Monday, April 1, 2013

Rushel Shell transferring

Former top WPIAL recruit Rushel Shell has decided to transfer.  In my opinion, at this point, it's for the best.  On the field, Shell was injury prone, out of shape, and was having trouble learning how to be an all around running back.  Even if he did physically got better and ran for a lot of yards, it was clear that mentally he does not have what it takes to be a feature running back. Being a cancer on the team would negate a 1,200 yard season.  The Panthers are better off with Issac Bennett and Malcolm Crockett combining for the same 1,200 yards, and being great teammates,

Pitt will be better in the long run. I know maybe people think that the team will be worse off this year, but we don't know that for sure.  When people think of Shell they are thinking of a 1,200 yard rusher this season who will always be there to get the tough yards.  The reality is quite different. He's proven that he's not somebody that can be counted on and for that reason he was never going to be what Pitt fans think he will be.

Bottom line, there are many reasons why a kid would transfer, and most of them are for understandable reasons.  However, I see no good reason why Shell would transfer.  One cannot say that it's because of his home life because Pitt is already the closest school to home.  And one cannot say it's because of playing time because he was already a starter.  He didn't leave to help his NFL stock either.  His NFL stock will be damaged, not to mention his personal reputation.  That means Shell leave for petty reasons and somebody like that is better off not being in the program because cancer spreads.

127 comments:

  1. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
    I called it over a year ago calling him the next Marcus Dupree.
    It's his ego... his mom's ego.. etc.
    He wants to do they same as what he did in Hopewell.

    Here is a tweet from his babymoma.

    Marissa Pursley ‏@_rissarozay13

    Sitting here looking at my beautiful daughters wondering how someone could ever consider leaving #Selfish #somethingsneverchange !

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    1. I don't know if that's who she is referring to, but it sure looks like it. And his own mother retweeted it.

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    2. I picked up on the "some things never change"
      ie... his work habits or lack thereof... his ego... etc.

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    3. Joe D,

      No one who is a Pitt fan likes that he left after making a commitment to the school and team. So, everyone has a right to feel let down from that standpoint. But, let's try to remember that this is a kid. He is definitely a kid that needs to grow up and accept his responsibilities, which the mother of his children appears to be implying he is not doing right now. We all get that. He's probably compounding a big mistake by considering running off across the country. But, I think most sane people would also hope he gets his life straightened out and grows up and becomes a good man and a good father. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing he doesn't have a father at home to guide him. Maybe it is time to stop taking it so personally and attacking this young man as though he did something to you. No one expects you to agree with what he is doing, but it doesn't say much for a person when he gloats about another person's failures ... failures that are going to stick with him for a long time, and which are affecting not only him but his family. Enough is enough already.

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  2. We survived when The heralded Brian Davis left and we will survive without Shell. The team s bigger than one person. I'm glad the decision is made and doesn't linger on. Good luck to you Mr. Shell!

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  3. This whole thing is really strange. I am hearing that he intends to transfer to a California school. We would he want to go clear across the country? When Fraud left Shell tweeted that Fraud quit and he doesn't are time for quitters. Shell called Pitt his family no matter who the coach. Who's the quitter now.......

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  4. “It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can’t do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win.” - singletary

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    1. Mike Singletary. Great character guy, horrible coach. Harbaugh turned SF around immediately after Singletary was gone.

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  5. With that said it might do the kid good to get away from everyone kissing his ass and become a man. Just because he's a dad doesn't mean he's a man.
    Maybe he will get his shit together hit the weights, wake up and make it to the show. I wish him no ill will.

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    1. Well said. Let's hope he grows up elsewhere. In the end, that should be what we all want.

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  6. I think this will be a big lesson for Coach Chryst

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    1. for bending over backwards last week, assuming that he gave him much more leeway than he would have anyone else

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    2. I don't think PC gave him any leeway, to the contrary I think he told Shell this is how it is in this program, you decide what you want to do. If he had bent over backwards for Shell, he'd still be here.

      Have to give you props on this one Joe D., you were right about this kid. It's not as big a deal as it may seem, this kid doesn't want to put the work in that's required of a college, let alone D1 athlete, and this will follow him everywhere he goes as long as he plays football. Tough lesson to learn, but you have to learn them somehow.

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    3. walt,

      i agree.

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  7. Paul not getting a top back last year will prove costly this year. With injuries, what will we do when 2 RB's go down. Hopefully in another 3-4 years Paul will have some guys that know how to win.

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  8. now Pitt can pay back Fraud Graham ... it should block every school but ASU

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    1. And Fraud Graham's ego will prevail...
      payback for Shell's tweets about him (Graham) as well as comments made by Shell's mom. Graham will make him ride the bench... lol
      They are made for each other.

