Thursday, November 21, 2013

Exploding Six Myths of the Pitt Football Program

1. James Conner could move to defensive end-  When Rushel Shell transferred from Pitt, fans and media acted like Jim Brown left the program, yet even though Conner is proving to be better as a freshman people either expect him to move to defense or that he will be immediately passed up by Chris James.  First of all, Conner is not moving anywhere.  Secondly, James is very good and may even have the talent to move past Conner on the depth chart next season. But make no mistake about it, Conner has the talent to be a big time back.  In his freshman season, Shell ended his freshman season with 641 yards, a 4.5 average, and 4 touchdowns. If Conner plays in 12 of Pitt's 13 games (if the Panthers make a bowl), like Shell did last year, he projects to 696 yards, a 4.8 average, and 9 touchdowns.

2.  Pitt doesn't have the same talent as their opponents this season- "They don't have the talent this season to do better than what they've done!" is a common stance taken by many Pitt fans but it just isn't true.  Florida State is the only team on the schedule that has a lot more talent than the Panthers this season. And you have to say that despite a ton of injuries, that Notre Dame has more talent also.  Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech are two teams that some may think have a lot more talent than Pitt but that's just not true.  The Hokies just lost to Duke, Boston College, and Maryland in the last month, and have the No. 101 offense in the country.  Georgia Tech is 6-4 with games against Alabama A&M and Georgia looming, which could make them 7-5 this season. Good, but not exactly excellent. And anybody that saw how bad Pitt was in that game, and still almost won, could tell you that Georgia Tech isn't an excellent team. Duke is having a Cinderella season but let's be honest, they don't have the talent that Pitt has, or at the very least the talent is equal. North Carolina has equal talent, while New Mexico, Virginia, Old Dominion, and Navy have less. Bottom line, against better talent the Panthers are 1-1, against lesser talent they are 3-1, and against teams that have roughly equal talent the Panthers are  1-3.  None of those records are really surprising. Notre Dame and Duke (since it was on the road) were good wins, and road losses at Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech weren't bad losses because they were on the road. Only North Carolina at home and Navy on the road could be considered unnecessary losses. If Pitt won those two very winnable games the Panthers 7-3 this year and the fans are excited about the future.

3.  The Panthers are too young-  Not so fast, my friend.  Of Pitt's 22 starters, 19 are either upperclassmen or were starters last year.  The three exceptions are Tyler Boyd, Artie Rowell, and Adam Bisnowaty. In fact, the team will be even younger next season with eight starters leaving, including Devin Street, Tom Savage, Aaron Donald, K'Waun Williams, and Jason Hendricks. That's a lot of experienced talent leaving meaning the Panthers may be worse before they get better. By the way, by comparison North Carolina had eight underclassmen in their victory over the Panthers, including six on offense. Georgia Tech had seven underclassmen starting. Pitt has five. Bottom line, the players who actually play for Pitt aren't any younger than anybody else.

4. Chad Voytik may not be the starter for long next season- This is a strange one because at the moment there is nobody even close to starting over Voytik next season.  I've heard fans say that Wade Freebeck will be Pitt's future quarterback, maybe even next season. Thankfully Adam Bertke is injured because if he had a big season I'm sure people would have him as a starter next season too. The truth is, Voytik was a better prospect than either coming out of high school, and he's light years ahead with two years of college practice experience under his belt. Both Freebeck and Bertke are at least two years away from having a legit shot at supplanting Voytik because both have a ways to go in their development. In fact, both are considered projects. I'm not saying that either Freebeck or Bertke, or both, couldn't eventually be excellent, and I'm not saying that Voytik will succeed.  But Voytik better succeed because his development, or lack thereof, may determine if Paul Chryst is around for year five.

5.  Pitt is cheap-  I know a lot of Pitt fans believe this one but it's not entirely true.  Do they spend the money that the upper echelon programs spend? No. But they still spend more than most.  Pitt is not a football power because they don't spend the big time money of elite programs like Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, etc. That's the decision that they've made. They've decided to be at the second level of programs and they've spent money at that level. In fact, as far as spending money for the football program, Pitt's expenses are in the top 20 in the country.  All the more reason why not hiring a quality staff under Paul Chryst is perplexing.

