Saturday, October 26, 2013

Navy 24 Pittsburgh 21

1.  So much for the fans who aid that at least Paul Chryst can beat the teams he's supposed to beat.

2.  Pretty terrible coaching all the way around.  Chryst seemed to have little idea what he was doing, down to keeping two of his timeouts.  The offensive and defensive play calling were just as horrid.

3.  Tom Savage was mediocre again and now the coaches don't even have him throwing deep down the field, the only thing he can really do effectively.  Savage completed 20 of 27 passes for 203 yards, and two touchdowns. He also didn't throw an interception. But, like I said, he was mostly mediocre, and didn't make plays when he had to. In other words, he was Tino Sunseri.

4. Devin Street caught 9 passes for 96 yards and a touchdown. Tyler Boyd caught just three passes, and two of them came late. The three catches amounted to only 35 yards with one of them going for a touchdown.

5.  Pitt started off running the ball down Navy's throat but that changed quickly. For the game the Panthers ran for 135 yards.  Navy was going up nearly 200 yards a game rushing coming into the game. Isaac Bennett led with 77 yards on 22 carries. James Conner added 28 yards on 7 carries, but he also fumbled in Navy territory.

6.  Matt Yoklic continues to do a bad job of punting and his shank late in the game was a killer.

7.  Aaron Donald was all over the field but there's only so much one guy can do.  The rest of the defense started well, but the Midshipmen then slowly and methodically drove the ball down Pitt's throat  in the second half.

8.  Pitt is now 4-3 and will be an underdog next week at Georgia Tech.  As of now, they may be looking at another 6-6 regular season record, at best, and to reiterate what I've said all season, I still see no progress yet in Chryst's regime.

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  1. It is time to start Voytik and at least start preparing for the future. Next year might not be as bad if he gets his feet wet this year. The best we can do this year is probably 6-6. Time to move on.

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  2. They are who we thought they were!!!

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  3. 16-17 since Pederson fired Wanny. Milkman is so in over his head its hilarious. Its so bad I long for the days of Wanny!! (LOL) PGH media likes him tho so he won't get any heat.






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  4. That game was terrible ..very vanilla offense and soft zone defense.it wont happen but i want to see what voytik has

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  5. What a disappointment! We gaffed several times on opportunities to convert 3rd downs so we can at least get to within field goal range.

    I agree with you Chris.....I don't understand what these coaches are doing. We have 3 good TEs and we barely use them. The wide receivers are relegated to short passes...nothing deep down the field. The opposing defense is not surprised at our plays and they appear to be ready for them more often than not.

    As for our defense, we don't adjust to changes by the opposing offense. If our defensive players were supposed to be our strength this year, then we assumed too much risk by hiring a DC with zero previous experience in that role.

    We should be doing better than this!

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  6. You will never see Voytik unless Savage gets hurt. This team is getting worse each game. I am so disgusted with the entire program. With the players he is recruiting this is what we can expect until PC is relieved of his duties. Then we start all over again with the incompetent ADs hire. But, why should we expect any different....

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  7. looks like that advantage of being so close to the steelers has worked out...

    just like the steelers we have stubborn, boneheaded playcalling

    just like the steelers the defense can't get off the field on 3rd down

    just like the steelers we get FGs instead of TDs

    so great we've turned into the steelers it's just that we decided to do it right when the steelers started being mediocre.

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  8. chryst will be gone in 2 years he sucks pitt sucks they should all wear paper bags on there heads coachs and players boyd found out how hard they hit at this level he lost his guts he is done.

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  9. I saw the tweet from Sam Werner, using the words "complacent" and "overconfident" to describe the 2nd half performance. Where is the desire to dominate for an entire 60 minutes? Also, you have mentioned the offensive line and its failure to continue its success for an entire game (it looks good early, slowly declines as the game progresses). Combine this with the defensive performance late in this game and must we begin to question the strength and conditioning program?

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  10. I out this loss more on the lack of offensive production than the defense's 4th quarter collapse.

    No pass blocking on obvious passing downs. Almost guaranteed a sack on third and long. Also the o-line continues to commit false start and holding penalties just when they can afford them the least.

    No adjustment when Navy began blitzing linebackers to stop the run.

    Savage seems gun shy after so many sacks. I thought he left the pocket way to soon on the last offensive series.

    You beat the option by scoring a lot. Navy stayed close and the threat of the pass had Pitt back on their heels.

