Wednesday, July 3, 2013

Pitt football adds another

Paul Chryst added yet another commitment as North Allegheny WR Elijah Zeise disclosed on twitter today that he has decided to become a Pitt Panther.  The 6'2" 185 pound son of former Pitt beat writer Paul Zeise has good size, speed, and athleticism.  He also had offers from West Virginia, Arizona, and Temple.

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  1. I couldn't disagree more with everything Joe D is about to write.

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    1. Its a shame that such a funny line is penned under the nom de guerre of "Anonymous".

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    2. I'm really hoping Joe D didn't post this just before his post below. Everyone saw it coming but you sir expressed it so elegantly. *upvote*

      -Not the Anon above

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  2. Ok... we got good news in basketball...
    and the bad news for football continues.

    Zeise is NOT a good pickup in my opinion.
    His only offers were from teams whereby Daddy Zeise knew the coaches. I was actually surprised Rutgers and Maryland spurn him due to PZ's contacts but perhaps that is why he was spurned.

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    1. Well, at least you are consistent.

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    2. Yes I am and I do admit when my forecasts are wrong.

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    3. Joe D

      Do you go out and watch these kids play and break down film like the coaches do?

      I asked this question 1 other time in the past but you did not reply.

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    4. Joe D, can you please provide a resume that makes you an expert in all things college sports? And no! playing high school football in your "AL BUNDY" days does not count!

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  3. Good to see a local kid stay home. I like the pick up

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  4. I'm fine with Zeise. Started since sophomore year for the 3X defending AAAA WPIAL champs NA. Would definitely take him before Webb and Challingsworth, from last year, and probably Weah too. He should contribute on the field at some point and will represent the University well. Absolutely no issues with adding him.

    However, still waiting for the elite WPIAL prospects (Henry, Nicholson, Bookser, McKenzie)

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  5. be interesting to see how paul starts to put his his touches on offense now that he is getting more comfortable. he is either going to be a star or a bust i don't think their is a in-between. im betting he turns out to be a jamie dixon and that will be pretty darn good

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  6. JoeD - your evaluation in this particular case is tainted by the disdain your hold for the young man's father.

    That the younger Zeise chose to go to Pitt is more important for Pitt fans than what he may or may not do on the field. His dad - whether you agree or not - knows football and has been close enough to the program to know what kind of program HCPC is running. Armed with that insight - more than those of us here have - he chose Pitt.

    This decision is far from bad news, Joe.

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    1. It's true, I dislike Paul Zeise.
      His coverage of Pitt was terrible and his knowledge of football was terrible. He just cut and past EJ's press release and was a mouthpiece for EJ.

      That said, I've seen young Zeise.
      He is a MAC/Patriot league type recruit. Please note his offers came only from coaches whereby Paul had contact with.

      But then again, young Zeise is just another lowly rated player that happens to be smart in school.

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  7. Once again I vehemently disagree with our MPP (Most prolific poster). I think Zeise will thrive in HCPC's system as will many of the other "MAC" recruits.

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  8. If I recall correctly, wasn't the '86 PSU national championship team made up of two and three star players. But most were smart kids who knew their assignments.

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    1. LOL
      They didn't have star ratings back then. No rivals. No scout. etc. LOL
      Just love it out people make things up. You must be from the Pitt Blather. Reed? Justin?

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    2. "LOL
      They didn't have star ratings back then. No rivals. No scout. etc. LOL
      Just love it out people make things up. You must be from the Pitt Blather. Reed? Justin?"


      Yeah LOL! The coaches had to actually scout the kids themselves instead of taking the word of recruiting analysts that are about as accurate as the weather man!

      LOL!

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    3. You realize, of course, that Rivals, Scout, 247, etc are for the fans not the coaches, right? There are professional scouting services but they ain't them

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    4. Back in the day, I believe there was Street and Smith, Parade, and a few other magazines. Most would look at the All-State awards.

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  9. Holy Shit...
    Brad Stevens just named Head Coach for Boston Celtics!
    Wow... just plain wow... never saw that one coming for Brad.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/brad-stevens-hired-boston-celtics-head-coach-215618844.html

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  10. Speaking of Brad Stevens...and oh, the irony of it as well...

    Stevens has been successful consistently because he recruited smart kids who fit his system and understand that playing at Butler requires one to embrace the system and not the other way around.

    This is the exactly the path HCPC is following.

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    1. Except that Stevens didn't actually recruit a lot of those guys on his most successful Butler teams.

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    2. He was HC for 6 years and and an assistant there from 2001. You're wrong. He recruited all of them.

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    3. Awful comparison. It's far easier for a coaching genius like Stevens to succeed as a hoops coach with lesser talent than it is on a football field.

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  11. Welcome to Pitt, Elijah.

    Any talk of whether this young man is a good pickup at this point is merely speculation. What really matters is how he performs on the field, in the classroom, and how he conducts himself off the field in the next few years. Then, and only then, can we truly assess the value he's brought to the program.

    Good luck young Zeise!

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  12. I wish Stevens well; but, I think the effect of coaching in the NBA is far smaller than it is in college so that other than for the money and ego trip I don't know why any coach really would want to coach there. The NBA is mostly about who has the most talent, not better Xs and Os,IMHO. The only part of coaching that really matters in the NBA is having owners with deep pockets to secure the best talent and the players liking the coach so that they will voluntarily take direction and play hard. The higher paid inmates run the show and the wardens merely conduct the orchestra (to the extent the inmates allow it).

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  13. Thoughts:

    - Congratulations to the young man for working hard to achieve a college scholarship.

    - I'm sure after the next signing, the negative ones will start crying about PC signing too many players and not leaving enough spots for other kids. Yes, those same negative ones who were crying about PC not signing anyone a month ago...

    - What happened to those gnashing their teeth at Jamie Dixon for having all those open scholarships??

    - The most terrifying thing I've ever read came from this site. JoeD saying he has a daughter!!! God bless that girl.

    A life full of running running wind sprints (can't be slow, slow,slow like those WPIAL kids), baking pecan pies by the dozen, and monitoring the twitter accounts of random high school football players.

    And after all that work, Daddy surprises her with a special summary vacation to.....Greentree to watch basketball scrimmages.

    A true American Dream. Happy 4th folks.

