Friday, October 3, 2014

Jordan Whitehead to Pitt

Needless to say this is huge for the program. Pitt is in desperate need for elite talent, especially at cornerback. Expect Whitehead to start at cornerback as a true freshman, return kicks and punts, and maybe even play some offense.

46 comments:

  1. Will this help future recruiting in Beaver County -- or give Chryst and his team more confidence that they can compete with Franklin, Meyer, and Holgorsen?

    I recall you saying a couple years back that one of the big recruits out of Beaver County was dumping all over Pitt and had poisoned the well.

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  2. Welcome to Pitt Jordan!!!

    I must say I am extremely surprised. I figured it'd be WVU, and I couldn't be more pleased to say I was wrong!

    Congrats to the staff for an outstanding get.

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    1. I'm not, why in the world would a kid want to go to that dump and play for a program that is a Big 12 doormat?

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    2. Whitehead committing to Pitt is a surprise. Almost nobody saw it coming.

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  3. Nice... The so called experts on 247 were all wrong but 1...

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    1. They 1 said OSU for months and months then change 2 days ago.

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  4. I'm so happy this happened and he chose Pitt. Never seen him play, what is he really great at? Is he a burner, does he tackle well? Is he a program changer on the defensive side of the ball? pghfan1992

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    1. Whitehead is extremely fast and elusive with the ball in his hands, he's the main reason CV has been one of the ebtter teams in AAA for the last three years. He's a nice playmaker on defense, he just doesn't have the size to play RB in college so he'll be a CB. He's a great athlete, pretty much along the same lines as Tyler Boyd.

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  5. Way to dominate the state! I guessed playing time & being close to home influenced him. H2P!

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  6. Welcome aboard Mr. Whitehead !! do you have any talented friends you can bring ?

    Hail to Pitt.

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  7. Hail To Freakin Pitt!!!!!!!!!

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  8. Pitt's secondary is starting to look good for next year. Howard will be coming back. Combine him with Amara and Whitehead and you'll have a pretty solid young group of cover corners.

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  9. Shocker.
    Guess we can't say Chryst can't recruit elite in his backyard anymore.

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    1. Maybe this convinces Foster to transfer back to Pitt after this year.

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    2. Foster with 0 catches today for Bama. He'd be starting at Pitt tonight.

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  10. Thank goodness. Welcome to Pitt Jordan!!!!

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  11. Where are those Anon posters who gave pitt 1% chance...My take is this...Don't say bunk if you don't know anything. Great get.

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  12. I'm pleasantly surprised, excellent news! All I know is what I read on Scout.com, where this kid went from zero interest Monday to medium interest yesterday to a verbal commit today.

    So either Scout was behind on its news, or else evidently Pitt has a recruiter who knows how to close. Hopefully the latter.

    Chris, do you know who was Pitt's main recruiter assigned to Whitehead?

    H2P

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    1. According to rivals it was Chryst and Rudolph.

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    2. A big local kid like this is recruited by everybody, including half the team.

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    3. He said James Conner was the main "recruiter"...he said Conner texted him every day...he's like a big brother. That and being close to home.

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  13. Scout is behind on their news as usual. Rudolph was his main recruiter.

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  14. I was one of the many who doubted he'd come and let me publicly eat crow. I am so, so happy to be wrong.

    It's really great to land this first elite defensive player. I hope Chryst and Rudolph and staff learn from this and recognize that this is the level of effort it takes to bring in talent.

    I hope they remember these lessons and replicate them. There are still holes to fill in this year's class (since JW is enrolling in January he counts against last year's class which is a big plus given how small this class will be) so let's go out and get some elite talent to join him.

    Jay stocker, johnny petrishen, saleem brightwell, and shareef miller. Close on these guys and it's Chryst's best class.

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  15. Dokish can you fill us in on the early enrollment rule? The reason I ask is because QB Alex Hornibrook will also be enrolling in January, and I was wondering if that will open a space for a guy like brumbaugh, or another QB to join the class. It certainly seems like we need more depth there and this would be the first class Chryst didn't try to bring in two QBs.

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    1. Early enrolled players count towards last year's allotment so they'll be able to add a few more for this year. But I doubt Brumbaugh is one of them.

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  16. Chris, what were your thoughts on the Hoops Team after tonight's scrimmage?

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    1. I wasn't there but because of Uchebo's rebounding I think they'll be even better than I thought before and I thought they'd be pretty damn good.

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    2. Can you tell me then what your thoughts were of Uchebo's rebounding when you watched him in the summer games?

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  17. “They were consistently trusting. They were not pushing. They made sure to tell Jordan, ‘We're here. You know how much we want you. You want to talk, we'll talk, but we're not going to pressure you."

    Central Valley Coach Mark Lyons (Trib Review)

    Seems JUST OFFER does work... with some kids. Getting a glimpse of who Jordan Whitehead is... maybe CHARACTER is the key.

