Wednesday, January 1, 2014

Bill O'Brien leaving Penn State may affect Pitt

On Penn State's 247 Sports site one of their writers asked current Penn State commits their feelings about Bill O'Brien leaving to take the Houston Texans job.  Three of those that committed were kids that Pitt offered and wanted very much.  OT/DE Noah Beh from Scranton said that he was mad and wanted to wait to see what happens.  CB Troy Vincent said he wanted to take other visits but the staff didn't want him to. He feels betrayed because he listened to them. Vincent would probably be a long shot for the Panthers but you never know.  Safety Marcus Allen, who is Curtis Martin's godson, said O'Brien flat out lied to him and that a ton of schools have already reached out to him.  Pitt would obviously be one, and they have a big opening at safety after missing out on Montae Nicholson. 

I don't know if any of these kids will de-commit, or if they will go to Pitt if they did, but I'm sure that Pitt has or will contact at least these three and maybe more.  

31 comments:

  1. Pitt should go hire Larry Johnson as D-Linecoach.
    Make Palermo LB coach and get rid of Beckerfield and Haering.

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  2. What about the DT from NY(?). The one who said that he had asked Bo'B via twitter on Sat, and Bo'B definitely said "No, I staying". Any possibilities of Pitt reaching out to him?

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  3. Great article on why O'Brien left. (The Paterno loyalist drove him away)

    http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/01/bill_obrien_the_outsider_arriv.html

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    1. Yeah....he wrote about this before and warned the old guard last May...

      http://blog.pennlive.com/davidjones/2013/05/penn_state_bill_obrien_joebots.html

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  4. I fully understand why Mike Munchak or Greg Schiano would want (actually need) the job. Franklin is another matter. The situation in Happy Valley is too shaky without knowing who the President and AD are going to be.

    As for the recruits, would love to see us get a few for the D.

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    1. Munchak hasn't been fired yet and showed no interest in the job at PSU last year. No way he leaves an NFL job for that nuthouse in Unhappy Valley...

      Vandy will throw a ton on $ at Franklin to stay. He can be a JoePa at Vandy by staying or come to PSU and be under the thumb of the Joebots at PSU.

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  5. Since they would all have to sit out a year per the transfer rule, we might be in luck w/ these freshmen in that they could come to Pitt (IF they were considering us in the 1st place) - be on the practice squad...basically redshirting and then have 4 years of eligibility remaining.

    I "think" that's the way it works but I may be wrong.

    Anyway, the question would be - did they choose Penn St. because of O'Brien - the game day atmosphere or maybe the quaint little town of Crappy Valley.

    If it's O'Brien then based on who's ahead of them on the Pitt roster, would likely determine if they would consider a transfer to our Panthers.

    I would thin that Allen would be the most hopeful being Martin's godson.

    The new article today in Pennlive opened my eyes on O'Brien's intentions. I really hope they get Schiano - I think he's a crap coach...chop chop my ass and would drag them down even further - YAY!

    They want Munchak but, he may not want to walk in to that hornet's nest.

    I hate to say it (actually I don't) but, I'm loving this PSU meltdown - they deserved the sanctions and probably deserved the death penalty.

    All I want is for this to benefit Pitt in any way possible and with BOB leaving, it has to be good for us.

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    1. None of them would have to sit since they are just commits, and haven't signed their LOIs yet, which begins on the 1st week of Feb

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    2. That's right Anonymous 1:37PM - Thanks. - I'm trying to be stupid.

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    3. I'll be surprised if we get any of these guys. Don't be shocked if the majority of commits stay no matter who is the coach. It's Pedo State.....

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  6. Chris,

    Timely stuff. Keep us posted.

    PittofDreams

    By the way, Happy New Year

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  7. I completely understand the logic behind O'Brien leaving Penn State. His status may NEVER be higher after doing a phenominal job in a no-win situation at Pitt. PSU couldn't have asked for better results under the circumstances. Many people thought when the sanctions were dished out that PSU wouldn't be competitive for at least a decade. They weathered the storm and were able to bring in two top 25 recruiting classes DESPITE no prospect of playing a bowl game. Any Pitt fan will tell you they would take O'Brien over Chryst any day. That being said, I think the coaching change will bode well for Pitt in the future. Pitt/PSU is looming in two years, but the way it was going Pitt was going to get embarrassed. They still might depending on who wants to coach at PSU. I think they will get another solid candidate because of potential Heisman candidate at quarterback. Pitt needs to get back on the horn recruiting these guys. I thought it was pretty sad when the sanctions were handed out allowing the players to transfer without penalty and none of them went to Pitt. That shows Pitt's selling ability. It just doesn't have the aurora of these other schools. We need a recruiter that can sell a ketchup Popsicle to a woman in white gloves!

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  8. Any of the 3 would be great gets for PSU ... and much needed since they are defensive players. Trouble is they, along with Holley, will be pursued by a lot more than just Pitt .... and we all know how 'recruit-challenged' the Pitt defensive coaches seem t be right now.

    The biggest get Pitt can get from this situation would be long time DL coach Larry Johnson who I would promise a DC if I were PC, but we know that's not going to happen.

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  9. Pedo State losing their coach? Welcome to college football, finally.

