Friday, April 5, 2013

Shell prevented from schools

As a condition of his release, Rushel Shell has been prevented from transferring to Arizona or Arizona State.  Reportedly California and UCLA are two schools in the Pac 12 that he's considering.  Obviously, in addition to Arizona or Arizona State, he is also not allowed to transfer to any ACC schools.

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  1. The ban against Arizona and ASU tells me that Pederson and not Chryst was the final say on this.

    Being the kind of guy he is, believe Chryst would have simply cut ties with Shell and let him go wherever.

    ASU obviously reflects the bitterness between Pitt and Graham.

    As for Arizona, maybe reaction to some tampering by Rodriguez?

    Whatever the case, seems Shell may have for wanting to move to the state of Arizona. Maybe something personal? Or maybe he just likes the idea of playing in a spread offense, who knows?

    PittofDreams

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    1. Didn't you know.. Shell has relatives in Arizona!
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      WVU should be on the list also with Gibson now on WVU staff.

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    2. Didn't know about the relatives. Was thinking more along the lines of "girlfriend."

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  2. 1. I'm surprised WVU is not on the list.
    2. He is allowed to go to any school although he would have to pay to go in the 1st year to the schools he is blocked from... which is an oxymoron in Shell's case. Based upon his financial need, he could get tuition, room, and board paid for 100%... and I'm not talking loans. Those blocked schools can't give Shell an athletic scholarship for year 1. So, it won't prevent Shell from going to ASU for instance. Frankly, it doesn't matter where he goes as he will be a bust.

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    1. I think WVU is on the barred list, too. As is Penn State.

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    2. Penn State...
      wow... reason for that?? Is is teams on the future schedule which PSU would be one of them?
      he must have really pissed off someone in Football department for PSU to be on the list.
      I can see Arizona, WVU, ASU... and ACC teams... but don't know why they would PSU. I would gift wrap him to PSU with a bar of soap!

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    3. Theoretically, Pitt will play Penn State when Shell is a redshirt senior. It's common practice to prevent a player from going to a future opponent.

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    4. I guess it doesn't matter, since he is barred from WVU. But, are they even a good fit? With their offense, wouldn't they prefer a smaller, quicker back? Actually, he should pick a school that runs an offense like Pitt. Oh, that's right. He was at Pitt.

      Physically, maybe he's a good fit for the pro-style offenses of the SEC. Attitudinally, he may not fit anywhere at this point.

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    5. Joe D,

      In the off-chance he gets his head screwed on right and actually realizes some of his potential, I don't think they want it being rubbed in their face every week if he does well at PSU. Not everyone is 100% convinced he is a complete, total and hopeless bust as a football player. Some schools will show interest. PSU may not, but they definitely need players. He may never grow up, but if he does (which is possible) he could still be a very good college RB.

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    6. Anonymous...
      Anything is possible and I was hoping he would turn it around at Pitt. I thought the twins would serve as motivation but it hasn't. He actually started lifting/conditioning in February of his SR yr in HS... but that lasted a whole 2 months. Past behavior is usually a good predictor of future behavior!!
      He may have 2 kids but he has a LOT of growing up to do... it's not HS anymore!

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    7. The odds would certainly seem to be in your favor with your prediction of Shell at this point, Joe D. But, if I were Pitt I would not allow him to transfer to PSU, either. There is no upside to that for Pitt.

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    8. Joe, it doesnt surprise me to read that you presume to know what Shells FAFSA looks like. Likewise for your assumption that grants would cover tuition, room, and board for an out of state student. Just more fodder for the novel of clueless posts that follow your name.

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    9. biggcliff...
      Yes I do... you know the ole saying... doesn't have a pot to.... well, that's Shell's mom. Even said such in ESPN article.
      Furthermore... babymomma parents don't want to continue to support 3 (babymomma plus twins). Babymomma lives with parents... and it wouldn't surprise me if parents force babymomma to apply for child support.
      Now you get the financial picture? he can get a free ride to any school regardless of athletic aid... regardless of Pitt blocking.

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    10. So let me straight...Shell can get unlimited fianancial aid to any school because the parents of the mother of his children dont want to support the mother anymore??? Cmon Man.

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    11. bigcliff...
      you obviously lack reading comprehension...
      Shell can get a free ride to any college in US based upon financial need.
      - His mother lives paycheck to paycheck... ole saying.. doesn't have a pot to piss in.. do I need to spell it out for you?
      - Expect Shell to get hit with child support... at babymomma parents insistence!!

