Monday, February 25, 2013

Pitt's 2013 Football Schedule Released

Sept. 2 (Monday)-  Florida State
Sept. 14-  New Mexico
Sept. 21-  At Duke
Set. 28- Virginia
Oct. 12- at Virginia Tech
Oct. 19- Old Dominion
Oct. 26- at Navy
Nov. 2- at Georgia Tech
Nov. 9- Notre Dame
Nov. 16- North Carolina
Nov. 23- at Syracuse
Nov. 29 (Friday)- Miami

159 comments:

  1. Boy,what great bookends to the schedule.

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  2. Without a real feel for the team, I see a 500 record.

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  3. last 5 games are pretty tough

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  4. When will Homecoming be? ODU?

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  5. The good news is that there won't be many opportunities to play down to the competition.

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  6. 7 wins if they are lucky

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  7. Don't know what they'll finish, but I still say they need to finish 8-4.

    3-0 against ODU, Navy, New Mexico
    2-1 against Duke, Virginia, Syracuse
    1-2 against Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, North Carolina
    2-1 against Florida State, Notre Dame, Miami. PROTECT THE HOUSE!

    This great home schedule is worthless if Pitt craps the bed.

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  8. Florida State - loss
    New Mexico - win
    At Duke - win
    Virginia - win
    at Virginia Tech - loss
    Old Dominion - win
    at Navy - win
    at Georgia Tech - loss
    Notre Dame - loss
    North Carolina - win
    at Syracuse - loss
    Miami - loss

    I am predicting 6-6. I hope I am wrong!

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    1. I see Pitt beating Syracuse and pulling one upset among FSU/ND/UM. But I also see them getting upset once by Duke/UVa/Navy. I think the real wildcards and the key to the season's success are how they handle the Techs (VT/GT). Sweep em and its a great season. Split with em and its an OK season. Get swept and its a disappointing season.

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  9. i think 7-5 would be a good year for this team. half the roster will be freshman and right now there are unknowns at de, ol, qb, wr, and safety. i think savage will perform well at qb this year, though, but the ol will struggle against the better teams on this schedule. overall i like the way this defense is shaping up except for the lack of pass rushing ends and a replacement for holley. lets face it, if ray vinopal is a starting safety, pitts in big trouble. hes tiny and slow. i think that if pitt cleans up in the wpial in 2014 recruiting-wise, the 2014 and 2015 seasons are when well see chrysts team take form the way he envisioned them (hopefully)

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    1. Typical Pitt fan...always looking at next years team.

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    2. The problem with trying to say 2014 is going to be the year is that the 3 big games - Florida State, Notre Dame, Miami - are all on the road.

      I keep saying, Pitt's got to go 2-1 against that trio at home.
      The rest of the schedule is more manageable than many think.
      Be nice to see Pitt actually overachieve for once.

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    3. Won't have to play FSU at all next year. They're in the other division.

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    4. I may be wrong, but isn't the current plan is for everyone to play a home and home series?
      i.e. since Pitt drew Florida State this year, they play them again next year, then a different division team for 2015 and 2016

      I suppose if Pitt's Atlantic division road game next year is instead Wake Forest, that may change it a little bit.

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  10. What the heck Pitt fans, you complained about playing against a week Big East Schedule, screaming for a real college football schedule. Now you get a real college football schedule against great teams and now your complaining because of how hard the schedule is. WHAT DO YOU WANT! SHUT UP AND ENJOY GREAT COLLEGE FOOTBALL!

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    1. Spot on, Mark. Let's support the team...show up at games and stay till the end...like REAL fans do!

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  11. They should be 5-2 after the first seven games. But knowing Pitt, they will be 4-3. The last five games will determine the season. They can win any of the 5, and they can lose any of the 5.

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  12. With a new inexperienced DC and a new QB, this team will at best end up 5-7. If we are lucky and get a few bounces, perhaps 6-6.

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  13. This year is a jump up in difficulty but I expect Pitt to be better. what that translates to as to wins and losses I don;t know. Pitt needs another very good recruiting class and establish the kind of depth and competition to get better. This years will present a view of what HCPC can do as to the program and game day. There will be a surprise or two along the way, yet the schedule is just really good.

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  14. This is a win,win for pitt in terms of recruiting, with top end recruits if pitt loses they can state there case that with dedication if they commit here they can step right in. when they win they can sell national title hopes to recruits

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  15. With this schedule, I better not hear that House needs to learn on the job. He needs to be ready come September 2nd.

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  16. Florida State - loss
    New Mexico - win
    At Duke - win
    Virginia - win
    at Virginia Tech - loss
    Old Dominion - win
    at Navy - win
    at Georgia Tech - win
    Notre Dame - loss
    North Carolina - win
    at Syracuse - win
    Miami - win (why does everyone think miami is, "miami"

    9 - 3

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  17. An optimistic 8 and 4 with an asterisk.

