Thursday, April 11, 2013

A look at who Pitt basketball is pursuing now

Jamie Dixon already had a very talented duo arriving next season with 6'8" PF Mike Young and 6'2" combo guard Josh Newkirk, but with recent defections, the staff now has four more openings.  While I know a lot of fans would prefer that Dixon save some of those scholarships for next season, that's not the way he thinks.  For that reason, if he can pull it off, I expect him to use all four.

This is just some of the more confirmed prospects that the Pitt staff is looking at, but there are plenty more that they are following.  When Pitt's pursuit of those players gets more serious, I will add them to the list.

Josh Davis, Tulane graduate transfer-  From Raleigh, NC and committed to NC State out of high school.  Not highly recruited out of high school but played in ever game as a freshman and even started two games.  Though he only averaged 2.6 ppg and 1.7 rpg, he endeared himself to many because of his hustle and tenacity.  Fearing that then coach Sidney Lowe was recruiting higher ranked prospects behind him, Davis decided to leave for Tulane.

Rather than just sitting around during his non-eligible season, he improved his game to 11.2 ppg and 9.3 rpg as a redshirt sophomore. This past season, as a redshirt junior, Davis continued to improve to 17.6 ppg and 10.7 rpg, and developed other aspects of game, too, as his FG% went from 42.0% to 49.2%, and his FT% went from 54.3% to 71.6%.  And if you think he only did well because he was in a weaker conference, think again.  In the opener, he scored 27 points against Georgia Tech.  He also had 19 points and 13 rebounds at Nebraska, 18 points and 12 rebounds at Alabama, and 13 points and 12 rebounds against Memphis.  In the conference tournament, he played against Memphis again and went off for 21 points and 15 rebounds.  On the season he had an incredible 18 double doubles, including 6 games of 15+ rebounds.  And even though he wouldn't be called a shot blocker, he had a game at Central Florida in which he had 6 blocks.  The only real negative is his sometimes sloppy play, which has resulted in an 8 turnover game against SMU, and a 7 turnover game against Alabama. His 2.6 turnovers a game is an extremely high number.

Now that Davis has graduated, he can transfer to another school and play immediately.  One report has a quote from Davis's high school coach who said he just got off the phone with him and that Pitt was one of the four schools being considered, along with Gonzaga, Illinois, and Iowa State.  It seems like an  out of the blue list since usually a player transfers closer to home, especially when his home is in ACC country.  There are many rumors that Davis will simply go back to NC State, an even more unusual move since it's almost unheard of for a player to go back to where he once transferred from.  But there has been no actual reports that NC State is heavily in the mix, so for now everything is up in the air.  If for whatever reason, Davis does not want to go back to NC State, and those are in fact his four options, Pitt being in the ACC, and a program where rebounding is featured, could make them a very attractive option.

How it would help Pitt:  Needless to say, it would be huge if the Panthers can land Davis.  He is a relentless rebounding machine which is exactly what Dixon loves.  His signing would mean Dixon would move Talib Zanna to center and it would enable incoming prized freshman Mike Young to ease himself into college basketball by taking on a supporting role.  In fact, if the Panthers were to land Davis, they are top 25 caliber again.


Jon Severe, Christ the King HS (Middle Village, NY)- Underrated as a college prospect, even though he was recently named Mr. Basketball in New York.  A combo guard who is probably best suited at shooting guard.  At 6'2", he's not the prototypical height for the position, but he has so many other skills that being slightly shorter is not much of a problem.

Athletic, with a good combination of skills, but it's his shooting that stands out most.  He can make shots from all over the court, and is well above average from three point range. He also can get into the paint and score.  He has the New York City moxy that Pitt has missed over the past few years.  To put it simply, he's a winner with ice water in his veins.

He's currently down to Pitt, Wake Forest, WVU, and Fordham.  Dixon has been relentless in his pursuit and is trying to get him to visit the campus. But Severe doesn't say much and it's hard to gauge exactly what he's thinking.

How it would help Pitt:  With James Robinson and Josh Newkirk already in the fold as point guards, that position is not essential at this time.  But Cameron Wright and Chris Jones are still question marks for the two spot, and Severe, with his excellent offensive game, stands out as somebody who would see early action for the Panthers, and would soon be a leader on and off the court.


Joseph Uchebo, Chipola College (Marianna, FL)-  It doesn't take long to realize what Uchebo's best attribute is.  That would be his 6'11" height.  But he's more than just that.  The Nigerian is very athletic and amazingly agile for his size.  In fact, he runs and moves more like he's 6'7", and even dribbles easily through his legs in games.

The one time North Carolina State signee asked for, and got his release, from Mark Gottfried after he replaced Sidney Lowe. Uchebo had little chance of becoming eligible anyway as he got bad advice about how much of his academic work would translate from Nigeria to NC State.  The likes of Kentucky, Indiana, and Florida State quickly swooped in, but it quickly became apparent that he was better off going to a junior college to become eligible.  He ended up at Chipola, a basketball factory that Pitt frequents often.  In his freshman season he showed his great potential by averaging 12.3 ppg and 12.3 rpg.  A possible NBA career loomed.

But then Uchebo found out that he had a micro fracture in his knee, a sometimes serious injury that some players never fully recover from.  Uchebo had offseason surgery after his freshman year, and despite his coaches trying to get him back on the court, he wisely decided to continue his rehabilitation first.

Uchebo, who is a former teammate of Josh Newkirk, will visit the campus soon.  It will be interesting visit, to say the least.  If he can prove to the Panthers staff that he's healthy, then Pitt may have hit the jackpot.  He will still be raw, and it may take time to get back into playing shape, but as one college coach told me when he heard that Pitt was pursuing him: "with somebody like that you take a chance because he could be a force if he's healthy".

How it would help Pitt:  The ideal situation obviously is if Uchebo is healthy and productive. If by some miracle Davis becomes a Panther, Uchebo can ease into the lineup at center with Zanna getting starter minutes. Uchebo has a nice offensive touch, is a strong rebounder and defender, and can really pass for a big man.  All things that Dixon (or anybody else for that matter) craves in a big center. He has three years of eligibility but he may not last that long at Pitt. If he is healthy and takes off, then an early exit to the NBA is a real possibility.  And if he's not a quality player, then academics and recruiting may force him out of the program.  But like that coach said, there's simply too much potential there not to take the chance.


Jamel Artis, Notre Dame Prep-  Even though he is currently playing at a prep school in Vermont, the 6'7" Artis is a Baltimore native.  He has kind of fallen through the cracks somewhat in recruiting because he's a bit of a tweener, and because of academic issues.  But the Panthers are no strangers to tweeners, and have stuck with him to see if he makes the grades.