    PittofDreams



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    1. And how many times hasn't it worked??
      Lets not go there.
      Pitt had working for it immediate playing time and lack of depth/competition for starting. Whereas the other 3 was going to be competitive. Sort of like Foster going to Bama.

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    2. POD,

      PC's approach does seem to work with certain kids. Personally, I'd rather have a kid of mine recruited in the way Chryst does it, rather than a bunch of high-pressure nonsense. He, the staff and team members are to be congratulated for bringing such a highly-touted kid to Pitt. (and a local no less)

      I believe the jury's still out whether he can recruit enough of these high-caliber kids to Pitt, but yesterday was a very hopeful sign.

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    3. Anonymous 7:30 AM...

      1st to all, I'm shocked Whitehead picked Pitt especially after going into the terlit against Akron.

      Secondly Anonymous, yes Whitehead apparently liked Coach Bratwurst's approach - that's great that he has that type of character.

      Unfortunately, Pitt needs more "Characters" like we had in the late 70's and early '80's if we're ever going to be a top program again.

      And with most of these "Characters" Pitt doesn't have a chance with the "just offer" approach.

      These guys like the flash and dance that guys like Franklin provide swooping in on his helicopter.

      The very top players respond a LOT more to great salesmanship than
      ...just offer.

      Plus the Pitt administration....forget that!

      Early playing time and the results of former teammate Foster at Alabama played a lot more into Whitehead's decision than ....just offer... believe me.

      If Pitt ever decides that they really want to win at FB again....and they won't....they would clean house...pun intended - fire the entire coaching staff along w/ Pederson and start over with an emphasis.

      And unfortunately it will never happen.

      Steve Pederson, Paul Chryst and this staff will NEVER bring back Pitt to ANY sort of prominence.

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    4. Very interesting, PoD.

      I'm 100& certain that "just offer" works for some kids, this is proof. And there are some programs it would work for almost every kid: Alabama, Oregon, probably Texas and Southern Cal for in-state kids. Nebraska.

      So the key is for Pitt to somehow stop the bonehead losses to schools like Y-State and Akron, raise the win totals from 6 per year with a rinky-dink bowl to 8-9 (or dare we dream, 10-11) wins per year and a high profile bowl. And "just offer" will work a lot better for Pitt too.

      H2P

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  18. Great article here about recruiting vs results.
    Statistical analysis. Regression shows recruiting matters as the correlation is significant (.77).
    Let me simplify. If you average recruiting rank of say 25 over the past 4 years, you can expect BCS ranking from 20-30 roundabout.
    Pitt 4 yr average BCS rank was 45 +/- 16.7.
    Pitt 4 yr average Recruiting rank was 37.7 +/- 5.4
    In Pitt's case, Pitt is recruiting better than it is coaching. lol

    http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-which-ncaa-football-teams-outplay-their-recruit-1640831522/+benes

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    1. I don't see how these numbers are all that useful. Recruiting is a very inexact, subjective science, and it's not necessarily the case that a team's recruiting ranking is a true reflection of how good the class was.

      BCS rankings are also somewhat subjective in nature, so trying to make a direct correlation between two subjective entities is really not of much value.

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    2. It is easier to make correlations when you have a head coach that is getting paid about 60th. There is no better way to rank team success than through the BCS ranking, so we should go with that. I mean seriously. Is there a big difference as to whether you are BCS ranked 40th or 50th?

      Recruiting rank is again subjective, but when all of these are put together, you have to admit that a headcoach getting paid at 60th, is slightly outperforming his pay status with ranking and recruiting rank, albeit, subjective. The measurables indicate that the Pitt Administration, starting with the AD, are not committed to winning.

      Great get for Paul Chryst. Welcome aboard Jordan Whitehead. Obviously studied the two deep. Now, go cherrypick a Michigan defender or qb.That class is starting to fall apart. Malzone and a dlineman would be super!

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  19. Where is Jerry "The Mole"?????????????????? If we lose to Virginia, I'm sure he'll show up!

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    1. The Mole is in shock. Someone from Beaver Co. just committed to Pitt. LOL

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  20. I think it's time to bench Voytik...
    Either burn the RS on the Frosh or bring in Anderson to finish the game.

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  21. God I wish we had a qb.

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  22. How in the hell was CV a 4 star QB in HS?

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    1. Small school (low level competition)
      and his dad knew how to market his son!
      Just like Terry Smith at Gateway use to do. How many overrated kids came out of Gateway?

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  23. It's simple... Voytik a GOOD Athlete. Not a D-1 Quarterback.

    Why didn't the "Recruiting Gurus" get this?

    PittofDreams

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  24. Dok,

    How hot do you think PC's seat is? I heard that his deal expires after two more seasons. You would think they would have to extend him next year if that is the case. There clearly isn't evidence to warrant that yet. Personally, I don't think Pederson has the guts to fire another coach.

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  25. would have to renew him for 5 years this year for recruiting.

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