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  14. Chris - How much of Zeise's recruitment to Pitt was a product of his dads role with the newspaper?

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    1. None. They've recruited lesser prospects whose dad wasn't a beat writer.

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  15. If I remember correctly he has been attending Pitt games since he was a young boy. He has always been a fan of the team. I'm sure it was some what a product of his dads work! I'm not sure Paul is a fan of Pitt as much as it was his job at the time. I pretty sure I read that a year ago or so!!

    Quipscript

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  16. Does it really matter?? PC gave him a schollie & he can play bottom line regardless what others think

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  17. I sat one row behind the Zeise family at a Pitt game about 5 or 6 years ago (Elijah had to be 11 or 12 and seemed pretty enthusiastic about the game.) I know this because Paul came down during halftime to spend a few minutes with them.

    His family was delightful, and despite what Joe D may think about him, I developed a positive image about him as a parent (and his wife.) I also liked his work as the Pitt beat writer.

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  18. All these star-rating based impressions causing so much "hand-wringing" will change come LOI day because all of Pitt's currently unrated commits will either be rated by then or have their current ratings updated based on their senior seasons. IMHO, the majority of the currently unrated commits will be have 3-stars by then and 1-2 of them may even have 4-stars by LOI day. There will also be some changes (mainly upward) among those commits who already have star ratings. Overall, in the end, the class is going to resemble last year's class and hover around an average of 3-stars per recruit and most likely be ranked in the low 30s nationally.

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    1. You're right but doesn't rankings in the 30s get Pitt 8 wins and coach fired? Why should Pitt always settle for 30s when there are top top kids in PA this year?

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    2. According to Scout, Wannstedt's 2006 & 07 recruiting classes were ranked 11th & 6th respectively. If that's not high enough, what is? The correct answer is that recruiting rankings don't matter.

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    3. So you still believe the earth is flat to right? There is a direct correlation to class rankings and finish rankings. Try using facts. People need to stop loving David Eckstein players and start liking Mike Trout players.

      In 07 it didn't show 6 either. They had 9 and 10 wins with players drafted in the first round(just by chance im sure too) Now, 6 wins and no players drafted. Keep telling yourself the Sun revolves around the earth.

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    4. Might want to look at all the facts too....

      Per Scout:
      Pitt
      2006 - 11
      2007 - 8

      WVU
      2006 - 56
      2007 - 18

      Cincy
      2006 - 70
      2007 - 80

      UConn
      2006 - 66
      2007 - 53

      Wisconsin
      2006 - 37
      2007 - 41

      Remember, even during those "glory years", Pitt didn't place higher than 3rd place in the Big East. All those teams outperformed Pitt on the field during that timeframe (2008-2010 seasons), despite having inferior recruiting rankings.

      Recruiting is PART of the equation, not all of it. Still got to develop the players, and coach them on gameday. And frankly, I'm not fretting too much right now. Clearly, the players being recruited right now are players Chryst and the staff think they can win with; it's the low level recruit who gets a last-ditch offer in January because they miss on the original targets are more concerning.

      Now, Dokish said it best, either the staff are a bunch of geniuses, or a bunch of idiots, and we'll know in 3-4 years.

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    5. Alabama
      2009-2
      2010-4
      2011-7
      2012-2

      It's a huge part of the equation but for some reason Pitt fans don't get it.

      As for Pitt never finishing higher than 3rd. Pitt had a much better team than Cincy, if Wanny has them kickoff out of bounds instead of letting them be returned they go to a BSC game. If with a poor gameday coach Pitt still won 9 and 10 games. Combine both and you win big. By your logic you are saying 13-9 was because Pitt was a better team? Sample size.

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    6. Congrats. You've named ONE team.
      No one is at Alabama's level right now. Quit trying to use them as an example.

      I don't care that Pitt had the better team on paper against Cincy in those years. Cincy won on the field. That matters far more.

      Based off recruiting rankings, the 2007 Pitt team was better than WVU also (Pitt #39 and #47 in 2003 and 2004, WVU #57 and #53).

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    7. Obviously you can win with lower rated players IF you have an excellent head coach. Chryst may prove to be that, we don't know, but I think it's obvious that the better talent you have, the easier it is to win. Chryst certainly isn't making it easy on himself. Maybe he can do what programs like Wisconsin, Cincinnati, and Bpise State did, but only if he can coach like Bielema, Kelly, and Pederson.

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    8. Orignal you never took stats? Sample size. If Pitt played Cincy 10 times they win at least 7 of them. If they kick the ball out of bounds they win. That simple. Don't tell me the better team won. Explain 13-9 then. Pitt was not the better team. How many would Pitt win if they played 10 times? Prob one.

      You named 3 wow, and none won any national titles.

      Miami, USC, Oklahoma, PSU, OSU, LSU, Florida State, Florida....should I go on?

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    9. Why do the same people who bash Jamie for not getting top recruits not mind when the football team does?

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    10. Cincy won 4 of the last 5 meetings.

      Pitt didn't kick the ball out of bounds, and they didn't win. And Cincy finished the regular season 12-0 and in first place, while Pitt finished 9-3 and in 3rd. THAT is far more relevant than whomever had the better recruiting ranking.

      And, based off recruiting rankings, the 2007 Pitt was better than the 2007 WVU team. Of course, we all agree that WVU was better because they went 11-2, won the Big East, and won the Fiesta Bowl, while Pitt wallered at a 5-7 mark. But again, who had the better recruiting ranking...

      Not sure what your list at the end means. Penn State last won in 1986. Miami collasped. USC seems light years away from the Reggie Bush era. Florida State had to get rid of Bowden, and they still underachieve. Hell, you can throw Texas in there from the past couple years. If your only measure of success is a National Championship in a sport with 120 teams, good luck. By that logic, the Jackie Sherill era at Pitt was a failure too.

      Bottom line is, it's stupid to get worked up over rankings of kids who haven't even entered 12th grade yet, let alone college. As Chris said, if Chryst is as good a coach as some of the others mentioned, he and Pitt will do well. If not, then they won't.

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    11. You are worse than Joe D. The total other extreme.

      Did you not read was Chris said? If they don't have a superstar coach you can't win consistently with lesser players. Why is that hard to comprehend?

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    12. Isn't that list teams that have high recruiting rankings and finish high on the AP rankings?