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  9. First off I have to say Joe D was right on in predicting this way back when Shell was a junior at ole Hopewell high!!!!


    @ Joe D- you need to check out the article in the Gazette about Andrew McCutchen. How his dad had a scholarship to play football but came back home to help raise him into a great human being. It was a great read!!!

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    1. He is following Marcus Dupree to a tee...
      Marcus transferred also... albeit midway through his sophmore season.

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    2. Has to be something making him run!!! Another women, another baby or something, it just doesn't add up!!

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    3. Reason he's leaving? He doesn't care all that much about football to work as hard as Chryst wants him to work. School doesn't appeal to him either.

      He's going to get as far away from his girlfriend the kids, the pressure of being a father and the city of Pittsburgh as he can. He's going out West where he can party and get laid for the next year without mom, his girlfriend, and local advisors looking over his shoulder. I wouldn't be surprised if he never sees the football field again....

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    4. Anonymous, part of your 10:54 comment is just plain rude. I guess it's easy to make disparaging remarks about a teenager you don't know when you yourself are anonymous.

      My opinion as a fan is that I'm glad he's transferring. For whatever reasons, he doesn't want to be at Pitt. So the sooner he leaves, the better.

      As a human being, I hope things eventually work out for him and his children. But from the outside, this looks like a bad move in many ways. He had the right coach, the right system, the right depth chart, the right location.

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    5. What I said preacher is a lot closer to the truth than you'll ever know....

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    6. Really? "dacevlt" is anonymous?

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    7. Really? "daceclt" isnt anonymous?

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    8. Everyone is anonymous here, except for Chris. Stop acting as though posting a first name or some initials, which may not have anything to do with someone's real name, gives you any more credibility than anyone else. We could all type in a false name and no one else would ever know.

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    9. Well, at least one can attribute a history of comments to a screen name like pk, daveclt, Imma, JoeD or the various incarnations of Dan. One can actually engage in a dialogue - healthy or otherwise - with someone using a screen name. But one has much, much less than that when dealing with "Anonymous"

      And I beg to differ... a screen name, consistently applied, gives that commenter more credibility than someone who won't leave a trail with a screen name.

      Its no coincidence that the vast majority of comments made by "Anonymous" are negative either.

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    10. Someone could create a duplicate or at least very close screen name to someone else.

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  10. Wondering how he is going to like going from a featured back to an unknown for an entire year. I hope he thought this entire thing through. I can't imagine another D-1 team not requiring practice, dedication, and competition. This kid is going to end up with a career other than football. That's a shame because he could have been a good one.

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  11. btw... I would pull the offer from Bookser of Mt. Lebo..

    the April Fools joke isn't going over well... and makes Pitt look like a joke.

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    1. It was not smart but he's a high school kid. Obviously pulling his offer would make Pitt look a thousand times worse.

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    2. He smartly tried to cover it up a little!! With his no disrespect comment to the Pitt community!! Yeah I agree he's young and obviously will learn from this simple little mistake!!

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    3. He has 30 other schools he can pick from...
      He didn't do Aprils fools to any of those now did he... and the timing coincides with Shell??
      and his former HS coach is assistant at Pitt..
      tells me a lot about character and respect.
      Let him go elsewhere.

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    4. Really? You want to pull his offer for this?

      It was a joke, and pretty funny too. You need to relax a little and get a sense of humor.

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    5. I'm with joe d on this one.

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    6. Joe D, he picked Pitt as the butt of his joke because it's the local team. He was trying to amuse his friends and classmates. Choosing Pitt would get the biggest reaction. I wouldn't read too much into it other than that.

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    7. Joe D is right again - don't take this kid. Way too immature.

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    8. longsufferingpittfanApril 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM

      What did the kid do?

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    9. Never thought I would agree with Joe D. about anything, but he is right. This is a big RED FLAG saying "pull the scholy."

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    10. JoeD - you've said a lot more stupid things online in the past couple years than that tweet. And one presumes you are over 35.

      If you did as I asked - and took his mom some pie from Kretchmar's....you could have sized him up and given us some real insight. Instead, we get a kneejerk... come on man.

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    11. honestly not sure why anyone is pissed about this. He's a kid and probably doesn't think that his tweet like that is going to be picked up by everyone in the city. let it go.

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    12. You guys are idiots if you think he was dissing Pitt. It appears to me that he was messing with the bloggers who don't confirm their stories before plastering them all over the internet. His April Fools tweet came 3 minutes after his original post on a private account. Way to confirm your story. I also think he was messing with guys like us who follow these boards and "live and die" with the tweets of a 17 year old kid. In the immortal words of William Shatner, "GET A LIFE!" Some of you are worse than Trekkies.

