Monday, February 18, 2013

Coaching changes

As was rumored, secondary coach Matt House has been promoted to defensive coordinator, long time veteran John Palermo has been added to coach defensive ends and linebackers, and Hank Poteat has been named as a graduate assistant.  Even if House is a success, I think this proves that the Pitt administration really isn't interested in anything more than just saying afloat.  House has ONE year of major college experience as an assistant and now he is in charge of the defense.

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  1. What a friggin joke this is.

    Piece of Shit administration and a bumbling-fuck HC. Ah derrrrr derr.

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    1. Go home mountie

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    2. Not at all. the Admin is content with 6-8 wins and Chryst can barely string together two coherent sentences, he's a bumbling idiot.

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  2. Might we revisit the history of Matt House. He has now become relevant.

    Who is John Palermo?

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  3. Wait.. They hire Palermo as a ends and linebacker coach, but the already have a d-line and linebackers coach on staff. So what will they do with Haering and Inoke?

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  4. I get it like I've mentioned before. I wish we could have brought in Rob Ryan like the rest of you!!! But seriously give me a name of a DC that would have come here for more than one year???? Austin and Orlando are above this job. They are better off at bigger schools and working way thru! I just don't have the resources to come up with a more "logical" candidate!!!!

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    1. There are many more logical candidates than this. It's Pitt being Pitt.

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    2. Orlando went to coach at the powerhouse school of Utah State.

      So much for that theory.

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    3. These kinds of decisions, sadly, aren't limited to football or athletics. Nordenberg has been a great chancellor for the university, but his leadership team seems to operate in a vacuum whereby no outside opinions get in. And institutional checks -- alumni, trustees, etc -- are just yes men.

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    4. Is it Pitt being Pitt or PC being IDK first year head coach. Did he really try hard to get a DC?

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  5. I like all three hires. House has been on the job all off season so there will be continuity on that side of the ball, as well as recruits think highly of him. Palermo gives the veteran presence at 2 positions people have been saying are our week links as far as coaching goes. Poteat adds to the secondary by having been coached by some of the best in the NFL as well as will be working next to our DC, who can have some oversight to the inexperience, it is win win.

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    1. House has one year of major college experience. No offense, but the fact that any fan is okay with this is why the administration continues to not give a damn. If the fans don't scream for accountability then the administration can do what they want.

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    2. The only way fans can complain..
      1. Don't buy tickets to games...
      2. Don't donate to Pitt.

      Bad hire in House.
      Why is Poteat a "GA"... he was some DB coach as some little college in Kentucky. Does he have his degree? Heard that is a requisite at Pitt. Also, could be a numbers issue... only 9 "coaches" allowed to be hired. Only a matter of time that Beckerfield is out the door which I suspect will be by summer.

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    3. Yeah your right its our fault. Hahaha c'mon Chris!!! First of all the Big East is hardly major college football! I just don't understand who they were supposed to bring in. Nobody will come here u til they get established. Coming from the Wanny years to Haywwod to Fraud and now Chryst is hardly an attractive work environment. Once he settles the ship maybe then it will be attractive.

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    4. That's ridiculous. It's major college football. There are a lot of people who would kill to be a DC at a major college. It's that "we are just little ol' Pitt" mentality that I'm talking about. The schools with great programs are the ones with the fans who demand no less than the best. Pitt fans act like they're Robert Morris.

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    5. Quipscript...
      As a fellow Quip... disappointed you posted that..

      With that mentality, then Pitt should shutdown football and move to the Catholic 7 league.

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    6. Let me ask you this. Would you rather have Austin for one year or House for four? I really don't believe Austin or other big names would stay other than for big money and I mean big money. This reminds me of people that have no idea about the business of MLB but want the Pirates to just offer the money to Josh Hamilton. Like he would want to come here for the same money that he would get in Anaheim???? This ship is still a little shaky and maybe the word is out about the admin. None of us like them so why would the coaches???

      Look at Quip, they have to beat people away to be assistants but Freedom can never find a head coach. Once Pitt settles the mess down then they can name their assistants based on "who" they want!!
      The real problem was his initial hires to the staff!!

      Look, I want the big name as much as the next guy. If this was strictly about money from admin and Austin was willing to put in three or four years then by all means give me Austin.

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    7. You realize that in your scenario, Austin (or anyone else) leaving after 1 season usually means they did a pretty good job and somebody wanted him?

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    8. Rather have Austin for 1 year...
      A confident head coach has no problems with coaches moving on as they can always hire another coach.

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    9. I'm still trying to figure out why Austin would leave in one year. It's not like he's high in demand.

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    10. So what you're saying is you'd rather have a less qualified person because they will stay than a qualified person who may or may not leave?

      Would you want a top surgeon doing your operation who may move on in a few years to a top hospital or a bad surgeon who will be there forever since he has no where else to go?

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    11. Look if Austin wanted to coach at Pitt he would have been here already. They will only pay so much and if he did a decent job somebody would easily pay for his services.

      I understand if he leaves that means they won but can this team, right now with all the past handle more coaching changes or is that just the way it is in college??

      I'm not happy about the hire but also not sure at this point it was going to be any thing better!

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  6. Speaking in terms of football only, and that is what I care about it. The Pitt Admin. completely sucks. Period. I'm sure Paul is counting down the days until the Pitt Admin changes.

    2 freaking months and we announce that House has been promoted. The Pitt way.

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  7. He is not qualified at all! !

    COACHING EXPERIENCE
    Professional
    Carolina Panthers, 2008, special teams assistant & strength and conditioning assistant.

    St. Louis Rams, 2009-11, quality control/defense.


    College
    Michigan State, 2001-02, graduate assistant/secondary.
    North Carolina, 2003-04, defensive assistant.
    Gardner-Webb, 2005, defensive line.
    Univ. of Buffalo, 2006-07, defensive backs & recruiting
    coordinator.

    Pittsburgh, 2012, secondary.

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    1. Quality Control means he was the video guy!!
      just 13 months ago...

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    2. That is simply not true. Look up what a quality control coach does. A QC coach is highly responsible for helping the defensive staff break down film and game plan.

      I can understand being underwhelmed by this hire, but to say a QC is a video guy proves your lack of knowledge when it comes football and coaching staffs.

      This comment was simply a ploy to make others who didn't know what a QC was come over to your side of bashing Chryst.

      Again, if you don't like the hire that's fine, but stop spewing out false information.

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    3. Well.. you pretty much explained the video guy...
      which means every video guy out there is ready to be a DC..
      Only Chryst!!

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    4. Video guys film practice and import it to the system, and thats it. I don't know why I even bother trying to argue with you.

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  8. This is disappointing news. Given what has been written so far and the time it took to settle for this, apparently Pitt is not willing to pay coordinators very much money. Palermo seems to be the more logical choice for coordinator than House. House is getting a lot of credit for how well the secondary performed last year but a lot of it had to do with the talent he had with which to work.

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  9. I've heard rumors that some players aren't too fond of House.

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    1. False - no you didn't. In fact, I've heard the exact opposite

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  10. When is Pederson done? How much more of him do we have to take?

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  11. Does this mean PC is clueless or Peterson is a cheap ass because to wait 3 months for this absurd.

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    1. SP does not set the budget. He is given the budget and he passes it down the chain. Nordy is the tight wad when it comes to football. The only way he wants to win is if he doesn't have to spend to much money in doing so. Just like Nutting and the Pirates.

      With that said, SP is still a total disaster. I be PC only speaks to him when he has to. In coaching circles, SP has quite the reputation....not in a good way

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    2. Chryst is clueless...
      I said it before and will say it again...
      yet I get berrated for it.

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  12. Sounds like... Palermo is hired to "coach the coaches"...
    He is coaching Beckerfield...
    He is coaching Haering...
    He is coaching House...
    Isn't that what a DC is suppose to do???

    Nutty... why, because Palermo coached at Wisky alongside Chryst... and Alverez told Chryst to hire Palermo.