    House is a big concern. He's already quoted as saying that unlike his predecessor you won't find him spending nights sleeping at the office. Huxtable was known to make a practice of pulling all-nighters prior to games.

    House says the successful coaches he knows are able to balance home life with work. Not one game under his belt and he's already the expert on what the job of DC entails.

    Big gamble by Chryst to select House while he himself is still trying to get the job of HC down. This year's schedule certainly doesn't improve the odds of success.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Very optimistic...
      Pitt could only muster 6-6 in 2012 with an easier schedule and better roster.
      If Pitt wins 6 games this year, that would be considered good in my opinion based upon the roster and tougher schedule.

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    2. My optimistic outlook takes into consideration "No Tino." Counting on Savage or Chapman or whomever having some ability to pull victory from the jaws of defeat rather than the other way around.

      Also counting on Tyler Boyd to have an impact as a playmaker. Believe we'll see him providing a speed factor both at wideout and in the backfield as part of specialty package of formations. Don't be surprised to see him carrying the ball at times, possibly out of the wildcat..

      PittofDreams

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  18. Not a big fan of the DC hiring, but am willing to give House a chance. He will really be under the gun come Labor Day

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    1. I would say Chryst will be under the gun for hiring House in the first place... not House. If the defense does poorly, everyone will say (including media)... House is a 1st year DC with very little coaching experience (videoguy just 12months ago)... bla bla bla...

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    2. Florida State does have a spotty offense, and they are replacing their QB.
      Should FSU rout Pitt, it will likely be because Pitt's offense went absolutely nowhere.

      Have to agree with Joe in that Chryst will be the one under the gun should the defense falter, since he apparently (at least publically) is the one who insisted on the controversial hire.

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    3. The one good things is that team experience really helps in the first few games. Remember vs YSU, Pitt had 9 new defensive starters.

      This year they'll have 9 returning starters. Still will be tough but at least they'll show up this time.

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    4. 9 starters that went 6-6 in Big East and a weak schedule and was blown out by Ole Miss... really doesn't tell me much on what will happen this year.
      On the otherhand, I think the offense looks promising with new QB and other new starters.

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    5. and what I'm saying is that in the early games, experience is more important than talent ... of course it is a degree of talent vs experience. But the chances are if Pitt D is going to do well vs FSU, it is a much better chance in the openeer than mid/late year

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  19. Not to be picky, but this is the 2013 schedule, not 2014.

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  20. Optimism? Pitt of Dreams comment that PC is still getting the head coaching job down while he promotes the DC who has little experience. Add that to the fact that we are in a new league that is faster and bigger. The law of averages is not in our favor.

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  21. You guys are aware that the Defensive Coordinator doesn't actually line up and play defense, right?

    Give the guy a chance. If they look completely lost or the scheme consistently is garbage, go ahead and complain. Until then, try to remember that House is on our side.

    This isn't a video game. 95% of the time, you're dealing with college players out of position, or your players are just plain not athletic enough to compete with the competition.

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    1. Sorry... but that is excuses...
      what you described in last sentence is poor coaching... or poor recruiting... or poor conditioning... or all 3 point to the coaches responsibility.

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  22. One need only understand Vegas bookmaker's when evaluating spreads. The team with the most returning starters is favored in over 80% of games.

    That said, over 90% of all statistics are made up.

    Glad to see Joe already blaming the coaches for all that is wrong next year. Coaches get more credit then they deserve when a team wins and take more blame when a team loses. Mike Tomlin didn't just stink all of a sudden. Recruiting is like the draft. Are the Steelers in trouble because of the coaching or because of the draft or because of the players? Interesting debate and the beauty of sport is that so much goes into winning and not winning that just can't be quantified with brash statements and predictions.

    There wasn't a mention of anyone's mile time in Indianapolis although shuttle and 20 times definitely were key to the analysis of players. Just sayin! Back on point though, great schedule put together by the ACC.

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  23. It takes a few years(at least 4) to build a solid foundation to become competitive consistently. We are (IMO) just starting on that track, though I think we had some pieces in place already. (players)
    Now we have a HC with a vision which we haven't had in 30 years. Let it play out and I think the outcome may surprise you, If you believe this is a make or break year I disagree it is only the beginning. We may lose them all, we may win more than we expect. I'm all in.

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    1. I agree. Look at RichRod when he was at WVU. Took at least 3 years before he was able to produce. Some of the fans on thi site think we should be BCS champs without having to go through a building process. I know it has been very frustrating for all of us over the last several years, but let's not lose site of the fact that a process is never smoothe. We need to have confidence in the people hired to be coaches. Let's get behind the coaches and the kids. That's what being a "fan" is all about!

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    2. Wrong Pittguy...
      RichRod 2nd season at WVU he was 9-4...
      His 3rd year he was 1st in Big East.

      Only Pitt homers say it will take years... it is what Pitt feeds the media and the media feeds the fans. Many coaches are successful out the box in the 1st or 2nd year..
      Only Pitt homers made the same comment about Walt Harris... about Wannstedt... and now Chryst.