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  12. Chris, I'm wondering if you have seen anything like this in your experience. PC can 't seem to land or keep the top athletes. Even those in the program leave after a year. I know kids change their mind but this seems more than normal. Am I reading too much into this or is there possible something going on internally that should be explored?

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    1. I think he landed some great athletes, Chapman, Boyd, Johnson.

      He barely had any time with the prior class. Chryst is doing fine. We lost Foster to Alabama, and we lost Shell to his own ego (IMO).

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    2. But we had several highly regarded decommit like Clement, et al. Maybe this happens in all programs?

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    3. Transfers happen everywhere. The more talent you are bringing in the higher regarded talent also goes out. Look at ND and their transfers and decommits the last couple of years. Its part of college athletics.

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    4. http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/college-recruiting/2013/apr/01/sec-coaches-speak-troubling-trend-recruiting/

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    5. Maybe the men he inherited are staying, and the boys he inherited are fleeing.

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  13. I agree Chris. There is absolutely no good reason for Shell to transfer, so it must be for petty, personal reasons. He's seemingly running from something(s). He obviously lacks the judgment and maturity necessary to appropriately deal with his situation at Pitt.

    If he can't deal with his being a father, then he never should've had kids. If he can't deal with Chryst and staff putting demands on him, then he isn't the kind of player Pitt needs. I have a feeling we'll never hear about him again. I believe he's throwing away a golden opportunity, and will regret this someday.

    Clint Black once sang, "Wherever you go, there you are. You can run from yourself, but you won't get far." Shell can run as far away as he wants, but no matter where he goes, he'll still be the same immature kid who can't handle his business.

    In the long run, Pitt will be better off without him and his BS.

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  14. I just read Smizik's blog, and he wrote, "The Shell situation reflects poorly on no one." Wrong Bob. If Shell is leaving to get away from his obligations, and can't take criticism from Chryst and staff, that reflects very poorly on him.

    Yes, he's only 19, but his true character is being revealed, and he is severely lacking in it. Have we gotten to a place where we can't hold someone accountable for their irresponsible actions?

    I stopped posting on his blog long ago, but his idiotic statement deserves a response.

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    1. I think there is more to this, but maybe it is none of our business beyond the fact that he is leaving the school. To Pitt fans, that should be the end of it. If he is ruining his life, as well as not being a good father to his kids or whatever else he is doing, it is not affecting any of our lives. Our lives will be the same whether Rushel Shell reaches his potential in football or not.

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    2. This is a big local story. A hometown kid becomes the PA all-time rushing leader, is a nationally coveted recruit who ultimately picks his hometown school. He's then suspended for his first college game, then decides to transfer 7 months later under questionable circumstances.

      Of course this doesn't affect any of us personally, and it'll be Shell who has to live with this decision, but he's a high-profile player at a local Division 1 school. Commenting on it is reasonable and understandable.

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    3. I agree with you that commenting on a story is fine. But, I think you have to agree that commenting is not enough for some people, Dan. They want to know every personal detail, and a lot of people have decided to attack this kid endlessly when they really don't know much about him other than what they read on blogs. I don't like personal attacks on 19 year olds who are guilty only of bad personal decisions is all I am saying. Of course, it is a story ... a story of a kid transferring due to being immature. People that want him punished somehow are going a bit far. Just my opinion. I have kids, and I would not want them: a) to make such bad decisions as he appears to have; and b) if they did make such bad decisions, I would not want them attacked so much. I would want people to remember that they are kids who need to work on becoming responsible adults. He doesn't owe anything to any of us.

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  15. PC handle this situation correcttly. I feel real bad for the girlfriend being alone with twins. Man up shell, man up

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    1. Coach C. is absolutely handling this properly, IMO. We don't know what he actually said to Shell, but it appears he told him something to the effect that there are rules players must abide by or they must leave the school and team. Shell decided to leave. What the coach didn't do is then publicly pile on him endlessly, the way some Pitt supporters are doing.

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  16. Shell is a bad actor and if he wan't some prized recruit nobody would give a rats *** if he left. Chryst honored his scholarship but didn't recruit him. A new coach is stuck with players and recruits he didn't bring in. Shell is addition by subtraction. It will take another year before Chryst has a his recruits in place.

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  17. Here is the thing no one has mentioned...if Shelll was this kind of person, why did Chryst recruit him and allow him to be a part of the program?

    Chris you mention "out of shape" but I've never heard you mention this before. Why now? Sounds a lot like you are upset he is leaving and taking a parting shot.

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    1. Ex-girlfriends have a lot of faults that they didn't have as girlfriends, especially right after they dump you.

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    2. What are you talking about?

      Chryst DID NOT recruit Shell -- Fraud Graham did.

      Chryst SUSPENDED Shell for his first college game. That took guts, and it was a big red flag.