While he can definitely play power forward, he may be best suited at the three for Pitt. He is not a spectacular athlete, but he is at least above average in that category.  His shooting is also just okay.  But his rebounding is very good and his passing is at an elite level for a point guard, let alone a forward.  Very reminiscent of former Pitt star Jaron Brown in that he may not look flashy, but his combination of versatility, toughness, and leadership makes him somebody you really want on your team.

He has practically been a Pitt commit for a very long time, but that is contingent on his grades.  The results should come soon and Artis is visiting the Panthers this weekend to see where he stands.

How it would help Pitt:  I know this isn't the high scoring wing that Pitt fans want, but you need players like this to win, too.  The problem with Panthers teams in the past is that they had nothing but these kinds of players, but even with nothing but players like this they would win a ton of games.


Sai Tummala, Salt Lake City Community College-  Played high school ball in Arizona but turned down offers from smaller schools so that he could be a preferred walk on at Michigan.  He redshirted his only season there but coach John Bielein raved about his athleticism and quickness.

At 6'7", Tummala has a good offensive game, especially from three point range, where the lefty made 40.4% of his threes this past season.  But his defense, a Dixon necessity, is considered below average.

He has no visit set up to Pitt yet, but is visiting Nebraska this weekend.  Also a 4.0 student.  Has three years to play three years.

How it would help Pitt:  While he may help the Panthers this year and beyond, especially because of his shooting, I'm guessing that he is more of a backup plan for Dixon in the event that Artis is not eligible.


Cameron Forte, Howard College (Texas) - Another Arizona native, he originally signed with Billy Gillispie at Texas Tech.  He didn't last long there, however, and never played a game for the Red Raiders. He then tried to transfer to Northern Arizona thinking that he could get a waiver to play immediately.  When he didn't he headed to Howard College where his former high school coach is an assistant.

At 6'6", Forte is a solidly built combo forward that can play the three or four equally. Not a great long range threat but has a nice touch around the basket.  Averaged 23 ppg, which was good for third in the country.  Excellent in close and made an incredible 63% of his shots from the field.

Will be visiting Georgia this weekend and is also considering Pittsburgh, as well as Minnesota, Colorado State, and Long Beach State.

How it would help Pitt:  A 6'6" combo forward with touch around the net is never a bad thing.  He would see time immediately at the four, I would guess, but how good he can be is really anybody's guess.


Achraf Yacabou, Villanova transfer-  A one time top prospect, he chose Villanova over the likes of UConn, Kentucky, Oklahoma State, Maryland, and Wisconsin. However he could not play himself into the lineup with the Wildcats and averaged just 2.6 ppg over his first two seasons.

The Long Island native did make 39.6% of his threes in his limited time, and is considered a good defensive player.

Yacabou is interested in Pitt, Miami, UNLV, Georgia Tech, and St. Louis.  Whether or not those same schools are interested in him remains to be seen,

How it would help Pitt:  To be honest, other than another body, I'm not sure it would.  Sure there's always a chance that he could make a giant step and be the player many always thought he would, but there is better potential already at the guard spot for the Panthers,  Yacabou would also have to sit out a year.


There are other names being bandied about, such as Memphis graduate transfer Tarik Black, and Rutgers decommit Shane Rector, but to be honest, I don't see either coming to Pitt.  Black is a head case but is being pursued by a lot of big schools.  It seems unlikely that he will end up with the Panthers.  And Rector is a true point guard, and the Panthers already have a better one of those.  I don't see why Pitt would want Rector, and even more importantly, I don't see why Rector would come to Pitt to play behind James Robinson.

156 comments:

  1. thanks Dokish... been wanting to read an update on this for about a week.

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    1. Pitt wasn't even pursuing half these kids a week ago. You have to be patient. They've only hit the road hard recently.

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    2. Chris,

      This is excellent stuff, and why I come back to your blog consistently. You always have your work meticulously researched, and you don't throw out trial balloons. Plus, your inside info. is top notch.

      I know this is a very hard thing to predict, but what do you think the chances are of Pitt getting one of 2 big guys (Davis & Newkirk's former teammate)? Also, how good do you feel about Severe at this point?

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    3. I think there is a very good chance of Uchebo if he's healthy. Severe is impossible to figure out.

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  2. When does the 2nd signing period start?
    Who has scheduled a visit?

    They always knew they had 2 available scholarships from Gilbert and Johnson transfers... why is Pitt so late in the recruiting process... they new they needed at least 1 BIG to replace Gilbert. I'm surprise they didn't land a BIG already.
    Pitt needs to get 2 BIG's with the 4 available scholarships.

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  3. I imagine getting a center is the priority..?

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  4. FWIW, my prority list in order of improtance:

    1) Davis - immediate frontcourt help for next year mcuh needed
    2) Uchebo - longer term help but must heal properly
    3) Severe - could he be this year's Spike Albrecht?
    4) Tummala or Artis

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    1. I am almost in total agreement, although I would switch 1 & 2. Center is a more pressing need, plus Uchebo has more years left.

      I doubt Jamie will go for Tummala if he feels his defense is suspect. If Belein loved his athleticism, and the possibilities it would bring and figured he could coach him up enough in his style of defense, Jamie is almost certain to say his offense is not enough to hide his defensive deficiencies. If he comes to Pitt, history tells me he'll sit for that reason. But, I think the kid will figure it out and go somewhere that showcases his offensive skills.

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    2. Wouldn't it be great if Jamie landed either Uchebo or Davis, and that prompted the other one to come to Pitt also? Maybe it wouldn't affect either one of them to see where the other goes, but Pitt is right back in the Top 15 discussion if they get both of those BIGS.

      Chris, it seems like you are very high on Severe, and in fact, your description of him made it sound like he brings the toughness and grittiness of Fields, Krauser, Knight with the added dimension none of them had of being a great outside shooter. If that is the case, get him Jamie!

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    3. i would hope severe is much better than spike albrecht.. the kid averaged a point a game and only made those shots versus louisville because he was literally wide open for all of them.

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    4. You're ripping Albrecht for the multiple clutch 3-pointers he delivered in the biggest basketball game of the college season because you think he was wide open when he took them? Really, you're serious? Consistently making open 3 pointers like that is something that a Pitt player does maybe a couple of times a season, and certainly not in such pressure situations. And, I don't think he was "literally wide open" for all of them against Louisville as quick to react as their guards are defensively. Wide open one second becomes a shot getting put back in your face the next second vs. them. But, regardless, draining 3's is not easy in pressure situations.