6. There is a lack of local talent-  For many decades the WPIAL was considered one of the best hotbeds in the country for college football prospects.  Is it as good now? No.  But it's still pretty good.  Maybe one of the biggest misconceptions of Pitt recruiting is that the Panthers loaded up on WPIAL talent in their glory days. The truth is, they signed roughly eight or so WPIAL prospects a year, the same as now.  The difference is, that Pitt no longer gets the best ones.  If the Panthers got just six this season and got Dravon Henry, Alex Bookser, Shai McKenzie, Montae Nicholson, Chase Winovich, and Malik Hooker, then that's quite a haul. Last year it would have been Robert Foster, Dorian Johnson, Tyler Boyd, Patrick Kugler, and Scott Orndoff. Future WPIAL stars include Sterling Jenkins, Jordan Whitehead, Kareen Gibson, Jeremiah Jones, Miles Sanders, Kaezon Pugh, and Aaron Williams.  The point is, if you get the top half a dozen WPIAL prospects like Pitt did in the past, there's still plenty of talent to be a top 25 team in most years.




62 comments:

  1. Two questions:

    1. If Pitt is in the top-20 in spending for football, and I'm not refuting that, where is the money going, if not to hire a quality staff? Last I've seen, they spend about half of what PSU spends on recruiting, so my guess is that excess isn't spent there either.

    2. Pitt never got ALL of the the elite WPIAL prospects, even in the late 70's. But they did get and relied upon most of them for future success. Could it be that there just aren't as many elite prospects, so that missing just two or three a year (compounded over four years) leads to a significant drop in talent?

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    1. Pitt got almost all of the top WPIAL prospects in the 70s and early 80s. You can't name many they didn't get, even to PSU.

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    2. I agree with aapm74, there is no way Pitt is top-20 in the country in spending. Do you have proof of this Chris? Where is the money being allocated? Recruiting trips to Hawaii? If they were spending like you said, we would have a decent D-coordinator, not some cheap secondary coach or whatever he was.

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  2. Great points. How about number 7: There OL is so bad, it's a wonder that they win any games against decent opponents.

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    1. Yeah.
      I remember Chris' line after the Georgia Tech game where he said Pitt's skill players are good enough to win a lot of games, but they can't overcome the line.

      Last time the OL played well was in 2009.

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  3. 1. Shell was competing with Graham for touches, Conner is competing with Bennett. That's a totally different situation. I'm not saying Conner won't be special, but it's not fair to compare the two guys. Shell was better by a mile.

    2. It's hard to argue the talent point, but Pitt's recruiting classes have taken a big hit with all the coaching changes. A lot of talented guys left the program and either weren't replaced or were with lower quality guys.

    3. Looking only at the listed starters doesn't capture the full picture. There are more freshmen on the two-deep than seniors. 16 by last count, more than any other class. Heck, Conner, the guy you start the list off with isn't a "starter" but plays a ton.

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    1. What does Shell competing with Graham have to do with anything? The kid had one 100 yard game and people act like he's some kind of superstar.

      As for your second comment Pitt has 14 freshman in the two deep and UNC has 13. It hasn't seemed to stop the Tar Heels from getting better this season or beating Pitt on the road.

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    2. My point with Graham is that if Shell as a freshmen was competing for touches against Bennett and Conner he would've been named the starter and taken nearly all the snaps. Intead of splitting them the way Conner and Bennett do, becase neither has done enough to actually be "the guy."

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    3. I just wish Conner could break long runs like mccoy and graham could. Only thing that keeps him from being a great back.

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  4. Dont care if you let this through or not, but i really couldnt stand you for a while, but I admit, you post some damn good content on here.

    Thank you for the work and professionalism

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  5. Connor looks like a better, more complete back than Shell. Both could move a pile but Connor has better speed, hands and balance. All that said, if Shell wasn't such a knucklehead, he would have been an asset this year.

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  6. Anonymous: 3:26

    "Shell was better by a mile"? I don't think so.

    In what way? Pure talent?....maybe - just maybe.
    Speed? Probably but, Shell was certainly no burner.

    Work ethic, drive, fighting for that extra yard - Conner clearly has a huge edge.

    I 'would' probably take Shell over Conner from a pure talent aspect but all the intangibles - team player etc, etc etc, I'd take Conner...by a mile.

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    1. Conner is not only bigger than Shell but he's faster too.

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    2. What is the measure of "talent"? What makes one player more talented than another? Simple answer - How you perform ON THE FIELD. It's not how many stars you have. In the case of Shell (4 star) vs Conner (2 star). Stars is just a measure of potential. Conner has proven it on the field. Maybe some day Shell will. But right now, after watching both players, Conner is better and it ain't even close.