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    12. I can comprehend very well. Im saying what you wrote, that everything else you say is ill-formed, misguided, and down right idiotic. You are pretty much clueless about anything that isnt a copy and paste of track times. And to be clear, im saying you are 100% incorrect in your stance that shell can go anywhere and have a free ride. Its just not a factual statement. At least you amended your stance on her parents reluctance to help being part of his EFC.

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    13. bigcliff...
      really...
      I think I hit the nail on the head regarding Shell... starting 2 years ago... I called him the next Marcus Dupree unless he changes his ways.
      Sorry you don't like my opinions that happen to be spot on most of the time... and based on facts. Regarding Shell getting a free ride to any college based upon financial aid, that opinion is based upon facts.
      You obviously lack reading comprehension skills as you don't know how to decifer between opinion and fact. I cite an opinion and backed it with facts.

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    14. I think it is quite possible that if a school plans on offering an athletic scholarship to Shell in 2 years, and he meets their hardship financial requirements for academic scholarship in the year he would sit (next year), it is possible he could enroll and go to that school for free next year. There are plenty of kids who, out of financial need, attend college for free. In the case of a potential scholarship athlete that the school covets, I think it is logical to assume they could find a way. I'm not saying I know all of this for a fact. I'm just speculating that it seems logical to me.

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    15. I have to remind myself who you are soometimes. I forget youre the same clueless "my opinion is fact" troll that absolutely ruined Zeise blog in the same attention whore fashion you are doing here. The only FACT you've stated was Shell can apply for aid. Everything else was your opinion or an assumption you couldnt factually support. The attempt at being condescending was another in a library full epic fails your name has became synonymous with. Stop talking. I dont want to lose any more IQ points

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    16. So all someone has to do to get a free college education is have a child out of wedlock, and not attempt to find any kind of work. Why aren't more people doing this?!

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    17. Anonymous 9:45,

      Yeah, that is pretty much what was said ... by no one. What an idiotic statement on your part.

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    18. Not said -- but certainly implied. What is the nature of Shell's "hardship" if not that? Use your brain...

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  3. I'm a firm believer that the team is way better off without him. I'm so sick of reading Pittsburgh media saying that he is a huge loss, most talented recruit in long time, face of the program, blah blah blah. Yeah, we want local talent, but not at the expense of the team. I'm not going to sit here and pile on the kid either. I hope he gets things straightened out. I really do. This is a sad situation now and a lot of the "fans" in people has created a lot of ill-will towards Shell and family. I hope he goes West and figures it out and matures. But best guess says we don't hear about him on the football field again.

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    1. Well said. No point in wishing him ill-will.

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    2. I agree Pitt is better off without a malcontent who potentially would be a divisive presence. I'm glad Chryst wasn't going to tolerate his nonsense. That tells me he's very serious about putting his stamp on the program.

      I too hope he matures, gets his act together, and becomes a productive member of society. He owes that at least to his daughters. Nothing good comes from a father abandoning his kids.

      Having said that, I believe the criticism leveled at Shell for how he's handled himself at Pitt is warranted. He's shown himself to be someone with character and commitment issues.

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    3. I say; "who cares". This kid was suspended once, appears to be fat and out of shape, and is quite immature and selfish to be leaving his baby mama and twin girls behind, I WILL GUARANTEE to everyone that this kid will be an irrelevancy in the future. Let's move on. GO PITT!!!

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    4. I say; "who cares". This kid was suspended once, appears to be fat and out of shape, and is quite immature and selfish to be leaving his baby mama and twin girls behind, I WILL GUARANTEE to everyone that this kid will be an irrelevancy in the future. Let's move on. GO PITT!!!

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    5. And what, exactly, is your guarantee to all of us? He has issues, obviously. You have no idea what wil become of him.

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  4. How can they justify blocking Shell's transfer to ASU when they allowed Lloyd Carrington to follow Graham there? I think Carrington is from Dallas so the "closer to home" argument didn't really apply.

    Also, do all of these transfers count against Pitt for not having guys graduate (from Pitt)?

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    1. Check a map. Arizona is a whole lot closer to Dallas than Dallas is to Pittsburgh.

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    2. Fool me once... you know the saying.

      I think Pederson stepped in.. no more Mr. niceguy!!
      Curious about what Pitt did regarding other transfers in the past under Chryst... this may be the first block.
      What about the kid Jackson (DT) from Ohio? Any blocks?

