Tuesday, February 4, 2014

Pitt Football 2014 Class

QUARTERBACK

Adam Bertke, Marion Local HS (Maria Stein, OH)- Very tall at 6'6" and possibly growing even more.  Historically there seems to some evidence that extremely tall quarterbacks don't do well so that's something worth watching for.  He also has to add more weight as he is around 200 pounds right now. Needs some work on his mechanics but doesn't have any major flaws in his delivery. Has had some injury problems. Otherwise he has a stronger than average arm and decent mobility for his size. Also a good student and good leadership ability. Played at a small division but his particular conference has been known to develop major college quarterbacks, like Bobby Hoying. Was offered by Illinois and a handful of MAC schools.

Unit Synopsis:  I had to assume that Wade Freebeck was still committed to the Panthers when I originally wrote this, and I had a long explanation as to why I thought the staff failed in recruiting topnotch quarterbacks. I thought I would have to argue my point because there would be many fans who wouldn't agree with me.  Now I don't think anybody would disagree with me.  How a guy with Paul Chryst's reputation with quarterbacks can't land a nationally recruited quarterback, especially with practically no quarterbacks on the roster, is mind boggling.  In fact the only such quarterback that the staff even offered was Chryst's nephew, Keller, who decided to stay home and play at Stanford.

I just don't get it.  I don't know why the staff is looking for projects at quarterback instead of looking for legitimate big time talent. I love the idea of adding a developmental quarterback in every class because you never know, but only developmental quarterbacks- when you desperately need a big time quarterback? Then to lose Freebeck to Vanderbilt, who has been recruiting him for just two weeks, is almost epically bad. That's not to suggest that Bertke won't be good someday.  He may be the next Ben Roethlisberger for all I know.  But it's still a head scratcher why they wouldn't at least try to land more of a sure thing.  At least try.

RUNNING BACK

Dennis Briggs, Shady Side Academy (Pittsburgh, PA)- Maybe the biggest surprise offer by many in this class. Not big, but solidly built and muscular at 5'10" and 195 pounds. Decent speed, but not a speed burner. Was not highly productive at the high school level. Was offered when he impressed the coaches at their camp. Could end up on defense. Doesn't jump out at you physically but he's a hard worker who continually tries to improve. Only other offer was Toledo.

Chris James, Notre Dame HS (Niles, IL)- Muscular and powerful at 5'9" and 210 pounds.  Runs hard through the tackles. A workout warrior that is a solid block of muscle. Doesn't have breakaway speed but has better than average speed and quickness. Good hands out of the backfield. Very productive at the high school level. Almost committed to Michigan State, then Wisconsin, but both moved on when other targets committed first. Their loss is Pitt's gain because he has the potential to play as a freshman, and even to star in the future. Arizona State, Iowa, Minnesota, and Tennessee were some of his other offers.

Qadree Ollison, Canisius HS (Buffalo, NY)- Strong between the tackles runner at a healthy 6'1" and 225 pounds. Doesn't have great speed or quickness, but both are a good level for his size. Dominated a small classification at the high school level. Could also end up at H-Back if he doesn't pan out at running back.  Some pretty impressive offers, including Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Boston College, Maryland, and Rutgers.

Unit Synopsis: The big target at this position was local running back Shai McKenzie, who the Panthers had a strong chance to land until they landed James. In the long run, it may turn out very well since James has star potential. Ollison is big and runs hard so he may turn into a good player also.  The recruiting for this unit has to be considered a success because of James.


WIDE RECEIVER

Jaquan Davidson, Elizabeth Forward HS (Elizabeth, PA)- High school quarterback who will be given a shot at wide receiver even though he actually has a strong arm and could probably play quarterback at a lower division. Tall, lanky, and skinny at 6'3" and 170 pounds.  Has to put on a lot of weight but he's a long strider that can get from point A to point B in a hurry. Glides when he runs and often had his way at the high school level. Has the ability to end up at safety if he doesn't make it at receiver. Other offers included West Virginia, UConn, Temple, and Illinois.  A real sleeper.