      Albrecht did not score much because he was the back-up to Trey Burke, who will go very early in the NBA draft and may very well be the college player of the year. I am not pretending to know just how good Albrecht will be next year, as he was unheralded out of high school and has not had many opportunities yet at MI. But, the way he stepped up in such a big stage sure seemed like a lot more than luck. Severe may be a great college player, but very few college players will ever do what Albrecht did the other night. Severe or anyone else would have to do a lot to be "much better than Albrecht" the other night.

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    5. you dont know how good he is or how good he will be. He is a scholarship athlete, its his job to make uncontested shots.

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    6. also, i wasnt ripping him. he made the shots but people are acting like hes a stud when he had ONE excellent HALF of basketball all year.

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    7. Keep digging your hole deeper. The guy never got to play because the BEST PG in the country was in front of him. When he got to play, he lit up L'Ville in the Championship Game. Neither of us know how good he'll be. The difference is you said he only makes open shots. I said it is kind of hard to rip someone, as you did, for being no good when the best evidence we have says otherwise.

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    8. Teen wolf isn't a starting caliber PG. Perfect role player and bench guy though and will be important for Michigan down the line ... if he comes off the bench. He'll get eaten alive starting.

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  5. Uchebo seems very possible because of the Newkirk high school connection. Also with Zanna being a fellow countryman. Adding Davis would be a christmas gift in April. Adding Severe and Artis and that 4 is better than the 4 we lost.

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    1. Anonymous 6:18,

      Well said.

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  6. DiPaola of Trib is reporting Rippy rumored to be considering to transfer because he is 3rd on depth chart. He's been out of spring practice a few days allegedly due to academics.
    What's going on? Why?
    Rippy was highly rated but then again he played StoRox in Single A which the speed of the game is slower, etc. Was he overrated? He played well in that all-star game.. didn't he?
    Pitt also lost Jackson (DT from Ohio).. also high 3star but had impressive offer list.
    So, why is Chryst losing highly rated players??

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    1. Both were guys they took a chance on late after Graham left so that they could get some bodies in. Neither are very good. It's not a big deal.

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    2. How can you say that Chris?
      Rippy was highly sought after by Pitt. One of the top recruits out of wpial for 2012. Went to the all-armour HS all-star game (I think that one)... and you don't get selected for that unless you are highly rated. Also, Rippy had an impressive offer list.
      Jackson had an impressive offer list.
      Neither was a "take a chance on" type of player.

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    3. Offer lists don't always mean a lot. Rippy got all of his after his junior year. But after his senior year nobody wanted him. Hell, even even tried to commit to Florida and they told him no. His stock dropped a ton before he signed with Pitt.

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    4. thought I remember that he was offered by Florida, but was then rescinded when he decided to commit. He must have some talent but UF can be more discretionary than Pitt

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    5. This is why Chris runs a successful blog. Things aren't always what they appear to fans like us. He actually has contacts & inside info.

      Thanks for setting things straight on these 2 guys, Chris.

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    6. Anonymous..
      If memory serves me correctly, Florida rescinded Rippy because they met their quota for the position (LB).

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  7. Joe D, all programs have turnover. Why do you persist in singling out Pitt when this happens everywhere. Check ND out lately? Plus Pitt has to get down to 85. Rippy is no great loss, and wish him well at WVU.

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    1. See this article - it's an epidemic in the NCAA. Pitt is not alone ... http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/22007798/transfer-list-first-edition

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    2. Yes, it's kind of ridiculous what is going on with transfers in college basketball and football.
      But, hey... look at the college coaches.
      You don't see NFL Head coaches moving around when under contract. NCAA needs to adopt a similar type rule.

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    3. Will never happen.

      Main reason why you don't see it in the NFL (or any other pro sports, for that matter) is that all 30-some franchises are generally considered equal. Is the Dallas Cowboys HC job really any better than the Detroit Lions job? Not really.

      Plus, there's not a higher level league above it.

      In contrast, you'd take the Michigan HC job over the Baylor HC job in a millisecond.

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    4. I think the NFL controls that better because they have a group of 30 or so owners - all with the same interest in the end. They compete on the field, but they are business partners. Seems like it is tougher to control when schools all have different interests and, more importantly, vastly different operating budgets than their competitors.

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  8. It's not a reason, but reasons with an (s) as to why two players and one "Prima Donna" have decided to leave Pitt.

    Sure if you talk with each, you'll find some differences as to "WHY?"

    However, if Chryst is turning some players off because he won't coddle them and their high-maintenance ways, I'm all on board. The team will be far better for it in the long run.

    And isn't that what it's all about... the LONG RUN?

    PittofDreams

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    1. POD...
      I'm with you... Pitt doesn't need prima donna's. Coddling is ok "IF" the player is putting the work in.
      Shell leaving was expected and predicted.
      Jackson... don't know why.
      Rippy... appears to be 3rd on depth chart. Which leads me to... was he not putting the work in?? He was Shell's buddy perse.

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    2. The verdict is still out as to whether Chryst & staff can consistently recruit at a high level, and run a solid football program. What doesn't seem to be at issue, from anything I hear, is Paul Chryst's character. He expects certain commitments from players, and if they are not willing to meet his expectations, he shows them the door. I guess that turns off some current players and some recruits. But, I think it attracts/energizes at least as many other players, recruits and HS coaches. If people want to rip him for his game day coaching last year, that is fine. If they want to rip him because he has not turned in a Top 20 class yet, I don't think that is fair at this point, but it is their prerogative. But, if people are going to rip him because he did not bend to the wishes of lazy or immature players because this sent a couple of guys packing, then I think those people doing the criticizing are fools.

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    3. Anony 1:58..
      I support Chryst for kicking players off the team who don't want to put the work in regardless of how many stars they have. I believe POD feels the same.

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  9. Chris,
    What's Adams from Hempfield like as a football player?
    Saw an article in PG... 6'2, 250#, bench press 400, squat 500.
    Love his work ethic.
    He is a shot put and discus. I've always said, lineman should do the put/discus because it helps with footwork and off-season conditioning.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/high-school-other/east-xtra-hempfields-adams-looking-to-repeat-in-track-683014/

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  10. Doke

    Great stuff. Your blog, and tweets, are by far the best in the busness and it is not even close. The only teams that i really care about in the city are pitt football and basketball so i appreciate all of the attention you give to them.

    I see "Zag's Blog" is indicating that Joesph Uchebo is visitng pitt this weekend...

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    1. Chris, since there is some question about how healthy Uchebo is currently, or will be by hoops season, are Pitt and other schools able to have a doctor examine him when he visits? Or, do they just have to wing it regarding his health when offering? Does previously injured recruits come with a medical examination from their own doctor in hand? Just curious.

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  11. Joe D.,

    I believe most people around the WPIAL were very surprised at Rippy's high ratings. Most people i talked to last year didn't understand how he was rated so highly, but didn't even dominate Single A.