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    3. those are former coaches their. they allowed a player to go over, but now their could be a image that if something does not go right at pitt, their is asu and a former coach they they played for or recruited him to come over. also, we all know their would be no way graham would do anything that would be considered unethical to try to lure a top 10 rb in the country that he recruited when he was here. if u ever say the show he was on when he was at tulsa that showed him talking to recruits u would be surprised. i did not know who he was at the time but i said to myself this guy is as big as they come at throwing bowl shit out there. u would laugh if he was not serious. blocking his way to former coaches is not only legal it would be frowned upon by other programs if they did not.

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  5. Cal...doubtful. Higher than average academic standards. Mr Shell wants to play football without having too much study time in his apth.

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  6. We don't know the whole list. That is only a partial.

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  7. If I had to guess I would say that Shell wants the glamour and spotlight of playing at USC.

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    1. I was thinking the same thing about USC. Another pro-style offense.

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  8. One other name is probably on the list, WVU. One because its WVU and two, Gibby is back there again.

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  9. I understand the list may include all ACC schools plus all other schools Pitt is scheduled to play in the next 4 years plus any school with a coach or coaches who were at Pitt when Shell was being recruited. The latter in order to discourage tampering (either actual or possible).

    As mentioned, he can still go anywhere he wants but just cannot be on an athletic ship during the year he has to sit out if he goes to a school on the list of schools for which Pitt is unwilling to grant a release.

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  10. Carrington didn't tell the coaches to f off. So they harbored no ill will towards him. Shell did

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  11. Somebody text me that its Arizona State for Shell. Can anybody confirm that. I'm not sure why but I'm intrigued on where he goes and will watch this saga play out!

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    1. If Shell goes to ASU now that Pitt black-listed them, then he's gotta pay his own way (no scholarship, and -- correct me if I'm wrong -- not even any financial aid due to hardship, etc.).

      Even if his family is comfortable (except I thought they were poor?), dude would need to have his head examined if he walked away from a full ride to pay his own way as a walk-on. Plus pay out-of-state tuition to boot.

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    2. Uncle Todd is there!!! I'm sure he can find a few dollars to help some poor child out!!

      In all seriousness though, ASU I thought I read had the number one running back out of the state coming in next year. Good luck where ever he goes!

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    3. Imma 40...
      No athletic scholarship...
      however, Shell can apply for any and all other financial aid available to any other student. If he wants to got to ASU, it would still be a free ride based upon financial needs. Therefore, Shell can go to ASU if he wants.

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    4. Joe D, if you're correct (and you're not), why would any school ever use a football scholarship on a low-income student? Just have the low income athletes get full rides based on financial need and use the scholarships for students who can afford to pay some or all of the tuition.

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    5. 2 reasons come to mine why they don't...
      1. Title 9. They need to max out football scholarships at 85 otherwise it affects other sports. If they say give out 60, then they would need to cut athletic aid in other sports to balance men and women.
      2. Paperwork... it's easier and you are competing against other schools offering a guarantee (sort of) 4 yr ride versus walkon and apply for financial aid. Financial aid is different every year so the players circumstances could change, etc. therefore risk.

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  12. Why would anyone at Pitt do anything to benefit Todd Graham? Or for Rich Rod's "rent a staff" coaches, who grabbed a quick pay check at Pitt and then bolted, as soon as Rich Rod got the Arizona job. Besides, isn't tampering against NCAA rules?

    By the way, who the %#@% is Shell?

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  13. Shell's attorney may be able to present a strong argument for ASU in their appeal to the NCAA.

    Although not technically precedent, the fact that Pitt did not prevent LLoyd Carrington from going there in August could be viewed as much.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Pitt doesn't have to release him at all so good luck with that lawsuit.

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    2. First, Shell's mom doesn't have the money to pay for an attorney so the first question I would ask is who is paying the attorney.

      Second,Pitt could ask for all the cell phone records of Shell and his mother and any other cell phones they may have access to!!

      I don't think ASU and Graham want to be dragged through the mud again with tampering.

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    3. Joe,

      Attorneys are free, especially for high-profile cases that offer them notoriety.

      PittofDreams

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    4. POD
      I don't think that would be permitted by NCAA...
      that would be accepting a "benefit".. even if no charge.. it is a cost perse. No different than accepting free tickets to a ball game... and shell will be forced to pay what the going rate is. Attorney can't even do it at a "cheap rate" perse.

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    5. Pitt is playing by the rules, therefore no lawsuit. Pitt can allow Carrington and say no to Shell. That is the way it is.

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  14. Anyone warching this st Benedict game ? Did I see right that young has 16 points and 8 rebounds at the half?

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    1. 15 and 6. I kept trying to tell people that he's the real deal.