Adonis Jennings, Timber Creek HS (Sicklerville, NJ)- The former Rutgers commit changed his mind and committed to Pitt late in the recruiting cycle. That's good news for the Panthers because he may be the best player in the class. Long, athletic build at 6'3" and 190 pounds, and he has the frame to easily add more size. Speed is good, but not great when timed with the stopwatch, but in games nobody seems to ever catch him. Dynamic runner with the ball in his hands. Has star potential. Other offers included Clemson, Virginia Tech, Arizona, Iowa, Boston College, and Arkansas.

Elijah Zeise, North Allegheny HS (Wexford, PA)- Solidly built at 6'2" and 185 pounds with a frame that could add a lot more weight. Physically he does not have one trait that stands out at an elite level, but he is good to very good in size, speed, athleticism, and hands. A good football player that could also project at safety or even linebacker some day. Other offers came from West Virginia, Arizona, and Temple.

Unit Synopsis: The more I think about this group the more I like it. At the moment Jennings may be the best actual player in the whole class.  He could see a lot of time this season.  And Davidson and Zeise have potential at the position, with the potential to move to another position if need be.


TIGHT END

Brian O'Neill, Salesianum School (Wilmington, DE)- Tight ends usually get a lot of offers and therefore they get a little overrated. That's why it's baffling as to why the Panthers are his only major offer. At 6'6" and 235 pounds the frame is there to be a weapon.  Especially since he can also get down the field in a hurry with his long strides.  On the downside, he goes down too easy for a player his size, and because he operated like a receiver he has little experience with blocking.

Unit Synopsis: The Panthers have some nice young tight ends on the roster already so the staff was not making this unit a priority for this recruiting cycle. But even so, O'Neill is a good developmental prospect.


OFFENSIVE LINE

Alex Bookser, Mt. Lebanon, HS (Pittsburgh)- Land the top offensive lineman in the state known for great offensive linemen? Check. Already a fit 6'6" and 300 pounds, and he can get bigger. Very quick feet which could make him an ideal left tackle candidate down the road. Like most freshmen linemen he will need to get stronger, so he'll very likely redshirt. But in a few years, if he lives up to his potential, he can be a big time left tackle. And if he doesn't? He very possibly could be an all-star defensive tackle since at the moment he's actually a better defensive player.  A lot of big time offers included Penn State, West Virginia, Alabama, Ohio State, USC, Florida State, Nebraska, and Georgia.

Mike Grimm, Bethel Park HS (Bethel Park, PA)- A giant 6'6" 325 pound monster who despite the size is not fat.  Both parents are fitness professionals and he is also a workout warrior. Already stronger than most college linemen. Feet are better than he's given credit for, but not good enough to be a left tackle. That's fine because at right tackle or guard he could develop into one of those linemen that leans on his opponent all day until they eventually give up. Committed early but still picked up offers from West Virginia, Wisconsin, Baylor, Boston College, Arizona, and Virginia.

Connor Hayes, Traverse City West HS (Traverse City, MI)- Strong, bulldozer type at a solid 6'4" and 290 pounds. Tough as hell. Will probably line up at guard but he could play center, too. Committed early but still had offers from programs like Syracuse, Indiana, and Duke.

Unit Synopsis: A potential all-star left tackle and two tough as nails maulers. What's not to like? Back to back excellent offensive line recruiting classes. This unit is getting better in a hurry.


DEFENSIVE LINE

Rori Blair, Upper St Clair HS (Pittsburgh, PA)- Recovered two years ago from a stroke and so far has made a great recovery. Very skinny at 6'3" at a listed 220 pounds, and he looks skinnier than that. But he has the frame to get bigger. Needs a lot more strength. Right now he gets overpowered too often. Good straight line speed and athleticism. Could potentially be an outside linebacker if he can't put on enough weight. An interesting project for many reasons. He's come a long way but he still has a long way to go.

Connor Dintino, Choate Rosemary Hall (Wallingford, CT)- Who knew kids from Connecticut boarding schools could be so big and tough? Dintino was being recruited by most schools for offense but the Panthers liked his combination of size and quickness for defensive tackle. At 6'4" and 300 pounds, Dintino is built like a house- or maybe an apartment complex.  An accomplished wrestler, which has helped him with learning about leverage. Quicker than you'd expect when you see his size. UConn and Buffalo also offered.  A real sleeper.

