Wednesday, February 19, 2014

Panthers name a new wide receiver coach

The Panthers have named former NFL wide receiver Greg Lewis as their new wide receivers coach. The 34-year old Lewis is a native of Chicago and played at Illinois where he was a walk on.  He then played eight seasons in the NFL, mostly with the Philadelphia Eagles.  He's probably best known for the pass and catch that he had with Brett Favre when they played for Minnesota in 2009.  That won him an ESPY Award.

As a coach Lewis has only two years experience. In 2012 he coached for San Diego and this past season he coached for San Jose State. Star wide receiver Chandler Jones had 691 yards receiving before Lewis arrived, then 1,356 yards with Lewis.

52 comments:

  1. Meh. that is the about the extent of my comment, Meh.

    When the thing you are most known for is the pass and catch that he had with Brett Favre when they played for Minnesota in 2009, well there just is not a lot to say

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  2. This seems like a similar hire as bobby engram. Young guy who played on the big stage. No reason to think he won't be able to recruit. He might have ties in philly and jersey after playing in philly for so long. First job is to call up juwaun Johnson.

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  3. 2 years coaching experience with 8 years NFL ... he not only will have some knowledge of the WR position, he will have some street cred

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  4. And to clarify for those who may not understand this

    Basically there is nothing to get excited about regarding this hire, nor there is nothing to get upset about regarding this hire, so Meh

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    1. Have to agree. I certainly don't hate it. Can't compare to Bobby Engram though. Engram was a heralded player in college, and a top 60 NFL pick. Lewis walked on a Illinois and went undrafted. Perhaps his ability to stick for eight NFL seasons will do him well.

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  5. pittmaverick13, FWIW, Lewis actually has more coaching experience than Engram did when he was hired at Pitt

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  6. My only question is, can he recruit??
    Only 2 yrs as college coach but in California. Although, he went to Illinois and grew up in Illinois.
    I know, the same could have been said about Bobby Engram, however, everyone in the tri-state remembers Engram from his PSU days.

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  7. Weak analysis As usual Mav.... Is the staff better overall now than at the end of the season? Yes.

    Lewis sounds like another Engram. He's played in the NFL, he's had a couple of years of coaching experience. He's young. As for recruiting, we don't know at this point. However, he may turn out to be a great recruiter.

    Did you want Pitt to pay top dollar for a WR coach? Lighten up Francis.

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    1. We are not talking about the staff overall, we are talking about this hire - and for this hire, MEH. Engram had much better name recognition and NFL pedigree for connecting with recruits. So I don't see how anyone can say at this point this is an upgrade.

      I don't know why you cheerleaders always want to ignore the facts or get upset when someone is not jumping up and down saying this was a great hire. As I noted, right now there is nothing to get excited about regarding this hire, nor there is nothing to get upset about regarding this hire.

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    2. Recruits probably know Lewis more than Engram. Lewis was just in the NFL recently. I think Lewis will have a lot of street creed with recruits. But that's just part of it. He has to known how to coach and recruit, too, and we haven't seen him do either. He could be a real star for all we know.

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    3. Chris, well Engram played in the NFL from 1996 - 2009 (he was with the Browns in 2010 but cut after preseason). Lewis played from 2003-2010 so they both finished up essentially around the same time but Engram had the longer and more distinguished career and better overall name recognition.

      As to the coaching aspect, I agree with you - hence my MEH comment. Lewis could turn out to be good or he could turn out to be a bust, time will tell so no reason to get excited or upset IMO

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    4. I think you're putting to much emphasis on the NFL angle. That's nice and all, but it all comes down to coaching and recruiting. There's been many excellent WR coaches over the years that didn't play in the NFL. Recruits will respect Lewis just as much as Engram when it comes to what he's accomplished, but the real work happens on the field and in living rooms.

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    5. Chris, no I am referring to your comment that recruits probably know Lewis more than Engram. Sorry, I don't think the facts support that. Why would they? They both ended their NFL careers around the same time, but Engram was much more highly accomplished while Lewis was basically an NFL backup. So it terms of street cred, Engram as a former 3x all american, Bilitnekof winner, 14 year NFL career and over 7,700 career receiving yards has it in spades over Lewis who averaged less than 20 catches and 250 yards a season.

      But again, on the coaching aspect, I do not disagree with you

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    6. These kids had no idea who Engram was until they were told. I know because I asked them the over the last few years. Engram won the Biletnikoff before they were born and they were 9 when he had his last big season. They had no clue who he was. Actually, a few more knew of Lewis than I even suspected because of his catch from Favre. That happened when they were 12. I know Adonis Jennings specifically was excited about Lewis because he was worried about Engram leaving.