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    2. I think you are right about Young, Chris. And I sure hope so, because the recent article by Kevin Gorman basically said that Dixon is not worried, and neither should we be by the fact that the roster now has one player over 6'6" because Jamie has been in this position before and found "gems" (not my word) like Ontario Lett and Antonio Graves. In fact, Dixon likes having scholarships open in the spring for this reason.

      So, anyone thinking he is changing one iota of his ways, I think his statements are a caution. Lett was a solid front court player, and Graves was a contributor. But, you don't leave scholarships open hoping to find guys like them because you run the risk of winding up with players that are worse than them. And neither of them was anything more than a stopgap, anyway. Lett was solid, but nothing more. Pitt should be aspiring for more highly rated recruits, and the fact that the coach may not think so is not comforting for the program going forward. I realize Jamie has been landing more highly rated forwards than Lett recently, but they all seem to be going away sooner than expected and he apparently has no issues with this.

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  15. Wow hat an exciting ending to the high school championship game. Youngs team hits a three to go up by a point with 8 seconds left the other team takes the ball and hits a three with two seconds left for the win. Wow what a fun ride...

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  16. What I find interesting is all this huff and puff from Arizona State regarding Shell.

    However, haven't heard anything from RichRod at Arizona... seems they could careless.

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    1. Huff and puff?? I'm guessing no pun intended???? Hahahahaha

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  17. there are some rumblings of a big time transfer coming to pitt. i have my hunches but we shall see if it happens.

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    1. football or basketball?

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    1. If it is the 6'10" JUCO FL kid that played with Newkirk in HS in NC, it would be a great get. Chris has reported on it, and it appears Pitt is very much in the running. Let's hope young Mr. Newkirk is a good salesman.

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  19. Apke runs a 11.11 in 100m at South Hills Classic yesterday..
    Pretty good this early in the track season. Probably hit sub-11 by wpials.
    Only pitt wpial recruit I saw on track results... albeit Grimm from Bethel in the put.. with ok results but good for the footwork.

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  20. Shai Mackenzie tweeted that he ran a 11.1 last week and it was 30 degrees out that day. Wow!!

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    1. That a dual meet which uses hand time... so add .24 to handtime. But he will get to under 11 also. Shai was under 11 as a sophmore.
      Apke was FAT... where the start gun is connected to the computer and camera at finish... so Apke is pretty impressive.

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    2. Nice having your thoughts on the speed and slow of the players we talk about. However, I don't care what you say, in 30 degree weather that's fast!! Hahahah a I'm just kidding with ya Joe D!!

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  21. Joe D.,

    Jester Weah won the Wisconsin State Indoor Championship in the 55m dash. Ran a 6.39

    Thought that would be of interest to you.

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    1. It was posted earlier..
      It is #20 in the US...
      that is effing fast...

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  22. anyone know if dan mason will play again or what happened. seems like coaches have him off the team

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  23. Can you explain Chris how Severe is considering Duquesne and Pitt? Why would he consider Duquesne or is he just not that good.

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    1. Let's just say that he's a very unique individual.

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    2. Explain further. Thanks. Sorry I just am trying to wrap my head around his recruitment. Seems like a a solid recruit. How would you handicap the race for him?

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    3. Severe is from Brooklyn.
      Christ the King is in Brooklyn or Queens...
      Duquesne HC came from LIU Brooklyn... they may have a relationship that goes way back.

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    4. Christ the King is in Queens so the Duquesne coach previously coaching in Brooklyn has nothing to do with it.

      Some kids are different. Don't follow normal protocol. March to the best of their own drum. Call it what you like but Severe is one of those people.

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    5. Chris would you want to see Severe in a Pitt uniform? Or is him marching to a different drummer cause for concern.

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    6. He would be a good addition. He's not different in a bad way. I'm just saying that he's the type of kid that could easily go to a Duquesne over Pitt and not think twice about it.

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    7. Maybe he looks at it as 30 pretty much guaranteed minutes right away at Duquesne. Maybe he likes a smaller school. Maybe he wants to continue a Catholic education. Maybe he's set on a specific major, and prefers what Duq offers in that regard. Maybe he just likes the Duq coach a lot. I would think 95% of kids with that choice would pick Pitt, but you never know. Could be a whole host of reasons.

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    8. and maybe he wants to play in Atlantic 10 where their championships are in his hometown in the Brooklyn Arena.
      yes... whole host of reasons.
      also add style of play.

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    9. joe d are you preeminent expert on every subject? are you the true sooth sayer?