      Shell is obviously a troubled young man with some big problems.

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  18. Pitt will be fine without Shell. RB's are a dime a dozen, and only have so many carries, and he had almost 1000 maybe more in high school. This may open it up for McKenzie to jump on board, noone to share carries with.

    Also, Berranato is out for women's hoops. Only need to go down 5th Ave. to get there next coach: Suzie McConnell-Serio. She has the track record to do it.

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    1. Off topic, but since you brought it up I would quickly agree that Suzie M-S would be a great replacement. Hopefully, she wants to stay near home and would jump at the chance to lead Pitt's women into the ACC. I would feel badly for Duquesne, but the reality is some smart school will scoop her up because she may now command more than Duquesne can afford. It may as well be Pitt.

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  19. Doesn't make a lot of sense but whatever. I could not imagine a better scenerio for him football wise to be at Pitt with this coach.

    Are coaches supposed to kiss the a** of special athletes (granted if this were Clowney at South Carolina you do)? But what is the norm? It was written last week JD needs to recruit higher level players and suck-it-up and deal with the entourages of these kids. Are all coaches the same?

    dUbb

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  20. Chris, I admit I don't live in the Pittsburgh area, so I don't hear all the sports radio out there -- which I think is a good thing, actually -- and I'm puzzled by your comments that "it was clear that mentally he does not have what it takes to be a feature running back" and "He's proven that he's not somebody that can be counted on and for that reason he was never going to be what Pitt fans think he will be." To my eyes,the kid was a very good freshman running back who would grow. So can you explain the back story to your comments -- or are they based on the fact the kid is quitting the team?

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    1. He's been a spoiled brat since he's been at Pitt. He got suspended from his very first game. I was hoping that he would mature, but he only got worse. Last night on twitter he said people who were hoping he would fail would burn in hell. I mean, come on, you're a public figure. Take the high road.

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    2. Shell just doesn't get if...
      It's not hating. I don't hate the kid.
      But, his words and actions have consequences... when he was in HS, etc.. He has no respect for people. So the respect he gives is what he gets back in return.

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    3. Chris why are you saying he was a spoiled brat now? You haven't uttered a word of this until now. Why?

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    4. I don't want to be defending a person who has acted badly and appears to be making a mess of his life and the lives of those he should feel responsibility for. But, I doubt he has had a father figure in his life to help him become a man. I'm not saying that excuses bad behavior, but I also know that I would have made a lot more really bad decisions in the first 19 years of my life if I did not have a father to guide and teach me. He is a kid who has made dumb decision after dumb decision, and unlike the rest of us, his mistakes continue to be on full public display. That is not the case for 99% of the other 19 year olds who act immaturely. At this point, can you imagine how many horrible things have been written and said about him by people who don't know him and will never meet him, yet they feel it is perfectly acceptable to attack him at will? Don't you think that might be a tough thing to deal with at 19? Don't you think it might make you want to lash out at the people saying these things? He is showing a great lack of maturity partly because he has not matured as a man yet. I just hope he finds his way before he makes more stupid mistakes that could haunt him and his kids the rest of their lives.

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    5. Regardless of whether he didn't have a father figure or not, I have absolutely no respect for anyone that would walk out on their kids. That doesn't take maturity, just a conscience that most people are born with.

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    6. And you don't know that he has walked out on his kids. It is all heresay, which is why I choose not to accuse him of things that have not been confirmed.

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  21. Brian Davis was faster and a more talented runner, probably the best talent since Tony Dorsett and he threw it away. You only get so many chances in life. Shell has thrown away a great opportunity and he not smart enough to realize it.

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  22. One quick thought. How long has Shell been unhappy? Didn't he host Foster when on his visit this past year. Wonder if he put a bug in Foster's ear. Or if Fosters decision to go to Alabama
    affected his thinking?

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    1. People put way too much stock into that kind of stuff. At the end of the day, these kids make their own decisions. And by all accounts, Shell was fine at Pitt until they asked him to be a man. And that was just a few days ago.

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  23. This "kid" is a punk. I'm sick of reading all the condesending wish him well BS, we have 18 year olds dying in our military. I think about a NBA star I went to high school with, he was a stellar human being when he was in high school and as an adult who happened to be a great athlete.

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    1. The 18 year olds that defend our country are remarkably mature young people. They are the exception, rather than the rule. Holding every kid up to the standard of someone that is willing to go halfway around the world at 18 and put his life on the line every day is not realistic or fair. The 18 year olds that do that would be the first to tell you that what they are doing is not for everyone. Calling someone you never met, who so far as we know is only guilty of some dumb, personal mistakes that have not affected you is pretty gutless. Who gave you the right to judge someone like that?