    At least they saved two timeouts for next week. They do carry over from game to game, right?

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  11. Of course there's progress: where Tino used to blindly run smack into oncoming blitzers, Savage manages to scramble wildly and even gain a yard before he goes down. Actually, it's pretty amazing that Pitt's opponents don't just blitz every single down. It doesn't matter how many extra blockers Pitt keeps home, none of them can recognize the blitz, and their receivers can't manage to get open even against bad defenses that open themselves up by blitzing.

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  12. Very disappointed with the effort. Now we know why Savage came to Pitt and left both Rutgers and Arizona. He has the physical assets but not the mental tools. He does not see the field very well and could use a lot more touch on his passes. Sad to say, I am starting to agree with Chris. For us to get back on track we now need to pull an upset or two. Going to the Georgia Tech game so hopefully my luck will hold. Pitt under Chryst has never lost when I am in attendance. To0 bad the sample size is only one game.

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  13. This one looked bad .... you could just sense that Navy would break us down .. not sure what team will show up week to week. O still seems tentative .. D is too soft. This L could send us into a spiral if we don't rebound strongly. Hope things will get figured out quickly, although I am doubtful. Let's go Pitt !!

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  14. My picking 5 or 6 wins for the season is looking pretty good right now.

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  15. Q. Why were Pitt's DBacks playing 10 yards off of the line while they were going against a team that emphasizes the run and does not have speedy receivers?
    A. Because Pitt did not want to pay for a real defensive coordinator.

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  16. I blame this loss entirely on Chryst. When Pitt was punishing Navy via the run early in the game, Navy had to make adjustments to stop it. That means there has to be different ways to exploit the Navy defense. If Chryst had any idea what he was doing, he must re-adjust to Navy's adjustments. Screens, play actions, spread the field, I don't know, but he's supposed to be the guru. Pitt should have easily been able to score 5 or 6 td's on that team. If Chryst can't make these types of adjustments, he won't succeed here. That's too bad, cause I am rooting for him, but as everyone else has said, he looks to be in over his head.

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  17. 5 or 6 wins will be a wish. 4 and 8.

    House will get fired at the end of the season.

    We will see Voytik start at Syracuse unless Savage pulls his head out of his arose.

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  18. Chris, I wonder how you see 2 more wins on Pitt's schedule? Maybe Cuse, but they play us tough. I think Pitt is done winning this year....maybe one big upset, but not with House in the house.

    And why didn't that idiot Chryst challenge the Vinopal interception?
    And why

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  19. The wind prevented the deep balls. Watching Savage struggle in the short passing game is just painful. Even with little or no rush - the guy just doesn't seem to have the ability to look off a receiver. His tunnel vision leads to him scrambling which never turns out well.

    House will not get fired. He's Chryst's buddy… there will be no changes in the staff in the off-season… why? They will play GT/ND or Miami close - they will surely lose - but it will come down to the last play like today. Everyone will feel good about the team going into the off-season.

    How wrong they will be.

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  20. It will be the same ole Pitt until we have a Chancellor that understands the economic importance of the football brand and an AD that is competent at hiring and wonderful at raising money.

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  21. Hate to say I told you so, but to all the kool-aid drinking yahoos on the Lair who defended Chryst, I TOLD YOU SO. I told you the day he was hired it was a bad hire, I told you he never had proven himself as a head coach and did not have the personality for it. I told you he sucked as a recruiter - as evidenced by all our MAC level 2 star recruits. I told you his coaching hires for the most part were jokes. But the Kool-aid drinking lair posters said otherwise and complained to get me and some others evicted from the site for speaking the truth. Oh well, can;t say you weren't warned. Cheers

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    1. So who did you want them to hire?

      As you're self-proclaiming yourself to be all knowing, I'm just wondering the name of this coach. The one who had head coaching experience, would have brought in nothing but 5*'s, hired only the best of best assistant coaches, and would have won every game...

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  22. dockish is the only writer to have the guts to tell the truth abought how bad chryst is
    if outher writers would do the same things might change..
    we really suck at pitt the coachs stink

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    1. True Indeed. I applaud Chris for his candor and wish other media in town would be similiar.

      Alas, they bought into the "he fits the yinzer mold so we will treat him nicely" trap whereas they were all over that snake Graham from Day 1 because he was a brash talking Texan

      Typical provincialism

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  23. Chris, you as much said it when they hired this guy - he's flat out in way over his head.