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    13. So Anonymous, if Wanny kicks the 5th Pitt kickoff out of bounds (when Cincy didn't return any of the first 4 past the 30 yd line), Pitt wins because he is a great gameday coach

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    14. Actually, what Chris said IS part of the point I've been trying to make.

      When it's all said and done, Chryst and company may look like geniuses. They may end up looking like idiots, or somewhere in between. NONE of us know the answer right now. We likely will in 3-4 years. Looking at recruiting rankings sure as hell doesn't tell is the answer right now.

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    15. Orignal read this. They prove it does matter.

      http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/21641769

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    16. Wow... awesome article Anony 9:44.
      Backed with numbers.
      I loved this quote in the summary.
      The evidence is overwhelming: Despite some obvious, anecdotal exceptions, on the whole recruiting rankings clearly are useful for creating a realistic baseline for expectations.

      So, looks like 6-6 until they replace Chryst or Pederson gives Chryst a kick in the ass regarding recruiting.

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    17. Page not found. Would have put me to sleep anyways.

      See my post above.

      We'll know more about Pitt football based off what they do on the field this year than ratings that some websites have given so 11th graders. And we'll also know more on how good the players and coaches are in 3-4 years when they are actually in college.

      Otherwise, keep striving to be the champs of February. That obviously means more to you.

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    18. Link worked for me.

      Keep telling yourself the world is flat.

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  19. Chris, do you think Talib Zanna's style of play would be better in the ACC because it is not as phyical maybe?

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    1. Yes. And I think he will be much better this year. I think he deferred to Adams a lot last year but this year he will be more aggressive.

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    2. What kind of ceiling does this team have? I see a weak ooc schedule and a fringe NCAA team. Chris - ?

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    3. Ann Nonimus PrimeJuly 7, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      From a pure physical standpoint, Pitt will be surprised with the physicality of the ACC. For the past three years, Pitt has arguably been the "softest" it has been over the last 10 years of competition.

      Without completing a full analysis, Zanna will be overmatched in the ACC, unless he finds physical consistency that he has yet to produce. Depth in the "big" positions will be problematic all year long once we get out of the ooc schedule. When will Pitt know if Mostella qualifies?

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  20. On tape, Zeise looks OK at best. Not going to run away from people at the next level.

    Might find playing time as a possession receiver... or back on defense as a strong safety.or outside linebacker.

    PittofDreams

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  21. Must say that I don't get the journalism ethics stance Paul Zeise and the Post Gazette has taken in regard to younger Zeise's recruitment at Pitt.

    Maybe I'm wrong, but getting the sense that Zeise may now be planning to return to covering Pitt football with the news that his son has verbally committed.

    With the actual signing day still six months away and a fall football season still to go... why would Zeise somehow see himself instantly absolved from any conflict that might come by way of his reporting or blog posts?

    Assuming nothing happens to deter Zeise from signing with Pitt and joining the team, it would seem that the burden facing Zeise and the Post Gazette with regard to avoiding the APPEARANCE of a conflict of interest would only become greater.

    For example, what if his son doesn't see playing time? Or worst yet possibly sees playing time in place of other kids who are perceived by the fans and public as clearly being more talented?

    Maybe I am wrong, but if it was ever needed, it would seem the necessity for a self-imposed re-assignment by Zeise and his employer has not ended at all... but only begun.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Zeise was never coming back to the Pitt beat. He's been trying to get out of that for years. It's one of the lowest positions in the sports department. This was the excuse he needed to convince the paper that he needed reassigned.

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  22. What is the "official" number of available football scholarships for 2014 class?
    Assuming all the Jr, RSJR, and all the players return.

    I thought I counted 16 on rivals scholarship site.
    However, don't know if they are currently at the 85 due to recent transfers and kicked off the team. (Pitt may be below the 85 number meaning some walkons may get a scholarship for 2013.)

    I'm assuming Pitt will sign 20 players in 2014.
    Will it be more? Are my facts wrong?

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    1. 17 seniors and 2 open scholarship spots according to Peak. I would expect a class around 20-22 commits.

      ~Former Oak Hill Resident

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    2. Well, his scholarship board shows 17 "seniors", however, Zenal D. decided to graduate and not come back so that is 16. I forgot he gave a scholarship to Brown, than that is back to 17 again.

      2 open scholarships, curious what he does with them.
      He may be forced to use them for 2013 due to Title 9.

      Thanks for the update.

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  23. "Are my facts wrong?" - Joe D 7/8/2013

    Might be the greatest example of unintended humor in the history of the written word.

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    1. Bravo, Sam. Bravo.

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    2. Glad I made your day.
      smh

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  24. Joe,

    Some wouldn't have a clue as to whether your facts are wrong or right.

    Now, I find that funny.

    PittofDreams

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  25. In other news, Rushel Shell to visit WVU allegedly on 22nd per nephew.
    The strange part, Shell changed his avi on his twitter to a picture of him in a Pitt uniform. smh.
    I hope he turns himself around.
    Headcase.

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  26. Wow... a WVU publication believes Shell is playing WVU in hopes of getting Chryst to reconsider. smh
    Perhaps that explains the avi.
    If so, this kid has huge cahones... and he is still a headcase.

    http://www.wvupressbox.com/football/wvu-football-is-rushel-playing-a-shell-game-with-wvu-and-pitt-2/comment-page-1/

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    1. If in fact Shell is using WVU to get Coach Chryst to reconsider, I hope Coach Chryst dismisses any notion of Shell returning as quickly as he did when Shell wanted to return recently.

      Chryst gave Shell every chance to consider his options, and Shell decided to turn his back on Pitt. Maybe it's getting through his 10 cent head what a mistake he made. However, he also needs to learn that for some things in life, there are no do-overs.

      It still amazes me that he threw away an opportunity that few in life will ever receive. It was painfully clear that he was making a mistake, and now he's probably realizing that.

      Stay the course Coach and keep this malcontent at arms length. Mr Shell, you had it in the palm of your hand and pissed it away.