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  7. What a novel idea. Backing your opinion with statistics and facts.
    Does that calculation of spending in football includes the scholarship cost of room, board and tuition. Therefore, Pitt could be high due to higher tuition than other schools.
    Money is not the issue for who was hired as assistant coaches. There is ample budget for that. That is all on Chryst.
    And it should be a lot easier to recruit and land elite prospects from the wpial/PA versus out of state. But there are fewer "elite" prospects in wpial as you stated and Pitt "HAS" to land them.
    Next year, football will be struggling for wins due to 2011 and 2012 recruiting class or lack thereof.

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    1. With next season's non-conference schedule, Pitt should win 8 games by default. The O and the secondary will be pretty good. I think Voytik will do OK.

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    2. LOL. That is optimistic.
      It is clear Chryst is giving "his" recruits playing time this year to prepare them for next year. I hope your right.

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    3. Agree on the non-con schedule being favorable. Iowa will be our tougest game. And non FSU or Clemson in the ACC schedule is definitely a plus.

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    4. @Anon 10:29, and why shouldn't Chryst give "his" guys the chance? It's his ass on the line when things go wrong, its his program, his system, and his reputation. If he knows Pitt is mediocre no matter who he plays and he thinks a guy he brought in gives us an equal chance to win now and a better one later, why not use him?

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  8. By the way, I should say that Shell can definitely be a very good college player. My point is that Conner proved this year that he can at least be every bit as good.

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  9. it is not the players that have let us down it is the poor coaching

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    1. Coaching and having players go hand in hand. It’s not one or the other.

      Between 2000-2003 did Joe Paterno get stupid? No.

      What about Johnny Majors II? Did he forget about how to coach football? No. Amazing what a Tony Dorsett can do for your career.

      What about Tom Landry between 1986 and 1988? Did he get a bad case of dumb?

      In Bill Belichick's first 5 years of coaching (1991-1995, 2000) his coaching record was 35-45. Then Drew Bledsoe got hurt and Tom Brady replaced him... The rest is history...All of a sudden he's a genius.... Amazing what Tom Brady can do...

      What about Chuck Noll? Did he get stupid when his HOF players retired? No.

      In Bill Walsh's first two years of coaching, he was 8-24. Then he starts Joe Montana... No Joe Montana, no Super Bowls.

      At one point or another in their careers, they didn't have the players. It works both ways...

      BTW, I heard in 2011 how Todd Graham was a dummy and made his rep from his Offensive Coordinators. Now he has the right players for his system, and he ain't stupid no more!

      I've heard how bad Harris was, what a dummy DW was, How all of a sudden Chryst can't coach an offense. You want to know who I think was the worse Pitt coaches in my lifetime? Mike Gottfried and Foge Fazio. They had FIRST ROUND talent and couldn't win at a high level. Now that's bad coaching.

      "The team with the most talent usually wins." - John Wooden

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    2. It's both. Pitt has been mired in mediocrity for 30 some years. There's a lot of blame to go around.

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    3. You disproved your own statement. The fact that Harris did better than Fazio with less talent means coaching matters a lot.

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    4. I never knew that quote from John Wooden.
      I'll have to use it sometime. Thanks.

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    5. Chris,

      It takes BOTH. That's my point. Did Harris get stupid when he went To Stanford? Harris had a lot of good players, Palko,Fitzgerald, Hayes, Rutherford, Cox, Morgan, Bryant,
      Ferguson, Gill, Spencer, Polite, etc

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  10. In the 80's, Pitt got talent from the south. Need to follow that pattern for success now given the conference footprint. Pitt needs to think as themselves as an Eastern seaboard school and not this tri state mentality.

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  11. Concerning the money issue .. I know Dixon is paid well (and should be) but not so sure about the FB program. Here is what I know:
    - Wannstedt and staff was at or near the bottom of coaching salaries in the BE .. (that's the BE, not the ACC)
    - When WVU brought in Holgerson, he was going to get approx $2m annually to be HC. At the same time, Heyward was getting paid approx $1.4. (now Graham was paid $2m when he came to Pitt, but that was under special circumstances where he had all the leverage)
    - Pitt now probably has the most under-qualified FB staff in the BCS. (Don't know if it's because of a low budget or if PC just doesn't wnat to go out of his comfort zone.)