    Chryst was a terrible hire and we all knew it.

    From the 1st time I heard him speak to the hiring of House as the DC, I knew that we were going to hit another Pitt low if that was possible.

    The fans who say - "give him a chance blah blah blah..."

    Unfortunately, those same fans will be getting their wish because we're stuck with him now as the cheap Pitt administration ain't going to cut their losses now....pun intended now.

    I told some guys BEFORE the Navy game that this will be our last win....I was wrong only about one thing - I expected to win this game.

    The only way for Pitt FB to at least try and come back is to completely blow this thing up - The AD and this head coach have to go and we have to completely start over ....again.

    It pains me to say this but, I can only hope that we DO lose the rest of our games AND there is some kind of major distraction in the program that forces Chryst out - it's our only hope.

    I was talking to a very long time Pitt fan yesterday who has completely given up on the FB program and didn't even know who we were playing.

    Just another sad indicator on the status of Pitt football which at this point, is completely hopeless.

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  24. The staff is in over the heads.. Wind at their back the entire 3rd quarter and we continue to run the ball. Have the ever watched football before. Typically on deep passes your are going to get a catch or pass interference have the time.. Why not try it... sweep to Boyd.. worked well beginning of the year... lets pass on doing that. A reverse, a trick play, show me something... It seems like we only run about 8 or 9 plays.. I would love to scheme for our team.. i'd spend 30 minutes on that then go to a movie or bowling or something... Conner fumbles... which was bad... so lets not give him a chance to redeem himself at all after that play and keep going with Bennet who was not effective at all after the 1st drive.. ( way to build a fresmen's confidence).. I will be shocked if he is still our coach in 2-3 years. This prehistoric offense is just not going to cut it in college football these days and especially in the ACC Brand of football.. On to the defense... So we have our lbrs still 7-8 yds off the ball on 3rd and short situations against this team. The dbs 12 yds off the ball when there is no threat to get beat deep. Why do we always get outcoached at halftime. Other teams make adjustments and we never do. We always stick to our guns even when it is not working. I cannot believe i'm saying this but I would much rather have Wanny and his staff still here.. They had a ton of shortcomings but the staff was better and could at least go after recruits against bcs schools and not win them over Mac Schools.. The power struggle between Steve P who thought Wanny had too much pull was the reason he was let go.. The Chancellor actually really liked Wanny. When they went with Graham it was actually a smart move. He is a used car salesmen but at least he understands the way the game is going and to get athletes in space and force lbr's to cover receivers etc... With time we could have been something with him but not with this staff, these schemes, and this play calling. We look more and more like the Steelers each week.. they must be rubbing off on us.. At least the Steelers put some wrinkles in last week. I see us maybe winning one more game with the same play calling and schemes. I really think it is going to get much worse before it gets better....

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    1. I too was a Wanny's guy. The 2010 campaign was a disappointment for sure. But with Lewis, Hyno (they both stay if the Stache wasn't fired) and the weak schedules in 2011 and 2012, Pitt missed out on possible 10-win seasons. This program is always screwing up and 32 consecutive seasons with three-plus losses is proof.

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    2. In retrospect, Wanny should have never been fired. Just my opinion.

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  25. Chris - Would you fire Chryst and start over again?

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    1. Attendance at the NC game in a few weeks took a hit yesterday no doubt.

      Chris: What are the chances of Georgia Tech blowing out Pitt next week?

      Do you see Nordenberg's exit next year having any effect on Pitt football, particularly Chryst's job security?

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    2. Chris:

      Do you see Nordenberg's exit next year having an effect on Chryst's job security or football in general?

      How much is Pederson graded on home attendance which, by the way, took a hit for the NC game with yesterday's loss?

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    3. Pitt is a 10 point underdog so they obviously may have a hard time.

      And with Nordenberg leaving I think that clearly makes the rest of the people at the university uneasy. The new guy won't have the same loyalty since they aren't his people.

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    4. I'd be surprised if the next Chancellor has a different (i.e increased interest) perspective on the role of athletics than Nordenberg. I actually expect a focus on increasing Pitt's academic ranking as Pitt seeks to close the gap with the UNCs, UVAs and Dukes.