Mike Herndon, Riverheads HS (Staunton, VA)- It's not often that you see a 6'4" 325 pound middle linebacker (okay, never), but that's what he played in high school. He'll move to defensive tackle for the Panthers. With his big size and the ability to move well, he could turn into a solid player. Virginia Tech offered at one time, and he had some smaller offers.

Shane Roy, Reading Community HS (Cincinnati, OH)- Lanky and aggressive end with the frame to add much more to his 6'4" 220 pound frame. Plays hard.  Good quickness.  Other offers included Boston College, Illinois, and Toledo.

Hez Trahan, Roman Catholic HS (Philadelphia, PA)- Solidly built at 6'4" and 250 pounds. Not explosive or quick so he may move to defensive tackle down the line. Other offers were UMass and Coastal Carolina.

Unit Synopsis: The Panthers desperately needed an influx of talent and numbers on the defensive line and five linemen means they got numbers.  But unfortunately none of the five screams of star potential. That doesn't mean they can't be at least solid, of course. They have enough talent to help down the road. I especially like Dintino the more I watch him. But the staff seems to have trouble targeting and landing highly talented linemen on the defensive side of the ball, especially at end. That's a problem.


LINEBACKERS

Jamal Davis, McKinley HS (Canton, OH)- Looks smaller than his listed 6'2" and 220 pounds. Needs to add strength. More straight line fast than quick or explosive which is why his offer list wasn't better. Those offers did include Louisville, Indiana, Minnesota, and a host of MAC schools.

James Folston, Jr., Cocoa HS (Cocoa, FL)- This kid is growing on me the more tape I watch of him. The son of a former NFL linebacker (with the same name obviously), and a former high school wide receiver and safety. Way too thin right now at 6'3" and 200 pounds but the frame is there to add a lot of weight. Has some speed and more importantly some good quickness and explosiveness. Has a chance to develop into a good college linebacker. Other offers came from South Florida and Minnesota.

Quintin Wirginis, Fox Chapel HS (Fox Chapel, PA)- My biggest sleeper of this class. At 6'2" and 225 pounds he is solidly built and he can get bigger. Aggressive and flies all over the field. Can play in the middle or on the outside. Good speed and athleticism. Got lost in recruiting because he had a late growth spurt then missed all of senior season with an injury.

Unit Synopsis: This is another unit that needs a desperate influx of talent. This is a decent bunch with some promise but it's going to take a lot of development for any of them to emerge as elite college players, and that's something the Panthers defense desperately needs.


DEFENSIVE BACK

Patrick Amara, West Catholic HS (Philadelphia, PA)- A fan favorite already because he talks so lovingly of Pitt on twitter, but he's also good enough to be a fan favorite on the field. Long frame at 6'2" and 175 pounds. Not a blazer on the stopwatch but he plays much faster on the field because of his smarts, anticipation, and quickness. Could turn out to be a very good college player. Other offers included California, Georgia Tech, and Central Florida. His biggest offers came late after a very impressive senior season.

Avonte Maddox, Martin Luther King HS (Detroit, MI)- Small at 5'9" and 160 pounds, but he can flat out fly. Probably the most electrifying player in Michigan this season and that's saying something.    Would be a big time slot receiver in some offenses, but at Pitt he will be at cornerback. Could be a star return man. Good student and leader.

Phillipie Motley, Hilliard Davidson HS (Hilliard, OH)- Another player that is faster in a straight line than is quick or explosive, but he runs in the 4.4s and that's really good. Needs to add weight like most freshman, and at 5'10" and 170 pounds he's not really big. A very willing tackler which isn't always the case with cover corners.

Jalen Williams, Newburgh Free Academy (Newburgh, NY)- Nice sized safety at 6'1" and 175 pounds. He has to get bigger but he has a great, long frame for the position. Moves well.  Very underrated prospect. Reminds me a lot of Jason Hendricks.

Unit Synopsis: I like all four of these recruits but when you lose two elite defensive backs in your own backyard, like Pitt did with Dravon Henry and Montae Nicholson, then it's a bit of a letdown. But I can foresee both Amara and Williams having nice careers at Pitt. And Maddox and Motley, while both small, at least have excellent speed. And if Maddox lives up to his potential as a return man, that alone makes him an excellent addition.