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    1. Joe D, that is my point. Palermo in my opinion is qualified and will be a major player in this hire of House.
      I also would have wanted someone more qualified as DC, but really did not think PC or SP or whomever would pull the trigger and that is why I think this can work out in the long run.
      Coach Chryst brought in a teacher and supposedly one that is very good at it.

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  13. Obviously Chris you know more about what goes on there than I do. My perspective is that we are "little ole Pitt!" It was built that way since Wanny left. Wanny had us going in a good direction. They fire him and instead of taking that opportunity to make a splash hire the went way backwards(Haywood). Sort of stepped up and hired Fraud and then he sent us backwards!! Chryst was ok and actually bc of the past a decent hire. It needs to be built back up.

    Who is to say he didnt try to hire some these other guys we all want(Austin, Orlando, and etc.)??

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  14. Chris, yes to show a point to the administration you don't buy tickets or give money but that means for you to stop covering them too. Show them you do not care too. You know this won't happen. People will still go to the games. So what is done is done. Give house a chance. I am not saying I approve of the hire by any means. I hate it. Like I said Steve pederson is working without a contract right now. He is done once the chancellor retires too. Cochran is leaving too, so this means a whole new regime. By this time next year we can see if as an administration if the school we love is going to be serious about any sport. In football, I agree with Joe D (I don't say this often) we should be a top 25 team every year. Wrestling, We have the top kids in our back yard! Come on. Baseball has decent wpial recruits and the verdict is out on them. It will be impossible to compete vs FSU and UNC. And womens basketball is ridiculous. When was the last WPIAL on pitts team? there is some decent players who come through.

    Trojan412

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  15. The one thing I want to know is who the other 3 candidates were and if any of them turned him down like the rumor says. This was supposed to be a fall back plan if he couldn't get the guy he wanted. Noone should believe a word of the statement that "he set the bar high" on the interview and "he was our guy" stuff. Chryst HAS to say that.

    This is not a good hire at all and if they paid the last DC $450K, they can afford it. I do like the Palermo and Poteat hires though.

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    1. I like the Palermo hire "IF" they get rid of Breckerfield so he coaches the DLine only.
      I like Poteat... but "GA"... why not full title of coach?
      I don't think Hux was paid $450 but I could be wrong... I thought low 300's.

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    2. I agree Joe. I'd really like to know the details of the process, and how many people had to be sifted through before they settled on House. Was Chryst turned down by better qualified candidates?

      While I like to give everyone a fair chance, my first reaction was, "This sucks". I mean you take 2 months, and then hire a relatively inexperienced person already on your staff??? Good grief.

      I hope this works out, but right now I'm very disappointed. Disappointed, but not surprised. Typical Pitt mentality. Go small-time, when a big-time hire is what's needed.

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    3. My guess is PC wanted to do this right from the start, and waited to give the appearance that he searched and searched and it kept leading him back to
      House. Maybe an attempt to make House look more attractive as a candidate.

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    4. Any evidence to support these hair-brained conspiracies?

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  16. Only other thing I'll say that this mandates that Pitt has to finish at least 8-4 this season.

    Has there been a press release yet? Or a Q&A session?

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  17. Oh no! More yinzers are going to be cheapwads and not buy tickets or donate. I suspect most of the whiners also buy the $100 tickets or donate the minimum $50 bucks. I'm sure Pitt will miss you. Here's an idea: stop being so f*cking negative all the time and bring your friends and family to fill up the joint once in a while.

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  18. Chryst has to like him, but it does not look good. Looks like we are settling because others turned us down. After saying that I cannot imagine their were not others that could have looked better on paper. What can u do if ur a Pitt fan, u have to say hope it works out. If the D stinks next yr though they deserve the criticsm.

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  19. As much as I disapprove of the house promotion, I am excited to see Poteat in the fold. He's young, a 10 year NFL vet, and a Pitt man. I don't know what kind of role GA's play in recruiting, but you have to think that he is someone you want interacting with recruits. I'm hoping he can team with Engram to make a pretty powerful recruiting tandem.

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    1. The only reason you like Poteat is because he is a Pitt guy. He was drafted and played for the Steelers for a few seasons. The guy only had three INTs his entire NFL career. You guys can spin it anyway you want, but the fact of the matter is this is a horrible day for Pitt. Not only did we promote someone with NO coordinating experience, but we brought two guys in with minor roles. This is very Pirate like. Completely disappointing.

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    2. The fact that he went to Pitt means very little to me, and is far from the primary reason I'm pleased to see Poteat back. He's a young guy coming off a successful 10 year NFL career. I think Engram has showed that can be a successful combination on the recruiting trail. And I don't care how many picks he had, if you can stick in that league for 10 years, its not a fluke. IF I was a young player, that's exactly the kind of guy I want to learn from.

      And if you read the first sentence I wrote, I said that I disapprove of the House hire... I just chose not to elaborate. But if you would like me to I agree with the majority here, and think that its a ridiculous promotion, given without merit.... But I'm at least intrigued by Poteat.

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    3. I look at Poteat like Engram...
      Reason I think he will be a good hire... he should be a good recruiter.
      On 1 hand, with House at DC, I can see Dravon Henry along with other top defensive wpial players going elsewhere.
      But on the otherhand, Poteat played with Revis. If Revis gives Dravon Henry (his cousin) the thumbs up on Poteat, then that could be a windfall of other top wpial players going to Pitt.

      College football is 2/3 recruiting... 1/3 coaching.

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    4. They're not going to lose anybody because House is the DC.

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    5. College football is ALL about coaching.

      Didn't Gene Chizik have the number #1 rated class at Auburn?

      Why was John Smith such a dud at Arkansas whereas Bobby Petrino wasn't?

      How did Wannstedt lose to inferior teams so often?

      All of those guys had the recruits.
      Now, part of coaching is being able to recruit. And given how House is one of the better recruiters, this probably helps, not hurts.


      As far as Poteat's NFL career, the lack of great stats means nothing. Probably ends up being a plus, as most great players make lousy coaches.
      There's reason not to like the hires, but that ain't one of them.

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  20. So if Palermo is assumed to oversee most,if not all,of the defensive positions; doesn't it appear that the food chain is slightly skewed? Things do not appear as they seem.

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  21. The longer this went one the writing was on the wall! I guess I'm surprised that everybody is surprised by this!!!

    I agree, I would love to know how this unfolded! I believe Pitt can be top 25 every year. Like we always say at my work place, it all starts at the top!!! Like previous poster mentions it will be interesting how it all unfolds after the new dictatorship!!!!

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  22. As the father of a highly coveted Pitt recruit, and a long time Panther fan I am taking a wait and see approach. I really like PC and his staff. They are different than many of the other staffs we have had contact with. It is my belief that House was his choice from the get-go. I think he looked around for someone who matched their coaching persona/philosophy and when he found no-one, hired House. This could turn out to be a good hire. You can bash it all you want. If you are a Pitt fan you will support the hire and hope that the stadium starts filling up. My kid would have committed to Pitt a long time ago but, he is not happy with the game-day atmosphere.

    You Pitt fans need to stop complaining and start showing up on Saturdays. If you don't, more top recruits will continue to leave the area. If you can't keep the kids in your own backyard, how do you expect to bring in top kids from across the country?

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    1. There's a reason why Pitt fans don't show up in droves. Pitt has been an underachieving program for decades and they have questionable leadership. This program should be a national power. Everything is there except for the desire of the university.

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    2. Pittsburgh is a city of champions..
      that is what we expect...
      if Pitt is not committed to succeed, why waste my time even watching the game on Saturday let alone go to a game and donate money to the program.
      Steelers do it right!! That is why soooo many Steeler diehard fans throughout the nation..
      Penguins do it right!! Sellouts all the time.

      I can tell you, House would not even get hired as HC at many WPIAL HS football teams but gets hired as DC for a D1 BCS team? He was the videoguy for goodness sake just 13months ago. It's a leap to name House as DC.

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    3. I think this is pretty much of a catch-22 in that Pitt needs kids like your son to help get the wins which puts fans in the seats.