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    5. i want to agree not to fire Chryst at season end but i'm about 90 percent sure we have a new coach at the beginning of the 2016 season.. Why not tackle that now and get someone in that has some fire, someone who is a number 1 and not a number 2 guy.. Someone that will hire a staff based off of skills and not who they are comfortable with... I can start to see why the world's most interesting d coordinator left now....

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    6. Good grief when will you guys get it with the hire a big name coach mantra - THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN AT PITT, NO MATTER WHO THE CHANCELLOR IS!

      The fact of the matter is that budget decisions for major college sports are really driven by how much money the program pulls in from boosters and alum associations, because that's who is going to fund the check. Pitt doesn't pull in that type of cash from those sources, so you will not see the big name hire here, period.

      That why Smiley focuses on finding these coaches that are at smaller schools or are coordinators at bigger schools. You don't have to write the big check, and sometimes you get lucky, as he did with Howland/Dixon.

      Mike W.

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  26. This team continues to wilt in the 4th Quarter.

    You know when it didn't wilt late and actually came on stronger?

    When they had a real S&C Coach and not a guy who teaches yoga.

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  27. This team has no swagger. They need some fire from the QB like Palko and Pistol Pete. Savage ,like Sunseri, has no emotion. It is possible to be too level headed?
    I think Voytik could be a real option. He can run and he was awarded best "field general' at Elite 11 QB camp. The running option could really help Coach Chyrst break out of his crazy conservative streak that he has developed. Also Voytik could run for those first downs when the called play breaks down. As some of you might remember, that is what guys like Palko and Pistol Pete were able to do. Nothing spectacular but guts and fire to run and keep the drive going.
    Just some thoughts from Jimmy T.

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    1. Chryst doesn't have the balls to give Voytik meaningful snaps during a game. Chryst is more vanilla than Wannstedt. Hard to believe, but true.

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  28. the last time Pitt didn't consistently wilt in the 4th quarter was back in 2010 where the stats show that they consistently outscored their opponents in the 4th quarter.

    The continual OLine breakdown in the 4th quarter over the past few years in inexcusable .... especially the last 2 weeks against undersized defenses. Isn't a big OL supposed to wear down wear down these defenses?

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    1. Yeah - they piled up 4th quarter points in the 31-3 loss to Miami and the 35-10 loss to WVU that season

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  29. I find it interesting how the koolaid drinkers finally woke up on all the boards.
    Surprisingly many want to see Chryst fired.
    Where is that crowd that said Chryst and crew was going to "coach 'em up"... or the Wisky comparison with 2star recruiting???
    If Chryst doesn't replace House, Haering, and Beckerfield at the end of the season, then Chryst will be gone after 2015. He will not or should not get an extension with a lame duck Chancellor.

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    1. Chryst is not going to replace House, Haering and Beckerfield. No way. They are his friends and House/Beckerfield he is their mentors. If he considers them as failures - then he is a failure. Not going to happen.

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    2. The House hiring was ridiculous. They had a really good coordinator last year and let him go (not sure if that is why Huxtable left) for this inexperienced coach.

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    3. They let Huxtable go because he was too loud. Yes, I'm serious.

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  30. Joe maybe they can hire Mark Stoops, he is doing a great job at Kentucky. Last I saw they had 1 win. So your football acumen is zero. Chryst will get an extension this off season you watch.

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    1. Stoops is recruiting EXTREMELY well.
      He will do well next year.
      I think my football acumen is pretty darn good.
      Chryst will be here for 2014 season, if he doesn't win 7 regular season games in 2014 then he will be gone. New chancellor.

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  31. Positives:

    - The short passing game everyone was looking for showed up. How'd you like it?

    - The Defense came out aggressive and was effective early.

    - FG kicker had a good game.

    - Those saying "ol coach'em up" doesn't work just got another example of it working against Pitt...

    Opportunities:

    - Way too many pre-snap penalties. That's inexcusable and reflects poorly on the coaches.

    - The D losing it's aggressiveness, don't know if it was them just thinking the game was over, the plays called, or both. But it started on the last drive before half where Navy should have scored if not for the INT and stayed for the entire second half.

    - Bennett and Conner need to follow blockers better. Both, especially Bennett since Conner disappeared after the fumble, missed a number of good chances by cutting things off. What's with Bennett, time and time again, running into defenders who were laying on the ground?

    - Don't understand why the DB's where all 10-15 yards away from the line against an opponent who passes about 10% of the time.