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  27. Most, if not all the WVU coaches have been on vacation since Sunday, June 30& will not return to campus no earlier than Saturday July 13, which was a misunderstanding between Rushel and the WVU staff. The intention was to get Rushel to Morgantown asap, but everyone’s schedules didn’t mesh. A date that was good for the coaches and Rushel is July 22. The reason why that date was chosen is because a fair amount of players will also be back on campus by then and Rushel wanted to talk to some of the guys and begin the start of bonding with some of his new teammates. Please believe WVU fans, Rushel is definitely coming.

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    1. The article was written by a wvu homie and is a wvu blog.

      Rushel mom was quoted by saying... talked to wvu coaches... would visit next week (which was week of 4th) so wvupressbox has some merit in wondering what is going on. His post has a timeline of what was said, etc.
      Obviously an opinion on his part.

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    2. Since you know Rushel as you posted the same on the wvupressbox,
      why did Rushel change his avi to a picture of him with his Pitt uniform?
      wvupressbox may be onto something.
      I highly doubt Chryst will bite.

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    3. Joe D obviously has an issue with almost anyone who puts out information about any of the Aliquippa kids (None of them know who he is) or anyone around the Beaver County Area in general. Yes, I know Rushel, but what grown man questions another grown man about every little thing they do. I not that guy. That's very female of you to even ask me that. So instead of calling you Joe D, maybe everyone should refer to you as Jody. Ask your own womanly questions Jody

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    4. Anony,
      My nephew goes to Hopewell. I know all about Rushel and his antics.
      And I know many of the Quip coaches. I know or know of the kids parents/relatives.
      And, my family knows the Zuccaro family back to Rocco and Sil. So well, that they went to a funeral of Rushels Great Aunt. Rushel mom is the black sheep of the Zuccaro family.
      I call it like I see it albeit I'm bias toward Quip kids as I would want to see them get scholarships as they work hard.

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    5. Everything Joe D just said is accurate if you need some type of verification. I know that is hard to handle for some people but he's right on this part.

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  28. Chris, Pitt have any chance with Conner Brewer?

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  29. Chris I have heard that the Pitt players have looked very underwhelming at the GreenTree summer league.

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    1. The summer league doesn't mean much but even if it did I know that Zanna and Newkirk has looked very good.

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    2. Dixon has his work cutout for him this year.
      He has never had this type of roster turnover before and his "program/system" relies upon returning players whether it be starters or off the bench.
      My count, he has 6 returning players. 3 starters, 2 reserves, 1 RSfrosh (Jones).

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    3. Pitt will win over 20 games again. Maybe even 25.

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    4. Hard to tell how many wins for Pitt this year.
      Lots of new players that is unknown how they fit at Pitt.
      Then playing in ACC which is going up against teams you didn't play last year, etc.
      Lots of unknowns.

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    5. I've stopped expecting big things. But an NCAA appearance IS expected, and better than not. Aside from that, for me as a fan the season hinges on the outcome of one game. As long as they take care of business and crush Penn State's ass in humiliating fashion, to me, the season will be a huge success.

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  30. Is this 25 regular season wins? If so, that's a record of 25-4. And I'll bet you anything they are not 25-4. This is at best a fringe NCAA team.

    But if they continue to schedule a weak a@@ ooc schedule maybe 20 wins is obtainable.

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  31. The best player in the summer league has been Ovie Solo from Duquesne. Its really not even close.

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    1. Talib has probably averaged around 26 and 13. If soto has been the best, its definitely close

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  32. Did Pitt really sell 55,000 of the 65,000 seats for ALL the home games so far??
    I will believe that when I see it.

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    1. I take it you're not one of them Joe

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    2. I'm in NJ. I'll probably come in for a game.
      They only sell season ticket packages and no individuals games which is why I'm surprised that many is sold. Also, don't know how many are given to opposing team to sell.
      but last year, Pitt announced attendance was 40-45,000 at the games when there was really 25,000.
      sorry if I don't believe the rhetoric. Seeing is believing.

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    3. Had to check Stub Hub.
      Lots of tickets available already. LOL Cheap too!

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    4. No need to be sorry. You're right seeing is believing. Booties in actual seats are more important than actual sales right now even if exaggerated, well, with all that acc money about to roll in. Would certainly help the perception of the program too.

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    5. As long as Pitt gets their money, I couldn't care less whether they show up or not.

      I'd rather have a smaller crowd of committed fans than a stadium full of Joe D types.

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  33. Chris - I wanted to get your opinion on when its OK to question whether Dixon will ever make a final 4? How many more years before we have to conclude he cannot get it done.

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    1. I'm not an apologist for Dixon but the truth is, it's amazing that he does as well as has he has with the talent he is. One complaint I agree with somewhat is that I think he can be a better recruiter. He gets very good talent but a team that was going toe to toe with Syracuse and UConn all of those years should be getting more top 50 players. But like I said, to win as many games as he does with talent that hasn't been that amazing over the last decade has been very impressive. Nobody can take that away from him.

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    2. He was one Jermaine Dixon turnover away from reaching the final four a few years ago, so I don't think that it's beyond the realm of possibility that Jamie can eventually get there.

      MC

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    3. When he had two excellent players he almost made it. If he can get two excellent players on the same team again then it could happen.

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    4. Just a clarifying question...wasn't it a Jermaine Dixon defensive mishap (not sealing off Scottie) and not a turnover that prevented the final four berth? (not that they didn't have the entire game to win it) Seriously, my memory is fuzzy as I may have subconsciously blocked it out.

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    5. Might those two players be Mike Young and Detrick Mostella?? James Robinson, Josh Newkirk, Durand Johnson, and Joseph Uchebo rounding out a very solid 6 deep. It's certainly possible imo.

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    6. Chris - Nowhere in there did you answer my question. I'll ask again. When is it OK to being to question whether Jamie Dixon will ever make a final 4?

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    7. You can question it any time you like.

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  34. Pitt football with ANOTHER 2 star committ.
    From Wisconsin.
    Yawn... smh
    I'm so excited!! ;)

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    1. Probably Pitt's 2 best players in Devin Street and Jason Hendricks were 2 stars as Chris pointed out on twitter. Aaron Donald was a 3 star. Just sayin'

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    2. Yeah but Pitt has been a .500 team with those 2 and 3 star players.

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    3. Street was lowly rated because he wasn't a starter as a Jr. in High School
      Donald should have been 4 star but they downgraded him because he is only 6'0".

      And, Pitt won 6 games last year with 2/3 stars as per Dokes.