      Remember that Pitt is a city school with the sports dollar stretched and with our mediocre results for so long, fans have a wait and see attitude toward Pitt.

      The game day atmosphere will get better the more we win but, we need kids like your son to resurrect this potential FB powerhouse.

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    4. Totally understand where you are coming from as the dad of a potential recruit. Kids do want excitement surrounding the program, and they want a track record of success and placing players in the NFL. Pitt has a decent track record of late with the NFL. They have not won consistently in over 20 years. Their attendance record is also spotty. Pitt fans have demonstrated two things regarding attendance: 1) the team needs to win; and 2) the schedule needs to be strong. I believe the home schedule will be upgraded to the point where fans will be satisfied. Now, PC needs to start winning 8-9 games, on average, with the occasional double-digit season as well. If he accomplishes that, the attendance will quickly get into the 60,000 per game range. I hope your son makes the decision to stay at home at Pitt.

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    5. Joe D and the rest of you whining Panther "fans"

      The city of champions applies to our professional sports teams. College athletics should be a different animal. It should be about your school, your alma mater, your kid's school or alma mater, your friends and relatives who went there. You root for them because you know people who went there. You root for them because they are one of the best schools in the country. You root for them because they aren't Penn State. You root for them because they aren't toothless hillbillies from down south. You root for them because you want them to succeed!

      There are plenty of D1 colleges out there (with worse records than Pitt over the last 20 years) who pack their stadiums on gameday. We can't get 35k for VA Tech on a beautiful fall afternoon. I don't want to hear that crap about needing a field on campus. Heinz field is great. There are seats with backs. Its central to the suburbs. There is plenty of parking and public transportation. Do you know what it is
      like trying to find parking in Oakland.

      Pitt fans need to show up! It doesn't matter what the record is or who the DC is. If you can't show up for the games, maybe the best thing to do is drop the football program and join that new catholic b-ball league.

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  23. Assuming there was enough money available for a better hire, why the heck would Chryst want to make this hire?

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  24. this hire is a JOKE.

    You nailed it - the administration does not care and they know there will be lots of Pitt who continue to drink the kool-aid and cheerlead that are not upset about this. So why spend the money?

    I knew this was coming when that coward Chris Peak strating banning the non-cheerleading, outspoken folks from his weak ass site a week or two ago. EJ's hand is so far up Peak's ass, he has turned that site into a have just for Pitt cheerleaders. He and EJ want no dissenting opinion there so peak in his cowardice has gotten rid of those of us who really care and speak out when we need to.

    Oh well, same old Pitt. Cheap and not willing to make the commitment to succeed

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    1. I noticed that about the Pantherlair board... lots of deleted posts or threads. Lots of koolaid drinking people...

      Peak has egg on his face... he tweeted the rumor of House as DC last week was not true... House being the backup plan because the main target did not accept the position. EJ told him to fire off that tweet..
      Looks like footballscoop nailed it!!

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    2. Yea - you either have the kool-aid drinkers saying all is well no matter what, threads / posts getting deleted, etc.

      on top of that, it now has become polluted with anti-PSU threads (Don't get me wrong, I strongly dislike PSU but it is sad when there are more PSU threads than Pitt ones) not to mention some folks continue to make off topic political rants with impunity

      oh well, and some folks wonder why Pitt can't compete. It is because no one wants to hold the accountabale and make them live up to a higher standard that 30 years of mediocre results

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    3. Based on the attendance I have personally witnessed since Heinz Field opened, I'd suggest that plenty of folks are holding them accountable.

      You want more from them? Write a big check and tell them what you expect for it.

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  25. Assuming there was enough money available for a better hire, why the heck would Chryst want to make this hire?

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    1. Exactly. No one should blame Chryst or the other two coaches they brought in (Very positive additions I might add).

      "...Hi, my name is Hank Poteat. I'm from Harrisburg PA...Pitt Panther for life! Played 10+ years in the NFL, on defense too. Funny, but I was drafted by the Steelers (Hooked up!) yet played long enough that I could have made that a reality. Check out my Super Bowl ring{} Yea, we knew what was coming (spygate smh :/)...but yes, I made a tackle in the game if anyone's asking (solo). You too could make this happen son..."

      "Hi, I'm John Palermo, well you can't say I ain't been around the neighborhood. I've coached at some major programs. Did you know I played college football at Florida State. It was only one year, but hey it's my roots anyways. I put in the work and am a good coach. I understand it's part of my job to help some of these young turks along. btw, NCAA championship rings have more shine than NFL one's, just a man's opinion, but I tried hard as heck to win one in the NFL with Tennessee and Washington. Actually, know Tennessee pretty well as I've coached there a few times. Paul's a cool dude and I believe in what he's building. I had to be a part of this...

      Pitt's administration on the other hand will just not fully pay for continued athletic excellence. I'm a believer of looking at Pitt as an phenomenal university, one with top notch people, environments, academics, and athletics. Looking at the whole picture places Pitt as a great place to be, and there are many people who have grown from and care dearly for it...but still decisions dictated by uncompetitive resources will not win football games in the future...we're in the ACC now, we have extra money to prop up our football program including: coaches, staff, recruiting, etc). just listen to the Pitt vibe for once in your life Nordy/Steve and stop making decisions alone, for some big donor, or people who don't understand our city (Back to the Pitt Script).

      This needs to end fast. I was disappointed in the House hire, but specifically from an administration standpoint. House could turn out to be a great hire, and don't listen to any nonsense about recruits not liking him. He can recruit and he always should have been a part of the Pitt future (imo opinion Poteat+Palermo+House>Huxtable now and in the long run: style temperament, skill, potential, etc.). I'm sure he'll take his lumps, but at some point the money has to be there!! (If Pitt is truly to be IT in football again). Until then, the bitchers, whiners, and moaners need to support their university, put some booties in the seats, give back, stop sitting on their hands, do something positive.

      Pitt is a special place for all that it offers. Really is. The athletic dept. needs a boost and we owe it to them.

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    2. Sorry, but I'm not drinking the koolaid...
      High Schools have hired better HC than House.
      heck, I didn't even like House as the DB coach when he was announced last year.

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  26. So in House we have a guy who was not even a full position coach his last 5 years in the NFL. A glorified videotape quality control guy now somehow qualified to be defensive coordinator?

    What has he done to earn this?

    What on his resumes scream DC?

    Who else other than Pitt would have hired this guy as a DC?

    unreal, just unreal

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    1. Please, like I told Joe D., look up the responsibilities of a QC coach. Video guys film practices and import them into the system. They have no responsibiliity with breaking down film or game-planning.

      Again, don't care if you question the hire, but don't take Joe D.'s word as gospel.

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  27. Bad hire. JR House is just going to quit football and head straight back to baseball.

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  28. Well I will start by saying that I would liked to have seen a big name with a great resume get the job. whatever the issue it is irrelevant, while I enjoy watching the Penguins, the Pirates and the Steelers, Pitt has always been my first priority. Believe me when I say it has been very difficult but my family was raised on Pitt and at this point I cannot change. I have seen some of the best games and players of all time, and some of the worst also. I don't consider it drinking the koolaid. it's just what I do. Kinda like the the Pirates I will be there in early September hoping that this is the year, if 60,000 more show up maybe some good players will follow. After all many on here have said its not the x's and o's but the jimmy and joes. Have some faith and Hail to Pitt

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  29. What a crappy BB game so far... 6min in... 5-1.

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    1. 22-19 at the half... worst game I've seen in a long time.

      I didn't know there was a FOOTBALL game at the Pete tonight!
      They decided to play football tonight instead of basketball.

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  30. Well, the spring game should be a blast......offense should look really good.

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  31. I like two of the three hires, in order of preference. Hank Poteat - 10 years in the nfl, regardless of statistics says alot. Most athletes don't stick around the league for 10 years, period. Second, he is from Harrisburg which should help recruiting in that area greatly. Third, I am not sure of his work ethic, but he obviously takes care of himself and knows the secondary. He is the diamond in the rough with this class.