    - Offense never had a flow, or good mix. Seemed like they switched between a run series and then a pass series. That's just poor play calling.

    - They should go with an I formation a lot more often.

    - I didn't pay much attention to the punter last year, but is he trying to angle punts this year? Maybe that's an explanation for his poor performance.

    Overall:

    Disappointing loss. Always find it funny how quickly people are to throw out their venom (i.e. fire the coach, the AD, the president, close the school, move out of the country, blow up the world...) after a loss. This is college football and upset's happen every week. To us it might seem that they happen more frequently to Pitt but I'm guessing Virginia, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Boston College, etc. fans think the same of their school.

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    1. Good level headed post Kent Bowler. It beats the insanity I've read on this blog...

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    2. I feel that the fans have actually been patient after what a joke the program has become since 2010. It appears now that the fans are finally realizing that winning is not a priority at Pitt ... the final straw being hiring the most unqualified DC in the BCS.

      They were willing to give it a little time but now the only thing that can calm the masses down would be a win at GT.

      If the rest of this season goes as I fear it will, I GUARANTEE there will be even more yellow seats next year

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    3. Anony 6:15,
      At this point, that "insanity" is on all the boards... rivals, scout, etc.
      It's called "reality".

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    4. JoeD - In your opinion that is reality. Every team has problems as well. It took how many coaches before ND got it right? Before Pete Carroll at USC how many coaches did they go through?? What's going on at Nebraska??? Before Ken Sumlin at Texas A&M how many coaches did they go through. You need to spend more time watching other College Football teams besides Pitt and less time spewing insanity and see that there are problems with lots of programs. The same people ripping Chryst are the same people that ripped Graham. How's he doing? I guess he got smarter when he went to ASU???

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    5. I gave Graham about 6 months since his hire, I wanted him gone before his first game. Snake oil salesman and I saw right through him. He is not a "pittsburgh" type at all.
      Chryst, didn't like him since his 1st media event regarding recruiting.. "Just offer", etc. Then, he didn't immediately make calls (he had a 48hr window) to call the commits to introduce himself, etc. I like Chryst as a person, but he can't recruit and naming House as DC was the last straw and he needs to get the boot. He doesn't have the leadership skills, etc to be HC....

      You singled out Panthersprey as having "insane" comments, I was correcting you that after Navy, it's ALL blogs/boards that have these same comments. So either everyone is insane or you need a reality check!

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    6. JoeD - You are very obssessive about beating the negative drum about Pitt. What is your solution? Fire Chryst? What would you do and how? It's easy to be negative. Anyone can do that.

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    7. Finally someone who makes some sense in a critique of Pitt's performance. Thanks Kent.

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    8. After what the program went through the past few years, it will take monumental failure in order to have PC fired. One of the things this prgram desperately needs is stability at the top, so as long as PC wins 6-7 games a year, he'll be here.

      Not getting to the next level isn't what got Wanny fired, having his players rountinely being arrested did. Administrations will put up with some problems like that occasionally if you have a nationally prominent program. When you have thugs in your program on a yearly basis and you can't eben win the Big east, you're shown the door.

      Mike W.

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    9. Anony, 11:45
      My solution for this year is fire House, Beckerfield, and Haering.
      If Chryst doesn't, then I would fire Chryst after 2014 season! Trust me, next season will be 6 wins also.

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  32. Chris,

    When is Nordy officially stepping down? Who are the candidates for his replacement? Lastly, what do you see happening with Stevie P. once the new chancellor is on board?

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    1. I think that's the million dollar question.

      To me, the current administrations vision for the football program is to try and win with as little public relations risk as possible. And to do it on the cheap. I think PC is aligned with that thinking and is why those looking for a change will be disappointed for years to come.

      Now, will a new leader come in and refocus Pitt football on winning at no cost? Maybe, but I say not going to happen unless the boasters show they're willing to step up in a big way and cover all the costs.

      PC makes around $1.8 with probably the two coordinators making around $300 each. Add in the other coaches and the budgets maybe around $3.5M for the coaching staff.

      To go big-time, who's going to pay the cost to buy out those contracts. Who's then going to pay the $4M needed for a new prime-time HC, and another $1M+ for new coordinators, and say another $1M for the other coaches. So that's around $6M/yr to start plus additional money for expanded recruiting, etc.