    He was actually probably the third best player on Sto-Rox based on production behind Dontez Ford (now at Pitt) and Geter (former Pitt recruit/headcase).

    Oh and I'm pretty sure he was Shell's roommate.

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    1. Well, there you go.. Shell's roommate.
      He must have gotten... Shellitis.
      Anyway, I'm not a big fan of Single A recruits, whether from wpial or NJ. They better have great "measurables" to be able to succeed in big boy football.. BCS D1. Gaudy stats in Single A football is meaningless in my opinion as the competition is lackluster.

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    2. One thing that seems to resurface time and again with HCPC is that he makes independent judgments about player abilities. He doesn't seem to care whether the consensus from "experts" is that a player is a stud if he doesn't see that himself. He seems to value production over measurables. Just seems that way to me. I like a coach who believes in his own abilities to judge and project talent.

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    3. The occasional gem from a lower HS level shines on the bigger college stage, but it is tough for them to make it when they haven't faced the size, speed and strength of guys in the top classes.

      But, they shouldn't all be written off just as guys from conferences like the MAC/SWAC & even guys from lower level college classifications make it in the pros quite often. Every team in the NFL has guys who never played on National TV, never played in a bowl game, never played in a power conference. Some of them are total studs.

      I think what you are saying is very true as a rule of thumb. But, by no means can you write off everyone due to size of school & competition. Just like you can't stay every track star will be an NFL superstar.

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  12. I think Tyler Boyd can do good things if he works hard and doesn't have an attitude like Shell. No question if he doesn't HCPC will find someone else. what HCPC is in reality doing is not following the Harris model and Wanny model of a couple of really good players and a bunch of players that are somewhat lacking. A couple of great players can only take you so far in college football. Pitt needs to develop true competition and depth. It may take two more recruiting classes to get there.

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  13. Doke, great timely stuff as always. Thanks.
    Prefer to talk about the guys here and not the ones leaving, or even worse, ones rumored to be leaving. Just don't care especially if its someone who has not contributed and buried in the 3-deep list.
    This has to be the carziest Bball offseason at Pitt in along time. 4 scholarships to fill this late and then hiring a big name women's coach. If Severe and Davis are 70% of what you think they are, I'd take getting both as a great sign for next year. Love to see Patterson and Moore fight for playing time because they have never lived up to their abilities, or their abilities have been overrated for a long time.

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  14. My first post. Have read the blog for about 2 years now. The quality of Chris' analysis and the comments from all of you are the reason why I read daily.
    BillG

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  15. Voytik looked very good tonight... looks like a battle at QB.
    Gardner wreaked havoc as he is a WR playing TE... sort of like Dorin Dickerson.
    Crockett and Bennett looked good... and fast.
    Overall, the offenses played well.
    I don't think the defense played well... missed tackles, poor coverage, etc.

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  16. Scout just listed Artis as a commit. That's great, although I hope he can help a little this year.

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    1. Artis is a decent "get" but I would list Ochebo, Davis and Severe all as more important players from whom to secure commitments in the next week or so.

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  17. Jamel Artis commits to Pitt.

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  18. The good news is that the offenses looked great last night; the bad news is that the offenses looked great last night.

    I know Donald was out and the DB was depleted with injuries, but I saw very little resistance last night from the defense. Bennett, Orndorf and Tinker scored on long plays where the defenses barely laid a hands on them.

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  19. doke, given our past QB woes, does it really make sense for chryst to have awarded Savage with all first team reps in camp? In your opinion, is he the best QB we have right now? Glad Voytik played well in game but will he be given a fair shake at starting is the question. At this point, I just want a QB that makes plays vs. managing a game and if we are destined for a 6-6 season, I would rather see the younger guys get a real shot to play.

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    1. Nobody is proclaiming Chryst is an established, great coach yet. But, doesn't his track record indicate he knows how to choose a QB? If Savage starts, he will have earned it. Same for Voytik.

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  20. Artis is signed.

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  21. Florida states spring game is on ESPN3 today 2:00pm. I know we are missing a few starters but watch the difference in how FSU attacks the ball compared to us. You will see we have a long, long way to go. I've been following Pitt spring games for many years and this is the best I've seen the offense look period. Voytik is the real deal but I am scared like hell about our defense.

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    1. The defense will be fine. Not having Donald, Hendricks, and Gordon obviously makes a huge difference.

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    2. Voytik looks like he has a little "gamer" in him.

      As I've said since seeing him first play in high school... he is a good, strong athlete. However, some limitations as a QB.

      He does not have a natural throwing ability. Has a bit of a forced throwing action. Relies a lot on muscle to get the ball to where he's aiming.

      Problem is this kind of throwing motion does not lend itself to a strong arm. This is obvious in the deeper routes where the ball tends to die. It also results in some flutter balls because of the lack of spin he is able to put on the ball.

      For Voytik to be successful, he's going to need more than a little gamer.

      If I had to say, he reminds me a bit of Bill Hurley of Syracuse now Duquesne's DB coach who most probably remember being drafted by the Steelers as a safety.

      However, I remember Hurley giving good Pitt defenses all it could handle.

      PittofDreams

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    3. Time will tell. Expect House to make his rookie mistakes, just like Paul C. did in his first year.

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    4. Not only those guys but also Christian, Pardner, Felder, and Vinopal. While i don't think Vinopal should be a starter, his absence led to J.Pitts on 1st team and walk-on Ethan Brown at 2nd team safety yesterday. Those other 3 guys are probably the top 3 db's after the starting 4

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  22. With Artis signed, getting Uchebo and Severe would make this a great recruiting class.

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    1. Agreed, but what the heck ... Let's get Davis as the cherry on top!

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  23. on the game, first things first, how great is it to see a new QB behind center for Pitt? Savage looked ok, missed on a sure TD throw to Carswell early... can't miss those throws down the middle. My guess is Chryst loves his arm strength and figures he will make plays with the big arm hence why he is the starter. I am excited about the big arm and what I think are some decent skill players to throw to.

    On the other side, Voytik has some moxie but the arm strength and accuracy are average. He missed the short throw to the running back on 4th down that would have been a TD if the pass was not thrown behind him. I also felt some of his passes had too much arc / air under them and would have been picked if he wasn't facing second team players.

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  24. Without question, with his ability to throw the football Savage is the clear frontrunner at QB.

    However, the familiarity that comes with practicing against the same players day in and day out can make any quarterback look good.

    The question is, “How will he react once thrown into the fire?”

    He’s shown he could do it in the past. For Pitt’s sake, let’s hope he has a flashback to hs freshman year and flourishes under Chryst’s tutelage.