      How about some accountability!!! Starting at the top! And expectations need to be set higher for the entire football program. People should demand and expect better!

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    3. Your demands will be heard if you stroke a big check,

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    4. WADR, frankarms: I think it's untrue that PC is Pitt's first CFB HC with a vision in 30 years.

      I think Johnny Majors II had vision, else he wouldn't have taken the job (albeit, 10 years too late...). Walt Harris had vision, else he couldn't have resurrected the program from the dead. Wannstedt lived & died with the job and had great vision for the program (and took things to another level from Wlat); oh how I wish that Wanny had succeeded on the field (I still think he would have, had Tino the Magi gone anywhere else to school...).

      On the other side of the ledger, there's Todd Graham the master carpetbagger. The only vision he seemed to focus on was how to use Pitt as a stepping stone (of course, it didn't help that he too was saddled with Tino the Great...).

      It's too soon to know if Chryst will be more like Paul Hackett or Paul "Bear" Bryant. But we've learned that at least he's not in the cut-n-run mold of TG, when he stayed despite the unexpected opening at Wiscy.

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    5. I have to disagree with you regarding the WLAT to Wanny transition, Wanny took the program to another level regarding player arrests only, WLAT did more with less, Wanny as a gameday coach is totally clueless and it really showed when they had the opportunity to win the Big East, Wanny's teams when the pressure was on came up short on all occasions.

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    6. Anonymous, you're talking about their respective coaching talents. That's not the topic.

      The topic was whether or not Paul Chryst was Pitt's first head coach in 30 years with vision. He isn't.

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  24. All in! "Pitt Script"!

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    1. Even Smizik is calling for a return to the Scrip on his blog today.

      MC

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  25. Playmakers are playmakers.

    Last night Clairton pulled an upset in the Class A basketball playoffs defeating the defending champs.

    Who hits the game-ending winning shot? No other than Tyler Boyd.

    As mentioned above, expecting Boyd to make an immediate impact this fall.

    Also encouraging... Howard and Webb had 15 and 10 points respectively in the win.

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    1. Huge upset... I mean HUGE...
      Shows the toughness of those Clairton kids.
      LP has finese players that don't play D... and their center is out at the 3pt line taking shots!!!
      Interesting that Calipari of Kentucky is scouting LP but Dixon is not... they do not fit the Pitt mold. Calipari attended an LP practice last week.

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    2. How about winners are winners

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  26. I am so damned tired of the ARMCHAIR A.D.s and Coaches on this blog. You guys complain about Wanny, then Haywood, then Graham and now you expect PC to take the kids that THOSE guys (except for Haywood)recruited and win the ACC.

    Accountability my ass!! Give the guy 2-3 years and then hold him and his staff accountable. I am so sick of the negativity on this blog.

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    1. I agree, give they guy a few years and then judge

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  27. Ditto what DocBlind said.. Bravo Sir !!

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    1. Thanks, Docbind. I'm with you on that one. Reading this blog and the tedious whinings of those that spew negativity makes it hard to just enjoy the excitement of the upcoming season.

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  28. The negativity on this blog is in large part due to the incessant criticisms of Pitt and HCPC from Joe D. A broken record, playing the same (negative) tunes on and on and on: can't coach, can't recruit, can't hire, and on it goes without end. He lives in New Jersey and goes to no Pitt games, so he is clueless on a see-it-in-person basis, but that doesn't affect his output. The only thing I can figure is that he must have started at Pitt and either flunked or got kicked out and has been spewing his anti-Pitt animosity ever since.

    Dokish would do everybody a favor and kick him off this blog (as he has been kicked off others). The negativity is a drag, a real drag, and in large measure makes this blog not worth reading. Or, heaven forbid, Joe D could do everybody a favor and just go away, away for good.

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    1. It's impossible to ban anybody on this blog. I delete many of his posts when it's all negativity, all the time, but they keep on coming.

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    2. Negativity comes just from being a Pitt fan, where have you been the last 30 years?

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    3. Not suggesting everyone should be cheerleader 100% of the time, but what is the point of always being negative? If you call yourself a fan, you must have some optimism some of the time.

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    4. Just dont approve/publish anything he posts, therefore ban.

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    5. Hello EJ...
      Mr. manage the media and message.
      Call me when you get the chance.

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  29. How do you use a User Name rather that Anonymous? I tried to post a comment with my user name but got a message backed saying it could not be verified. Help appreciated.

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    1. Get a google account sign in to it and post away...

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  30. I appreciate the support on this subject. If one Pitt recruiting prospect gets turned off by this A.H. then he's done his damage. I'm not sure if the recruits read this but I like Chris' commentary and reporting and if we're reading it maybe they are.

    I can appreciate that we are occasionally critical of the administration (hell...we did it enough when we were students)or the coaching decisions but if you don't have anything better to do than constantly trashing the athletic dept. then get a frickin' life and find something constructive to do.