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    1. I think this is mostly Chryst's decision on his staff. Although I think other than House we've got some good assistants. I doubt we ended up with House because of money though, look where the other DC finalists went, Utah State etc. No way those programs offered more money. Chryst just didn't hire them.

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    2. Other than House? Add Beckerfield and Haering to the list.
      Palermo is both Dline and LB at the moment.
      No ST coach.
      A RB coach that is not coaching by now full time recruiting coordinator so we are down a coach.
      GA Poteat to coach the DBs with House.
      I'm sorry, the coaching staff is a cluster F.

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    3. I don't disagree that the coaching staff has massive holes, I just don't think it's from the budget. I think Palermo, Beckerfield, and Haering have been ok. We use the RB coach as Recruiting Coordinator because Chryst chooses to. We have no Special Teams Coordinator because Chryst chooses not to. I'm even a fan of Chryst, but these decisions are all on him. And they are mistakes. It's not the budget.

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  12. It's completely frustrating watching Pitt fumble around the recruiting trail. With Louisville moving to the ACC next year, and holding a strangehold on Florida, Pitt will likely find itself in the same position next year. Unlike most ACC schools, Pitt doesn't quite understand that speed is needed in order to be successful in the ACC. We are seeing it right now with his OL recruits being too slow to contain the speedy outside rushers. Not only that, Pitt doesn't have the staff to maintain contacts with a lot of these kids. No ST coach, no recruiting coordinator. I'll be when we are sitting here on national LOI day Pitt will have missed out on a TON of local talent. You might even see guys like James and Maddox drop their verbals last minute.


    On a side note, what's going on what Challingsworth and Weah?

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    1. There is a recruiting coordinator, the RB coach is RC fulltime.
      Chryst Big10 philosophy was he wanted Olineman "FAT". So, he fatten them up. Biz was eating 6 meals a day to gain weight. He was fast/quick/strong for his size coming out of HS.
      Challingsworth was only 165# in HS and he is RS to gain weight and strength. Weah is RS because they don't need him with Street and Boyd.

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    2. This is dramatically over simplified. We run a pro-style offense, in which, the offensive line plays a larger role than in spread systems. O-lineman take the longest to develop, and it's very hard to predict who will be good and who won't. That's why coaches are moving to a system that doesn't require the time and committment that the pro-style does. Judge O-lineman by what they are as juniors and seniors. Until PC has his chosen lineman at the junior and senior level we don't know anything.

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    3. Anonymous 10:41: That is such a Pitt apologist response. Frankly, one I've been hearing non-stop since I can remember. How about seeing tangible results now. How about some sort of improvement. It's looking more and more like Pitt will either finish with the same record as last year or worse. When will it be enough? He's had two recruiting classes to make improvements. Pitts has regressed, Holtz has regressed. How long of a leash does he get?

      I'm tired of waiting until next year. In addition, Pitt might be worse next year. We have no idea if Voytick will be a good QB. Remember Pat Bostick? He was a four-star QB coming out of HS too. Voytick was recruited by Graham don't forget under the assumption that we would be playing the spread offense. How will he fair in the pro-style offense? I want results or at least incremental improvement.

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    4. Both Weah and Challingworth are known for their speed and, as such, may become good assets. In fact, Weah won state titles in the speed events this past year.

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    5. Chryst hasn't had 2 recruting classes, he's had one. And this year's freshmen are producing. You can complain about Pitt being mediocre for years, and you're right. But what past Pitt coaches did or didn't do has no bearing whatsoever on Chryst or his staff or this team. None. You do have to wait until next year, and probaly the year after before we get decent line play. Lineman take time. We have no idea what Voytik will be, so speculating isn't worth our time. Though, I should note, he was a pro-style QB coming out of HS not a spread QB despite being recruited by Graham. http://sports.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Chad-Voytik-106437/print

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    6. TB - what I want to see this year from Chryst is this:

      McKenzie
      Bookser
      Henry
      Nicholson

      Then, we WILL see improvement.

      If he can't get at least 3 of these 4, then he and his staff just cannot recruit well at all.

      I'm certainly willing to give the guy more time but, he HAS to get the players in here.

      I have confidence in Voytik - somehow, I see leadership and balls w/ him. Saw him play at the Elite 11 and liked him a lot - reminds me very much of Tyler Palko.

      I've been faithly following our Panthers since 1967 and it STILL kills me when they lose and are constantly going through this mediocrity.