    Palermo - solid resume', good recruiter who will give at least 3-5 years of stability on the d-line. His breadth of experience obviously allows for the release of Inoke. Once that occurs, Poteat can be promoted. Right now, it is a numbers game.


    House, I think this is okay. Look, PSU hired John Butler who was coaching special teams as their new DC. Point being, you must rely on the head coach. Coach Chryst does not want to fail, despite what everyone thinks. This is akin to yelling at a kid for striking out with the bases loaded and your team is losing by one. The kid doesn't go to the plate wanting to strike out. The kid wants to be successful. Same applies to Coach Chryst. Cut him some slack and Pitt becomes very succesful.

    I concur with the writer above who indicates that the game day experience may be valuable when it comes to a kid matriculating to a campus. Pitt really needs an on-site campus no matter how many folks think otherwise. Sure, keep practicing at the South Side facilities and share with the Steelers, but please, get your own place and create your own traditions. Outside of a GTech game every once in awhile, Pitt will be the only ACC school that doesn't have an on-site stadium. Want to blame someone, look no further than your AD. He is the reason Pitt sports is where it is today and why you are all complaining. And one last jab at the AD. Pitt could have had Austin had the purse strings been loosened. That said, let's support the three solid hires. Recruit, recruit, recruit.

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    1. Butler was a small school DC for 2 years and coached in major college football for 6 years. Overall he's been a college coach since 1999. The situation is not even remotely similar.

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    2. Chris, you can complain about the hire or support it. Throwing negative vibes is not gonna help sign those 14 WPIAL kids you wrote about a couple of weeks ago. PC just signed a class where he kept some major home grown talent here at home. Its not drinking the kool-aid to support your team and hope it does well.

      This was PC's hire and he doesn't have to justify it to us. House may just be a rising star on the fast track to success. The last DC may have left because he saw the threat that House was. Yeah, I have the rose colored glasses on but I'm gonna support these hires.

      Just remember that Tomlin interviewed with the Steelers to get practice interviewing. What was Beilsma's backgroud before he took over the Pens. I know these situations aren't the same. There are people out there in all walks of life who can do the job but the only thing they lack is "experience". Graham had a ton of experience getting the most out of smaller programs. How'd that turn out for Pitt?

      Lets give PC the benefit of the doubt. Give him a few more recruiting classes. He showed his loyalty to Pitt. Lets show him some now. If he doesn't turn it around by 2016. I'll be right behind you with the pitchfork to help run him out of town.

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    3. 1. I'm not a cheerleader for Pitt. I tell the truth, as I see it. People can agree with me or not agree with me, but I leave the cheerleading to the websites who won't say anything bad about Pitt for fear of losing access.

      2. If House was so great, Chryst would have promoted immediately.

      3. The defensive staff is very inexperienced as it is, so to make the DC inexperienced, too, is a big mistake, in my opinion.

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    4. Very well said indeed. I can't stand the cheerleaders. People need to speak their mind, good or bad and when its bad, criticize this administration accordingly.

      House was never originally considered. As you note, if he was so great, he would have been promoted immediately instead of waiting over 2 months to do so

      And yes, we have a high school coach with now just 1 year of college coaching coaching the LBs, a woefully inadequate and inexperienced Inoke coaching the DL and now a DC who has no DC experience and a really weak overall resume. Unreal

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  32. Palermo is pretty much a journeyman at this point. With social media a big part of recruiting these days it's not ideal to have a 60-year old. And the peak of his career is clearly long past. He doesn't excite me either. Not that he's awful but a young up and comer with recruiting ties in a known hotbed would make more sense. But hey he coached at Wisconsin so that's all that matters

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    1. Palermo is a step up from Breckerfield...
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    2. My frustration with Pitt athletics is almost overwhelming. NOTHING they do makes sense to outsiders. There don't make logical choices. How can Coach Chryst honestly defend taking nearly three months to promote a position coach with absolutely NO experience.

      Not only that, just when you think Pitt is poised to take over the BE they drop two straight ugly games. Lose a 16-point lead at home. Wake me up when Pederson is gone. Hopefully then there will be some accountability.

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    3. Yeah, imagine that, they're following the WI blueprint. I know I'm stunned...not. And somehow that's a bad thing!!??!!

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    4. What's up with the constant non-stop cheap shots at WI Chris? You jealous or something? Not flashy enough for you. Or wait, maybe it's because the way they do things completely flies in the face of how you feel it should be done.

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    5. When exactly did I trash Wisconsin? I must have missed that.

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  33. When PC needs to fire some coaches on this staff, will it take him 2-3 years to make the decision? Then again, I'm sure SP will be what he is good at.....meddling.

    This defensive staff is going to cost PC dearly.

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  34. Chris, any tweets from the Pitt players today? While I wouldn't expect any negative tweets, maybe the lack of positive tweets would also say something loud and clear.

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  35. Although it is not really fair to judge this hire until we see how it plays out it is a recipe for potential disaster. Randy Shannon and Todd Orlando were out there for the taking. Both would have been great hires and good recruiting assets. Christ seems way to focused on the safe hire of people he knows and has worked with personally. I am not a big fan of these additions. Lets hope for the best. Everyone has to start from somewhere so maybe it will be a hidden gem. We are talking about Pitt Football though so I wont hold my breath.

    On to this horrible basketball game. Will Dixon every change his game plan against ND? This is one of the worst performances I have ever seen. Dixon is a great guy and good coach but I think we need a change ( if we can land Sean Miller). I dont think Dixon will ever get Pitt to the final 4. I hope i'm wrong but I dont see us ever having a better group then the Blair and Sam Young crew that lost to Nova. Elite teams dont go up 19-3 at home and lose. Pathetic performance.

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  36. I turned on the Pitt v ND basketball game...
    but a football game broke out!!

    unbelievably poor game.. both teams.

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  37. Who on this staff will actually recruit? Is it pretty much down to Rudolph and Engram?

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    2. I'm sure he will, it's just that being a coordinator plus being a positional coach doesn't leave much time/effort for recruiting. And his replacement is a GA who isn't even legally allowed to recruit off campus.

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  38. PATHETIC. That game was an absolute disgrace. The entire team, including Dixon, should be embarrassed and hold their heads in shame. Bunch of heartless bums.

    1. Got murdered on the glass - clear indication of lack of effort / interest.
    2. Can't capitalize on ND having 3 points at the 7 minute mark of the first half. WTF, go for the jugular and bury them.
    3. Patterson and Moore were terrified to shoot when it mattered. Combined they had to have passed up at least 7 wide open 3's (not that they likely would've hit them, but come on).

    Venting complete.

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    1. I just spent two hours venting on twitter. There's nothing worse than a lack of effort.

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    2. If you can't get up for your biggest remaining home game of the season, 2 days after getting taken to the woodshed at Marquette, you have zero heart and poor leadership. I know I am fired up and frustrated right now, but good grief, this team looks more likely to poop the bed from here on out than to win a couple games in NYC and in the NCAA's. Probably will end up in the middle, 10-8 in the BE and lose their first game in NYC (and in the NCAA's if that finish is good enough to get them in). I could easily see them taking an L at St. John's and at home to Nova if someone doesn't step up and start playing like they care.

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    3. I must say, I have posted here only once, but that game necessitates a post. I can tolerate losing a game. However, the lack of interest and/or passion is intolerable. I'm sure they care (they are playing D-1, they better), but it just did not show tonight. And, more concerning, that interest has not shown in other spurts/games. Frustrating to watch.

      Also, Chris, has there been a player in the past decade that has been as frustrating to watch as Patterson? One game, he looks like one of the better players in the Big East. The next, he looks (as stated above) disinterested. He needs to be a leader on this team, and the lack of consistency is maddening.

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    4. Patterson was absolutely terrible the first 5min..
      He past up 3 open looks..
      then continued doing that the rest of the game... Dixon should have benched him!!
      Dixon needs to change the starting lineup... put in those that are hungry..