    PittofDreams

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  25. According to WPIAL Insider ~ Troy Apke just committed to Penn State

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    1. If someone commits to PSU right now, with all of their issues, it seems he just wasn't coming to Pitt no matter what. Not necessarily a trend, and nothing like Shell and Foster.

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  26. Chryst missed on Foster and Apke and lost Shell. Thoughts?

    Apke is a big big loss.

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  27. I was at the game last night and it was nice to see some vertical passing from the offense. Weatherspoon looked good and showed speed at WR, Garner is the real deal and should have a huge season reminded me of Dorin Dickerson and how he created mismatches. Definite upgrade over Carswell. I think Soto and Orndoff will play as true freshmen. Orndoff has great speed for his size. Chapman looked very raw but nice arm and athleticism. Capara, the MLB, tackled everything but looked like a CB because of his height. I’d be concerned if he went up against some big lines though. Hopefully some depth will develop this year at LB.

    Doke what do you think of Apke committing to PSU? He looked like a Pitt lock but ended up similar to Dieffenbach. I think Weah could be the real deal with Boyd but I think we need another top WR in this class to make up for the losses of Street, Foster, and now Apke.

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  28. Troy Apke commits to PSU according to Twitter. Not a good start to an important recruiting class for Chryst. Chris, it seemed like this one was a given for Pitt based on your summaries with the family connections. Is this as bad as it seems? Don't get a good feeling about this at all.

    Mac

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  29. But at least Pitt football is reeling in top local recruits, like Troy Apke....OH WAIT.

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  30. Nice to see the former football players family and pitt employee's family feel the same way about pitt as some of the fans do. LOL

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  31. I really can't think why anyone would commit to the Nits while they are heading south. Especially from a two parent Pitt family. I guess Mr Apke wants his son home for Christmas the next four years.

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    1. For juniors like Apke, Penn State's probation is practically over. They enter in the 2014-15 season and redshirt. Then one year on probation (2015-16) and that's it.

      With respect to recruiting from now on, the sanctions are irrelevant.

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    2. Agreed! Enjoy January-free football at PSU.

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    3. Just because the probation will be short for guys in Apke's class doesn't exactly mean all is sunshine and rainbows at PSU. They had not exactly been reeling in great classes nationally pre-scandal. The roster has been weakened, they have less recruits and I don't quite see all the reasons for optimism for them. Apke is a nice get. Let's see what else ensues before downplaying their issues.

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  32. I think Jamel Artis was a better get than people think. He has excellent size, he rebounds, finishes, passes extraordinarily well, has above average athleticism, etc. The thing about it though is he fills a not so immediate need at the small forward position for pitt. After this year, pitt wont have a true sf on the roster as lamar is gone, jj is gone (yes he plays the 4 but hes a 3), and neither cam wright nor durand johnson are true sf's even though they can certainly play some good minutes there. besides, i wouldnt be surprised to see artis get some decent pt this year at the 4 behind jj.

    now, finish out with uchebo, severe, and hopefully chris davis. as for davis, it actually amuses me that he said his top 4, which didnt include nc state, but everybody says hes 95% to nc state so take that as you will

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    1. Josh Davis. And I have no idea why people just assumed that he was going to go back to someplace that he transferred from. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

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    2. You're already mentioning this guy as a possible 4, and you may be right about that. But, maybe Jamie can start recruiting guys where they are suited to play and leaving them there.

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    3. Oops wrong name. I agree. When chris peak tweeted his top 4 a while ago there was actually some guy telling him it was all bs because hes definitely going back to nc state. like you said, though, that doesnt make any sense.

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    4. And, maybe Rushel Shell will sit a year, play a year at UCLA, get homesick and return to finish his college career at Pitt. Josh Davis going back to NCSU would, indeed, be quite rare.

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  33. The sanctions are almost over is not correct in my view. PSU will be at 65 free rides and they may not offer more than 5-10 scholarships in 2014. My point is relative to the mid programs PSU will compete. But the OSU and Michigans and the second tier programs Wisky, MSU and Nebraska will make the nits a team that has little TV exposure by then and no bowl games for the next three years. The recruiting gap in very pronounced now between the power teams and PSU.

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    1. Penn State will get much worse before they get better because their numbers will be so weak. That's why O'Brien wants to get the hell out of there before they start having 4 win seasons and his stock drops.

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    2. Why can O'Brien convince Apke to come to this nightmare that is PSU but Chryst cannot get him to come to Pitt?

      Please explain how this is a good reflection on Chryst and the program?

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    3. Please explain the loss of Apke to PSU. I know you defend chryst and Pitt but that's pathetic.

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    4. Answer: Chryst can't recruit.

      If Chryst and Haering can't land Apke, who can they land in wpial? Haering was Apke's HS coach at Mt. Lebo and now Pitt LB coach!

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    5. What I meant to make clear is that the sanctions are irrelevant to juniors, thus for the time being they are over. If Penn State has a 4 or 5 win season next year, then they might have some bite (of course, by then any junior who redshirts won't be on a team with a bowl ban by the time he hits the field).

      What does a junior right now see? A team that, in spite of sanctions and transfers, a team that would have been bowl-eligible. For a junior in HS who redshirts, Penn State is subject to a one-year bowl ban.

      For a HS junior, the sanctions are irrelevant. That's the solution to the mystery.

      What Chryst and his assistants should be doing (if they aren't) is telling every recruit that O'Brien can't wait to leave for the NFL and his entire coaching staff will be gone by the time you get to Penn State.

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    6. Aside from the sanctions, what 17 year old kid wouldn't want to perform in front of 105,000 crazy white out fans compared to a half empty stadium and almost fully empty by the 4th quarter. It's all about show and to these kids it show time.

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    7. PSU's reputation is tarnished, and their ability to win will be compromised by the probation and bowl ban. But, they still have what a lot of kids will consider an advantage over city schools like Pitt, and that is what a lot of people consider a true college experience. Being away from home, nice sprawling campus, 100,000 or so at the games. No pro teams to compete with, etc.

      It doesn't mean everyone wants that college experience, though. A lot of kids prefer an urban campus, with lots to do in a vibrant city. To each his own. Maybe Apke likes the PSU experience, and Pitt had no real shot. It doesn't automatically mean Chryst can't recruit. There will be other kids who choose Pitt for what it offers, aside from the 2 coaches involved in these recruiting battles.

      Why is every recruit's choice seen as a referendum on Paul Chryst? Pitt never could get everyone they wanted. He can still be successful by getting a good number of the key local kids. Now, if this becomes a trend, we have a different story. But, I don't see it that way right now.

