Tuesday, August 13, 2013

I've deleted most of today's posts

Just so people know, I'm now blocking any mentions of Joe D. or any comments by Joe D. that aren't productive or monotonous.  I've already blocked at least 50% of those kinds of comments but now it's going to be 90%. That may mean a lot less posts here but to be honest I don't care because I stand all of this Joe D. talk every day.

58 comments:

  1. longsufferingpittfanAugust 13, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    Probably for the best for the future success of this blog. Thanks.

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  2. I commend you Chris for doing so. While he has something good to say every now and then, I have already quit one site because of his relentless negativity.

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  3. By the way, I said this before but people keep telling me to ban people so I'll say it again. I can't ban people on here. There's no way to do it. If I blocked every post from a particular person they could still come back as somebody else. The only alternative is to make people have to post through Facebook or something like that, and nobody wants that. So hopefully after awhile people will understand what messages can make it and which can not.

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  4. Also Chris you get a lot of heat from some posters on other sites for your realistic and honest commentary in respect to recruiting, recruits and Pitt. I have never seen the validity of their criticism but then again reality bites for a lot of Pitt fans. Keep up the good work for your knowledge is commendable and informative...

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    1. There are always unrealistic fans who get upset if I don't say that Pitt football will be great forever. There the same guys who criticize every single media member for the same reason. They're pathetic, to be honest with you. And they will be the first ones who will cry and whine the first game Pitt loses this year.

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    2. Constructive criticism is fine. But beating the negative drum day after day is another matter... It only hurts the program. My feeling is, say what you want say and then move on.

      BTW... Another school seems to be having problems with kids defecting as well....

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/donaldven-manning-will-transfer-from-virginia-tech/2013/08/11/13d582a4-02c2-11e3-88d6-d5795fab4637_story.html

      Also certain posters bring up Mississippi when comparing Pitt recruiting... Well there seems to be some funny stuff going on there as well. The NCAA is sniffing...SHOCKING!

      http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jeremy-fowler/23107822/source-ncaa-questions-mississippi-state-de-chris-jones-on-ole-miss-recruitment




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  5. This is the best site I found for Pitt football. I take what JD says with a grain of salt and view it in a rhetorical context. Extract some things that are pertinent. I am not convinced that PCs method will be successful. However, this is what we have and I think it's good that a site like this exists to vent and see if other fans are looking from the same glasses. Thanks!

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    1. Other sites such as Scout and Rivals delete most things negative about Pitt sports. This is the only blog that has both positive and negative posts which is why I like this site.

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    2. I post on Scout and there is an ample amount of negative things posted there NOT deleted. Debating is profitable but when it becomes redundant negativism by the same posters over and over it is not even worth replying to. I mean come on why reply to encourage those who only post negative things toward the admin, coaches and team? You either add to an informative debate or you don't.

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  6. Chris, I definitely respect your blog and coverage a Pitt sports. You are entitled to your own opinion, but I will say 70% of your comments about Pitt are negative and I'm being generous. I'll say it again I love your blog, but there are some of us who are real fans and want the program to succeed, and don't feel the need to criticize everything the coaching staff does before the season even starts.

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    1. Pitt football has been a disaster for three years. Most comments should be mostly negative. That's just reality. But I also said that I feel Chryst could do just as well as Harris and Wannstedt, which could mean 8 or 9 win seasons, and I called him an offensive genius. And I think he recruits great sleepers. But the truth is also that he has yet to prove he could be a head coach, some things he's done while running his program is questionable, and he has not proved that he can recruit elite prospects.

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    2. The thing I can't understand is that if we are an up and coming program lead by an offensive guru then why are all the elite local talent going elsewhere? Especially when they could compete to start in many of the skill positions. Wanny got most of the key local talent and so did Harris even when they were beginning their HC career.

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    3. Agree with what Atl posted.
      But I also agree with Chris response.

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    4. The recruiting isn't at a top level. I don't think anybody can seriously disagree with that. You would think a top QB or RB would kill to play for Chryst, especially since there isn't great talent at those positions currently.

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    5. "elite local talent" - oxymoron. Chryst would be better served to get the boosters to buy serious flight time w/ NetJets and hit the road and recruit real difference makers.

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    6. "You would think a top QB or RB would kill to play for Chryst"

      I often find myself thinking the same thing about TE. All Chryst did at Wisconsin was put TE after TE in the NFL. He's gotten a couple good ones in Holtz and Orndoff, but he's also whiffed on a lot of big time TE recruits.

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    7. Tight end isn't a problem, in my opinion. Holtz, Garner, and Orndoff is an excellent trio.

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    8. Agreed. I just think it's odd that for 2014, Pitt's whiffed
      on Dickerson, Wolf, and Long, but hit on Brian O'Neill, an
      unknown with no BCS offers.

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  7. Seems to be a lot of positive buzz about James Conner and what he has been doing at camp. I remember him being a pretty good DE in high school, didn't realize he was so productive at RB. Doke, did you see him play in HS?

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    1. Yeah, he doesn't have a lot of moves but he's big and fast with quick, choppy steps. And he's got good hands.