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    2. So, everyone who doesn't have the stones at 18 to risk his life on a daily basis for his country is a punk? You are including not just Shell, but 99.99% of the young people in this country. That is a really high bar to avoid "punkdom." The 18 year olds in the military don't need you deciding who is a punk for them.

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    3. I think he was speaking about Shell specifically, and in that case I agree with him. If you knew the culture of the Hopewell football program from before Shell went through there, you'd be shocked that program produced this kid.

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    4. Just seems like a sad way to go through life ripping 19 year olds you'll likely never meet because they don't live up to standards you choose to set for them. His mistakes are on full public display. For most everyone else, not many people find out what dumb decisions we might have made at one time or continue to make. I have a boss who has told me what a screw-up he was through high school. Now, he's an exemplary person, business leader and role model. He grew up. Calling Shell a punk isn't necessary.

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  24. Imma Man! Im 40!April 2, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    That Tweet by the mother of Shell's little kids was sad. The problem with young men who need to grow up is that they usually don't admit/realize it until after they already have.

    Doke, is he heading to ASU? If not, where to?

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    1. I don't know where. It depends on where Pitt lets him go. Hopefully Pitt does the right thing and not let him transfer to Arizona State. I know other schools wouldn't allow it.

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  25. Look, I'll admit Joe D was right about almost all things he said about Shell, but there is no comparing the athletic ability or recruiting situation between him and Marcus Durpee.

    Marcus Dupree was the best player on the field as soon as he stepped on it the first time at Oklahoma. I remember looking forward to watching him play. I don't think anyone halfway across the US had the same thought about Shell. Shell couldn't beat out Ray Graham, are you telling me Dupree couldn't beat out Ray either? Dupree could have made an NFL roster out of HS, I highly doubt Shell would have.

    Shell has attitude, family and work-ethic issues. The same can be said about hundreds of HS stars EVERY YEAR. It is not unique to Shell and Dupree.


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  26. It's getting funny but actually sad...
    Mark Madden tweets about Shell.....
    gets reaction from Shell's mother... now get this... Shell's grandparents even got on twitter recently and they are bashing Madden also...
    smh

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    1. Correction.. I think it's his uncle and aunt... not grandparents.

      and Shell's twitter exploded just now! wow.. smh..

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    2. Until recently, grandma pretty much ran the show with him and I can't see her being happy about this.

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    3. Let it go. He is leaving Pitt. Your lives all remain intact. He has to work out his problems, or continue to run from them. Either way, they are his issues. He is not a professional football player. He is a freshman in college.

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  27. Joe D,

    One add to your comments which have otherwise been spot on regarding Shell. You originally put him in the same class talent wise as Marcus Dupree... which was way off the mark.

    Dupree was 6-3 and ran a legitimate 9 something 100 yard dash. Shell was never fast and after hitting the weight room, barely quick enough to be a game-breaking tailback in the mold of players much less talented than Dupree.

    If you remember, before Shell ever carried the ball for Pitt... I compared him more to Maurice Clarett... an accurate comparison given what we eventually saw from Shell on the field.

    Now, given what's transpired with Shell, the Clarett comparison looks to be even more in the cards for this kid, meaning a short-lived college career and "NO NFL."

    You might remember I also stated back then that Shell is not a Dupree, not a Dorsett, or even a Brian Davis. He is simply not in their class of a tailback with the kind of high-end speed it takes to be a real game-breaker.

    Bottom line about Shell... the only thing that's going to be really missed about him is the problems he would cause come fall.

    In my opinion and obviously a growing number of Pitt bloggers, the team is better off.

    PittofDreams

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    1. When I compared Shell to Dupree... it was based upon the documentary... Dupree's lack of work ethic, etc.
      What Dupree did in HS was similar to Shell... did it all, punt returns, kickoff returns, rb, etc.
      People thought Shell was fast... I said he wasn't. Don't confuse quickness with speed. People watched his HS tape to guage his speed... and I said... you are comparing to wpial db's who are slow, slow, slow (generally speaking).
      He has quick feet and a stiff arm... but if he doesn't put the work in he won't amount to much. He never lifted in HS and was proud of that!!
      I'm curious as what coach will take a chance on him now...
      very sad.. but not unexpected..

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    2. Time for Tyler Boyd to hit the weights.

      PittofDreams

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  28. This is a sad situation all the way around. Assuming that most of the comments and speculation on his attitude/work ethic/etc are accurate, I feel really bad for his kids. As far as Pitt is concerned, I'm glad he won't be a distraction much longer. I just can't understand how he thinks this will be better for himself to go West and start over unless it is all family related. There is no way that he is going anywhere on the football career side without working HARD and having desire and drive. Maybe he is going to get out of football altogether and didn't want to deal with all the local bashings he would take by doing so. It won't be news in Pittsburgh when he goes to UCLA or wherever and sits out next year and never plays again. Who knows.