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  24. Where do you think he ends up?

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  25. Adams and McGary may have similar numbers but no one will confuse their actual play. McGary got so much better throughout the year. Adams got better too. But McGary is better at this point.

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    1. McGary is better offensively at this point because he played against better competition his whole life leading up to college than Adams did. Adams may now catch up to him quickly on offensive. Adams is already a far better defensive player. No one in college takes it up on Adams close to the hoop w/o getting most of their shots blocked. Guards don't drive the lane much vs. Adams for the same reason. McGary is not an intimidator on the defensive end as much as Adams. And, Adams is a faster, quicker, more explosive athlete than McGary.

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  26. This Mich/UL game has to make you realize how far away Pitt is from a National Championship despite the final score when they played these teams. There are serious athletes out here and Pitt is woefully short.

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    1. Sorry, but I don't think you can disregard the scores of the Pitt games. That is the ultimate measure of a team.

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    2. Michigan and Louisville are far better teams now than when they beat Pitt. Pitt is a worse team, comparatively, than it was when it played each of them. That seems obvious.

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  27. So does losing Shell actually help us in landing McKenzie?

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    1. I talk to him all the time. He's conflicted. A part of him wants to go to Pitt but he's never been away and he wants to see other places. If Pitt looks good this season it will really help their cause. It's still up in the air but Pitt is right in there.

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    2. Who is his lead recruiter?

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    3. It is CRITICAL for Chryst to OUTPERFORM expectations this coming season.

      Doing so, will make Pitt a serious option to consider for top recruits. Meeting or even falling short of expectations could relegate Pitt to mediocrity for the next few years which in turn could seriously jeopardize Chryst's future.

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    4. How many wins is considered exceeding expectations? I can see a 5 or 6 win season(regular season). 7 wins if a lot of bounces go our way and we have several guys step up and play beyond expectations and injuries are limited.

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    5. Expectations of many is that Pitt is in store for another breakeven or even losing season.

      7 wins good... 8 wins better... 9 wins or more GREAT.

      Before the House promotion and the loss of Shell, my expectations were 8 or more wins. Now, my best optimism says 7.

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    6. Tell him he can go see places when he has all the money in the world when he gets drafted. When your that good its about getting to the next level not seeing the states. If he feels its better for him to go to somewhere else other than Pitt to get to the NFL then go for it.

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    7. I think Pitt can beat 5 or 6 wins next season. 8 wins is not out of the question, counting a bowl game. There is a big difference between the very top of the ACC and everyone else in terms of talent. A lot of things have to come together for 8 wins to happen, but Pitt has talent equal to or greater than much of the ACC. Fans at NCSU, Wake, Duke, UNC, Virginia, GA Tech, etc. know they are not rooting for elite teams. They all have plenty of warts, too.

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    8. I keep saying 8 wins is what Pitt needs.

      I'm not going to retype my breakdown right now, but Pitt needs to protect the house and go 2-1 against Florida State, Notre Dame, and Miami.

      And sure enough, people who predict 6 wins have them going 0-3 against that trio. They agree with me on the other 9 games.

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    9. Imma Man! Im 40!April 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM

      Doke,

      Please tell McKenzie that he'll see lotsa places playing for Pitt: they're called road trips & bowl games.

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    10. Savage is going to surprise for Pitt. He has an unbelievable arm, and for the first time in his college career he has a coach that knows how to take advantage of a QB's talent. I'm sure there is much rust from inactivity in game situations to shake off, and some flaws in mechanics to be addressed. But, I have confidence PC knows what he is doing, and there is a good chance Savage is one of the top few QBs in the ACC this fall. Don't give up on 8 wins just yet, Pitt fans!

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  28. Doke

    Quick Question for you (and any of your wise readers), do you think anyone from the Pitt basketball roster this past season other than Adams and RObinson could have made the Louisville or Michigan team roster?


    Thanks

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    1. Of course. Pitt almost beat both and it's not like those teams have great talent all through the roster.

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    2. Pitt didn't have the shooters that both teams had. Late in the first half and into the second, the teams were trading three pointers. Pitt hasn't had a shooter like that since Gibbs junior season.

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    3. Both of those teams switched to overdrive by March Madness, while mid-late Feb is around the time Pitt peaked. The Panthers went sideways, or even backwards the last several weeks of the year.