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    5. It's the same with Woodall. Neither are leaders. Leaders don't disappear when needed.

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  39. What a terrible day for Pitt athletics.

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  40. Chris is this bad recruiting on Dixons part or just bad coaching, but we never have a true scorer? Carl Krauser is the last guy I can think of that scored points. I do have a poor memory so I may need help!

    Or is this the player he wants? Seems like most of the recruits we are looking at do not have offensive skills!! What the hell!!

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  41. Chryst's promotion of House is typical of his whole schizophrenic coaching persona. Lose to Youngstown State, beat Va Tech, etc. Most of us were glad he stayed but the jury is still out on his skill as a head coach. Dixon's heyday is over. His style of basketball is just plain ugly. Just as Doke expressed earlier, it's the way Pitt operates. Dixon isn't going anywhere. We live with it.

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  42. The bloggers over at Pittblather seem to think Dixon's coaching ruins scorers. The Big 12 football teams score more points than Dixon's listless offense.

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  43. This team is about as soft as they come. I see more hustle, determination and desire in the pick up games I play in...notre dame gets these big farm boy lugs from somewhere in the mid west but they show up and play hard every game despite their physical limitations. Somewhere dejaun Blair, jerome lane nd Sam Clancy are hanging their heads in shame...now those guys could rebound...

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    1. Could not agree more. I don't think coaching is the problem. The players are just soft, and thats not something thats easy to change from a coaching prospective. Nobody has that "give me the ball" mentality.

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    2. A couple of articles ago by Doke - "A Great Day for Pitt Athletics"....yesterday, with House named the DC and a horrible loss by the BB team...not so much.

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    3. The problem is... pass, pass, pass...
      It appears the players have fear... if they don't pass first... they go to the bench.
      Dixon himself said at pressor last night... we are at times tooooo unselfish that we passed up open looks tonight.
      Sorry, but that philosophy is on Dixon.
      First 5 min of the game I was yelling at the tv... shoot the damn ball.
      Last year... Gibbs was the problem... nobody was allowed to shoot except him...
      The style of play is not going to make it very far in the ACC which is an up and down game.

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  44. After listening to Dixon...
    I think the issue is "overcoaching"...
    the players are good...
    they seem to be thinking toooo much instead of playing... that is on the coach...
    Best play of the game is Adams dribbling the length of the floor for a layup.

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  45. House on thefan just blamed everyone for the compass bowl loss for defense when asked if that performance would hurt his chances of getting promoted. He wouldn't accept responsibility. Thoughts Chris?

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  46. Dixon overcoaches because his assistants are terrible. They do nothing, so he has to do everything. The offense is too stagnant. It's ball screen after ball screen after ball screen while the other 3 guys stand around. Maybe he needs an OC.

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  47. Also, Talib Zanna is borderline useless right now. He really needs to play less. Maybe move Moore to 3 and Patterson to 4 since he tends to rebound more

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  48. The lack of effort is inexcusable! Every team has poor shooting nights, games where the bunnies don't fall, etc. One thing that should be consistent is effort. I really feel for The Zoo. They show up night-in-and-night-out and create an amazing atmosphere only for the team to play disinterested. I don't know if it is a lack of confidence, leadership or combination of many things but I crave for the days Troutman, Blair, Fields, Knight, Jaron Brown and so on. Those guys brought the toughness every time they stepped on the floor. Maybe Dixon just needs to let this team play, make some mistakes, take some chances, I don't know. I just hope that whoever is recruited in the near future, their player bio reads with words such as "tough," "hard-noised," and "work ethic" regardless of the stars next to their names.

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  49. Georgia Tech just approved a 3yr contract for Ted Roof, DC, for $550k/yr or 1.65million.
    Roof was at PSU for 2012 season...
    Georgia Tech is in ACC...
    I'm not saying Pitt needs to spend $550... but at least 400k would have got you Randy Shannon... Look at Roof's resume then look at House... smh...
    GT hires a former HC and someone who has been a DC for 10+ years at various schools..
    Pitt hires someone who was the videoguy just 13 months ago.

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  50. Chris, how important is that 2014 recruiting class for Jamie Dixon? Lots of schollies to give out, and given that he's really missed badly on the likes of Patterson, Woodall, Zanna, Wright, et al.....if he fails with that recruiting class, that could really spell the doom of PItt hoops, couldn't it?

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    1. He still has 2 schollies to give for 2013...
      So, I would say... depends on how he completes the 2013 class.
      He has 4 scholarships for 2014...

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    2. Combine the two, then. These next two recruiting classes are critical.

      The last several recruiting classes haven't been nearly good enough. Adams looks like he'll be good eventually, and Robinson SHOULD improve....but every other player on this team is average at best, and really lacking the toughness (mentally and physically) that Pitt players used to have that made up for their lack of skill.

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    3. Joe...after last night's game Jamie may have 4 schollies to give :-)

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  51. Estimate how much of a raise that Coach House will receive. IMO it will go a long way to seeing how bad Pitt wanted a legit D Coordinator.

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  52. I am beginning to think some of these posters are really Steve Pederson. Believing showing up at Heinz and having faith will bring victories is so inane only a homer for the AD could come up with it. Criticize Doke for being negative means that you have a personal investment in keeping the status quo - which if you haven't noticed - is a cut about mediocre. We want analysis on this board, not blind, pro Pitt crap. Take that over to pittblather where a number of guys follow Steve Pederson like little lap dogs. Chryst had a losing record last season and several times his team didn't even show up. So you want to have blind faith in that? Get off your knees and start thinking.

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    1. You must be thinking of Scout.com....that sure isn't the sentiment over at Blather.

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  53. This is like me turning in half my office work to an intern. I would be laughed out the door.

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  54. Wow I am so amazed that there seems to be so much more knowledge on this blog about hiring a coach than people who actually coach.
    It's on the internet so must be true!!!!

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    1. There are many people on this blog that have experience in hiring and firing people (I know I have). It's the same process whether your hiring a DC or a sales manager or any other managerial position.

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  55. Doke
    Something I have noticed recently that has me somewhat concerned about how much help dixons assistants really are. In the early days I noticed during timeouts that the coaches would talk for a minute together before heading into the huddle with the players.
    These days I see Dixon going straight into the huddle with the players and the coaches are just miilling around on the perimeter with their hands in the pockets looking up at the crowd.
    Do you think Dixon is a man on an island with this team, or is he getting some kind of assistance from the other coaches?

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    1. I do think his assistants are suspect, but he's the one that hired them. He misses people like Rohrssen, Lombardi, and Herrion, who are good coaches who really helped support Dixon. No clue why he hired Barton when there were better options out there. And Knight only gets raves from Pitt fans because he was a good player so the fans assume he's a good coach, too.

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  56. Wow what a real joke this pitt administration is and coach chryst is a laughing stock. Alverez made it known that he didn yt want chryst and I see why now. After tyler boyd started to waiver we did not pick up not 1 recruit we where finalist for. Unless these kids dont recuit there buddies pitt will not land a top recruiting class until this administration gets it the fuck together. It cost money to be a top program.

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  57. Chris,

    what if the plan is to get House on the cheap and then heap more responsibility on Palermo to be there as kind of a back-up or mentor to him? I don't think the blame could be entirely laid on the Pitt AD as Chryst has got to have some say so in the matter? I mean I can't see the Pitt AD demanding that Chryst go out and hire a guy with one year of experience under his belt.

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  58. Then hire Palermo as DC, his resume is one where you could make a case for DC...the only way you could make a case for House would have been as an up and coming hot-shot assistant (see Malzahn), but that wasn't the case with him.