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  8. Chris, my only thought here is that you would post more but I realize you don't get paid for this. Can't imagine how much you do put into this blog so I am grateful for what you do. I am trying to ask good questions not the same questios others post so I can get you to share more of your insight. Are you working on another blog or website?

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    1. what I should ve said is when do think you website would be up & running? Btw, what is the status on thomas?

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    2. "what I should ve said is when do think you website would be up & running? Btw, what is the status on thomas"

      Not good. I hear his mom is involved. This is the same mom who jumped all over the Beaver Falls coach after the lost to the Quips in the WPIAL Championship Game. If she tries that with the Pitt staff, Thomas won't be coming back...

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    3. Here is an excellent interview with Devin Street in the Trib

      He confirms a lot of what the Chryst supporters have been saying about the team. There is a bad culture on the team that needs to go...

      http://triblive.com/sports/college/pitt/4513617-74/street-pitt-guys#ixzz2brDWCpQe

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  9. Chris, I think we are getting FSU at good time early in the season. If we are going to pull an upset this would be the time to do it. Later in the season would be harder. I am not saying we will win but I think the game will be close

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    1. Yeah, Pitt has a big talent disadvantage so their only chance is if FSU isn't playing at their best, and since it's the first game there's always a possibility that they aren't at their best.

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    2. I'm shocked its only a 10pt spread right now.
      That is what I found online.

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    3. People can comment on this but don't comment on Joe D. I'm using this as an example of a comment that he can make. Now if he keeps saying it or refers to Shellitis or Chryst doesn't get it, etc. then I will block it. Just like any personal criticisms of him will be blocked. Just rational discussion from now on please.

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    4. @Joe D.

      You and I can agree 100% on the point spread. I have no idea why it's not higher. My guess is that a lot of people remember how close the Pitt/ND game was and they are thinking Pitt will hang with FSU. I think the FSU roster in much more talented than that over-rated ND team and Pitt just won't be able to match up for a full 60 minutes.

      Boy do I hope I'm proven wrong!

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  10. Can we expect a few more commitment announcements soon (to Pitt or elsewhere)? I would imagine a number of kids want to get it out of the way before the season starts?

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    1. It's definitely rare for kids to recruit during the season so I can see an upswing nationally in next couple of weeks.

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  11. Good call. I really like this blog but it has been exhausting of late. I like good conversation and different opinions but lately it has been brutal. Keep up the good work Chris.

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  12. The actions of a few always ruin it for the majority. Thanks for a great blog though.

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  13. I saw in the post today that Bennett is still out of practice and is now wearing a large cumbersome brace. This doesn't sound good. Chris, do you think if Bennett has something serious Conner is capable to carry the load. The running game is everything...

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    1. Connor could be good but I don't know if he's the special type of talent that can be excellent as a true freshman. If Pitt has health problems at RB it could be very bad news.

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  14. Chris,

    I hear what you’re saying about telling it like it is. But PSU lands players in the face of a scandal not only because of Larry Johnson, but because they and their minions in the media control the message. From moderators and owners of websites, to bloggers, to PSU moles inside newspapers like the PG. Any negative or dissenting opinion gets deleted, banned and squashed. Only positive press is allowed. Then there are Pitt fans who don’t hesitate to throw their favorite team under the bus. Not saying we should be like the nitters, but I think people should think twice before posting knee jerk negative comments. Constructive is ok. But harping can only make things work. PSU has and will survive this scandal and leave Pitt in the dust because they control the message.

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    1. We'll have to agree to disagree on that. PSU clearly can't control the message too much since the very name causes people around the county to reply with scorn over the last year or two.

      PSU is staying above ground because the fans, the administration, and the coaching staff won't let them fail. Football is everything at PSU but it's not everything at Pitt. Not enough people want Pitt football to be great.

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  15. Pitt's 2014 recruiting class, currently with 16 committs, is ranked #43 by Rivals.
    Average of 2.67 stars.
    Pitt is ranked 10th of 14 in ACC.
    If you swap out Maryland for Louisville, then Pitt is 11th of 14.
    PSU has 12 committs and is ranked #28 with average 3.33 stars.

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  16. Chris, this post was the PERFECT follow-up to your previous one, about the NCAA quiet period....

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  17. Chris, I appreciate the work you do here. This is the best Pitt blog I can find, and you usually tell it like it is. However, I feel you sometimes swing too negative (and on rare occasions too positive). For example, in the Aug 7th post, there was no need to label Pitt a "reeling program". Yes, the program is mediocre, and has been for 30+ years. But reeling indicates a program in fast decline, and I don't see that at all. You could have used reeling to describe Pitt after Haywood, or after Graham left. But Chryst has stabilized things, and the program is rebuilding. True, if Thomas left/is leaving/will leave (I can't keep track anymore), it would hurt. But regardless of what happens with him, I see the program in slightly better shape this year than last year. Unfortunately, the competition will be tougher, so that will cancel things out and leave us with another 5 to 7 win season. Not great, but definitely not reeling.

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    1. We don't know if he stabilized the program. Everybody says that but his regime is still very much in the air. It could go either way.