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  31. Doc, pittguy, anonymous...
    Go put on a skirt and get some pompoms.... and go cheer on the sidelines. Sorry if you can't accept the facts.
    This is the ONLY blog that writes about what is honestly going on at Pitt athletics and what they should do. You don't find that anywhere else.
    You don't get it from PG or Trib...
    You don't get it from Rivals or Scout..
    You don't get it from Cardiac Hill or Blather (well sometimes)...

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    1. Joe,

      It's not that the people criticizing you are cheerleaders who believe Pitt is beyond reproach, they just find most of your posts to be extremely negative, which is an accurate observation, in my opinion.

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    2. Yes... I'm negative or pessimistic at times..
      no doubt..

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  32. That was one great pass across court from Robinson. I dot know how this season will turn out but I do know we have a great ball handler and passer for the next three years. Terrific player
    Woodall and Johnson just hit threes all set up by the previous play from Robinson terrific pass.

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    1. Taylor having a very good game.
      I know Dixon is going to comment on the rebounding... especially pitts offensive rebounds... but when soooo many shots are missed by both teams... guess what, there will be a lot of rebounds.

      Anyway... lots of uncalled fouls...
      They need to have a conference with the refs in the offseason as the college game of BB is becoming painful to watch because of all the fouling... many which are not called.

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  33. Chris, what do you make of dixon letting the kids play (free lancing) in the 2nd half? I would like to see more of that down the stretch. Do you think that is our best option?

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    1. During the game in the 2nd half... an announcer said...
      "Pitt plays better when they play faster"
      That was and is obvious by many fans...
      If Dixon loosens the reins and lets them play a little "Greentree" they can be an Elite 8.

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    2. I would love to see Dixon employ this style against ND especially. Pitt can't beat Brey at his own game....the half court offense.

      Even DePaul took ND to OT twice using a running offense. I would love to see this in the BE Tournament if we play them, and again in the ACC when ND joins.

      ~Jackagain

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  34. From BleacherReport

    NBA Draft 2013: Latest Big Board and Top 30 Projections for Week of Feb. 26By Alex Kay(Featured Columnist) on February 26, 2013

    No. 30: Steven Adams, C, Pittsburgh (Remains No. 30)

    Adams possesses great height, but would benefit from another year in school.

    If he declares for the draft, expect him to come off the board in the first round largely due to his seven-foot stature. However, it will take years of development before he’s not being posterized and actually contributing.

    Grade: F

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    1. You lost me at, "From Bleacher Report."

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  35. Anyone worried that FSU has daddy Sunseri. He should know the Pitt offense pretty well to scheme against.

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    1. No.
      because this year Pitt will have a QB that can throw the ball down the field. Savage. Different game strategy.
      Also, Sal is just the Dline coach.
      How did he scheme when going against Alabama? TN lost big.

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    2. Not hard to scheme against run, run, pass, punt

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  36. Georgia Tech is complaining that Pitt is playing Navy the week before playing Tech. Paul Johnson is an idiot, he is worried about Pitt picking up his lame offense.


    http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/tech-johnson-peeved-schedule/nWbJs/

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    1. This stuff happened to every team in the ACC at some point. While I understand his concerns, I'm not sure it's helpful for him or the team to whine about it publicly. Pitt's turn with the short stick will come and it's hard to imagine PC doing a "woe is me" bit.

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  37. Lots of talk about bring the Pitt script back on uni's for opening game against FSU. Great way to restart tradition on opening day of ACC game.
    I like the idea... whether it is a permanent uni or just for special occassions.

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    1. Have to agree with you D. The script means a lot to us and goes back to those thrilling days of the 70's when most of us were young.

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  38. I like the scripts with a twist...blue helmets and yellow script!

    I saw the future schedules for football on panterlair...looks like they could try to get WVU started back up again in 2016 and play PSU, WVU, and 2 patsies every year starting then. That would be an ideal schedule. We can't count the Notre Dame game anymore because we don't know how they will be rotated thru the ACC.

    Also, here's a funny story...Robert Foster (remember him) is rethinking Alabama because Groh, the guy who recruited him went to the Bears. He asked his head coach if Alabama would let the one of the coaches from CV (I forget the name) TRYOUT to be the WR at Alabama! Smh, he really is clueless!

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    1. There should be a "throwback" game every year. PSU would be great for the script uni's. Heck, Steelers do it with the uglies unis ever. (bumble bee)

      Alabama is hiring experienced college coaches for their new recruiting staff and other bogus staff positions.

      http://coachingsearch.com/home/2614-nick-saban-is-changing-the-game-adds-new-assistants.html

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    2. I'd like to see the script back permanently, but I'm not sure about the twist you suggest Joe Bull. I really like the yellow helmet and blue script.

      I assume you meant to write Foster wanted to have one of the CV coaches be the WR coach at Bama. (I guess you forgot to write the word "coach") Wow, he really is naive. He should've picked Pitt and had Engram groom him.

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    3. Has he actually qualified academically?