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    4. no I understand the concerns, but I think it's unfair to judge these players after the coaching fiascos and lack of continuity they've faced. All we need to do is get some solid 2-3 star prospects and sprinkle in a few 4 stars here and there to be successful. Joe has consistently stated that his expectations are to be in the top 25 year in and out. You can do it with these players. No one in their right mind is going to compare the Alabamas, Florida St.'s and Michigan's recruits who are 4/5 star guys to Pitt's as we need to win some big games to get into that conversation. Essentially you can cherry pick your players/stats/records either way to prove your point, yet you're only going to end up with a sore neck if you shake your head at everything when it's impossible to know the trajectory of these kids and coaches until it all plays out.

      Btw, I feel we have a very legitimate shot at Winfree, Henry, Bookser, and Hooker...if we land those guys then maybe it's just me, but I'm not going to have any complaints with this recruiting class.

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    5. ...and if Collins was from Aliquippa intead of Wisconsin, Joe D would be messing himself over him.

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    6. And if Pitt had a team full of 2/3 stars like Dokish listed, they would've won a lot more. The problem was all the 4/5 star underachievers.

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    7. Anony 2:10
      How many players from Collins High School have played D1 football?
      How many have gone on to play in the NFL?
      Enough said as to the success of players coming out of Quip which is attributed to their High School years.

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    8. Who cares? Past players have zero impact on the ability of current players. See: Hollins, Juantez. In my scenario, nothing about Collins would change, only your perception of him.

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  35. Joe D - this might be the first time I agree with you. At first, I was fine with a couple sleepers. But when you have more 2 star or NR players then ranked, you start to wonder. I hope we r wrong and PC proves to have a method to the madness.

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  36. Smart kid academically with Height (6-4), Speed (4.56), Hops (36" Vertical)--But can he play football?

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    1. Pitt football 2014 recruiting class with be Top 10 among BCS teams....

      based on Average SAT score!
      How many games in the ACC will Pitt win with that?

      Also, it appears Chryst knows NONE of the remaining elite wpials will go to Pitt. This recruit is one of those players you hold off on offering until you know about the players who have left to committ.

      Chryst is scraping the bottom of the barrel for players.

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    2. It's kinda sad to say but the 2014 class is shaping out to be
      1.Penn State
      2. Temple
      3. California University of PA
      4. IUP (Insert Rushel Shell)
      5. Pitt
      When you recruit Division II type players, you lose to teams like Youngstown State. The writing was on the wall last year. There's a reason Steve Pedersen isn't allowed in the State of Nebraska anymore, look at their program since his arrival and departure. We need an A.D. who wants to win that expects the same outta his football coach, until then, we will continue to have subpar to average teams at best.

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    3. Wait, Pitt lost to YSU last year with all the 4/5 star players that Wanny recruited.

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    4. True, so what do you think will happen now that the 4/5 star players back-ups have to step up? Manasseh Gardner is a first round talent. Aaron Donald is a 3/4 round guy. Devin Street and Todd Thomas may make NFL practice squads. Duke has more NFL talent right now than Pitt. Is Duke the school Pitt is thriving to be like, a basketball first, football second school in the heart of Pittsburgh, aka the Steel City? Maybe we're trying to be just like Temple and South Florida and keep being the ugly sisters of the prom queens (NFL Teams). Pitt needs it's own facilities on campus, not 3 miles away on the South Side or 5-6 miles away on the North Shore. That could be one of the few things detracting 4/5 star players from coming to Pitt. Penn State, Ohio State, and WVU, the three schools surrounding Pitt continue to out recruit, and out perform Pitt, as well as put fans in the stands. WVU doubles Pitt's attendance and Penn State and Ohio State triples it. Not just because they're winning, alumni like to explore college campuses before the game, not the North Shore. Give the kids the luxury of a true college football atmosphere. The "Oakland Zoo" needs to truthfully be in Oakland

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    5. I think Pitt will be better off with committed 2/3 star guys than the 4/5 star guys who are more interested in smoking pot than winning football games. They may take a dip because they will be young, but when they mature, they'll be much better off. I'm not even going to address the rest of that mess.

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  37. Sorry, but the theory that playing off campus keeps the alums away is bogus. Pitt simply has way too many alums who don't care about Pitt football. These were the folks, the majority of past Pitt students up til at least the 1990s, who attended Pitt as commuters, or, if they didn't commute daily, at least went home every weekend for HS Friday night lights and for a date with their HS Sweetie and never made it to games at Pitt stadium. Many of this crowd were even Penn State fans despite attending Pitt. For them, on or off campus makes no difference they simply weren't and aren't interested in Pitt football.

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  38. PC recruiting is starting to remind me a lot of Paul Hackett's recruiting. I BELIEVE Paul Hackett to be the NCAA version of the Dealth Penalty. He set this program back decades. Great Off Cord but not meant to be a head coach. PC is starting to remind me of him.

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  39. Honestly the comments on here have become so incredibly stupid I just can't stand it anymore. Do you idiots not realize the turmoil this program has been through these last couple of years!!?!! Do you understand the damage this does to recruiting!!??!! Not to mention the lame game day atmosphere and half emtpy stadium!!??!! Pitt's lucky they were able to get a Head coach Like PC! I'm truly amazed he even came here given the monumental credibility rebuild that needed/needs to be done.

    Pitt's lucky they're getting any recruits at all given the complete fiasco this program became. Let alone landing 4/5 star recruits! Pitt hit the bottom and now they have to climb back up again. This takes time period and if you don't like it tough, because firing PC this soon into his tenure will do nothig but destroy what's left of this program beyond all repair!

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    1. Pitt was 6-7 and 8-5 the previous two seasons and there have been other programs that have had worse than some bad coaching hires. Walt Harris had it much worse. There are a lot worse situations out there currently. It's not like this is the hardest rebuilding job known to man.

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    2. Explain how Penn State is still getting top notch players? That situation is way, way, worse.

      No one I've seen has said fire PC but his recruiting has been questionable.

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    3. Walt Harris had it worse in terms of personnel, but he could sell optimism of a new start & playing time. Any optimism/clean start Chryst may be able to sell is undermined by the perception that he may not be around in 1 or 2 years. There's no fresh start because the moron who caused the turmoil in the program is still the AD.