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  10. Odds are unlikely that we get anyone, but Beh and Vincent are very interesting. I am also intrigued by Reeder with his connection to O'Neill.

    College football recruiting is a dirty, dirty business. O'Brien did some good for PSU, but any time coached leave of their own choosing there are young men who get hurt in the process, and feel lied to.

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  11. I can see the delusion and desperation in PSU fans already. "Charlie Strong is coming to psu even if texas offers" PSU should be looking at Franklin from Vanderbilt". Those guys aren't leaving. I hope they get greg schiano.

    Pitt has missed out on some skill players this recruiting season, but the future of our online looks unbelievably good. .

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  12. Pitt stopped recruiting Holley a long time ago. No chance there.

    I'd love to land Beh and Allen. BTW, what's the deal with Bryan Murphy?

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  13. I am surprised no one is talking about Apke from Mt Lebo. Any thoughts of him switching

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  14. I just hope the coaches are still recruiting and not already on vacation. I thought it was interesting immediately following the bowl game, PC was interviewed and he was asked, what is next for the Pitt football team, first thing he mentioned was "vacation". Not exactly the answer you wanted to hear. I would be willing to bet PC gets in all of his vacation time during the year.

    As far as the PSU situation goes, I seriously doubt we get any of their verbals. PC is not exactly Johnny on the spot, he is a slow mover, by the time he makes a decision, other coaches have already swooped in and got their foot in the door. I saw on ESPN, Vandy and Florida have already contacted the two 4 star WR's. Meanwhile, we didn't even offer either player during the year. Even though one of them is the number one player in his state and current teammate of one of our current verbals. That is odd.

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  15. Chris, would Penn State ever consider hiring Larry Johnson their long time assistant & excellent recruiter? Would make sense to me. Is he even a consideration?

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  16. Realize I may be alone here, but was never really impressed with O’Brien.

    In fact, as much as I hate to say it… Penn State will be better off in the long run if they land the right guy.

    Believe O’Brien got lucky with the talent that he inherited and the coaches left over from Paterno.

    Freshmen Quarterback Hackenberg was a godsend.

    Even so, they still got trounced by Minnesota and lost to Nebraska at HOME.

    Although he’s better suited for the NFL, do not see O’Brien succeeding at Houston.

    Eventual disappointment at the college level was more of a certainty. But I guess we may never know.

    PittofDreams

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    1. O'Brien did a hellava job in the face of sanctions, transfers, lawsuits, trustee turmoil, etc.
      Perhaps you forgot of all the players that transferred out before his 1st year.
      Perhaps you forgot his 2 recruiting classes that were spectacular. Right now, the class is ranked #20 by Rivals and Pitt is at 40.

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    2. No, I agree with you.

      He inherited 33 seniors from a team that went 9-3, and then proceeded to go 8-4.
      Not sure how that is "coach of the year".
      Don't give me the sanction line; the full effect of those hadn't remotely kicked in at year 1. And, Michael Mauti and the other seniors were able to use that as "us against the world" every week.

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  17. PSU's greatest strength (Their alumni loyal to JoePa) is also their biggest weakness. They will not let the football program flounder, but they will be the stumbling block to them moving forward. I don't care what the president said today, the alumni and BOT's will let their voices be heard. So the committee will try and appease everyone by looking for a coach with ties to the school but not necessarily an alumnus. Someone who understands the culture, but strong enough to push the program forward. Someone they can bring on board quickly as well. In the end, they will hire Greg Schiano. They will shoot themselves in the foot.

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  18. Why was Larry Johnson retained when Bradley was given the boot. Didn't they both work with Sandusky?

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    1. Neither was charged with any crime whatsoever, they can retain whoever they want.

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    2. I am aware that neither was charged but seems like Bradley has been shunned in the coaching world. He was a really good DC.

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  19. Wonder if there is any chance Bostad makes his way back to Pitt or will he wait and follow Schiano?

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  20. I generally don't like to revel in the misery of others, but it's hard to feel sorry for some of the PSU fanbase. I'm guessing it's a small minority, but some of the comments about O'Brien, or those trying to be objective about the whole situation, are pretty troubling.

    It seems some will never be able to move forward, and put the Paterno era behind them. To me, he was as we all are, a flawed person, who made a tragic error in judgment that will forever leave a negative mark on his legacy. He did many good things, but turned a blind eye that allowed horrific and criminal acts to continue.

    Why can't some of the PSU folks come to terms with that? Based on some fo the comments, maybe it would've been better to shut the program down for a while. It seems some of the JoeBots were a big reason for his departure.

    O'Brien's main contribution was to stabilize a program that was mired in the worst sports scandal ever. He brought in a couple good recruiting classes, and had a respectable winning percentage (.625).

    My understanding is that he was open about his desire to return to the NFL. While he left sooner rather later, which I'm sure is part of the anger directed towards him, he left the program in pretty good shape for the next coach.

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  21. Chris please go record and list the 5 coaches pitt fans should not want PSU to hire that are mainly in play.

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  22. The key to landing the big fish recruits is to role into the hood in a plush SUV and then procede to lie to the kid and the parents. Offer them the moon and they'll sign on the dotted line.

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