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    8. If it were anyone else, true, it is a non-story.
      Pitt is not going to get every top wpial recruit. Agreed.
      However, in this case, his mom and dad are pitt alum and played sports at PITT under scholarship.
      Add in the fact that his former HS football coach is on the Pitt staff.
      Now you have a story.

      http://blog.pennlive.com/pa-recruiting/2013/04/troy_apke_had_to_be_no_1_wr_ta.html#incart_river_default

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    9. Maybe his parents preferred that he choose Pitt, but left it up to him because it is his life. My dad didn't tell me where to go to school, and he paid for most of it. Apke earned a free ride, and it is his call. I really don't get why he would choose PSU, especially if he desires a pro career. They may not be competitive for most of his stay due to sanctions, even though their coach is a former pro asst. Chryst, on the other hand, is a proven developer of offensive talent for the pros, and also did a stint as an NFL assistant. I am equally frustrated that we lost Apke, but maybe it just wasn't mean to be no matter who the coach at Pitt is.

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  34. Im not going to make excuses for chryst but I swear the last thing that people ever think of when they miss out on someone is that, maybe, just MAYBE they liked the other school better? profound, right?

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  35. He got an offer and excepted. He may have been told that it was a one shot deal. Accept the offer or we PSU move on. It is the timing I wonder about.

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  36. PK, couldn't agree more. Did we know beforehand where apke was leaning. Twitter was saying he wasn't leaning our way. That was the first time I heard that. Chris, have you heard any different?

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    1. Apke father played football at Pitt.
      Apke mother ran track at Pitt.
      Both receiving scholarships.
      Apke former HS football coach is Pitt's LB coach.. Haering.

      If Pitt can't land Apke, who can they land?
      Frankly, not landing Apke is worse from a perception perspective for wpial recruits than Shell transfering due to reasons stated above.

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    2. For all those reasons above, Apke picked PSU. For whatever reason he wanted to make his own path. Pitt was never in the discussion with him besides a few courtesy visits. Believe me.

      This was not a fault of Chryst. If anyone is at fault, it is the entire program for the last 30 years. These kids don't grow up Pitt fans because Pitt has not been any good.

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    3. You mean Pitt has never lost a legacy recruit before?

      Few people complained about Wannstedt's recruiting, but he lost on quite a few of them too (Heyward, Ricketts).

      And, as someone else mentioned, can you name the last productive Mt Lebo player who went to Pitt?
      Most kids from schools like Lebo, USC, NA won't consider the "dirty city school". Bisnowaty is the exception rather than the rule.

      And, it's not like he can't change his mind. Do we really care where Dorian Johnson 1st committed to right now?

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    4. I find it interesting how first Pitt fans want certain players... then when that player committs elsewhere... the excuses come out to defend Chryst and then say... well we didn't want him anyway.

      Apke is the #1 WR prospect in wpial... ranked around #10 or so overall... he has good size 6'2" and great speed... 11.11 in 100m. He also has good genes it seems as he comes from an athletic family background.
      Pitt will now have to look outside the wpial for a WR prospect that is remotely close to the level of Apke.

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    5. Good point about Pitt not being consisently good for close to 3 decades. But, for the record, to a 17 year old kid, how often has PSU been in the national title discussion? They had become a middle of the B1G program under Paterno before the Sandusky floodgates opened. They've done better than Pitt, but haven't been a great program for a long time. Apke didn't choose PSU because he loves watching them kick OSU's butt every year!

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    6. I think Original Ether nailed it. For the kids from the "upper crusty" suburban schools, PSU is far closer to the college experience they and their friends are usually seeking. Nothing right or wrong about it, just a fact. Pitt probably gets a lot of basketball recruits from inner-city environments because they feel more comfortable at a city school, but one that might offer more security than the area they grew up in. They get the best of both worlds in Oakland. To each his own.

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  37. Why is it Chryst is fault when a kid simply wants to play elsewhere. Do we always have to blame someone when an 18 year kid wants to play for another school and make his own legacy apart from his parents? I think it is really sad that we do that. I would love to have Apke or Foster here - C'mmon man. LOI is still a long way off and I am hoping he changes his mind but if not oh well so be it but I am not blaming Chryst for an 18 yr old decision. I am the Pitt staff formed a good relationship with the family but chose else where.

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  38. Obviously not all the kids at Lebo were enamored with Haering.

    PittofDreams

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  39. Chris,

    Have you heard anything yet about how Uchebo's visit went this weekend? Or, still too early to know?

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  40. I know this is a Pitt board...
    But read this in APP... figured worthy of a link.
    Mike Rice coaching 12 year old girls... just like Rutgers boys.

    http://deadspin.com/is-mike-rice-really-coaching-12-year-old-girls-now-472882380

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  41. Doke

    I just saw that Adam Zagoria of "Zags blog" posted that Oak HIll PF Lennard Freeman visits pitt the May 3- 5.

    do you know anything about this fella?

    thanks

    rich

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  42. Doke -
    Is there any reason to be concerned that Pitt FB is stuck at one commitment right now--and that from someone who initially committed to Graham? I want to believe in Chryst, but it would sure make me feel better if we could get some early momentum. When PSU, with all of its problems, seems more attractive, it makes you wonder.

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  43. Shell is going to UCLA...
    but the article on SBNation made me laugh... see quote below. What family does he have west of Beaver Falls... lmao

    Shell is expected to file for a waiver in order to play immediately. It is unclear at this point whether or not the NCAA would grant the waiver, but there are rumors that Shell experienced problems with both teammates and coaches last season, and could be moving west to be closer to family.

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    1. Its old news but I heard he's a pot smokin mooch who tells others players not to do what the coaches say and was dividing the locker room.

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    2. Some UCLA person posted this...
      Sal Alosi is the former S&C guy from Jets that tripped that player on a kickoff return.
      Will he make it to 1st day of class or quite before that?

      Mora like his guys to lift weights big time haha. Our S&C coach Sal Alosi's 5 am workouts and disciplinary programs are becoming legendary among UCLA fans. If someone is late, much less misses, a workout, the player's position group has to run an hour of wind sprints. Second offense, the player's entire side of the ball has to. Third offense, the whole team. Shell better not mess with Alosi, he won't win those battles and he'll become very unpopular with his teammates in a heartbeat.

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    3. Mora at UCLA runs a Junction Boys type summer camp...
      lol
      Shell is not going to last.. does vegas have odds on this... I'll bet big...

      http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/01/sports/la-sp-0802-ucla-football-camp-20120802

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    4. Accompanying the article about the Shell transfer in the Trib today, there was a picture of him and a caption alluding to his decision to transfer to UCLA being a "heady" decision for a 19 yr old. So, now running 3,000 miles away from your problems proves you are wise beyond your years? This is just plain embarrassing from a newspaper in a 2+ million metro.