    As far as hoops assistants go, there isn't a good one in the bunch and I've been saying that for a few months now. Maybe he should hire Ziegler in the off-season. Also, about 5 years ago, Pitt was home to the "Most Improved Player" award...since he's hired these guys, that is not the case anymore

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  59. Really disappointed in all the fans and "bloggers" for Pitt. Man, we have become a bunch of whiny cry-babies over the years. Perhaps, we should see if we can get some of the PSU settlement money intended for their victims,cause that is how a bunch of you come off. Whatever happened to giving a guy a fair shot? Come on, you are all so quick to jump to negativity that he will fail, HCPC doesn't know what he is doing, this hire was Pederson induced cause of cheapness, that i am embarrassed to be associated with a bunch of Pitt fans like you. Give the guy a few games, if you are real fans, you give him a season or two to see how he will be. Everyone needs a shot or an opportunity to see what they are made of and like it or not, House is getting his, so lets support him; more importantly the players who chose our beloved institution, rather than be so freakin pessimistic! H2P!

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    1. Koolaid drinkers to the left...
      Just some facts...
      - Chryst went 6-7 in his first season... lost to ysu, etc where you one of those expecting 8-4 in regular season, coach'em up, etc?? How did that work out.
      - Lots of other experienced DC's that could have been hired.
      - House is NOT an up and commer... just 13 months ago he was the videoguy!!!

      wait a few years??? Chryst will be gone after 2 more seasons.

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    2. Some other facts:
      * You are wrong a lot
      * Shell isn't Marcus Dupree
      * Foster didn't go to Michigan, UT, or wherever else you had him going
      * Chryst can recruit
      * Chryst can "Coach em up" to some extent (ie. Shanahan, Hendricks, Sunseri, Street)

      I don't know why you try and predict things. It's not working out well for you.

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    3. Eric...
      LOL...
      1. I'm right... Shell isn't Marcus Dupree... Compare the frosh stats... then lets see how Shell does as soph.
      2. I'm wrong on Foster... but he didn't go to Pitt.. even prior to his announce I thought he was going to Pitt... so I was wrong all around.
      3. Chryst and crew can't recruit. Your kidding me if you think the 2013 class is great!!
      4. Chryst... coach em up... no better than any other coach. Chryst went 6-6 which is what I forecasted at the beginning of the season.

      2013 forecast... 6-6 is a stretch.

      Seriously, you think Chryst is doing a good job... you are living in lala land.

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    4. I forgot to add... shell is very Dupree like... he got suspended his 1st game!!

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  60. Point of order: It's not really 100% true to say that House has zero experience as a DC because, lest we forget, he shared acting-DC duties with Chris Haering for the annual Pitt (errrrr, BBVA Compass...) Bowl! So if my math is right, he has 3.8% of a single season's worth of experience.

    Oh, by the way, how did Pitt's defense fare against Ole Miss in that game? I seem to recall it looked more like a track meet than a defensive battle, especially in the 2nd half.

    And we can't even blame Tino Sunseri for THAT aspect, because he doesn't play defense.

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  61. Watched Indiana and Michigan state game last night and also the ucla and Stanford game this past Saturday. Man, they play a whole different game than what we play here in pittsburgh. They run up and down that court and shoot so fast it looks like they Are just playing pick up ball. What an entertaining style of play. I know it's hard for people to change. Hell, it just took me 25 years to shave my 1985 style Magnum P.I. Mustache, but if me and Ben how land can change I am sure Jamie Dixon can too. Please coach get this Pitt style of play out of the stone ages...

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    1. What is with mustaches in Pittsburgh...
      Guys still have that 70's/80's retro look... lol
      I think Pittsburgh has more mustaches per male than anywhere in the US.
      I had one... shaved it off late 80's.

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    2. Because some other person on a blog said he has one? Or, maybe because a former Pitt coach that has lived in Pittsburgh for about 5 of the last 20 years has one? You say you don't even live in Pittsburgh. You live in fashion-forward NJ, right?

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    3. The question is how many still have mullets...

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  62. Getting a feeling that Chandler Kincade might flip to Rutgers

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    1. I think Kincade should do as many unofficial visits as he can this summer... then re-announce in September.
      He selected early..
      It is a strategy many top players do these days (perhaps not as early as Kincade though)... but they announce and keep looking.
      I would recommend doing your homework... announce by end of September and stick with it... unless coaching change, etc.

      Here is a question, could Geep Chryst and Keller Chryst be a package deal for some big time team??? Geep is a legitimate coach.

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    2. Not happening. Kincade's recruiter for Rutgers, Darnell Dinkins, just left the program. Kincade has been a Pitt fan his whole life (nicknamed Chan Marino by family). If Pitt would somehow land Keller Chryst, Kincade might flip, but it will be somewhere better than Rutgers.

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    3. Joe - fully agree. Do it now through Labor Day, like many other HS kids (athletes or not). Then hunker down and have a productive, fin senior year. Hold back on the public stuff until after Thanksgiving (and stay in touch with the school of his choice - hopefully Pitt - until LOI day.

      And to top it off the right way, no press conference... and if he has to do one, do it on LOI day.

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  63. Chris, is there any way you can find out which of these two likely scenarios was behind this, at best, this risky and questionable decision?

    Possibility #1 - That ADSP gave HCPC enough money to hire a proven and qualified coordinator, but our shiny new head coach is so, what? paranoid? that he couldn't force himself to hire one that he hadn't already work with sometime in the past?

    Possibility #2 - That Stevie-P gave Chryst such a laughably low salary range that no self-respecting DC candidate would take it? In other words, Pitt was outbid by that national powerhouse Utah State Aggies?

    For full disclosure, I suppose there is a Possibility #3: That Matt House is a can't-miss rising star just waiting for the chance to break wide open and surprise us all, and we'll all see that come Labor Day (against Villanova, please, and not FSU, just in case...).

    I'm not saying choice #3 cannot be true, but as an admitted distant observer, I just don't know of any evidence to support it. I do hope to be proven wrong.

    Here's what I do know: PC better be right (if it's Choice #1 ... or 3), because if not these kinds of personnel decisions can be program cripplers & job killers. HIS job too.

    HTP!

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    1. Imma,

      I'd like to know how this DC search was conducted also, and if it was Chryst wanting to work with someone with whom he was familiar, or if it was Pitt not being willing to open the purse strings for an experienced DC. Possibly it was a combination of both.

      I hope Coach Chryst is willing to hire folks with whom he might not be overly familiar, but are the best people for the job. I worked with someone who mainly hired people he knew, rather than the most qualified person, and it was a disaster.

      I don't know if Nordenberg or Pederson were reluctant to spend the money, but it wouldn't surprise me. To be the best, you need the best people, and that comes with a price tag.

      I hope this works out, but I'm very skeptical that this was the right move. If House tanks as the DC, Coach Chryst, etc will have to be held accountable. Hopefully, House is a star in the making.



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    2. A fourth scenerio is: HCPC looked at a number of candidates. He wasn't enamored with the candidates' coaching/recruiting philosophies. HCPC decided to promote from within. HCPC brought in Palermo (who didn't want the added workload of DC) to act as a mentor to the defensive staff.

      See, I can make crap up just like Joe, Imma, Joe, Chi, Joe and everyone else. My crap makes just as much sense.

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  64. Pitt Blather just did an analysis of every coach on Pitt's staff.
    Every coach either:
    - coached with Chryst
    - played for Chryst when he was coach
    - recommended by Geep..
    - recommended by Chryst's father..
    Even 2 GA's are from wisky and played for Chryst.
    The only 2 that don't fit.. are GA Whipple and GA Poteat.
    Wow..
    Not good in my opinion... variety is good... group think is not.

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    1. Group think is not. Yeah its not good to have every coach on the same page, what the hell are you talking about? I don't like the house promotion much either but give me a break. You posted before that you will protest by not buying tickets and staying away from Pitt I hope you do. Good riddance.

      I think whats lost in these hires is that Palmero is a good hire. House had a a good secondary going, he has recruited well, and he was a large contributor of the special teams which performed well. But I can understand the angst which I share in most capacities.

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    2. Joe, with your sheer volume of repetitive comments you have created a large cloud of groupthink. From the outside, it appears normally impervious as well.