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    4. I believe Adams would have eventually started for either of those teams - maybe as soon as next year. But, we'll never get to see just how good he could have gotten in college. Robinson may have eventually started when their PG's moved on to the NBA. But, neither of those schools seems to value defense-first, pass-oriented, average athletes at PG. They have chosen the quick, offensive-minded, slashing types instead. So, I'm not sure they would even want Robinson for their systems, as he is much more suited for the Dixon system. Other than that, maybe a few guys in the Pitt rotation this year could have been back-ups for those teams, but no one else currently seeing meaningful minutes for Pitt would ever sniff the starting lineup for those teams unless they take a serious downturn in talent over the next couple of years.

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    5. I think Pitt would have played those teams just as close most days even in March.

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  29. Styles make matches and Pitt has a style that is slow plodding and in fact boring. When teams that have athletes who want to push the ball up the court and bring a level of speed and tempo it is far more enjoyable than what I saw Dixon put out this year. When Pitt has a new chief and he hires a new AD, we will see how Dixon is reviewed both good and bad.

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    1. Jamie was at the Final Four. Let's hope he watched and learned from the athleticism on display. If he sat there and said to himself, "We just need to tighten up and play better team defense to get to the championship game" Pitt will continue to struggle in March every year.

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  30. Just read John Harris' Trib article about not rushing to judgment on Shell. It didn't seem like he did any research on the matter. Never mentions Shell's kids, yet compares Shell leaving to Andy Enfield leaving FGCU.

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    1. Yep... worst article I ever read from the Trib..
      and I wrote emails to Trib editors, Harris, and .cc others at Trib as well as PG and BCTimes.
      It's an opinion piece but his facts are wrong... he even stated up front he never met Shell nor interviewed him nor interviewed any coaches on the subject.. smh.
      Everyone is entitled to an opinion but at least get your facts right!
      For instance, he stated Shell picked Pitt because of the coaches (Graham)... wrong, he picked Pitt because the twins were on the way.. in fact his mother wanted him to go to Alabama.
      He said, Shell was recruited by Graham... not exactly. Wanny gave Shell the offer when Shell was in 9th grade and Lasala, who lives in Hopewell, was a primary contact/recruiter even when Graham was there.
      He concluded Shell needs to look out for #1... but fails to mention he has kids!!

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    2. Agreed all the way around. That was an embarrassingly lazy piece of journalism. Saying that we all would look out for ourselves in his position? I stopped looking out for only myself when I got married and had kids. I'm not saying we can expect every 19 year old to grasp that concept of responsibility, but implying that no one does is irresponsible. Great story last week about Cutch's parents, who found themselves in a similar situation of being teenage parents when Andrew was born. His dad was on a football scholarship as a RB. His reaction was to face up to his responsibilities and put his wife and child first, foregoing any hope of a football career in the process. I hope Rushel comes to that conclusion before it is too late.

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    3. Harris aticle on AD Pederson about 3 weeks ago was also poorly researched. The only reference was from Sonny Vaccaro who signed Pederson/Pitt to a major shoe agreement in late 90s.

      Vaccaro claims that Pederson is the reason why Pitt is going to ACC, but if Harris did his research, he would have known that (1) Pitt was one of several BE schools (including WVU) tha had submitted applications to the ACC back then, and (2) the only reason that Pitt was selected instead of UConn was due to BC AD DeFilippo who got the ACC to change their vote.

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    4. Sorry Anonymous. Your #2 is completely untrue. Nothing more than DeFilippo overstating his influence in the ACC. No one cares what BC wants.

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  31. Cal not interested in Rushel Shell...
    Reason..
    Cal puts emphasis on "student" and heard Shell doesn't like to put in the effort in the classroom... per an article.

    Gee... and I thought it was the conditioning and practice the Shell didn't want to put the effort in. So, where does Rushel want to put his efforts into??

    He is kidding himself if UCLA/Mora will take him... or perhaps he should read up on Mora expectations of athletes. He has kicked a few players off the team for a variety of reasons.

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  32. Lots of hs football talent this year in pa and surrounding areas and chryst and Co are behind the 8ball once again, why is there such a lack of focus towards recruiting with this guy? Strike while the iron is hot also he needs to air the truth behind the shell story because he is turning recruits off

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    1. Who says they're behind the 8 ball?

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    2. Who says Chryst is turning off recruits?
      2014 wpial players know other players at Pitt and they can get the scoop from those players... Chryst doesn't need to say a word.

      Albeit, I'm a little disappointed Chryst didn't offer Fields from Quippa yet.

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    3. Chris has published stories to the effect that Pitt is much more organized and focused on the key local recruits this year. They even have their spring game at Bethel Park to appeal to a prize OL recruit. Not sure what you mean by behind the 8 ball again.