      I know Pitt's getting more money being in the ACC, but that's used to cover the other sports. So unless the boasters come in, or the administration shocks the world and opens the checkbook, I feel Pitt will remain a average team (around 30-60 range in rankings) when it comes to football.

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    2. Ok, or they could ask the "boosters"....but if they want to pay big they can start calling themselves the "boasters"

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    3. That's the football program's biggest problem, asking the "boosters". As I've said in other threads, the program's biggest failing is it's funding. Pitt does not have many boosters that will throw money at the prgram, and honestly, I don't think Nordy would want them if they did. Nordy likes the clean image of the athletic department, and for the cost that would be incurred to make the program nationally prominent again, that just isn't in the budget now or ever will be.

      Nordy decided Ptt would be his best version of Duke North years ago, I doubt we'll ever see a change from that.

      Mike W.

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  33. PittStadiumShuffleOctober 27, 2013 at 6:29 PM

    Hotel - $350
    Tickets - $90
    Tailgate - $150
    Watching Pitt lose yet another game they were supposed to win - Priceless

    P.S. Being in the company of those who have served or are serving our country was worth the trip.

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  34. Pitt has not improved at all since Wanny was given the pink slip...

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    1. Or Walt Harris

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    2. Yeah, at least they were fun to watch under Walt. I thought that was the type of coach we were getting with Chryst. He seemed to have an offensive guru pedigree. I'm pretty sure I was wrong.

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  35. 270 yards against ODU was a mirage, and it's unbelievable that that statistic is going to sit as high in the record books. Pitt's o-line is a gaggle of slow, lumbering over-sized plodders, who got little-to-no push up front after the first quarter - against Navy. Unfortunately the problem is compounded with a slow running back with poor vision who consistently lowers his head and runs into the pile. It'd be comical to watch if it wasn't sadly frustrating.

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  36. Much venom is being spewed towards our coach. Although I do not believe he should get as much as he is getting, the facts speak volumes. First, he has little talent to work with. Period. If you don't believe me, look at the Pitt draft picks over the past two years and also look at projections this year. It just ain't there folks, sorry.

    For others who think PC or any other head coach can recruit a lot of 4 and 5 stars to Pitt, you are delusional....right now. Pitt is not a destination program. For those that say Stoops can at Ky, that is abit of a stretch. Stoops has recruited higher stars at his program. Stoops can offer the old "in order to be the best I can offer you the opportunity to play against the best". Pitt can't offer that in the Big East or ACC. And now for Saturday. I had the chance to go to Navy and watch the Pitt game, or go to another game in the big 5 conference between two very good teams. I chose the latter and observed the game from the field and moved up to the Athletic Director Box for some great conversation during halftime. I sported a Pitt Hoodie and it immediately got a charge out of one AD. "The old script thing is more recognizable and would probably even help their recruiting". My response was what? Their responses focused on brand recognition and that Pitt had none!! That is solely on the AD. With that, the flood gates opened. Both liked our Coach but didn't care for our AD. Both believe you can have academic excellence and athletic excellence but that you have to work harder to attain both. They each spoke to the development of strategic plans for growing their respective brands, adding to the academic reputation of their schools through innovative learning opportunities for student athletes, maintaining excellent reputations between the school and the athletes, post graduation. They even hire the "faces" of the prior programs to help incoming recruits understand that they will take care of them in the future should a professional career not materialize. This would be akin to Pitt hiring Mark May and allowing him to do his work with ESPN too. Mark May is recognizable to all recruits. Imagine that concept. It may be done with Desmond Howard, Eddie George and others to name a few. The last thing I was told was that each of the programs didn't fear Pitt in recruiting because Pitt doesn't offer a gameday experience on campus.

    That is all I can add. I obviously didn't watch the Pitt game and trust some of your evaluations as to what happened. It is sad, but I do think that after speaking to the AD's about Pitt, we may only be 3-5 years away from some success.When prodded, they said "no strategic plan" for championships in each sport, let alone just one. They know Pederson and know he doesn't have a clue. Okay, they didn't say that.......exactly! Heading to Big10 territory in two weeks. Will probably hear more....

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  37. Mike Gottfried part II? They did it with Johnny, so you never know what kind of crap will be thrust on us from Oakland.

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  38. @Steve O--That's what happens when you have an incompetent athletic administration with tight purse strings and no solid backup plan in place when it fires a coach for not reaching the heights desired. Instead of improving on the situation you wind up with a far worse condition than you had originally. Out of the frying pan and into the fire!