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    4. Yeah, I meant coach.

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    5. Can we please move past the sour grapes stage regarding Foster and Bama?

      Also, say no to script. Just 'cause you old dudes are stuck in the '70s doesn't mean going to script full time is the right call. Know what my last memory of script is? OSU scoring 70.

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    6. Bama and tennessee is sniffing around kincaide according to Espn recruiting.

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    7. LOL... old dudes...
      I like the script to be used once a year for a throwback game.
      I think Notre Dame has a uniform that they use every now and then... I remember how they used it against USC and it was a surprise. This was years ago though.

      btw... young dudes like the script also.
      I understand Pederson and admin is against it...

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    8. I looked up the history of Pitt script...
      it started with Johnny Majors... 1973...
      and ended after Majors II.. 1997

      but the worst logo... is when they changed it to "Pittsburgh". At least they moved it back to "Pitt"

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    9. My "old dudes" comment was probably unnecessary, as some younger people do like it.

      As much as it pains me to agree with Joe D, Pitt should just introduce a throwback game every year against either ND or PSU and call it a day. It's enough to placate the script contingent without having to do any large-scale re-branding of the University.

      If they do go script, I would hope it's only for the football team. The script looks awful on hoops jerseys and Nike has done some great stuff with basketball uniforms incorporating the Zoo logo.

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    10. The reason this "old dude" would like to see the script back has nothing to do with reviving memories of Pitt's past glory of the mid 70s-early 80s. I simply think it's the best uniform Pitt has ever worn.

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    11. Watching the UCLA game...
      UCLA has both the script logo and "block letters"..
      ucla script started same time as Pitt.

      Not that I agree with using both simultaneously... I do agree with throwback games using the script.
      I don't necessarily agree the old colors of royal blue and yellow.

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  39. Naive? Just say it, he is a major league dumba$$

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  40. Why not rebrand with a new, updated script design. With the new conference it's perfect timing and will add millions from sales to the Pitt coffers. It would be a marketing coup. But we a know Steve. Won't happen. Makes too much sense and would be too progressive for Pitt's stuffy old guard in the CoL.

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    1. I agree, Lee. This move to the ACC is the dawn of a new era. Either update the script or just do something to make more of a splash. The uniform scheme could use an update.

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  41. Have to agree with the contingent on going back to the Script. The new conference with the outstanding home slate combined with a "new/old" look would be perfect timing. When you have teams like GT, ND, Navy, Pitt, etc that look very similar, where is your identity??? Me too typically does not work in our current society. It needs to be something fresh and cutting edge...image matters to today's young people. Imagine the home opener against FSU when our young men don the Script...combine that with a few of our all time greats like Hugh Green, Mark May or Bill Fralic from that era addressing the team prior to the game...WOW. Wouldn't that be fun?

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  42. Watching the ucla and Arizona game right now. This style of play is so different than the big east. There can be no way they Are running set plays of any kind. It is just a frantic dash up and down the court and quick shots...and kick outs on offensive rebounds for threes. I guess time will tell in the tournament if this style is better or worse than the big east but it sure is fun to watch. California...ain't nothing like it.

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  43. OK, what current Pitt quarterback is Brooks Bollinger talking about in a story appearing in this morning's Trib Review? If you haven't read the story, try and guess.

    “The ‘It,' the moxie, whatever you want your quarterback to have, I think he has that,” he said. “He carries himself in that way. The guys kind of want to follow him and are attracted to him."

    PittofDreams

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    1. Chapman. The freshman that enrolled early.

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  44. Sitting at this Pitt Villanova game with a halftime score of 28/ 25. I hope Adams tapes that leg up and gets on the court in the second half...stagnant offense without him...
    It will be interesting to see how far in the big dance no offense and strong defense can take them...

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  45. The ACC will be an adjustment for the walk it down and pass it 15 times before anyone knows there is a hoop and backboard. If Dixon was the football coach Pitt would be running the single wing. The BE disbanding may finally force Dixon to actually press and have a decent transisition game.

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  46. Yes doke to respond to your tweet James Robinson is a winner and we are lucky to have him . Clutch clutch clutch

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  47. Gutsy win, they never stopped shows mental toughness sweet

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  48. I thought Durand Johnson played some key minutes and hit some key three's. The 2-3 zone was very effective today. A quality come from behind win without your center

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  49. Spring Practice starts tomorrow!!!

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    1. Since Pitt if over the 85 scholarship limit by 5...
      I'm going to assume there will be a few no shows tomorrow...
      If not, it will be interesting as to the 5 that get the boot between now and start of summer camp.
      Those under 6'0" should be worried.

      btw.. I looked at the list of 2014 offers... I think 2 of 55 are under 6'0"... height matters with Chryst.

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  50. Hope for the future...

    Pro-Bowl running back Steven Jackson when asked about Paul Chryst who he played for at Oregon State.

    “He’s a great coach,” Jackson said. “If I were a parent, I’d send my kid to play for him.”