BOTTOM LINE

With the roster depleted in the next few years, a big influx of talent in every unit was needed. Unfortunately that wasn't the case. I like what the staff did at running back, because of Chris James, and at wide receiver and the offensive line. James, Adonis Jennings, Alex Bookser, and Michael Grimm are the best of the bunch and the prospects with the most upside.

After that things start to drop quite a bit. I didn't like the quarterback recruiting to begin with, as I stated above, and now that Freebeck was lost, the quarterback recruiting was even worse. And very inexplicable, to say the least.

On defense there's some good developmental prospects but not one- not one- is an elite prospect. That's twelve recruits, on a defense that's easy for any top prospect to get immediate playing time, and not one is a big time prospect. That doesn't mean that I don't like some of these defensive players. Connor Dintino is intriguing. The linebackers may turn out to be good, and the secondary has a lot of potential. But when you have twelve prospects and all twelve are developmental guys, then you need to recruit better. The truth is, I'm not sure if any of these players on defense can be in the two deep this season.

But the most troubling thing is that the staff clearly looks for developmental prospects almost exclusively. They offer some big time prospects very early, just like have this year, then usually are out of the running before they even get around to hard selling. In the meantime, they start offering very under the radar players, and getting commitments from them, very early, instead of using them as a back up plan. It's as if the plan is to look so hard for under the radar types that the staff doesn't spend as much time wooing the more elite prospects.

Don't get me wrong. Getting under the radar types is a skill, and the staff may prove to be excellent at it. But you can only get so far with a team loaded with developmental projects.

The running back, wide receiver, tight end, and offensive line recruiting for Chryst's staff has been excellent, so we know they have it in them. But quarterback and defense recruiting needs to be much better. That's two extremely important facets of a football team, needless to say. Failing to recruit impressively in every unit is what eventually limited Dave Wannstedt. Chryst must improve his recruiting, maybe even a lot, or is he's going to put an awful lot of stress on an inexperienced coaching staff to get the most out of talent that's simply okay.

61 comments:

  1. Recruiting for the offense has been fine.
    Recruiting for the defense absolutely sucks. Just look at the quantity/quality the last 3 years.

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  2. What makes the quarterback situation even worse is that I do not see them doing anything for the 2015 class yet. One possibility would be Brett Brumbaugh out of South Fayette. I do not know if Pitt offered him yet or if they have even offered to any other 2015 quarterback. I recall that you stated several months ago that Graham Adomitis from Central Catholic HS may also become a quarterback? If so he would also be a project with only one year experience.

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    1. They're looking at similar development QBs as of now. From various places. Still no big time QB yet.

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    2. The Wisky model uses developmental QBs....so should we expect different from this staff?

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    3. We should. When you're trying to get a top QB to Wisconsin it's not easy. But getting a top QB to Pitt is easier.

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    4. Doke - I agree, but I'm concerned this leopard won't change his spots.

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    5. how is it easier? Wisconsin is a nationally respected program that went to 3 strait rose bowls and won a lot of games. pitt just had their first winning season in 3 years

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    6. Wisconsin won more games for many reasons but getting elite QB recruits is not one of them. Pitt has always landed more elite QB recruits than Wisconsin.

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  3. The twist and turns of our QB recruiting over the last few years:
    2013: top QB Malik Zaire probably wasn't too far off from committing to Pitt until he got a ND offer. Pitt then turned it's sights to Chapman who is now off the team. Interestingly enough if Chapman had gone elsewhere I think Pitt would have landed John O'Korn who was from the same HS as Freebeck. He ended up at Houston and had a solid freshman season.
    2014: Missed in Chryst and Andrew Ford who were probably the top two targets. Then set our sights on Bertke and Freebeck, landed both, and now we have one.

    Now my guess is we will go after two again next year. This is a ways off but I think we might have a shot at Seth Green, 2016 QB, who I think might end up being one of the top QBs in the class

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  4. Chris, were Chapman and Malik Zaire considered elite QA recruits?

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  5. There is nothing anyone can do about it, but I think it was awful what Freebeck did! It is ok for a kid to "flip" in October or December but it is totally wrong the day before signing day. He should be ashamed.

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    1. Is it the kids fault, or the system? When you have coaches able to opt out of contracts year in and year out and change the landscape of recruiting so much, what do you expect? Vandy has had 2 weeks to try and fill the voids left by Franklin, can you blame them for trying to poach everyone they can? So they go down and promise Freebeck the world and the young man gets overwhelmed. Coaches can come and go as they please, but we look down upon the kids who are trying to do the best for themselves? If Chryst were able to get his nephew to switch over tonight, everyone would be singing his praises, not shame on him.