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  39. Terrible sideline coaching. Early in second period Pitt gets flagged for too many men in backfield then very next play called for illegal substitution. I was at the game and there was confusion all over the Pitt huddle. Guys moving in and out. The crowd is yelling for a flag for several seconds. Finally it gets thrown. I don't know why Pitt does not call timeout. I watched replay later that evening and you could not really see the how many guys were moving in and out of the huddle. The announcers did not really comment on it. Point is Pitt should obviously have called a timeout but did not.

    Also, plodding guards. It is painful to watch them pull. But there is not enough speed at virtually every position.

    Why not have Boyd return a kick that is 6 or more yards deep in endzone. He might not make a play but it seemed Pitt was playing safe. Take a chance at least once with a superior athlete to make a play. Not to mention getting the ball to him more often than Pitt tried.

    Pitt looked tired and complacent the whole day. But they have too many mediocre or below the line players on both sides of the ball to walk away with a win against a team like Navy that they should be able to beat.

    Too bad Pitt won't be playing Navy more often in the future (not the least because I live in Suburban DC. It is a great place to spend a weekend to see a game.

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    1. This is an example of what Street commented on when he said some things need to be cleaned up. Its the little things that get over looked by this staff. I know the players can only put in about 20 hours per week, how many hours is the staff putting in? Seems like they have 1 plan each week, even that doesn't work, they have no answers during the game.

      Taking your timeouts home with you, its the little things.

      We actually got flagged twice for having 5 guys in the back field. We got a rookie coach and a rookie staff....its showing.

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  40. The defense has played well enough be 6-1...The problem is the offense. They are horrible.

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    1. actually the defense is well enough for 5-2. If you are going to give them credit for losses, you have to give the offense the sole credit for a 58-55 win

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  41. Takeaways from Navy...

    - This was Tom Savage's BEST GAME as a complete Quarterback with a couple of exceptions. The one big one was his quick decision to throw hard pass inside to Garner which went incomplete and failing to see the wide-open Holtz running free to the back corner of the end zone. The difference in the game.

    I've been critical of Savage all year. But in this game, Navy was geared to stop the long ball. Savage took what Navy gave him and did look a little like Tino by dinking and dunking the football to tight ends and backs. Now if he can just combine that with the Long Ball once in awhile... he will be on his way to becoming a more COMPLETE Quarterback.

    - T.J. Clemmings is Pitt's BEST Offensive Lineman. He was pancaking his guy all day long and showed his athleticism in pass protection as he consistently got back quickly to force his rusher to the outside.

    - Bennett again deserves credit for running hard, this time against a Real Defense unlike Old Dominion. But his limitations in terms of speed and cutting ability are obvious. Both he and Connoer are slow to the hole and lack the ability to make the kind of cuts necessary to create Big Plays as we grew accustomed to seeing with Graham, Lewis and of course McCoy before them.

    As for Ibrahim... he also lacks explosiveness but did show improvement in his commitment to running hard against the Navy Defense.

    - As for the Defense, Coordinator Matt House again is guilty of trying to be a little too cute with what he thinks looks good on paper.

    Prior to the game, I posted that the key to stopping the Navy Double Wing was getting "relentless pursuit" from you Middle Backer. But for whatever reason, House had both Gordon and Galambos lining up seven yards off of the line of scrimmage.

    I understand the thinking that having the linebackers line up off the line might allow them to avoid getting blocked. But placing them seven yards backs made it impossible at times for them to cover the ground necessary to be in position to make a play... especially Galambos.

    Maybe House's scheming had something to do with both Gordon and Galambos having sub-par performances... Galambos the worst between them.

    - Finally, to end on a positive... while still coming up short on too many kickoffs Chris BLEWITT again showed why when it's all said and done he could go down as one of the MOST RELIABLE field goal kickers in Pitt history..

    PittofDreams

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  42. Can someone explain to me why this team suddenly shut down a passing attack that was able to light-up the scoreboard while allowing their QB to tie an ACC record for TD passes in a single game?

    Could there possibly be a logical explanation for the switch from that explosive offense to the current run-heavy-pass-rarely one that has struggled to score following the Duke contest that saw Pitt put up 58 points?