      Please tell us who currently has it worse? And don't tell me Penn St. They can rightfully make the point that everyone who caused their problems is gone. Not to mention that they had great senior leadership, not a team that was hooked on drugs.

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    4. Jeff W.,
      Your post is the dumbest I've ever read.
      Just plain excuses.
      Not worth my time to even rebut your nonsense.

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    5. Penn State is still getting recruits because the players don't care what happened in the past. They go to games and see the stands full of rabid fans. They don't care about Sandusky (that was years ago). They don't care that Urban Meyer had 31 arrests on his watch at Florida. He won and the stands are full at Ohio State. It really has nothing to do with scandals or anything else. These kids want to play in front of packed houses. The first few games of this season will be huge for the future of the football program. Pack the house for Fla St. Pitt doesn't even need to win. Fill the stadium for the next 2 home games and kids will commit. I you don't, say goodbye to Mckensie, Nicholson, Bookser and anyone else who has big time offers. Fill the stadium and offer a great gameday atmosphere and Pitt will get its share of those guys.

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    6. Blue Chip Dad,
      Kentucky and Vandy coaches got players without doing that... heck, before their first game.
      Yes, if you win they will come. But, we not talking about Pitt getting 10 4-star players. Heck, I'd be satisfied with at least 5 4-star players. But these 2 star nobodys with MAC/Patriot league offers are not going to help Pitt in recruiting or win games. It will do the exact opposite in my opinion.

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  40. Hey Chris,
    Just want to know where the basketball team stands with players for this coming year. Is Randall going to be able to play this year, Is Jeter going to play for Pitt as a walkon, how is Uchebo health, and is Mostella eligible? How many scholarships have been given out for 13-14 season ? Just thinking it may be a rough first year in the ACC for basketball. Thanks Chris

    Jrtpitt

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  41. Chris - I wanted to get your thoughts on if we can classify Dan Masons Pitt career as disappointing? Tough circumstances but definitely a disappointing career.

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    1. Disappointing for Dan as he looked like a future star as a freshman.

      In other news, Bradley tweeted "I pray that where I end up going this fall is where God intends for me to go."

      Sounds like he and his brother are goners, though I hope I'm reading into it wrong. The linebacking corps would be so depleted. The attrition has to slow down soon.

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  42. I have said it many times that Walt doesn't get enough credit for what he was able to do. He came into a situation where there was talk of not playing D1 football. I sat in extremely empty stands at Pitt Stadium watching some of those last years of Johny Majors II. Walt getting 6 wins his first year still impresses me to this day. Now Walt was never going to take Pitt back to 1976 or even the early 80s but he got the most out of his teams and played in a much stronger Big East than Wanny or Fraud or PC ever did. I still believe we need to give PC some time before we judge himN however like I stated earlier he is starting to remind me of Paul Hackett.

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    1. Harris saved Pitt football at the time. And that's not an exaggeration.

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    2. There was a purge in 1990 similar to what's going on now, but Hackett brought in small players who were bad. Chryst is bringing in better players who are bigger and will continue to grow, but he better decide if wants to be a football coach of moralist because he's in the business of giving second chances to kids.

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    3. AMEN Mr. Dokish

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  43. With the recent dismissals and the type of recruits he's been going after do you think Chryst cares more about changing the culture and locker room than winning?



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    1. What shocks me are players willing to walk away from a free college education.
      If they are not going to be a starter, you would think they would grind it out and get a degree at least. These aren't NFL prospects ya know.

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  44. While I believe Harris was the best FB coach had since the 80s, his prgram was falling apart fast even though he made to a BCS game his last game ... albeit won via a 4-team tiebreaker in a 7-team league which had 2 doormats.

    Not ony was that team not BCS worthy, I think the 06 team which finished 6 and 6 and didn't go to a bowl was better than the that BCS team .. the 06 team just played in a league with 4 ranked teams, 3 of which finished in the top 12 BCS final rankings.

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    1. There was no doubt that Harris did all he could do for Pitt.

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  45. I can understand fans concerns about the current recruiting class. My question…does Coach Chryst truly believe that he can build a winning team around these kids, or could this peculiar recruiting style be the result of Pitt demanding that the football program clean up it’s act by bringing in high character kids that won’t embarrass the university with their off-the-field incidents.

    MC

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    1. Who said you can't do both?
      And if Chryst was told to form a Patriot league team, then Pitt should be going to the Patriot league instead of the ACC.
      And, look at Chapman. 100% Chryst recruit.
      You will never be 100% right and with some you have to take a chance (especially the elite players.. ie. Rushel Shell).

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    2. 641 yds, 4.5 ypc, 4 TDs. Still hasn't found a new college 3+ months after announcing he would transfer. Rushel Shell is hardly "elite."

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  46. Chris - what exactly did Mason do to get kicked off the team.

    I understand that he was in the same car when one of the other players got busted for drinking a couple of years ago but, he had some kind of trouble since then right?

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  47. Zeise is going to be PG's Pitt basketball reporter!!!
    smh
    Are you kidding me? Fittapaldo did a very good job.

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  48. Looks like some thought may have been given as to how Zeise and the Post Gazette could avoid the APPEARANCE of a conflict of interest going forward.

    If it goes down, a good move on their part.

    PittofDreams

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    1. There was no way Zeise was ever going back to the Pitt football beat. He didn't want to.

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    2. Where is Fittipaldo going? Pirates? Trib?
      I like Fittipaldo coverage of Pitt BB. One of the better PG beat reporters.

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  49. Chris - your thoughts on why Mason isn't a member of the team anymore?

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    1. Rules are rules...
      Why are people soooo obsessed with Mason?
      He has a great comeback story but Pitt needs to build for the future. If he didn't get his degree, shame on him.

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    2. I understand that rules are rules - I'd just like to know which rule(s) he broke?

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    3. Not a rules violation - academics.

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    4. Academics is part of the rules.
      If you cut class or fail courses or do poorly... you will be kicked off the team.

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    5. Joe D,

      Maybe you should've paid more attention to your own academics. Academics is plural, therefore the correct grammar would be, "Academics are part of the rules".

      I realize you'll find a way to rationalize your mistake, but the irony is especially rich when someone writing about academics makes a grammatical mistake.