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  29. Prediction... while I don't think he'll start, at least not right away... James Connor is going to turn out to be Shell's replacement as far as role goes.

    From what I've seen, he looks to have the kind of mental toughness that gives him even more upside than Shell.

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  30. News Alert...
    Listen to the Mark Madden show at 3pm...
    It wouldn't surprise me if all the Zuccaro's and Rushel phone in..
    they are going at each other on twitter...
    Madden is enjoying it saying it will make for a great show at 3.
    I don't see a BCS D1 school touching Shell and his family after today's debacle on twitter.

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  31. Dokes, maybe you can comment on this and see if it has any validity per your sources. A source close to the university told me this morning that PC promised the starting job to Shell after last season. This was unconditional and Shell was to be the man. I understand that Shell actually began to train show commitment. Suddenly at the start of spring practice, PC changed his plan and told Shell the RB spot was open and a starter won't be named until fall. This really upset Shell and an argument ensued with the coach. Shell said he felt betrayed and lost all respect for PC. If this is true, this goes against all we have been told about PC that one must compete for playing time and position. We know these elite athletes have fragile egos. I hope this event doesn't cause further detention on the team. Is this why some of Shell 's friends have also threatened to leave?

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    1. If you've looked at this roster and their recent results, I can't see how PC would promise a starting job to anyone. It was pretty much presumed that Shell would be the starter, that doesn't mean he shouldn't have to put forth the effort and earn it, which this kid has a reputation for not being able to do.

      If his friends want to join him, don't let the door hit you where He split you on the way out.

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  32. bad for the team to let someone start who is not working as hard as others who are not that far behind him. yes, he would be the started if he was working his butt off without question, but he is not doing that. everyone likes his ability and wants the best for him, hard though, when he see's football, school. girlfriend, kids, not that fun for him. getting away is vacation to him, no nagging girlfriend, no kids, in his mind he'll make it better and make it to nfl and take care of everyone with a paycheck. we shall see, but it's hard to avoid the fun at college and the rock star life one can have. he wants that and thinks he getting robbed of his college life and is doing everything for everyone else but himself. and guess what u know there are people out there telling him that he is right and come over here and you can have it all plus we will help u with the kids, gf etc

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    1. Well, if thinks he's doing everything for everyone else but himself, guess what, that's the price of a scholarship to play D1 football. It's also the responsibility of a father, whether he likes it or not.

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  33. Had a quick look at Shell's Twitter page. The header says "Living As God Tells Me," So if he's abandoning his daughters - which is how it looks - did God tell him this??

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    1. shell doesnt care about nobody except himself

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  34. Fact: Shell was good enough to start in the backfield for the next couple of years.

    Fact: Shell is no longer a Panther.

    Fact: Shell has turned his back on his family and is completely allright with it.

    Fact: Nobody likes this kid.

    Going forward...........the primadonna will drift from school to school and finally surface as a reserve running back at Cal U., for one season. Good riddance Barry Bonds. I mean Rushel.

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    1. Barry Bonds leaving was the precursor to Pirate baseball falling into the crapper. That was more an indictment of the Pirates than the player. Unfortunately the way Pitt runs its football program, there may be some similarities there.

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    2. Yeah, because Barry Bonds never amounted to anything after he left.

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    3. This situation says much more about Shell than about Pitt. If Coach Chryst is attempting to instill discipline, and Shell can't handle that, it's Shell's problem.

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  36. I'm not optimistic about the football program at all, and this is just another indication that the ship continues to sink.

    The best local talent goes elsewhere. An upcoming local elite talent mocks the Pitt program with an April Fools joke. The best player transfers (the fact that he was the best player is perhaps an indictment itself).

    Since Wannstache was let go and the head coaching job at Pitt subsequently became a fiasco, the atmosphere around the program has plummeted. It was obvious that when Graham left the football program was in serious trouble, and to salvage it in the short-term, the next coach would have to win big, and right away. Perceptions of the program had to change immediately to stem the tide of a sinking ship. There aren't any indicators that this is happening.

    The biggest problem Pitt created was firing coaches they were willing to afford for not doing "enough", exhibiting a complete lack of understanding of the market they were dabbling in for coaches. The VAST majority of coaches in Wannstache's pay-range are either there because they are unproven, or there because they've proven to be capable of Wannstache results. Additionally, just like the basketball program, the university is oblivious to the need for quality assistants, so it short-changes those positions. As it's been well-pointed out on this blog, the university justified "letting go" of its previous SIX coaches because of substandard results. But then they hire from a market full of "substandard" coaches.