      I hated the Chryst hire but at the time, we were radioactive. I'm beginning to like him a little more now for whatever reason.

      Just get bowl eligible for the extra practices alone and get these 4 recruits and then I think we have a chance.

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    7. It's baloney to keep saying the staff needs time based on the linemen needing to be juniors and seniors until we can judge. This staff lost to Navy, NC, GTech and VTech: all about the same level as Pitt in talent, or in Navy's case, below. This staff makes bone-headed coaching decisions weekly it seems. It shows me if talent was in place, the same bad coaching decisions will still be there. If Chryst had five of his linemen for 4th and 1 last week, and if all were fifth-year players there is still a great chance the play blows up because it was a horrendous play call. Sorry, I'm not waiting two more years to judge. The honeymoon is officially over when the gun sounds after the Miami game.

      This staff can impress the hell out of me and win these final two games.

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    8. "he's had two recruiting classes to make inmprovements"

      While I don't know whether or not Chryst will be a success or not, to make the above statement is asinine. The said players are sophomores, redshirt freshmen, or freshmen. To think those players at that state of their careers are going to turn Pitt suddenly to a 10 win team is nuts.

      Again, I'm not 100% sold either at this point, but unless it becomes brutally apparent that he's not going to get the job done, Chryst is going to get 4-5 years to get his players in place and fully developed.

      BTW, trying to compare Pitt's (potential) record this year to last year's is pointless, due to the conference change. The difficulty of the schedule has increased (per Sargarin, Pitt's schedule is #28 this year; last year #57)

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    9. Ok, so comparing this year to last year wasn't completely fair and I get that. However, the only tangible improvement we've seen is from the QB play. If we still had Sunseri slinging the ball we wouldn't be 5-5 right now. That said, we haven't any vast improvement in any other facet of the game. In fact, the defense has regressed in many ways other than Donald.

      Right now, Pitt is behind PSU and WVU on the recruiting trail. That's pathetic. I don't care if these guys are nice and genuine. You need to get these players on campus. It's not a coincidence that Alabama, LSU, Oregon are in the top five every year. They clearly have the most talent. If Stanford has the ability to be a top 5 team so can Pitt.

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    10. @ZM - I don't think McKenzie is very likely to come now, do you? With Chris James and Ollison is there even room for another RB, especially one coming off an injury? I'd say we need to land the other three, Dudley-Gordon (if he can get his grades in shape) and Jennings or Kamara (who seems to be head to Wisco).

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    11. @TB for what it's worth, Rivlas has PSU at 31, Pitt at 37, and WVU at 47 in terms of rankings. So we're not far behind. Wouldn't be surprised to pass PSU by the end of the year. We're ahead of WVU in every one of the class rankings right now, btw.

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    12. Anon 4:30 - There's definitely room for McKenzie. Even if Conner is a big-time back, that's only 1 on their roster. The rest aren't looking to good as they can't get on the field.

      I think PC is doing a good job improving Pitt's depth but they still have lot's of opportunity for kids to play and play early.

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    13. Chris James is a potential big time back too. He's pretty good.

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    14. Agree James has the potential. But VT also has 2 RB recruits and their current leading rusher is a freshman as well. I'm sure there's a number of reasons that could push him to one school vs. the other, but it seems like it's still a pick'em from a depth chart stand point.

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  13. Chris,

    It was always obvious that James Conner was going to be carrying the football and not playing Defense. This was my take the moment I saw his H.S. Highlight Reel when he committed to Pitt.

    In fact, months before training camp ever began... I posted that Conner was destined to be a Power Back that would make Rushel Shell a distant memory.

    Conner is ATHLETIC for a Big Back who runs with EXPLOSIVENESS. Starting with North Carolina last week, he's now figured out how much more effective he can be GETTING LOW and RUNNING DOWNHILL once he gets to the second level.

    James' BEST is yet to come... and believe we'll some of it tomorrow against 'Cuse.

    PittofDreams

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  14. To point 2, 247 has the current class at #37, ESPN #41, and Rivals and Scout #42 and in the ACC we're between 7th and 9th. Even if there isn't talent gap we'd better pick it up a bit or there will be soon.

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  15. Travis
    If you think the ACC has more speed than the Big 10, you are clueless. Maybe Florida State. PC ran the same offense in the Big Ten successfully.
    Biz and Johnson are freshman seeing their first college action this year. It takes time to develop lineman.

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    1. You watch Clemson? You watch Miami yet?