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    4. Even Joe D didn't agree with that post!!! I agree with most on this issue! I think the locals will not go to Pitt for other reasons than Just that Pitt didn't put the work in!! Some kids just wanna go live and try something different. Can't fault them for that(Foster)!!!!

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    5. Quipscript,
      Chryst isn't lighting the world on fire with recruiting... but he is ahead of last year with offers. I wish he had more offers out though. I wish he were more aggressive... but you can't have everything.

      But Shell is not going to affect Pitt recruiting at all.. he is not Pied Piper.

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  33. Story out that I read today on espn.com says ND Football will immediately add $1 million to the TV revenue for each ACC school, pushing them over $18 million each per season, by playing a handful of games vs conference foes each year. This doesn't take into account the added economic impact of ND playing at ACC venues that they have not traditionally visited. I guess you could also throw in added interest that ND brings to conference schools in Olympic Sports where it will also compete. The net effect is that, love them or hate them, ND is good for the ACC. Obviously, their full football participation in the ACC at some point is the goal. But, even as a partial football member, they are adding to the coffers of everyone.

    ND's $15 deal with NBC runs out in '15 - unless, of course, it gets renegotiated or assumed by another network.

    The story also said the ACC and SEC are moving toward decisions on 24-hr sports channels in partnership with ESPN. It didn't say which way the ACC is leaning, but if their current study shows it will bring significant additional revenue, I think we know what they will do.

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    1. Sorry, self-editing my post. 2nd paragraph should begin with "ND's $15 million per season deal with NBC" ...

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  34. Seems Dravon Henry and Shai Mckenzie are going to go head to head in the 100m soon.
    I know they will meet at Wpial Qualifiers and Wpial championships.
    Plus quip v washington in 4x100.
    I'm sure there will be a lot of smack talk between them since they went up against each other in football championship.
    I give the edge to Dravon Henry... heard he got a sub-11 at a dual meet (hand time)... but can't verify.
    Whoever wins the race or races will be deemed the #1 Wpial recruit for football that is.. lol

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    1. Shai tweeted today or yesterday that he ran a 10.9. Probably hand timed. It would be a nice meet to attend though for sure. I didn't realize Dravon was that fast!!! No doubting now, he has top speed!!

      Having Seanson and Henry on a 4x would be nice. I'm assuming its Swanson on the team!!

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    2. Wpial AA Qualifier...
      Tuesday, May 7 @ 2pm @ South Side Beaver.

      They may meet before that at Baldwin Invitational.
      I don't think Swanson is on the 4x100.

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    3. You guys should start a track relay blog. That way, we wouldn't have to read about things that have nothing to do with Pitt football and basketball.

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    4. Anonymous...
      With that comment, it shows you don't know much about football.
      It's all about the speed baby... at least for the skill positions.
      and winner of the race will probably determine who the #1 Wpial recruit will be... or at least bragging rights between the 2.
      It will be fun.
      Get your popcorn ready!!
      Dravon Henry v Shai McKenzie...

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    5. It's not all about the speed. Yes, speed is an important asset, but there's a lot more to being a great player. You need instincts, feel for the game, football IQ, etc. You take a track guy without those and try to turn him into a football player, you'll have a track guy who can't play football.

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    6. Nobody said speed isn't important, and maybe the best way to develop speed is by running track. I'm all for HS football players running track. That said, you two drone on about meets all the time, and some of the guys are not even people Pitt might be recruiting. Plus, that is really getting into minutiae. Why not talk about the bench press and dead lift of the linemen? Because no one cares to read about it, even if it is important to their development.

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    7. We were discussing Henry and Mackenzie who are huge recruits for Pitt to go hard after and they have recruited both pretty hard. This is not a football site or hoops site only. Last I checked it was about Pitt!!! These kids take these meets serious and these two guys play football and have a chance to do something with it here at Pitt. This is why they are being discussed. The issue is we have already discussed on here in length every bodies view on track speed in football. Most of the waders get it. We basically agree with what your saying. The point is though that it sure doesn't hurt being fast either!!!

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    8. Henry and McKenzie are National Recruits...
      Probably both will be ranked Top 250 in country...
      I never heard of top recruits like that go head to head in a track meet in 100m.
      Not to mention, they played against one another for Wpial championship and will probably meet again in 2013 season.
      I think it's exciting.
      But yes, I do mention bench press of those who went to combines or sparq numbers. I'm into measurables.

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    9. btw... if someone from Pitt is not attending some of these track meets... shame on Pitt.
      No different than checking them out at a baskeball game.
      South Side Beaver is only 30min away from Pitt.