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  44. Dokes,
    April 17 is the start of 2nd signing period for Basketball.
    That's tomorrow...
    4 scholarships available and only 1 has committed so far (Artis).
    That is Not a good sign.

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    1. It means absolutely nothing until the signing period is over If somehow Dixon ends up with Uchedo, Davis, and Severe to go with the three they already have, then it was a highly successful recruiting class.

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    2. In Chicken Little's .... excuse me, in Joe D's world everything at Pitt is seen as a red flag warning that the apocalypse is upon us. He breathlessly reports every bit of news as deeply troubling far in advance of reality.

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    3. Anony,
      College sports success is 2/3 recruiting.
      Many have stated, Dixon can't recruit. I'm not one of them... yet!
      He had 2 available scholarships since November..
      He should have 2 committs for 4/17.
      I don't expect 4... but at least 2. He only has 1.
      You have to question his recruiting abilities but too early to say until we see where the targets sign.

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    4. All I am saying is ready Chris's 9:47 post. If it doesn't start until tomorrow, today is not the day to proclaim anything.

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  45. Rushel Shell is trending downward and doesn't realize it.

    PittofDreams

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    1. He looks chubby in pics...
      LB is in his future... I said that when he was in HS.. but he needs to convert his fat to muscle.

      May need to run a poll on how long Shell lasts at UCLA.
      If he goes there for the summer, I'd say he doesn't make it past 9/1... but clearly won't make it past 12/31.

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    2. Wow! If LB is in his future, he'll never be tough enough.

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  46. Chris why are you silent on the loss of Apke?

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  47. Coulda been a contenderApril 16, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Apke isn't a loss, yet. Typical scenario is a kid gets pressured by a coach who says, "we have one wr schollie to offer". You are our first choice. You have until the end of the day to decide or we make a secondary offer. Oh, and by the way, you will be teamed up with a top 5 qb recruit from last year and a number 1 te too.

    Oh, and I failed to tell you, I am going to the nfl as soon as the right position becomes available. Oh, we had a 100 game losing streak snapped last year, so that is a positive. Goof grief, state penn.

    I do think it is still too early to worry about Apke. He is a smart kid and will figure out what is best.

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  48. On shell to UCLA, let's not forget how now UCLA coach Jim Mora Jr. coddled Michael Vick while coach of the Falcons with Vick openly admitting in last few years that he did not work out, study film, practice hard early in his career as a Falcon.

    On Apke, I have two thoughts - 1. shame on Apke's parents who benefitted greatly from Pitt experience for allowing their son to go to what they would know as a huge Pitt rival in PSU. 2. Are the alumni athletes from Pitt not feeling the love from Pitt anymore? That would be a big problem given the big number of high profile athletes from Pitt. Were any current and former Pitt NFLers at the spring game? Are they avoiding the program because of Stevie P?

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  49. It's signing day...
    How many LOI's were faxed in!!

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  50. Wow... Chryst finally said something...
    He slammed Shell indirectly.
    He used the term, "Addition by Subtraction" in an ESPN article after spring game.
    Good for Chryst.. I like it!

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  51. eli carter is a chance, would be nice, i do not think severe is coming here.

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  52. More bad news for Pitt BB. Looks like another terrible tournament draw next year.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

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    1. Pitt hasn't played a game yet and you are worried about next years bracket seeding??? smh.
      My concern would be "IF" Pitt will make the NCAA... with current roster, it ain't happening... but we are still waiting to see who the 3 new players will be.

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    2. Pains me to say it, but JoeD might be right ... UNLESS Pitt can somehow manage to recruit a big man (or three) who can play PF or C.

      Otherwise, your time might be better spent looking at CBI Tourney brackets.

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    3. So neither of you gets sarcasm when you read it.

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  53. Chandler Kincade just decommitted as of now no 2014 commitments.

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    1. That was expected... in a recent interview he stated he wanted to be the one!! Seems Pitt wasn't showing him the love by out there recruiting other QB's.
      Expect the Quip pipeline to go elsewhere this year.

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    2. Ok, lets look at the other side of things, who is showing Pitt the love?

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    3. Joe D: What's your problem??? You need to get a life.

      http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=141&f=2455&t=11477902

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    4. If Kellen Chryst comes to Pitt it's no big loss. I'd love to see Chryst's nephew in Oakland. That would awesome.

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    5. Every pro-style passing program in the country would probably love to have Chryst. PC would not have nudged Kincaide in other directions if he did not think there was at least a decent chance of landing his nephew. He apparently thinks his nephew is good enough that he is willing to risk losing a good talent in Kincaide, while also knowing he has Chapman and Voytik. It's a calculated risk, with plenty of upside. And, from what I read, Kincaide would still consider playing for Pitt if Keller Chryst chooses a west coast school. I don't see any mistake made here by Chryst. He is going for the high reward.

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  54. Chris:

    Now Joe D's spreading his half truths, propaganda and negativity to other Pitt forums. He needs to be shut down. Yes, he has a right to his opinion, but of course you don't have the right to scream FIRE in every Pitt theater.

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    1. I don't care if he has a negative comment. It's the same comments over and over again that I've started blocking with more regularity. In fact, I probably blocked 80% of them in the last week.

      Joe D. you can be negative all you want but I'm not letting in the same negative comments over and over again. We get your point!!!

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    2. Maybe that explains why he's moving on to other Pitt forums like Scout.

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    3. Thanks for monitoring Joe D., Chris. I wonder whether he's even a Pitt fan. When they do something positive, he still sees it as a negative. His Pitt glass is always 3/4 empty.

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  55. There's only 2 kids from Pennsylvania from ESPN's top 150 for football. Henry (#127) and Bookser (#140) - Not McKenzie

    I thought this was going to be good year for Pennsylvania recruiting. Atleast not according to ESPN.

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    1. ESPN is so renowned for their objectivity in all things sports that we should not suspect they are anything but totally accurate and completely above board in doing their rankings ... he said sarcastically.

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  56. Kincaid's reasoning and stance with regard to his decision are impressive.

    Shows both intelligence and awareness to say I'm pulling back but open to restarting the process.

    Would hate to lose the kid as he looks to be a legit quarterback and is reportedly a real leader within his circle.

    In the perfect world it would be nice to see Kincaid come in and be willing to compete with Keller Chryst or whomever.

    But the smart money is on Chryst coming to Pitt. You have to know that decision was already made when Uncle went public with the offer.

    PittofDreams

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    1. I don't think Keller Chryst to Pitt is a given. But, I agree that Uncle Paul has to know he and Pitt are in the final few choices, or he would not have offered. I think it comes down to whether Keller and his dad want him to stay close to home, where dad can monitor his progress to some degree, or whether they want him working full-time with the guy dad thinks is the best QB development college coach in the country (Uncle Paul). Could go either way, but Pitt should have a very good shot.