      I'm still waiting for evidential proof that Pitt is in top 20 speeding for football. Hell, I could name 20 schools off the top of my head who probably spend more money than Pitt.

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    2. Anonymous at 3:43, what games have you've been watching? By and large, except for OSU, there are a half dozen teams in the ACC with more team speed than any team in the B10

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  16. I know many want Pitt to get FL kids but I think it's more important for them to focus on getting PA, OH, and other local kids as they're more likely to go to Pitt consistently.

    For example, OSU and MI. Two programs I'm guessing most would consider big-time have very few FL kids on their rosters. OSU-5, MI-3. Heck, even Alabama only has 9 FL players on their team.

    There's plenty of local talent to fill the roster and while Pitt won't get them all, they should be able to get their fare share.

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  17. I disagree with #2. The o-line is atrocious, The d-line even w Donald is nonexistent. QB play is lackluster. It's a recurring theme. How could anybody say we get equivocal talent at the most important positions of line and qb? We get an occasional interesting wr or rb, so what without the rest of the pieces. Never win consistently with bad lines.

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  18. Their opponents have weaknesses just as large. You just don't realize it because you don't follow them like you do Pitt.

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  19. Excellent summary Chris. Fans (of all schools) tend to get too high or too low after each game. As I said a few days ago, Pitt is mediocre this year. And their program is mediocre. Not good, not awful, just mediocre. They have had a decent chance to win every game this year but one. Not many ACC teams can say that.

    Can you clarify your #4 comment? The heading says Voytik may not be the starter for long next season. But then you say he's light years ahead of the other kids, and Freebeck and Bertke are at least two years away. I'm confused.

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  20. Pitt is cheap Chris. Do the Panthers travel by charter or commercial or the hybrid? Do the Panther athletes all have Jacuzzi tubs in their rooms? Do the player's have dedicated physician's for them only? And dedicated physical therapist's? When they have these things, they can be competitive in recruiting. When the high school juniors and seniors head out for recruiting trips, that is what they see at OSU, PSU, Michigan. Those programs pluck the local best talent because they invest in the kids as much as they can. They put the money up front and reap rewards on the back.

    The same with the coaching staff. Look, Pitt pays the AD top 20 money but they do not get top 20 results....in any sport. This would never be acceptable in the private sector, so why is it acceptable with taxpayer money. Pitt should be able to attract really good coaches. Other teams hire the big name player alumni to work at their respective universities on a consultative basis and pay them well. When a recruit is visiting, it is perfectly acceptable for an employee to introduce themselves as an employee with a brief story that if you come here, you will always be a Panther and will be taken care of! We don't do this with our stars. We do it with the Bostick's. Not knocking Pat Bostick, just progressing the theory.

    Better Athletes. Pitt has its fine share of athletes, but no depth. For those that play the stars game, Pitt doesn't replace a 4 star with a 4 star should injury occur. Pitt replaces a 4 star with a 2 star. Depth is a problem for Pitt as it is with 80% of the FBS teams. The difference is finding and exploiting the weakest link in a defense or an offense of an opponent. This should not be difficult. The coaches should be putting in 14 hour days with tape review and coaching. The head coach should do the same.

    Pitt is positioned to do well with Chryst. This is his first full recruiting class and as everyone knows, recruiting success comes from establishing long term relationships with players, families and high school coaches. That takes time. Remember when Rutgers wanted to recruit Florida, James Gandolfino (may he rest in peace), was on billboards all over Miami pumping Rutgers. Rutgers got florida recruits because there was a linkage established, not because they had dedicated florida recruiters. Pitt should be doing this as well if they want to spend wisely.

    Pitt should beat Syracuse tomorrow. Syracuse will load the box with run blitzes. Simple dissection by the Pitt offense. Just execute.

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    1. All of those things you mention in your first paragraph are things that the top 20 programs do. Like I said, Pitt doesn't pay that way but neither does all but about 20 programs.

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    2. For what it's worth, neither SP nor any part of the Atheletics budget is "tax payer" money. The ADept is entirely selffunded.

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  21. Which schools are in the "second level" of spending comparable to Pitt?

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  22. I'm wondering if bringing in more money in the ACC is going to convince Pitt to open up the purse string a little more.

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  23. Chris:

    Other than the things that talent evalu8r lists in his first paragraph, what things would Pitt need to invest in (or spend more on) to be rank with the best programs in college football?

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