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    6. Anony,
      Hey, I went to Aliquippa. lol Coach Z was my English Lit teacher.
      Language Arts wasn't my strong suit. ChE major at Pitt.
      Reading the comments below, I'm not sure which is correct.

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  50. Before you correct Joe D about his grammatical mistakes, you should be aware of your own. "Academics are apart of the rules." Notice apart and the placement of the quotation marks.

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    1. You're missing the larger point of Joe D writing about academics and then using a singular verb when a plural verb is correct. Commenting about a slight misplacement of a quotation mark misses the point entirely.

      Yes, it should've been after the period, but the misuse of language when commenting about academics is the larger point. Step back and enjoy the irony.

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  51. Actually Anonymous, "Academics IS" can be just as proper as "Academics ARE" depending on whether it is viewed as a collective unit.

    Good grief.

    PittofDreams

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    1. You're wrong. The word academics is used with a plural verb.

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    2. Prove it.

      PittofDreams

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  52. How concerned should we be with the communication of the scholarship offer to marcus collins. I mean if I thought I was offered and then they reneged I would be pretty peeved. Isn't this something that should be crystal clear if a recruit has an offer?

    '05

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  53. smh... did I read correctly.
    Shai McKenzie is telling the media he wants to get 3000yds this season?
    I was very high on Shai, but I'm not sure about him anymore.
    Lots of talk. Lots of me, me, me... look at me.
    He doesn't want his coach to take him out the 2nd half of games so he can rackup yards for personal glory. smh.
    Someone should remind him, I think he got 55 yds against Quips. Rushel Shell put in a call to the Quips and told them to don't let him get the record.

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    1. So if Shai commits elsewhere, we won't hear the standard Joe D "Chryst is clueless" or "Chryst can't recruit" diatribe then?

      I always got the impression that most of these kids - particularly at the high profile positions - are me me me types anyways. You know, the ones you have to "roll out the red carpet" to, that "just offering" won't work.

      Brandon - you beat me to it regarding the Quips and Shell. I suppose they could respect Shai even less.

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  54. The same Rushel Shell who you said Quip players dont respect

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  55. Now Joe D, I'm gonna have to correct you on the Shai McKenzie numbers against your beloved Quips. The correct numbers are 27 carries for 32 yards in two games of action. In the 2011 quarterfinals, Shai had 10 carries for 0 yards. In the W.P.I.A.L. Championship, Shai had 17 carries for 32 yards. That's a whopping 1.1 yards per run average. Big time players come to play in big time games. Check Shai McKenzie's stats against Aliquippa and Jeannette. On that note, check Dravon Henry's and Terry Swanson's stats against Jeannette, Washington, Beaver Falls Mt Pleasant, and any other big game you want to name. The numbers don't lie. Henry has over 115 less carries than McKenzie but has a little over 200 yards more than him in his career with 4, 320 yards and is 1,250 from passing Chico Williams as his school's all time leading rusher. Swanson has over 140 less carries than McKenzie and has 3,128 career rushing yards and is 1,425 from passing his cousin Ralphel "Pudgie" Abercrombie. These two guy only play a quarter apiece because they rotate every other series and are usually done by halftime. Unlike Shai McKenzie, they also star on defense as well. Shai McKenzie might be the 3rd best tailback on Aliquippa's team, but one can argue that Sophomore Kaezon Pugh, who will be the feature tailback once Henry and Swanson leaves, may also be a better back than McKenzie. So before McKenzie starts claiming to be the best running back in the state, he might want to remember two running backs from Aliquippa that have outplayed him for the past two years. Can't say your the best running back in the state if your not the best running back in the W.P.I.A.L Class AA.

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    1. McKenzie is the best running back in the state. He's running against Aliquippa's defense. I don't think Aliquippa's RBs would have done anything if they played for Washington and had to go against the Aliquippa defense either.

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    2. Wow Anony, you must be a Quip to know those stats.
      But,
      Shai McKenzie is the best RB in PA.
      I just don't like his attitude these days. Shellitis.
      Talk, talk, talk and me, me, me... and can't back the talk when he toes the line.

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    3. The Aliquippa running backs have been going against their own defense for the last 3 years every Tuesday in practice. Do know and understand that Washington has had a much larger Offensive Line than the Quips each and every time they have played, but the Quips players are tougher and play with more heart and determination. If Henry chose to play Running Back instead of defensive back please believe, he would still have the offers he has, if not more. In 2011, the little Prexies also played Clairton, McKenzie did absolutely nothing that game too. Maybe because Shai is running wild against Quaker Valley, Brownsville, Yough, Southmoreland, and Charleroi, it makes him look like Barry Sanders. When he plays against teams with the type of speed that he will see in College such as Aliquippa, Clairton, and Jeannette, Shai has a history of folding, something that can't be said about Rushel Shell. Those comparisons are a bit overboard.

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    4. What about McKenzie's performance against a good South Fayette defense?

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    5. A good South Fayette defense on paper Shai had 43 carries against for 200+yards. Ron Dayne wasn't getting that many carries, and he had the most carries in college football. Before the WPIAL championship game, Shai had 110 carries, an average of 34 per playoff game. So in the Championship game, with everything on the line, he only gets 17 carries for 32 yards. Carries don't make you elite, what you're doing with those carries does. Shai has yet to cross his own 45 yard line against Aliquippa, a defense that held the Washington offense to 0 points.

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  56. He would be a good fit for Pitt as he has the size enough speed and athleticism to be a contributor. If he goes to FSU, he will find the talent to be considerable. But it appears Pitt has a good shot at the RB from Buffalo and he is said to be making a decision in September. If he commits to Pitt, Shai may find Pitt coaches have found their RB. And Henry is capable as well.

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    1. We could use both RB's. Were shallow in that department. PC will not tell Shai no.

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  57. Joe D or Chris i think you guys know this answer, who was that rb from virginia or NC maybe who came in for the junior day. Small, fast back. Loved pitt but we didnt offer yet. Any word on him

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    1. I assume you mean Sterling Dailey from Virginia.

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  58. Don't be surprised if Florida State pulls the offer from Shai McKenzie.
    Shai is smack talking about another RB that just committed to FSU.
    Comments like he is only a 3star, not as many yards/TD, etc.
    Shai is not a good teammate.
    He could be a cancer for any team. ie. Shellitis.
    My nephew has to key me in on this stuff since he is the twitter person.