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  6. Chryst is probably kicking himself after pulling the offer from Chandler Kincaide AFTER kincaide had been committed!

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  7. I think Maddox will be return man day 1. He was at OSU's summer camp, and a coach tweeted that he put on a show, speed to burn.

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  8. Jaquan Davidson will be playing QB at pitt at least his freshmen year good thing he played QB in high school and he does have a good arm.
    he will be on the scout team but we have no choice but to use him there now in 2015 he can go back to WR. unless he looks good at QB. he has the hight he is 6 foot 3

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    1. He would never be a high major starting QB but he could be a high major starting WR so Pitt will never move him permanently.

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  9. So reading between the lines from different recruiting sites, it looks like NJ might be the important state for 2015.

    Daiquan Kelly seems likely and would a great get.
    Juwaun Johnson seems very possible(Alabama scouts rep has him going to Pitt while the others have him going to Alabama. Lets hope the Alabama guy knows what he is talking about. )


    Pitt can be able to head into NJ and get a couple of talented skill guys every year. New Jersey has loads of skill players every year that get poached from all over, and Pitt needs to be in there taking their share.

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  10. NJ is loaded for '15 and both Kelly and Johnson are big time talents that are liking Pitt a lot right now. Getting both would be a coup. But they will get a lot of big offers so hopefully Pitt can wrap them up while they can.

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    1. Chris: When can we expect your analysis of the 2015 class and potential PA targets for Pitt?

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    2. Fantastic. Looking forward to it.

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    3. It will be like Festivus in January--listing all the ways this coaching staff will disappoint us on the recruiting trail in the year ahead.

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    4. When you do your 2015 analysis one of the major points will be what Pitt can do about the quarterback situation be it JUCO and right out of high school. With Anderson being gone after this year, we definitely need at least two viable quarterbacks in next year's class. Chryst, at his press conference, did not seem like it was that big a deal but it may the thing that costs him his job in four or five years. If Voytik goes down this year, we are going to be in for a very, very long year.

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  11. where is troy vincent?

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  12. You should always be concerned about losing a recruit, especially a Quarterback. But this really isn't bother me that much. I hate to say this, but "kids today...", I'm actually surprised that we don't see more of this. In reality, this kid seems to want the Vandy diploma and his road to the starting at QB is more clear there, and there is always the lure of SEC.

    I don't like it, I also don't like when players appear to avoid competition, but then again, that could be a bonus to find out about him now.

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  13. Chris - If you had to identify a silver lining regarding Pitt's QB situation, what would it be?

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  14. What an absolutely underwhelming recruiting class. After losing out on all of those WPIAL recruits and most recently Freebeck it's a complete disappointment in my opinion. I like Jennings, Amara and James, but all three don't jump out of my. I loved Freebeck's size and numbers at a powerhouse in FLA. I don't care if we miss out of WPIAL guys as long as we are getting FLA guys instead. That didn't happen. Don't let Freebeck's explanation fool you. Yes, Vandy is a great institution and university, but he flipped because of coaching. Vandy sold the university better than Pitt's staff. A degree from Pitt is highly regarded.

    What most people don't realize is how poor this staff is at closing. They get these guys on campus, but can't get them to commit. That inability to close is a reflection of the head coach and his "commit if you want" attitude. It's frustrating and the reality at Pitt. They will be a middling average ACC team until they get an ace recruiter on staff or replace the head coach.

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    1. Wow.
      This must be the most critical you have ever been of Chryst.
      You are finally starting to get it!!

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    2. You must be new here. I'm a realist when it comes to the Pitt program. I'm not a fan boy like a lot of posters here.

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  15. Chryst "tried" with Keller Chryst. You said so yourself. Does that not count? How many sure thing QB's are out there each year anyway. You can probably count them on one hand, if you even need that many fingers. In order for them to sniff Pitt, PC will need a program to sell them first. Pitt's just not there yet. Can't blame Paul Chryst for the loss of Freebeck. And I can't blame him much for concentrating his efforts on finding worthwhile QB "projects" versus the sure bets at this point in time either.

