players make it to the next level and succeed for years. Pure athletes often struggle to find the right position because they are not football players first. This is not only true in football.

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