      What I'm saying is that all they care about is that you played in the NFL because that's where they want to be and they think you know how to get there. They don't care that Engram had a better career. Having an NFL career is all they care about.

      It's like meeting a pretty girl at the bar. Her being pretty gets her noticed, but if you went up to her and she has no personality then all of a sudden she doesn't look so good. Being in the NFL is all it takes to get the attention of these kids, but once you get that attention you better deliver. Engram did. Now we'll see if Lewis does.

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    7. Chris, thanks - that is surprising to hear about the name recognition - maybe I am showing my age and these young players have no sense of history.

      I do agree with you that they care whether you have played in the NFL. My thinking has been what you did while there is also important (for example were you Heinz Ward or Limas Sweed). Maybe that isn't the case based on the guys you have spoken with and it is simply a matter of being able to say you played in the NFL. Doesn't seem logical to me but who knows what is in the minds of 17 and 18 year old kids

      In any case, hopefully Lewis can deliver like Engram did

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  8. Nobody knows how good of a coach or a recruiter he will be but he's young with NFL experience so that's a good start. He may prove to be bad or he may make Bobby Engram look bad. Time will tell.

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    1. Spot on Chris. Let's wait and see. None of us know at this point. THAT'S REALITY. Every good coach starts somewhere.

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  9. I think it has the potential to be a very good hire especially with two highly regarded WR in our stable. Boyd is going to do what he does as long as we have someone to get it to him, and Jennings looks to be a solid prospect. I have absolutely no credibility, but I'd imagine a WR coach's job is to teach the nuances of the position. These players already know how to catch, and you can't teach athleticism. I think our biggest concern at the moment is how quickly can he forge a relationship with these men.

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  10. Unless you know Lewis personally or someone who does, how in the world could you criticize this hire?

    What we know about Lewis is that he was a QUALITY NFL Receiver, a PRETTY FAST one at that. Having been a Walk-On who made it to start in the NFL, he is also likely to be a bit of an OVER-ACHIEVER.

    And for all we know, he might have the kind of Personality to go with the NFL Resume that will work well out on the Recruiting Circuit.

    With Douglas, Settle and now Lewis... this Staff is MUCH IMPROVED over last year... and that has potential of resulting in a Team MUCH IMPROVED over last year.

    PittofDreams

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    1. Is that kind of like 99% of posters believe Paul is a nice guy, yet less than 1% know him personally.

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    2. A little different.

      PittofDreams

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  11. PSU just flipped a 2015 Rutgers recruit from eastern PA. Player also had offer from Pitt.
    For those keeping score:
    PSU - 2, Pitt - 0

    Counting PA recruits where PSU & Pitt went head to head and both offered player.

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    1. And both were eastern PA players. Those players are about 5 hours from Pittsburgh so they aren't really local.

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    2. My score book says 3-2 Pitt.

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    3. We should also be terrified of the 2 Star jarvis miller too, right? There's some real elite talent for you...

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    4. Of course, when PSU loses out on a recruit, it's because they stopped recruiting him... BTW we can keep score too. As far as scandals are concerned, Pedo State 1 Pitt 0

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    5. Anony 5:05

      Take your score keeping to the Pedro St blog where you belong.

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  12. I love all three hires what is not to like the WR recruiting should stay the same the coach sounds good to me.
    the DB and RB recruiting should be better with the new coachs
    i see the new hires as better then last years staff except WR which should stay the same it is all good we are in a better place to fight penn state for recruits now that is what i think

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  13. As for the hiring of Greg Lewis as Receiver Coach...

    The TWO BIG QUESTIONS... 1) Can he coach? 2)Can he recruit?

    If you check out this story you get some indication of the answers to both questions.

    Heck, he's gotten me more fired up about Pitt and Pittsburgh.

    http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_25182077/san-jose-state-football-loses-coach-greg-lewis

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  14. From the San Jose State beat writer:

    "From my perspective, Lewis seemed to bring good energy to the staff. Being so closely removed from playing in the NFL, he commanded immediate respect from the receiving corps and delivered plenty of knowledge."

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  15. Very often the guys who had to work the most make the best coaches. They have to pay attention the little things and they learn the intricacies of the positions they play. I think Lewis' relatively young age and his NFL experience will be positives for him in relating with the young players that he will be recruiting. It looks like a good hire to me.

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  16. Penn State always outrecruits Pitt (except for maybe 2006), at least according to the ratings systems ... and should continue to do so. Further, more of the higher rated PA recruits this year is in the east, which is big PSU territory.

    Knowing Pitt's limitations, PC and staff seem to know what they are looking for and have the wherewithal to develop players on the offensive side. Defensively may be another issue but you have to be impressed with the immediate results of the Clairton DBs ... but of course the jury is still out.