      Despite that, allow me to suggest that perhaps Chryst likes different viewpoints - people who tell him like it is and not what they think he wants to hear - and that's why he chose the guys he did. I have no idea if this is the case, but then again none of us do.

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    3. Chi,
      Bringing in outside ideas, techniques, training philosophies, etc learned from other staffs, people, etc is a good thing..
      That is variety...
      Group think... only 1 way to do it... and its the Wisky way per Chryst!!!

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    4. Joe Lawrence, I highly doubt Joe D sways many, if any people. I rarely agree with him, but when I do, it's because I've thought about the issue and happen to agree with him.

      If anything, I'd bet he drives most people into the opposing point of view.

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    5. Fully agree Dan. Also concur with your concerns as expressed to Imma above. Easy to hire a friend, hard to fire them. I never hire anyone with whom I am personal friends.....not only would canning them be tough, but they'd never take me seriously at the office!!!

      It sounds like he guided Huxtable out the door, so perhaps he's able to deal with it. We'll see...should make for an interesting year.

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  65. Chris, I miss your brutally honest analyses that you used to post here after every Pitt game, win or loss. Is Twitter the best way to follow you at this point? I still check the blog daily but I noticed fewer posts than before.

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    1. did the j-man do it or did the j-man do it?!

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    2. The J-man did it!! HA HA HA

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  66. With all the big guys he is recruiting, is it not right for HCPC to "Bringing the House down"?

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  67. House is an unknown. A guy with little experience and yes he's watched video. That is pretty much the knock on him. I get that. I think he was a part of the future staff in the longer run so in that perspective I'm glad to have him. I also get that this administration better get it's braintrust out of it's ass and support our Pitt football squad. When one's building something, like a home, a business, a marriage, whatever meaningful, it doesn't happen in a day. It could happen quickly if you're lucky, but usually you got to grab that shovel and dig. That's what Chryst is doing. Trust is critical at this juncture digging foundation. Continuity is significant with a Huge recruiting year upon us. That's the good. The bad, is our administration is showing shit money. (Step it up! Written in script). Although, moving to the ACC for our first year of membership, a solid 2012 recruiting class, a great home slate, Pederson's swansong in the near future, etc. = a lot to be thankful for...

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    1. Our recruiting class will not be helped by these recent hires and the stadium won't fill up when this team starts losing no matter who the opponent is (except ND). I went to the brawl in its second to last year with Pitt being terrible and the stadium was mostly WVU fans. This hire proves the administration does not care about football. Unlike the PIrates who at least have a business reason to be terrible, Pitt has no reason not to fork over a few hundred grand extra for an experience DC. Where the heck is the ACC money going?

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  68. From today's Roanoke, VA times: Had a Pitt comment:

    Curington, a 6-foot-4 shooting guard, committed to DePaul earlier this month.

    He is one of five Oak Hill seniors who have made oral commitments, joining point guard Nate Britt (North Carolina), small forward Troy Williams (Indiana), shooting guard Sindarius Thornwell (South Carolina) and combo guard Ike Iroegbu (Washington State).

    A sixth Oak Hill player, 6-8, 230-pound Lennard Freeman from the Washington, D.C., area, originally had planned to spend one year at Oak Hill and then take a postgraduate year elsewhere. However, North Carolina State and Pittsburgh want him for the 2013-2014 season.

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    1. Pitt needs frontcourtmen badly. Next year, all they have are Adams and Zanna, with Moore and natural freshman Mike Young as back-ups.

      Just hope and pray Adams stays at least 1 more year.

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    2. I highly doubt Adams is going anywhere. He has said so himself. I realize 18-19 year olds change their minds often, but it appears he is trying to get comfortable at Pitt before moving on to his highly pressurized pro career. People are saying his girlfriend is also enrolling at Pitt. Why would she do that unless he plans on staying. I have seen no evidence, including his lack of consistency on the court, to suggest he won't stay at Pitt another year.

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    3. $2.5 million plus bonus for mid-to-later 1st round NBA pick ... mighty enticing for anyone, let alone a kid who grew up with 18 siblings.

      Certainly hope it doesn't happen and agree that another year or two in college will improve his status and his game ... but still $2.5 million. (I know what I would have porbably done when I was 19 and I only hae 1 sister)

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    4. I hear you, and I'm not saying it isn't possible. $2.5M is a lot to anyone, especially someone who grew up w/o much. But, isn't he the youngest or nearly the youngest of the 18 in his family? Does he have to take care of them all? Maybe they grew up poor, but maybe it is also true that some have worked their way out of that situation and are encouraging him NOT to take the immediate pay day. IDK, but that's my hope, anyway.

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  69. Kincade is a lot less committed to Pitt than you think. He is VERY interested in Rutgers because they don't have a QB to put out there after Nova, who makes Sunseri look like Marino. He has a really good chance of playing early at Rutgers. He is supposed to visit Tennessee and Alabama in the next week or two and just got an offer from Temple. Rutgers is on him HARD!!!!!

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    1. Biamonte will be RS frosh...
      from Manalapan... saw him play in HS.. he is a "running" QB. More suited for RB than QB as he ran early and often in HS.
      Yes, Kincade can be a starter early at Rutgers.. he can beat out Biamonte.

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    2. Kincaide is not going anywhere, unless Pitt actually does land Chryst's nephew, which seems unlikely. Kincaide's skills fit what Chryst is trying to do at Pitt, and Chryst is recognized as very strong at developing QB's. Rutgers and Temple do not have any track record of developing QB's. Payton Manning is pushing 40 now, and is about 3 coaching staffs removed from being developed by Tennessee. Is Alabama really going to reach all the way to PA for a QB that has very good, but not necessarily elite potential? Everything is doom and gloom with you guys.

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    3. I just said he was visiting those places. The fact Rutgers is on him hard and he is VERY interested is a FACT!!! I agree Chryst develops QB...but he looks at Rutgers and sees that he might not sit, where at Pitt, there's Voytik, Chapman, and maybe another QB. Don't shoot the messenger!

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    4. You say his interest in Rutgers is a fact. Other people say it isn't. Regardless, everyone with options has to consider what's best for himself. I think the Pitt program wants kids that have options. In the end, some of them will exercise those options and seek greener pastures, and some of them will consider the alternatives and realize the coach at Pitt just helped Russell Wilson immensely in one short season. I say Kincaide stays unless Chryst's nephew chooses Pitt. Rutgers could just as easily attract another equally talented QB for the very reasons you mentioned, and Kincaide would be right back where he started - except with a lesser coach in terms of developing pro style QBs. He expects to face competition anywhere. We'll see.

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    5. Kincade doesn't even have Buttgers listed as a school of interest on Scout...

      http://pittsburgh.scout.com/a.z?s=141&p=8&c=1&nid=5425400

      But on Rivals he has Butters & Temple...

      http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Chandler-Kincade-126041;_ylt=ArDgDde3fzweAXZWz8T3OlhDPZB4

      ~Jackagain

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  70. Chris Peak is a homer...
    Article about coaching selection... has the handprints of EJ with all the spin.... and Peak just cut and paste...
    Ridiculous article and I hope Peak doesn't consider himself a journalist.

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    1. And he made it free content...
      so all the Pitt fans can read that piece of BS...
      written by EJ..
      smells of desparation of EJ...

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    2. Joe, quit reading it if you think it's garbage. It's fairly simple. The same thing most people do with everything you post actually.

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    3. Peak is clearly part of some SP-driven conspiracy. Tinfoil hats, everyone!

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  71. Joe d you have to read the one comment some said though. Not Peak. The person said chryst may be bringing some competition to the defensive staff. Has palermo ever coached Linebackers? Your favorite coach Inoke may be on the hot seat in my mind and I know your mind too

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  72. Just checked the NBA mock drafts again for the next two years. In 2013 Adams is no where to be found but there is big Steve sitting at #15 in 2014.
    Yes the front court needs help and lots of it. If he decides to test his luck in the dradt this year then it's CBI time again next year.
    I get a little concerned recruiting for next year this late in the game. I don't know what is left out there at this point but I do know the old saying of how the girls get pretty the closer it gets to closing time is true.
    At this point they should probably sit tight on any new offers until next fall...