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    1. Joe D,
      Would you like to see Shai become a Pitt Panther or not. In one breath you're saying he's the best back in the state, in another breath you're saying he's not a good teammate, a cancer, and has Shellitis. At some point you have to make a decision.

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    2. I don't know at this point.
      Worth the risk. Absolutely.
      He could turn into another Shell. All the signs of Shellitis are there.

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  59. I see that Pitt has landed another MAC-level verbal.

    Sure is wonderful that a program in a real BCS conference now has upped its recruiting game by going after all of these low-tier recruits. That's always a great way to counter that southern speed.

    Chryst is going to crash and burn as a coach because the talent level of his teams is going to be painfully below-average.

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    1. Who is the latest person to commit?

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    2. Yes, All his offers are Mac level. 3star from Ohio.
      However this kid has speed. Sub 11.0 in 100m.
      Similar to a Trent Coles.
      Can you imagine Coles and Motley as CB's. Serious speed between the 2 of them.
      I like Motley for his legit speed.

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    3. Coles has great speed, but his technique and hips are horrible and his knowledge of the coverages are also minimal. He's an athlete though, so I guess you gotta go with what you have. 24/7 has Motley as their lowest rated commit for the 2014 class

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  60. Did the WR from Wisconsin decommit?

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  61. Supposedly he never committed because he wasn't offered. A couple of the recruiting sites had incorrect info on his supposed committing.

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  62. Was referring to Wisconsin WR not being a commit not to Motley who did commit.

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  63. Chris - thoughts on Shai McKenzie on twitter? He appears to be another Rushel Shell type attitude. You've already said he is different. Please explain.

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  64. So Rippy is transfering to Colorado?

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  65. Wow...I thought Rippy might stick around. This is a huge loss. Rippy had so much potential how did we let this one get away. Again, we are transforming from a 4 - 5 star team to a 2 - 3 star. I sure hope Chryst knows what he is doing....

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    1. Rippy has been leaving for a long time. He's friends with Shell.

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    2. Not a loss at all. Did you see Rippy vs. Clairton in the WPIAL championship a couple years ago? He was invisible.

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    3. Easy. He wasn't as good as his 4 shine stars indicated.

      Rippy is heading to Colorado. Think we as Pitt fans have it bad? They went 1-11 last year. They lost to Sacremento State, Fresno State by a score of 69-14 (Fresno was up 42-0 twenty minutes into the game), and lost 7 of their conference games by over 21 points. They previous year was 3-9. They are really, really bad.

      I think that sums up was most other programs think of him, unfortunately. If he was as big of a loss as you think he is, he wouldn't be heading to a program like Colorado.

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  66. I think it's pretty obvious that not everyone likes this coaching staff that PC has assembled. 10 transfers in one year. Guys are not transferring down to D1AA or D2, they are leaving and willing to sit out a year and transferring to squads that are of equal or better talent than Pitt. Where there's flys, there's sh*t. Something is really stinking with this staff and it's not just the way they recruit.

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    1. Wrong. What stinks was what was here when Chryst & staff arrived. They had a team that was more interested in partying & doing drugs than winning football games. The subtractions will be additions going forward.

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    2. Well you just proven you know nothing about college recruiting. I am a college coach that recruits and it happens all the time, a new coach comes in different rules and expectations, players don't buy into it and leave. It is very common all over the place. Plus, you don't start recruiting well until you start to win. It take a coaching staff four to five years to build up their recruiting and establish consistant results.

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    3. Don't agree with recruiting well till you win. That has been proven false. Four to five years is an eternity in D-1 football, no way can you wait that long for results.

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  67. Rippy is no loss. The transfer situation should not be a surprise to anyone. Graham recruited a different kind of player for completely different schemes that what the current staff employs. We need the count the kids this staff has brought in transfer-wise too.

    This entire situation could have been avoided had Wannstedt been kept around. We'd be looking at a defensive line with Darius Hamilton and Noah Spence at end, Donald and Ezell at tackle. The linebackers would have been Price, Gordon and Thomas; Williams, Hendricks and Kysheon Jarrett as three members of the secondary.

    The thought of another possible 6-7 record makes we wonder what could have been.

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    1. Unlike most of the other transfers, Rippy actually was a Chryst recruit.

      I try not to get into "who would have Pitt recruited in Wannstedt was retained" because it's near impossible to guess. Sure, Pitt probably has Kysheon Jarrett, but do they get LaFayette Pitts?

      I know that Gary Nova would be the QB, which wouldn't be encouraging at all.

      I do know that Wannstedt won only 7 games in 2011 despite having Baldwin, Pinkston, Sheard, etc. I find it real hard to believe that he'd have improved on that after losing all those players, and having no adequate replacements on hand.

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    2. Wanny road Jimmy Johnson coattails.
      Great guy but terrible coach.
      When Wanny went solo... da Bears and Dolphins, he flopped.
      Wanny is now a Special Teams coach.

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    3. Wanny had a good staff though at the end of his coaching days. They had Tino look decent and it was his first year starting. Wanny had finally made inroads into Harrisburg/eastern Pa/NJ is what sucks. Pitt never got those kids and that is a prime area. Jeff Halfey or whatever his name was could recruit man.

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  68. FSU, Miami, Virginia, North Carolina, Notre Dame, New Mexico and Old Dominion at home, at best they may go 3-4 at home. Duke, VTech, Navy, GTech & Syracuse on the road. Maybe 2-3, maybe 3-2. At best a 6-6 season, maybe 5-7 or 4-8. After last year's YSU game, I can't even say Old Dominion, New Mexico, or Duke are shoe in games. 7-5 would be a great season considering the (lack) of talent. They have all their tough games at home which gives them a slightly better shot to steal one. But I could also see them losing to New Mexico (Which is one of the absolute worse Division 1 Teams) or Old Dominion (Who is on the verge of becoming a Division 1 program).

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  69. Chris, since 2011, how many football players have transferred out of Pitt?

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  70. One year later this team is completely different than the one who lost to YSU. New Mexico will be a W. Old Dominion and Duke aren't locks by any stretch, but Pitt should win those two also. The system has been in place for over a year and the players who want to be here will make this team better than last seasons.

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