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    1. You're giving Chryst credit for actually trying to recruit his elite QB nephew? Wow, how magnanimous of you. And you're not doing Pitt a favor for making excuses for them. Maybe the administration is lurking in after all.

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    2. Yep, another Pitt admin post.
      They do the same at other blogs but mostly they get posts deleted.

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    3. You are easily duped if you think I work for Pitt. But you answered my question. Yes, Chryst pursued an elite QB, but no he doesn't count.

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    4. Fast forward to next year...from Paul Zeise:

      "Paul Chryst offers to his son Danny, a 3 star QB who decides to play at Rutgers....the Pitt office claims he was not Pitt material...."

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  16. Chris,

    Appreciate you responding to my question yesterday regarding Freebeck.

    Personally, I posted back on December 4th that between Pitt's two QB Commits, Bertke was the "most intriguing."

    That's not changed.

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  17. I think Chryst might be kicking himself in the butt for running off Myers. Never given the chance. First team all-state Ohio top conference is not shabby. What transpired we will never know. We can quess Myers would have not played this year because of Savage but IMO he presnets a better option at 6'4" 220 lbs. with a strong strong arm compared to 6'0" 210 lbs Voytik who show in the Little Ceasars bowl that his arm strength is as best moderate and his speed overrated ran 40 .10 slower than Tino. prospects beyond.
    Another mistake was to allow Keller Chyrist to play with Pitt thereby losing Kincade.
    Christ was not coming to Pitt.

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    1. voytik showed very good mobility in that game and he has enough arm strength to stretch the field. and Meyers never showed anything with that size and arm strength to warrant the opinion that he would be a better qb than voytik

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  18. Is Jennings the only commit still unsigned? What's the story there?

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  19. Did you see the throw Voytick made to Boyd in the bowl game? I think his arm is just fine.

    DT

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  20. daveclt, everyone signed including Jennings

    I believe Voytik is a gamer ... however, if he gets hurt this year, Pitt may be in trouble

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  21. I didn't want to make a post about this because I want people to be able to still comment on this post, but it's being reported that Bobby Engram is a strong candidate for Baltimore Ravens WR job.

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    1. Wonder if Engram got a raise.
      I was concerned he would go to PSU instead of Terry Smith.
      I said he should be the highest paid assistant behind the OC's.

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    2. Normally this sort of news wouldn't be concerning; you want your assistants to be so successful that they're coveted by other programs. But given Chryst's downright perplexing hires, I don't exactly have great confidence that, if Engram leaves, he will be replaced by another dynamic recruiter.

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    3. If Engram goes, that will really be bad. No one on the defensive side of the ball inspires any confidence in recruiting or coaching. All you have really is Engram and Rudolph

      And we know how foolish most of Chrsyt's hires have been. So i shudder to think who he would get to replace Engram

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    4. Engram will be accepting the Raven's position

      So what out of work Wisconsin receiver is looking to get into coaching

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  22. One source on the Engram story… but obviously not “THE SOURCE.”

    http://coachingsearch.247sports.com/Article/Coaching-Transactions-Coaching-Search-Ticker-174892

    PittofDreams

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  23. Travis:
    Do you see the Pitt administration allocating the funds for an ace recruiter? Do you see Chryst going out of his comfort zone to hire one?

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  24. Aren't Franklin and Flood going to fight it out in New Jersey for recruits? What connection do we have there now? Call me paranoid for wondering if Franklin had a hand in flipping Freebeck as, well, compensation for stealing some Vandy recruits?

    After all, Franklin's been sending messages to Chryst about dominating PA.

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  25. Chris have to disagree with Voytiick's arm strength. I missed the live broadcast and watched the game on CD. Careful to pay attention to the deep ball thrown by Voytick I noticed something that those watching the broadcast live might have missed. He rolled out and had no defenders in his face so to make the 40 yard throw he took three steps forward and then threw. This is quite different from throwing deep balls from the pocket.
    Plus his end zone run was set up by Connors ball fake who B.G. bit on because he he had run over 200 yards.
    I did not make up the fact that his speed in the forty is less than Tino's and only slightly better than Savage's. I am not being mean spirited only objective he is no second coming of Russel Wilson.
    It is just my opinion but what I saw in the LC bowl was a QB that needs work to be as good as Tino. My opinion is based on the his statistics 4-12 in the bowl and the lack of velocity on his throws. Like Tino he will see 8 men in the box next year. Remember Voytick played in a state that is sparesly populated and he played at one of the lower classifications in the state.
    Finally your statements on Myers are generalized "coach speak" with no specific reasons to substantiate them except he did not play at Pitt therefore he must not have been good enough like Flacco.