    One thing the administration has made clear is that they understand that when 9-3/8-4, 3rd-place finishes are the best a coach can do, Pittsburgh fans in general, and Pitt fans specifically show very little-tolerance, call bs, and stay home. What's less clear is their level of competence to deal with those expectations. They are either oblivious to the level of expenditures necessary to win at the highest level, unable to raise the funds, or unwilling to pay for a coaching staff who can match the expectations of fans - thus playing us all for fools with marketing gimmicks to cover up a substandard product. The first two reek of incompetence, the latter is shrewd. Any way you look at it, they're not doing enough to make Pitt football better. And over the last three years, have manage to severely damage the program. And now, no matter what they do, they've backed themselves into a corner where stabilizing the program trumps actual on-field success. They need a body that will stay for a couple of years, regardless of winning because another coach leaving quickly returns us to early 1990's Pitt football.

    I don't see any way where this program can be successful without stopping the bleeding slowly first, or letting it die and rebuilding it again. That's what the next few years will be about.
    In my estimation, things are going to get worse before they get better. The question is how much worse?

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    1. Very well written post. I couldn't agree more with you. It all starts at the top and Pederson should've been let go after the coaching debacle. Furthermore, everyone can rip Wannstedt all they want, but he produced more wins than anyone else in the last 30 years. His problem was the poor game-day management. Had he swallowed his pride and hired an assistant to essentially run the team, he might still be here. Wannstedt was an incredible ambassador of Pitt and well respected in the region. Pitt athletics and more specifically Pitt football has lost its luster locally. Not many people want to go watch these guys especially since a lot of the top local talent doesn't want to come here.

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    2. An alternate viewpoint of the football program:

      “Nice guys finish last”…that’s the phrase that I thought best described Paul Chryst when he first arrived at Pitt. But after seeing him suspend several players last season, lose his temper over a lack of effort during spring drills and appearing to not cut a five-star prima donna any slack, I’d have to say that “tough SOB” seems to be a much more accurate description of the guy.

      I think that the days of Pitt teams that were loaded with promising prospects that often underachieved are coming to an end. In its place is going to be a roster full of players with an attitude and desire that is best exemplified by this quote about LB and Chryst recruit Mike Caprara: “They’re going to need a crow-bar to pry him off the field.” That is the type of player that I believe Coach Chryst covets and will continue to recruit. For a change, Pitt is going to eventually become a team of overachievers that will be a formidable opponent to everyone on their schedule.

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    3. IMO Pederson knew he made a mistake within 5 days from firing Wannstedt when he found out something he should have known before the firing -- just what a bargain Wannstedt was, and that Pitt couldn't afford to play with big boys.

      The hiring of Haywood was as big a joke as his hiring of Calhoun at Nebraska, and if Pitt was the FB school that Nebraska was, Pederson would have been long gone.

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    4. When SP let Wanny go, we were 7-5 and Big East co-champions. If you remember we just came off of a 10-3 season. Pitt football had dramatically improved from when Wanny took over. Post Wanny we haven't had a winning season and we lost both bowl games.
      Ironically when SP left Stolich go at Nebraska, he was 9-3 and #18 in the final coaches poll. Post Stolich era was just like Pitt's and didn't change until SP left to return to Pitt. We are still in a decline and will end up in another losing season.

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    5. Wanny also saddled Pitt with Sunseri nepotism, which has crippled both Graham and Chryst. That and his renegade attitude toward discipline got him the axe.

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  37. If Dave Wannstadt coudl've held at 21 point second half lead at home, he'd still be coaching at Pitt. What a tragedy?

    Agree with everything in this post. Pitt will be lucky to win 5-6 games next year. We are in for a long, long time of disappointment with Pitt football.

    Fortunately, in B-ball they've locked in Dixon and didn't make the same mistake they made in firing Harris and Wannstadt.

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    1. Maybe they actually earned something from the Wannstadt debacle. We can only hoe so but I agree, we are in a long struggle with football.

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    3. Wannstedt deserved to be fired. He ran a discipline-less, renegade program, and I'm not just saying that because one of his players nearly ran me over on a sidewalk in Oakland.

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  38. Interesting how Yahoo sports came out with the Shell transfer announcement and story about Clarett at the same time.
    Interesting read.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--maurice-clarett-prepping-for-one-more-comeback-152117424.html

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  39. Wanny just isn't a good coach. Now Chryst has a track record of success that he was responsible for. Wanny left every football team worse than when he came with the possible exception of Pitt. Remember Pitt did go to the BCS before he took over. I think Chryst has improved leaps and bounds and will turn the program into a respectable program. Shell is just a blip on the Radar.