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    1. The one person who knows how Adams feels, what he wants to do, and actually gets to make this decision is Adams ... And the one person some people don't want to listen to in regards to Adams' future ... is Adams! He said he has no interest in going to the NBA yet. I realize kids can change their minds at the drop of a hat, but this is a kid who made a commitment to Pitt from a world away, and kept that commitment. He seems to be enjoying the college life at Pitt quite a bit. Now, suddenly, we can't trust what he is telling us? Anything COULD happen, but talk about looking for things to worry about.

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    2. Rich, if Pitt doesn't get their heads out of their collective behinds it may be CBI(more likely NIT)time THIS year.

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  73. On the surface... Chryst's decision to promote House to DC looks like a really dumb move.

    You're a first-time HC coming off of a six and seven season and what do you do? You hire a another rookie to head up your defense.

    Despite all the growing pains the Pitt defense went through last year, the one thing that Huxtable gave Chryst was some solace in knowing a seasoned veteran was in control on the other side of the ball. This freed Chryst up to focus his attention on the offensive side of the ball.

    Now, Chryst could be saddled with stepping in on the defensive side should House struggle there in addition to coaching up a first-time starting QB.

    Really dumb, even if House ends up being a success.

    PittofDreams

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  74. JoeD and the rest of you whining Panther "fans"

    The city of champions applies to our professional sports teams. College athletics should be a different animal. It should be about your school, your alma mater, your kid's school or alma mater, your friends and relatives who went there. You root for them because you know people who went there. You root for them because they are one of the best schools in the country. You root for them because they aren't Penn State. You root for them because they aren't toothless hillbillies from down south. You root for them because you want them to succeed!

    There are plenty of D1 colleges out there (with worse records than Pitt over the last 20 years) who pack their stadiums on gameday. We can't get 35k for VA Tech on a beautiful fall afternoon. I don't want to hear that crap about needing a field on campus. Heinz field is great. There are seats with backs. Its central to the suburbs. There is plenty of parking and public transportation. Do you know what it is
    like trying to find parking in Oakland.

    Pitt fans need to show up! It doesn't matter what the record is or who the DC is. If you can't show up for the games, maybe the best thing to do is drop the football program and join that new catholic b-ball league.

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    1. I said that...
      If Pitt isn't going to get serious with football... ala the DC hire, etc..
      Then drop football and join the Catholic 7 league!!

      But I'm not going to support a dysfunctional team and HC.
      Heck, I became a Yankee fan (live in NJ)... they do it right... they play to win the game... very similar to Steelers.

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  75. Right on on the part about attending games no matter what the outcomes. I attend every game and so does my father who is 82 years old.

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  76. @ 1 of the anonymous's - On field stadiums are critical for college football. Although I understand the Heinz Field expalantions, one need only look at the ACC and see who gets it and who doesn't. EVERY team in our new league has on-site facilities. When you have your own stadium, you can build traditions, you know, rub a rock, ride a horse, etc.

    Pitt does not have a commitment from executive leadership and the AD is so afraid of his own shadow, he won't try to force the issue from a competitive standpoint. Sports is all about advantages. How you get them within the rules is key. Pitt has great practice facilities, weight rooms, etc., but we lose when it comes to the gameday experience. Stadiums don't win you games however, but the gameday experience sure does help.

    Does anyone know how many seats are reserved for students for fbsll games? Whatever it is, Pitt should at the allocation and actually decrease the price for student tickets. Listen, if you aren't going to sell out the stadium with full price tickets, you may as well get as many kids in there as possible in hopes of creating a great experience. That is important to a recruit!

    This is not a whining post, but rather an "open your eyes leadership" post.

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    1. Students should be Free...
      I forget what I paid (if anything).. I think they were free... I would say some 10,000+ students showed up for every game.
      I remember having to show a student ID.. I use to borrow ID's of those not going to the game and bring some HS friends to the game.

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    2. Joe times has changed since the 80s. It is a multi million dollar industry. It was not like that back then. Paying 25$ for 8 games and a tee shirt??? That is highway robbery. Come on you act like 25$ is the world. Kids spend 40$ for just alcohol for the weekend. Buddy passes are just as easily to obtain so just admit here you are wrong. Pitt has bigger bandwagon fans than the pirates and thats a fact.

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    3. Not only was it Free... but you walked to the stadium.
      Students don't want to take a bus to a game...
      pain in the a$$...
      and how many students are at the games these days?? More students go BB games than football games... not because of win/loss... but convenience.

      and Anony is right.. Miami shares an off-campus stadium with Miami pro-team. Don't know how there attendance has changed.

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    4. I'm at the games at Heinz...There are WAY more that go to football than basketball. I would estimate about 5000-7000 students are there taking up about 8-10 sections of the stadium...its not the students who aren't showing up, its everyone else.

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  77. No doubt Heinz is a Terrible place to watch a college football game. it is expansive, stterile and boring. But Pitt jus doesn't have the space in Oakland for a football stadium. Even if they did, this is a pro town and they would not consistently sell the place out...
    You don't believe me? Watch what happens with the basketball crowds at the petersen events center after a couple of losing seasons. Heck, last year I got courtside seats for like 25 for the CBI. Games. It wa a great time for me and 1,500 of my closest friends.

    Jerry dipaula just treated that it looks like the FSU game is on for Labor Day evening. I will say this for coach Chryst, he has balls...got to give him credit for that...

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  78. Does Miami have its own facility?

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  79. Doke
    Responding to your tweet right now about Zanna's good production in the First part Of the season compared to his disappointing productin the last 12 games. In baseball terms he would be known as a AAAA player. Good enough for AAA but not good enough for the majors. Zanna is good enough for pre big east games but then production falls off in big east play with the big boys...

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  80. Ray graham is going to have a good pro day or he might not get drafted until the 5th-6th round after that forty time

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    1. It's Ray's lateral movement that sets him apart. Most had him mocked in the 5th-6th anyway.

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  81. Pitt played well at times... reverted back to old ways at times.
    - Zanna missed 2 layups..
    - Zieglar had 2 air balls on short shots
    - Foul shooting, foul shooting, foul shooting (58%)
    - Pitt was out rebounded (10 offensive rebounds by SJ) and won so I don't buy the rebounding story Dixon is selling as the problem. It may be part of it but Dixon dwells on it toooo much.
    Woodall had a great game but he is hot and cold.. streaky shooter.

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  82. Ray Graham with an unofficial 4.72 in 40 at NFL combine.
    I thought he was faster...
    Lets see the shuttle results...

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    1. Don't always run straight for 40 yds in a game, but lateral movements and ability to make cuts happen all the time that's Ray's strong suit.

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    2. Keep believing that..

      He is undersized and slow (after that 40)...
      don't confuse speed with quickness... he needs both if he wants to be a RB in NFL. At least 4.5 in 40 due to his short stature.

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  83. Yea quickness matters but he is clearly not outrunning anyone which like joe said he needs the speed for how small he is

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  84. I stand corrected about miami. I think they play in different venues, but if i recall, their attendance looks just like Pitt's in a professional stadium, which boosts my point. They sell other things (beach, ladies, ladies, ladies, weather and swagger) to high school utes (joe pesci). The point is they do not have a gmae day experience unless it is against fsu or undefeated. The other problem at Pitt/Heinz is that many patrons can move inside to box levels where they can watch the game in comfort. During a game there can be 10k people inside the stadium in boxes that are not in seats outside. A BIG problem as people observe on tv.

    Since Joe took the conversation to Ray Graham, it should be noted that he ran at a + 10 in weight from last year. This time next year, he will be completely healed from his surgery, unless there are set backs. Despite what he says about being 100%, he should have been advised by his agent (or someone in the know), to tell teams he is still not at 100% physically. At that point, they probably give him the benefit of the doubt. Declaring yourself at 100% health is not a good thing. Run first, then declare. Ray got it backwards this time.

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