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    1. Tino was NOT a Winner. Period. End of argument.

      PittofDreams

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    2. Slight correction. Voytik's throw in the bowl game traveled over 50 yards in the air.

      And the bootleg plays will work with any QB who has any foot speed at all. How often do you see a QB get caught when they bootleg? It's rare. Which is why I always wonder why teams don't use it more. BTW, Tino scored on a bootleg at ND a few years ago.

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  26. Yet somehow he performed really well in the Elite 11 on ESPN. He is light years ahead of Tino in mobility and quickness. In addition, you were critical of a player who had not played all of the year. He did exceptionally well with little to no experience to draw on.

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  27. Another Effing ugly basketball game.
    Jamie has them wound so tight because he is controlling every dribble and pass that he won't let them play. Pitt has decent players but they lost their confidence.
    Can't make a shot. They are thinking too much as iff they need to make another pass. Pass, pass, pass. They need to just practice shooting. Fuck the plays.
    This is a coaching issue!!

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    1. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. People complain about Jaime Dixon because he plays a brand of basketball that has been successful over the last 10+ years. Do you think that these kids on the team now show up and are surprised about the style Pitt plays? They know how Pitt plays well before they commit and that style is reinforced on the court...and it works. Has Pitt had the largest number of pure shooters since Dixon has been coach? No. But, Dixon has done a masterful job of taking talent that is sometimes not elite and growing that talent into tournament contenders. (By the way, I'm sure they practice shooting the ball) He doesn't control every dribble and pass...no coach does that. He does run set plays and and tries to get the ball to his best player...every coach does that. In the end, their shooting has gone into a slump the last couple of games. But clearly this team can put the ball in the basket...they have been averaging the highest # of points per game that Pitt has seen in quite some time.
      And, speaking as a lifelong Pitt fan and graduate, for everyone who just sits at home and rips on Pitt, whether it be for football or basketball...go to bed please!!

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  28. I understand that losing freebeck sucks. Bertke is a project. I just don't understand why people think that Pitt is some promise land for top QB's. I wish our depth was a lot better, but Voytik is quite possibly the most highly regarded QB recruit in the past ten years(Bostik and Palko being the other 4 star guys) and he will be a sophmore next year. Another 4 star QB(chapman) decided to get into a scuffle with his girlfriend. However by most recruiting sites, that is 2 4star QBs in a row. When half of the top rated QBs come from California, why does anyone think Pitt would be in play for them. Next year, USC has already locked up not one but 2 of the top 10 QBs in the nation. Pitt has a good shot at bringing in brumbaugh next year, and hopefully they can add another piece. They are in the running for seth Green in two years. Don't be surprised if they find a transfer or JUCO for depth, but get ready to ride the Voytik train and lets hope he stays healthy.

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    1. 1. Chapman was not a 4 star QB. Most schools wanted him as a WR.

      2. Pitt signed Palko, Rutherford, Bostick, and Voytik, all very highly ranked recruits so Pitt is capable of landing an elite QB.

      3. Some of the the most highly recruited QBs in this class went to schools like Kentucky, Arkansas, Mississippi, West Virginia, Northwestern, North Carolina, TCU, and NC State. Those programs aren't elite programs but they seemed to have no problems with getting an elite QB.

      4. Paul Chryst has a great track record with developing big time QBs and Brooks Bollinger is a very respected and liked QB coach so there's really no reason why they can't land an elite QB.

      5. Pitt only offered one elite QB this year, and that was somebody who everybody assumed was going to stay home and play for the local power. Hard to get an elite QB if you don't even try.

      6. I think Pitt could get an elite QB in 2015 and I have a good idea of who it may be.

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  29. A great article on why STARS MATTER - no matter what the pom pom wavers try to say

    http://www.footballstudyhall.com/2014/2/5/5382140/recruiting-matters-why-the-sites-get-the-rankings-right

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