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    1. Lets see, Chryst really did make a difference. A losing season, a loss to D2 team, nd a blowout loss in a bowl game. Yes we are much better off.
      Shll will be a huge loss to this team. Elite athletes tend to raise the ability of everyone around them. No matter what is said, Shell was truly an elite athlete and the best rcruit Pitt has had in 10 years. Chryst will be one in three years.....

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  40. Way OT….but former Pitt assistant Rice is in hot water (no pun intended)

    http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9125796/practice-video-shows-rutgers-basketball-coach-mike-rice-berated-pushed-used-slurs-players

    I wonder if he did this at Pitt practices?

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  41. Trey Zeigler transferring according to Twitter. Can't say I am upset. Would rather see his minutes go to Durand or Chris Jones.

    Problem is Pitt now have five scholarships available and only two spots taken with Newkirk and Young. Maybe they get Severe for another. Are they really going to fill those last two spots with worthy players? They may be better off holding one or both until the following year when the supposed connections with New England that Barton "supposedly" is bringing to the table may finally pay off.

    Chris, could you do a write-up on Pitt basketball recruiting if you get a chance, with some names for 2014?? Haven't heard much at all about names they are involved in for that year. Thanks.

    Mac

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  42. I'm beginning to believe we are cursed or some sort of spell cast upon us.....anyone know a voodoo artist.

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  43. Well Pitt fans you can continue to debate the shell issue,the wanny issue,the pederson issue till the cows come home..it is what it is...pc took the stance of what was best for the overall team regardless of the "potential " talent that we could lose. pc is the decision maker and you have to stand by him because he and the staff have all the facts...wish mr. shell well and move on...I personally would want to go into battle with people that had the discipline and belief what i was saying was best for all involved...if rs stays he is obviously unhappy and the cancer grows...cut it out and it is a simple addition by subtraction..limit him to no acc schools and to not go to asu with fraud...bon voyage mr shell we hardly knew ye...but we did know what you gave up on...HAIL TO PITT!!!

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    1. Well said. Be glad that, from a football standpoint, he will be some other program's problem now.

      Nothing wrong with hoping a 19 year old, who obviously has a great deal of maturing to do, starts to do exactly that and gets his life in order. Wishing him ill will because he has made mistakes or has been bad for Pitt football does not reflect well on anyone.

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  44. I am more than fine with Shell transferring. What upsets me most is that despite it now being official that he will be transferring, he still represents the program in the interim and he & his family's behavior on twitter is an embarrassment to the program. To me, PC did his job to drive to a decision and what happens after the decision is the responsibility of the athletic department. Steve P, get your s... together and do your job. You have some leverage with the kid, we can make the transfer easy or hard, put the screws down on the kid and his family as they still represent the university.


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  45. Word on the street is that Chryst laid down the law and Shell was not willing to abide. As a result, the door was open.

    Chris, do you have any information to support this?

    PittofDreams

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    1. I've said that from the beginning. It all has to do with Chryst trying to get Shell to be a man, and Shell wanting to stay a baby. I was talking to Shai McKenzie because he asked me what happened, and I flat out told him that Shell didn't do what was asked of him and that's what you have to do when you're the man.

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    2. It is easy to find fault when PC appears to not be as proactive and aggressive with recruiting as we would hope. But, it certainly seems that when he needs to speak frankly and honestly with an individual player he does that very well. That is to the benefit of the program and to the young person involved, whether the information PC has to dispense is considered good news or bad for the player.

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    3. while i was not blessed with the athletic skills to ever be considered a division one phenom i was young once and in the job market for the first time..my parents prepared me by telling me do what you are told as long as it is not an ethical conflict...when your new boss tells you to do something you have two choices, comply to learn and grow or leave to find another path that better suits you in your life..obviously rs has decided to take another path..a path that he feels is one that will ultmately take him to where he wants to go..my wish for him is hopefully it does..experience in life tells me otherwise....good luck rs...HAIL TO PITT!!

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  46. It all seems to be an accountability issue from an improper upbringing. Being a child you are taught right from wrong and the consequences if you choose wrong,if the punishment is just and harsh enough you will not do it again. Being spoiled and always getting your way doesn't prepare a person for life and the maturity to make rational decisions! In shells case you have a potentially talented athlete that was always told "you're going to be great " when he did wrong shit was brushed up under the rug and chalked up as a kid being a kid. Now to his mom how can you say you have taught your son to man up and be a father when you didn't lay down the foundation as I've stated. Shell has no clue how to man up or handle adversity. It's obvious that he didn't look up to ray Graham or follow his lead, the only player to speak on the matter was a loud mouth (cam saddler) a player who didn't have a good d1 career at pitt. Football players play ball and for a young man to say football wasn't fun for him at pitt anymore truly screams out that football is no longer in his heart and that is a big red flag. Now we see why the kid never considered going to Alabama because he would have to compete and work his tail off to play for coach Sabin.

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