    MC

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    1. I attended the game right after Duke ... vs UVa. What I mostly sw was that both CBs were getting saety help for covering the WRs. Yet the QB kept looking and ignored a handful of open TEs on the shorter routes. As a result, Pitt had 2 scoring drives of a total of 37 yards .. and that was it.

      I assume this set some type of standard on how to defend Pitt. The other day for example, I noticed Street open on crossing routes for much of the day ... Savage threw to him a handful of times ... some were completed, others were missed.

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    2. The word is out on Savage. Like this dude said… get safety help on the WR's and get pressure on Savage at-all-cost. He will wilt under the pressure.

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    3. That has been the motto since Tino and Bostick were freshmen. That is why wanny lost leads. Pitt would get a lead and the opponent would then run blitz on every down. Three and outs would follow. Easiest defensive game planning around.

      That is the reason teams went to the spread. Can't put 8 in the box. Very simple solution for Pitt. Get lead and if opponent fills the box, go to a spread. At a minimum, the defense has to waste a timeout or two whilst they scramble.

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  43. It is kind of sad when Wanny and even Todd Graham look good compared to PC. That's all that needs said.

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  44. Wow, I just heard Chryst say at pressor...
    "I need to do a much much better job in coaching".
    Wow

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    1. The first step in fixing a problem is admiting there is one. At least he's not in denial that his coaching is "below the line".

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    2. He's not an idiot. He has to realize that if this team goes into a tailspin and then fans don't show up next year… he's gone. For all practical purposes his coaching career would be over.

      I have a feeling we're going to see a motivated Chryst the rest of the way… dealing w/ his assistants, QB, and recruiting. He may look big and dumb - but he certainly grasps the situation.


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    3. JohnRamella, are you sure about that?

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  45. I think we should have beaten Navy handily, so lots of things need to get fixed. However, I agree with an earlier post about our talent. It is unfortunate, but true, that we aren't a destination program (perhaps in the future, but certainly not now). We don't have enough of the high-level recruits on each side of the ball. A few good skill players are nice, but we need more. Winning will help but w/o several bountiful classes and some luck, I don't see us consistently making BCS bowls or challenging for a title. Coaching taking a beating now, but PC and staff will figure it out and help get us moving forward.

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  46. I watched the team and coaches get on the bus after the game. They acted they won the game.

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  47. what on earth does that even mean!?

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  48. I think that it means that they sure didn't seem too upset that they lost....which is a very bad sign if true.

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    1. Yes it is true, i was there watching. The pitt fans too the lost harder than the players and coaches.

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  49. i understand "what it means" but you or i have no conceivable way of quantifying it. or knowing if that were the case. i completely doubt that the coaches/players were pleased with the results of the game.

    it's a stupid argument to make and is grasping at straws. if they took the loss too difficult, the same fans would say "they don't appear to have any fun and there's too much pressure on them" You guys tailor anything to fit your agenda.

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  50. attended the game on Saturday..first time in Annapolis. wow...all I can say about the game day experience..cadets marching in by company..drum and bugle corps
    beautiful weather...
    positives
    savage statistically had a great game.
    street lots of catches,boyd a td
    defense played well first half
    blewit made several nice kicks in the gusty conditions
    made the two point conversion
    opportunities
    pulled conner from game after the fumble..was this a coaching issue to teach him a lesson on issues that they have been working on in practice or was it just because of the fumble? he is a freshman, if it was solely for the fumble what lesson did he learn not to make mistakes or you will ride the pine?
    defense played off and way to soft in second half. again I am no football expert just a Pitt fan that observes how teams play differently from half to half. Navy exploited that for easy gains in the critical game tying td
    20 yard punt not a good time for that
    savage missed open receivers in end zone on opening drive ..still locks on first receiver and has trouble leading the receivers or hitting them in stride
    receivers dropped several catchable balls ..could have extended drives and possible different outcome.
    winnable game that we lost. Pitt came up against a team that they were far better than but let them hang around and their intensity at the end of the game could not be matched by us. I sat there and told my brother when it was 13-7 it will be a game of who had the most heart..Navy played to win Pitt played not to lose..you cant teach speed as dw said but heart ...you either have it or you don't...I do not apologize for pc for this loss...coaching was not that good...I do not know what changes need to be made but when you share responsibilities in business and things go bad no one accepts the blame. is that what is to be said about our coaches? smarter people than me will make that decision after the season...
    Gary from cleveland

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  51. With November upon us, what's the word on Pitt football recruiting?

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