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  57. There are many very good prospects in Pa especially western Pa this year. Just not any real big time 5 stars but very good three and four stars for Pitt to recruit.

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    1. Take these ratings with a grain of salt. If they were great at talent evaluation they would be working for a team, not the Internet. There are about 8 kids in PA who can play for anybody. At least 8. Others may prove they can, too, when the time comes.

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    2. Thank you for injecting sanity back into the prospect rankings discussion, Chris.

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  58. Chris, you would have to think keller Chryst is a done deal in coming to Pitt if they are letting kincade go?

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  59. Jordan Whitehead of CV...
    Ran 10.8 in 100m at Beaver County Championship...
    It is hand time... but wowow... for a sophmore...
    Expect him to be a 5 star football recruit for 2015 class. He already has offers from several colleges.

    http://www.riversidetrackboosters.com/results

    Go to boys 2013 results.

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    1. Henry v Mckenzie...
      Quip v Prexies
      This weekend at South Fayette Meet on 4/27. It is FAT.

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    2. For those chatting about Shai McKenzie 100m times from his tweets. Those were hand times and you have to wonder the accuracy as I haven't even seen them post on Wpial track honor roll or anywhere. Allegedly getting a 10.7.
      Well, he ran a prelim 100m then pulled out of race on 4/20 at W/G County meet. I believe it was FAT.
      He ran 11.76.

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  60. Here's a little something for even the most ardent pessimists to consider as we enter the lull that comes with the end of spring football and fall camp being 4 months away.

    10 Reasons why Pitt and Chryst will surprise in ’13…

    1) No Tino – Certainly deserving of recognition for the improvement made under Chryst, the fact is Tino was not a winner. The streak of NEVER leading a comeback win in the second half goes back to his first start at Utah where he yelled for coaches to put the game on his back and promptly threw an interception. It never got better. The end of the first half against Cincinnati, the end of the game against Syracuse… both lost as a direct result of Tino being Tino when the pressure got too much. With Tino gone, I anxiously await Pitt’s first come from behind second half win this year.

    2) Much improved Offensive Line – Last year’s line was hindered by the fact that they were NOT the most athletic bunch. Lack of athleticism will not be a problem this year. Predict Clemmings will make a name for himself.

    3) Have you noticed that the defense is loaded with talent? Even House can’t mess this up, or at least you’d like to think so. Caprara and Price – there I said it again.

    4) The name is BLEWITT… I’m far from being alone here in thinking this kid is going to be a star. How can he not?

    5) James Conner – Tyler Boyd. These guys are football players. At 230, Conner is ready to make everyone forget about the guy who just bolted for the coast. After all, it’s Graham whose shoes need to be filled. Boyd likely to also help here. 5,700 yards in HS say while he might look like a receiver, the backfield might be where he really belongs.

    6) Did I mention “No Tino?” If Chryst can work wonders with Tino what do you think he can do with a 6-5 guy with a cannon of an arm? Savage to Street does have a bit of a ring to it.

    7) And it’s not just the WRs that will be seeing the ball. Like the offensive line, Tight End is also a position that looks to be deeper and better. A couple of touchdowns in the Spring game tell you Orndoff is as advertised… and you know what Holtz can do.

    8)Joe Rudolph. Many mistakenly thought Chryst was calling the plays. No, it was Rudolph. A year under his belt and it can only get better.

    9) Paul Chryst. Despite what some haters might say, Chryst ain’t no dummy. A year under his belt, I’ve got to think he knows a little more about what it takes to win. Yes, there was Youngstown State. But after getting his feet wet, Virginia Tech, Temple and Rutgers and the near miss at Notre Dame were the kind of complete team performances not Graham or even Wanny could have gotten last year’s Pitt team to produce.

    10) And the last reason Pitt will surprise in ’13… CONTINUITY! My gosh, it’s a beautiful thing.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Agree with points 1, 6, and 7, and to a lesser extent 2 and 3.
      Too early to tell about 4 and 5, though they could make a big difference.

      It's about time Pitt overachieves. They've underachieved for the past 8 seasons.

      Keep saying, Pitt needs to win 8 games.

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  61. Any further update on Pitt BASKETBALL recruiting.
    It's unlikely Severe selects Pitt, however, haven't heard anything on Davis and Uchebo.

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  62. Joe D...

    The following is a "must read" for any serious Shae McKenzie fan.

    http://www.observer-reporter.com/article/20130419/SPORTS01/130419089#.UXVOTK6wVHg

    PittofDreams

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    1. The 100m times in the article have not been verified anywhere. Not even Wpial track Honor Roll.
      He did run a 11.76 on 4/20/13. FAT. W/G County Meet.

      His shot put is impressive and he throws farther than Bookser and Grim.

      http://wpialboysaatrack.webs.com/

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  63. When do you see pitt beginning to land commitments. All other programs are landing talent while pitt's status is at "0" heading into month #???

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  64. I was all over Chryst for his unorganized approach and quite frankly timid effort starting out last year. To his credit he saw the light and went out and recruiting a very good class. I believe the program is much further along than last year and the recruits do have a higher interest in Pitt. The recruiting will be swayed to some extent by the performance this year. I do expect a very competitive team and for recruits to see what the progress is leading to. Would I like to see Pitt landing recruits, yes. But if everyone does their jobs, Pitt will have a very good class again.

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    1. I would just like to see him make offers early in the recruiting process to the no-brainers.
      Yes, he started off well this year...
      but he has slowed down and it shows in the number of offers. I'm not concerned about number of committments but I am concerned about the number of offers. Number of offers comparison.
      Pitt - 64
      Rutgers - 106
      OSU - 136
      UNC - 141

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  65. Maybe and I don't know this but it is conjecture on my part that Rudolph was a recruiter who wasn't a throw it out there guy.

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  66. Another big pitt target comes off the board Maurice ways to Michigan. So again Chris you keep saying when pitt wins the recruits will come. Well you cant win without top talent. Chryst cannot stand by while bigger programs land all the top talent. His recruiting tactics are not working. Pitt is doomed because chryst cannot recruit nor seal the deal when he has these recruits at some of the best facilities in the country. Now we see why Alvarez didn't come calling for chryst as coach. Need I remind you that it was Boyd's mom that prevented pitt from losing him. Penn St is on sanctions but it is pitt who is paying the price

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    1. It's WAY too early to worry. There are a lot of big time talent that Pitt is on. If Pitt misses out on all of them I will be the first one to scream it from the rooftops. But it's only April.

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