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    10. It's very different. They watch basketball to see the athleticism. They need to watch these two run to know they're fast.

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    11. I'm talking about from a recruiting aspect...
      These 2 already have Pitt offers...
      Any school can send hundreds of letters...
      Any school can make hundreds of phone calls...
      But how many schools can attend important events of Henry and McKenzie...
      such as championship games at Heinz or Hershey...
      such as a track meet whereby they go head to head.
      It's this type of stuff that can make the difference in landing them. Pitt was well represented at games in Heinz and Hershey btw...
      oh... and don't forget to bring the pecan pies to the meet!! it can't hurt...

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    12. Could it be an apple pie, Joe D? Or, is pecan the only pie proven to lure top recruits?

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    13. Joe D and QuipScript, the reason most people aren't that interested in the 100m times for the recruits is that very rarely, if ever, does someone run in a straight line for 100 yards (or meters) in a football game. Only in rare instances does that happen. That's why the 40 times are what count. That's a much more common distance for a football play.

      A race like that doesn't gauge elusiveness, cutting ability, vision or other football intangibles.

      Yes, it's of some note that they're racing against each other, but this is mainly a football and basketball blog. We all know speed is extremely important, particularly for skill positions, but there are so many other factors that go into someone being a great football player that it doesn't interest most folks what the 100m times are.

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  35. Imma Man! Im 40!April 9, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    If Shell has his heart set to play in the Pac-12, he really should think about Colorado. Talk about a team that needs help, he'd start the moment his sit-out year ends, and the Buffs are in no position to turn down talent.

    Altho CU is a VERY tough school (acedemically) too, nearly equal to Cal or Standford.

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    1. I think you may be right about Colorado as a possible destination for Shell if he wants to head west, Imma. I'm sure Colorado is a good school, but it is not near the academic class of Stanford or Cal. And their standards for recruits, as shown by all the academic and legal problems they have had with their football program over the years, is also not at the level of those 2 schools. If Shell does not have a stellar academic record, Colorado is much more likely to cut him some slack than those other 2 schools.

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    2. Not to mention that you-know-what is legal in Colorado!

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  36. Chris,
    Can tou give an update on Pitt basketball recruiting? I have been following on Twitter and they seem to be in on many recruits/transfers. Just interested in caliber/fit of the players.

    Mike

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  37. Anyone else think that J J moore has lost a lot of sleep the past couple of nights thinking about how he turned down the offer from Lousivlle to attend the University of Pittsbugh?

    I love pitt with all my heart and soul but if you have an offer from two schools and one has a Hall of Fame coach i think that you have to go with that one...

    Oh JJ, what could have been...

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    1. He hasn't nailed down a starting spot for Pitt yet. Granted, he's playing out of position. But, still, if he was so good, he would get more minutes every game and play a much bigger role for Pitt. He'd be doing a lot of watching from the Louisville bench. If you can't go to the rack as a small forward for Louisville, you watch.

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    2. Smizik's blog has a story about where Adams will get drafted. The consensus from the reports he cites is anywhere from #18 - #25. That sounds about right for what most people here seem to think. He'll make a few million $$ guaranteed. Could have maybe made a lot more by staying and dominating next year and leading Pitt to a Final Four, then going in the Top 5 or so. But, I can't fault him. Everything is a crap shoot and he opted for the sure thing. Wish he had stayed, though.

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  38. Shai McKenzie's take on Pitt recruiting since Shell left via the Observer Reporter

    http://www.observer-reporter.com/article/20130405/SPORTS01/130409569#.UWWwx6LD_IU

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    1. ...and yet, no mention of pecan pie.

      Dang!

      Joe Lawrence

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  39. Chris,

    What percentage would you give that we would land shai? A couple of months ago I would say 90% now reading some articles not so sure it would be that high. Do you think the transfer of Shell has anything to do with him having second thoughts?

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  40. If these WPIAL kids are as good as advertised, then going to Pitt is a slam dunk. The 2014 class is one of the best potential classes that i have ever seen. Position by position is defined by how you perform. If you're good, then the scouts will find you, and you will have a career in the NFL. Going to Pitt, your hometown school, will not only give you a comfort level, but a good education both on and off the gridiron. Hail to Pitt is much more than a phrase, it is a way of life that will carry you through age 19 to 90.

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  41. Troy apke (wr) from MT.Lebo selects Penn St over pitt. This was supposed to be a sure pitt recruit and now pitt looks alot less attractive

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