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  17. I have no doubt that Penn State will get more elite PA players. Pitt will just have to pick their spots and try to get some under recruited gems. It is what it is.

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  18. Chris;
    Do you think PSU getting S. Barkely could help Pitt's chances with Josh Adams or Andre Robinson? You can never have enough good RB. Also what is PSU's recruiting situation? Are they still limited on scholarships for 2015?

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    1. It can't hurt with Robinson but having Conner and James there may make it hard. I don't think Pitt will recruit Adams much. He's too tall for RB.

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  19. I agree with Chris. Penn State has always (at least in the last 30 years) out-recruited Pitt for elite players and likely always will.

    Makes it that much sweeter when we beat them.

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  20. Its actually good news in my opinion that Barkley switched to PSU. I think Adams is likely to jump on with PSU soon too meaning it is unlikely that Robinson decides to go there. As for recruiting overall.. I see us picking up Holland, Gibson, Shurmur, Richardson, Pilato, Kelly and Juwaun Johnson. Along with the three we already have, that is going to be a decent core to the class. Next years class will probably look similar to this years class and last years class...... and thats ok. Pittsburgh is not a top 30 job, so to expect a coach to come in that can recruit like crazy and coach really well just isn't realistic. And if they could, they would be gone within 2 or 3 years. The direction of the program is in the right direction, unfortunately it dropped off so much(even more than PSU with their debacle) that it wasn't going to be a quick fix.

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  21. Hi Chris,

    Any idea what states or region of the country that Greg Lewis will be assigned to recruit?

    Presumably not California or Hawaii, because we already have Coach Breckterfield covering those areas! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    Thank you.

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  22. People like PittMaverick13 mistaken optimism for "cheerleading". Nothing could be further from the truth. There isn't a poster on this blog (including the blogger himself) who doesn't have some doubt as to whether Chryst will succeed at Pitt. We choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, give him some reasonable time, and then evaluate the results.

    I believe criticism is warranted when appropriate, but finding fault in everything and beating the drum all the time is counterproductive

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    1. I think a lot of criticism has been justified but I will be the first to say he's done a better job with the coaching staff this off season. No question the 3 additions plus Chryst coaching the QBs and having a dedicated special teams coach will make us better. We'll be even younger this coming season than last but our schedule is favorable and I look for us to win 8/9 games.

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    2. Nope, it is easy to spot the cheerleading. A lot of the criticism Chryst has received has been very justified but you have some people who ignore his faults and just think everything he has done is great. And meanwhile we continue with a mediocre .500 record

      I simply call them like I see them. If that upsets the cheerleaders, so be it. I actually commented on other threads here that the other two hires this year were steps in the right direction by bringing in more accomplished and qualified assistants (although the lack of recruiting chops is still scary). So I gave two out of the three hires a positive grade, yet when I say this one is meh, it is funny to see people get upset.

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  23. Who gives a crap about PSU.

    Great to see PC finish up the staff and agree overall he's improved it. The positives keep on coming.

    As for Lewis specifically, was able to do some good things with the players he had so expect that to continue.

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  24. Doke:

    Chryst has been criticized for only hiring coaches he knows. I know there was a connection with Settle at Wisconsin. Was there a connection with Douglass and Lewis somewhere along the way or is he getting outside of his comfort zone with these two hires?

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  25. You know Mav, there's a guy on twitter named "Pittcritic" who has the same mindset and uses the same vernacular; "pom poms" and "cheerleaders". That wouldn't happen to be you, would it?

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    1. No, he's not Joe D. Maverick is too literate, and his arguments are rational. I'm still blocking Joe D's posts on a daily basis, by the way.

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    2. Your not doing a good job blocking.
      You may block 1 of 10 of my posts. lol
      2 of my posts are on this one... can you figure out which?? I only posted twice on this article!!
      Joe D

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    3. If this doesn't prove what a nut you are then I don't know what does. You really are a pathetic human being. Go away. Nobody likes you.

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    4. I personally think you should let him post. As long as he isn't attacking anyone personally then what does it matter? Good to hear opinions on both sides. Too many fan boys here anyhow.

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    5. He's a lunatic who has been harassing me for months. I block those posts.

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  26. Accomplished, experienced, leadership skills and enthusiasm.
    And HCPC went out and found him somewhere other than Madison.
    It's encouraging!

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  27. JoeD

    The posts where you are keeping track of the PSU vs Pitt recruits are yours. Negative posts for sure.

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  28. Cheerleading for Chyrst? Don't really see it. Cheerleading for Dixon? All the time.

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