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    2. Chris... unless you witnessed 72-0 in person - you have no idea what the definition of "reeling program" is. You don't.

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    3. I don't know, the program has had a pretty embarrassing and cataclysmic few years. That could change quickly but at the moment the program is still in the pits. That's the perception. That's why the top local kids aren't interested.

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    4. I'd say losing to YSU is reeling and just as bad as 72-0.

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  18. 1. This site is at it's best when Chris interacts with us, though I understand that it's not completely realistic as he doesn't get paid to run a Q&A session.

    2. Very few have an issue with valid criticism. The problem is a lot of the negative squad seem to take a whole lot of pleasure in complaining. He who must not be named takes it to another level. And a lot of them seem to disappear when things go well.

    3. Sandusky and crew get a lot of scorn, true. But I noticed a lot of sympathy from even the national media (let alone the local) towards Bill O'Brien, the PSU players, students, and fans. It's no surprise that the scandal itself has had no impact on recruiting.

    4. YSU was a perfect storm; a confident underdog walking in to play an overconfident team that clearly had it's head in another place.
    To be as bad as 72-0 Pitt would have had to finish at 2 wins last season. It's pretty obvious that the Pitt team that showed up for YSU (and Cincy) did not show up for Virginia Tech, Rutgers, Notre Dame, etc.

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  19. 72-0 was worse than loosing to YSU. Ohio St returned a punt for a touchdown with 8 men on the field and Pitt had 12 on the field. I remember Majors quote after the game. "I would like to thank Coach Cooper for trying to stop the game from getting out of hand, but we just wouldn't let him." ....That is reeling. I think the next week Pitt lost to Miami 55-0 so something like that. Those were the dark years.

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    1. You beat me to it on this post. I was there for the 72-0 game and I specifically remember Ohio St returning the punt for a TD without the full number of players on the field (however I thought they had 10 and we had 12). It was ugly, real ugly.

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    2. They got beat by 14 points to a 1-AA school that finished 7-4. If that isn't reeling what is?

      At least OSU is a top team.

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  20. I wasn't paying attention at the time of 72-0 (I was so disappointed in the plummet from the heights of the late 70's and early 80's that I had just lost interest entirely by that time) but, I was all in as a student during the Dave Hart era of the late 1960s and saw incredible beatings administered by Oklahoma, Notre Dame (the clock was allowed to run continuously in the 2nd half out of mercy to Pitt in one game), PSU and others. Those Pitt teams where so physically inferior (much smaller, much slower, far less athletic, etc.) than those opponents that to even think that the current situation represents a "reeling" program is ludicrous, in that perspective. The current team may be lacking in the quality and quantity of talent compared to the "big boys" but there is not the huge discrepancy in overall team size, strength, speed, athleticism, etc. that was evident with those 1960s squads which looked like high school teams playing college teams and, as a result, where run over and around at will by their opponents, even making someone's "bottom 10" list multiple times. We aren't there and unlikely in the near future to get to that point. If nothing else, the NCAA 25/85 ship rule serves to prevent it getting that bad.

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    1. The program has been a laughingstock for three years. It's been a national punchline. That's reeling. Chryst can end all of that very quickly this season, and I hope he does, but until he does the Pitt program is still very much in bad shape.

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  21. Post Gazette reports Pitt's passing game "Making Strides with Savage at the Helm."

    Trib Review reports Pitt's passing game "remans sporadic after 1st week of camp."

    Which one is closer to the truth?

    I have my guess.

    PittofDreams

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  22. Dokes, your comment about the program reeling is pretty obvious with the recent coaching assignments. Why does a so called major or gram have so many graduate positions as coaches. Is this to save money?

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  23. The Pitt coaching changes...

    No reason for immediate concern regarding Poteat or Mickey Turner or even Rudolph switching to backs.

    It comes down to the person doing the teaching.

    In any case... each of them, especially Poteat... would have a wealth of knowledge compared to anything held by 19 and 20 year olds.

    Their success rides on their abililty to get and keep the attention and respect of the players and effecively communicate things that the kids can assimilate and put to action.

    It's not news that the college ranks is littered with coaches who aren't worth a damn and wouldn't have a job if it weren't for their close ties to the head coaches who repeatedly hire them.

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  24. I was there for both. As bad as YSU was, it was nothing compared to 72-0.

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  25. I agree with Chris 100%! The program is reeling from to many coaching changes. Which has affected the recruiting in a negative way and the jury is still out on coach Chryst and his abiblity to land top recruits, because he has inherited a program that is reeling and he has to start from the bottom! This rebuild is going to take time.

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  26. The program is NOT reeling. You don't beat VTech, Rutgers and take #2 ND to multiple OT's... all while moving to a NEW conference w/ more $ involved. Get a grip people.

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  27. beating ND would have went a long way to helping things. Can't let things slip through the cracks like that. Year 2 is the key in any coaching change. We'll see if any progress is being made.

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  28. We were one average field goal kicker away from being 8-4 last year and knocking off the number 2 team in the country on prime time. If our fifth-year scholarship kicker had been more concerned about making chip shots and less concerned with throwing parties, no one would be using words like "disaster" to describe last season and recruiting this season would likely look much different.

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