    PittofDreams

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  51. Interesting, Post Gazette Pitt Football beat writer Sam Werner has Manny Williams in the hunt for starting middle linebacker this fall.

    PittofDreams

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    1. i swear manny williams was a senior last year. at least the pitt site said he was. if he is back, thats great because before his injury he was playing very well

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  52. Werner does have a nice story on the trials and tribulations of Tom Savage over the past couple of years. Sounds like the kid really got some bad advice or no advice to take the circuitous route he’s taken. Hopefully, he’ll turn out to be the gunslinger he’s rumored to be.

    It’s my opinion that it’s going to be Chapman who pushes Savage if anyone. According to coaches he has the “it” factor. That goes a long way after enduring a QB with the “not” factor for so long.

    Also curious to see if Demitrious Davis is capable of bringing anything to running back. Goodness knows the backfield needs an injection of speed.

    For all his accolades and spot stardom, still concerned about Shell fulfilling expectations. His lack speed and loss of quickness due to the added pounds he’s put on is likely going to require him to become a true power runner. That demands durability and not sure he’ll be able to pass the test.

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    1. POD...
      Interesting comment on Shell. Everyone thought Shell was fast based upon watching his HS game film. I said he was slow because wpial is slow and Shell didn't put the work in. No 40 or 100 time in HS.
      He has quick feet and an unbelievable stiff arm. We'll see.

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    2. Some of the best college RBs of all time had less speed than Shell. It's not even close to being an issue.

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  53. Betcha Mason will be one of the 5 booted from team.
    I said it last year but now his spring is off to a bad start.

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  54. If shell gets injured, we are pretty well screwed......

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    1. Disagree...
      Crockett and Bennett are good to go.
      Although they won't have a power running game.

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    2. Actually, like the speed of Crockett and Bennett and power shell brings. Will keep the defense off guard.

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    3. We have a first year QB, one WR and a shaky OL. Opposing teams are going to stack the box and force us to throw the ball.

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    4. How true....not to mention a new inexperienced DC and a head coach who is learning on the job. If anyone thinks this all adds up to a successful season, you are delusional.

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    5. I'm not Anonymous...
      but I think 6 wins is a heroic effort...
      I say 6 wins due to roster and not enough coaching changes from last year... and the DC appointment is ridiculous.

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    6. Well Joe, so far you're sticking with your prediction of 6-6. Stay with it.

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    7. Dan,
      But 6 wins isn't good enough!!!
      and I don't want to hear about excuses...
      2014 will determine how long Chryst will last as Pitt's HC.

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    8. After a few seasons, I agree that 6 wins isn't good enough. I'm willing to give Chryst 5 years before coming to a conclusion about his abilities as a head coach.

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    9. I'm guessing that's longer than Pitt is willing to wait.

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    10. Dan...
      5 years... are you kidding me??
      It will take you 5 years to come to a conclusion about his abilities as a head coach??
      - he is evaluated every year...
      The reason he won't get fired early is because of the debacle Pitt has gone through... so he is safe until after 2014 season. (3 years)
      In my opinion, for Chryst to keep his job after 2014 season, he will have to have won 8 games in 2014 regular season and have a great (top 25 with lots of 4stars) 2014 incoming recruiting class.

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    11. No Joe, I'm not kidding you. I think a coach deserves 5 years to establish the kind of program he wants. If he hasn't done it by then, it's time to move on.

      Also, my comment was simply about you sticking to your prediction of six wins this coming year.

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  55. concerning the RB position, Demetrious Davis (who I believe was a 4 star in one of the rating services) was moved from WR to RB. It remains to be seen how good he is but he is supposed to be fast, so maybe Chryst is looking to add a homerun hitter to the backfield

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    1. D.Davis played QB in HS.
      he was a 3star by rivals..
      the person with the "speed" is Bennett. One of the top sprinters in HS in Oklahoma.
      They needed someone to run plays as RB on scout team... so that is why D.Davis. He is a body relegated to Scout team.
      Shell, Bennett, Crocket will all be getting playing and practice time with first and second team.

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  56. One good move that makes sense... Eric Williams to safety. Chryst or House is doing him a big favor.

    At linebacker, Williams' speed to the football and ability to tackle really stood out. Hendricks is certainly the man at safety. But, the position switch for Williams could prove interesting if he is able to tackle as well in open field as behind the line of scrimmage or in pursuit.

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  57. I love almost all of the moves..

    Moving King and Rotheram places them at their more natural positions and opens up spots for Bisnowaty, Roberts, Clemmings, Johnson, etc. If the lineup is Bisnowaty-King-Roberts-Rotheram-Clemmings, that's the biggest and possibly the most talented OL we've had here in some time.

    I think the Eric Williams move is a good one too. He should start along side Hendricks. I don't think the staff is sold on Vinopal as an every down player. I know he's Hendricks' backup now, but I think that's just because Hendricks is dealing with some minor injuries. Throw in K'waun Williams, Pitts, and Ryan Lewis and I think this is a very strong unit.

    The linebackers will be as deep and talented as I can ever remember. Todd Thomas and Juan Price will almost certainly start the season off as our outside linebackers. I'd imagine Gordon and Mason will rotate inside with Grisby, Bradley, Rippy, and Caprera providing the quality depth this position has lacked for years.

    I also like the Demetrious Davis move. Don't listen to Joe D on this one. D. Davis is extremely athletic and was one of our most important recruits a couple of years ago. Hopefully he ends up as the dynamic back opposite of Shell. I do like Bennett and Crockett, so Davis will have some competition. Again, I don't think this move is made unless Chryst thinks Davis can contribute at some point.

    I'm not so sure about Durham at DE. I thought he came here to play FB. Anyways, I know nothing about the guy so it's hard to have an opinion.

    Okay that's all I have to say for now..

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    1. I think the Bis-King-Roberts-Roth-Clem OL can actually be decent, but to say that is the most talented OL Pitt has had in some time is quite a stretch.

      The 2008 and 2009 OL's were actually very good.

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    2. 2009 OL: Nix-Thomas-Houser-Malecki-Pinkston

      Not only were they the best in recent Pitt history, they stayed healthy the whole year until Thomas got hurt before the bowl game. I don't think it was any coincidence that Stull had his breakout year and true frosh Lewis had 1700 yds.

      BTW, Pinkston, Nix and Malecki are all still in the NFL (Malecki - practice squad)

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    3. Malecki was active for a third of the season last year.

      http://www.nfl.com/player/johnmalecki/2520016/gamelogs

      He is the first called up if any linemen go down with injury. Has turned himself into a versatile player, playing both guard positions and center. Doesn't have the pedigree of the other two, but an NFL talent none the less. I'm actually more impressed by him at this point, just because he is so much more undersized compared to the majority of NFL linemen.

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    4. I found the Durham move odd as well. He could have stayed at OSU as a depth player, and instead, he's probably looking like a depth DE at Pitt? I didn't think our fullbacks were particularly useful last year, and was expecting this kid to compete there. We'll see.

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  58. What Joe D said about Davis makes some sense, except for 2 factors:
    1) going 4 deep at RB seems to be a prudent thing to do especially in a run-first offense, and
    2) Street is the only proven WR and Demetrius is supposed to be the better of the Davis brothers, thus I wouldn't think that Chryst would waste him on the scout team only if he thought there was hope ... if not this year but forthcoming. Maybe the socut team will give him some good reps for next year

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  59. Imma Man! Im 40!March 6, 2013 at 7:20 PM

    How 'bout some fresh meat, Doke? This news about the fall schedule is almost two weeks old.

    For example, how are things going at spring camp?

    If you don't know what else to say, give us a cheap thrill by typing, over & over, that Tino Sunseri has used up all his eligibility and won't be back!

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  60. Pro day today for Pitt. Shanahan ran a 4.69, not bad for a TE. No report on what Graham ran but he was clocked at 4.8 at the combine. Something seriously wrong here!

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    1. Those are hand times and the combine was FAT (fully automated time)... sensors, video the whole bit.
      Typically you add .24 to hand time to equate to FAT.

      But, Shanahan should get drafted as TE... too bad he has no film as TE and some time will have to take a chance.
      The way TE's are being used in the NFL these days... I think Shanahan will be a very good TE.

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  61. When 5 players go to Buffalo to train under Buddy Morris in preparation for Pro Day...
    It Kinda tells you what they think of the current S&C coach!!!

    Interesting how Buddy Morris wants Olineman to get their weight to 300#... whereas Chryst likes them at 325-330.

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    1. After reading the various articles of the pro days...
      confirms my belief of need to replace the yoga instructor at Pitt.
      Problem is... Chryst won't due to relationship to his family, etc.

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    2. So, let me get this right....each of these guys was with Wanny's SC guy for 3-4 years, Fraud's SC guy for 1 year, and Chryst's SC guy for 1 year and its Chryst's guys fault?! Maybe he got Turnley from 12 to 15 reps in one year. Jacobson stated he was surprised he didn't get 30 reps, only 26, so maybe that's Morris' fault for making him weaker.

      You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. All I'm saying is that's its tough to put the blame on this on the current SC guy.

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    3. I will put some on current S&C guy...
      and Turnley is from Hopewell... so that is to be expected!! ;) lol

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  63. Predicted Graham would rebound to run 4.6 to 4.65. He ran times ranging between 4.58 to 4.62.

    Also, I believe the forties at the combine are partial not fully automatic. It's a hand-timed start combined with an electronically stopped finish.

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    1. POD..
      The combine is FAT.
      I know it is not a gun start that is hooked up to the computer as in track... but they had lasor sensors at the start where they put their hand down in the turf for 3pt stance.
      As soon as that hand is lifted, it starts the clock.

      So, he didn't really gain any time... he is still at 4.8 combine time if you compare apples to apples.

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    2. My bad...
      you are correct POD...
      but I don't know why the lasers at the start when he lifts his hand?

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    3. Joe,

      If Graham is a true 4.8, then Shell is a 5 flat which we know that's not the case.

      It's not saying much, but Graham looks like a 4.6 to 4.65 guy when he's running in open field.

      His big plus that's going to help him find a niche at the next level is that he' s 4.3 in the uncanny way he's able to cut in order to evade tacklers. That will get you a first down on a third down pass play and that goes a long way in the NFL.

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    4. The only way Graham makes an NFL team is special teams due to his short stature... with that he needs speed..
      4.60-4.65 is not going to cut it. I don't think he is back to his pre-ACL injury speed quite frankly.
      He has quick feet... great shuttles, etc.

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  64. That means nothing as far as the S&C guy is. Every single guy going to the NFL goes to work out with a "specialist" to prep for the draft.

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    1. And as you mentioned earlier, they've had 3 S&C guys during their span, all of whom have had very different philosophies.

      Werner reported that Aaron Donald is benching what the other DL are doing now (32 reps I think), so if you are going to blame the current and previous staff for the other guys, you have to give them credit for Donald. You can't cherry-pick the results.

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    2. That was my point.

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  65. Ray G will be almost exactly like LaRod Stephens-Howling in the NFL. A quality 3rd down back that can occasionally start due to injury.

    Shannahan isn't going to be drafted and will be lucky to make a practice squad. In fact, I'd say Tino makes a practice squad before Shanny.


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    1. wow... I'd take that bet of Shanny v Tino.

      They way TE are used these days in the NFL... Shanny has a great chance of making practice squad.. but I think he can be a 7th round pick.

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    2. Imma Man! Im 40!March 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      I'll take that bet too.

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  66. has anyone seen this nonsense

    Pitt as an 8th seed, yet ranked in both polls, im confused

    http://college-basketball.si.com/2013/03/08/bracket-watch-update-wild-week-jostles-tourney-seeding/?sct=hp_wr_a2&eref=sihp

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  67. Joe D

    Now I'm not saying Tino will ever see the field on a Sunday, but he did put up excellent numbers last season. Someone will take a flyer on him based on this along with him 'making all the throws in practice', which we've heard the past few years. He'll sit on a practice squad for a year or two, then move on to his life's work.

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    1. Imma Man! Im 40!March 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM

      pghFred, WADR, I've seen you try to make this argument before. I thought it was laughable (and/or Sunseri family kool-aid) then, and I still do. Here's some reasons why (there are others):

      First of all, Tino is "listed" at 6'-2 but by all accounts he's 5'-10, 5'-11 tops (sheesh I hate that "listed as" height crap, but that's a topic for another day). Which means he's too short to stay in the pocket by at least 5-6 inches. The only guys THAT short who get a sniff at the NFL either have laser accurate arms (example, Drew Brees -- and even he's taller than 5'-10) or are elusive, very fast and athletic (example, Russell Wilson).

      Comparing Tino the Great's weak scatter-arm and sack-magnet slow feet to either of those two guys is horse-laughable.

      Secondly, most of Tino's career numbers were in Qs 1-3, before the pressure hit. My big knock against him is that his entire college career he's been the opposite of both Tim Tebow (who is terrible in practice but shined when the pressure is on, ESPECIALLY in the 4th Qtr when it counts), and John Elway (the undisputed master of 4th Qtr comebacks). Tino was master of the 4th Qtr choke, you could always count on him for a turnover or taking a bonehead sack at the worst possible time.

      Tnfortunately for our local hero, NFL playbooks are deeper than 15 yard out-routes. Don't forget, teams will make Anti-Tebow Sunseri throw before taking a chance on him. They'll take one look at his downfield throws that resemble pooch punts and burst out laughing. Or else they’ll bring the special teams coach over and have him measure TS's "hang time" on his "pooch punts."

      Either way, I have the same chance to make the NFL as Tino the Magnificent: none.


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  68. Imma Man! Im 40!March 8, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    pghFred, maybe you meant the CFL?

    Dan Hawkins -- who utterly ruined U of Colorado football -- has somehow scammed his way to be the new head coach of the Montreal Alouettes (what the hell is an Alouette, BTW?). And he ruined CU football in no small part by insisting to start his son Cody at QB for three years (sound familiar?), of course driving away any other talented QBs for years (until this day).

    BTW, Cody is the exact same size and has the exact same "skill set" (or lack thereof) as Tino the Great ... in fact they even resemble each other (in the face) -- a LOT!

    So presuming Hawk will again try to find some way / any way to play Cody -- even if it means ruining the franchise for a generation -- maybe Tino can slip in unnoticed and swap in / swap out for Cody... .

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    1. Based upon my posts, you know that I'm no fan of Tino. But you've got to keep it real.

      He may look 5-10 or 5-11 due to his squat build. However, he is a shade over 6 foot.

      That's not going to buy him an NFL roster spot.

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