Thursday, October 16, 2014

Pitt 21 Virginia Tech 16

Another ugly performance at times for Pitt, but luckily for them Virginia Tech was flat out atrocious on offense.

1. I'm not sure if this really proves anything in the wrong run.  Pitt won but the same questions are still there. Chad Voytik still is not passing well and the defense still hasn't proven anything because they play one bad offense after another.

2. On the other hand, Pitt wisely tailored the offensive game plan to Voytik's strengths, which basically means they had him run instead of pass. And run he did. I will say this much about Voytik. The man can run extremely well for a quarterback. He led the Panthers in rushing in the game with 118 yards rushing on 19 carries.  But like I said, his passing is still below average. On the night he completed 10 of 17 passes for 92 yards. He also had a TD and an interception. Oh, and he even caught a pass from Tyler Boyd for a 29-yard gain.

3.  For some strange reason, James Conner was not asked to run much and in fact he ran only 6 times in the second half. For the game, Conner had 85 yards on 16 carries (5.2 avg.), and 2 touchdowns.  He also continued the habit of running like a man possessed when he smells the end zone.

4.  Boyd continued his excellent play with 6 catches for 86 yards, including a beautiful 53-yrd touchdown.  But he had no catches in the second half.

5.  Defensively, the Panthers were led by Ray Vinopal, Anthony Gonzalez, and David Durham. The defense played well for the most part but the Hokies' offense is so putrid that it's hard to say how well the Panthers defense really did.

6.  Truthfully, the game shouldn't have been as close ass it was.  A lot of dumb penalties and turnovers hurt Pitt. They simply aren't good enough to make too many mistakes and win most of the time. They were very lucky that Virginia Tech was so awful.

7.  Pitt ran for 210 yards.  Virginia Tech ran for 26 yards.

8.  At the end of the day, what does it all mean? Pitt didn't play that well but they won. The coaches made some strange decisions and questionable play calls. But with a struggling team, this is at least a win. And there were many top recruits visiting so it's better to win an ugly game in front of a half-packed house than to lose an ugly game on front of a half-packed house.

83 comments:

  1. They really reminded me of Kansas State they way the offense executed tonight.

    I'll take the win, 6 wins are possible but this team still is their own worse enemy, penalties are killing them and could have cost them the game.

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  2. Nice win. But it's about Voytik. He's obviously not comfortable throwing the ball and it's holding back the team.

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  3. The streak is broken

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  4. Is it too much to ask to get the TE's the ball or try a screen pass

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    1. They threw a few screens & VT blew it up for a loss/no gain each time.

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  5. Play calling in 1st quarter was good.. then it turned to the typical wtf moments we are used to... good teams will beat us if we stay one dimensional...The defense has yet to play a good offense but credit needs to go to them this year. If our offense was ranked nationally where our defense is we would be undefeated.

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  6. I'm not sure who is worse at playcalling, Chyrst or Haley?
    1. Voytik runs the ball.
    2. Voytik hands the ball off to Conner.
    3. Voytik passes to Boyd.

    Reason VT was so bad on offense was that they lost 3 of their top RB's for tonights game and for that Pitt should be greatful for the win albeit an Ugly win.

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  7. Chad obviously doesn't see the field very well when it's on passing downs they had a great field position all night long and did nothing with it but they won

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  8. I think your analysis is spot-on. It's kind of like when you are learning to swim. You're lucky just to keep your head above water. Pitt was bobbing and came out on top.

    The stadium situation isn't going away for those who just love, love, love playing at Steeler Stadium. Today's Trib covers Pederson's rented Palace.

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  9. I think you could see how awesome Voytik would have been in Graham's offense. He

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  10. To those that say the play calling was poor or got worse as the game went on. Was that a bad call when Voytik kept the ball and ran for 49 yards in the second half right before Conner's second touchdown? Give the coaching staff some credit for the use of the read option. Voytik won the game with his feet and had VT off balance most of the night. Does he need to improve as a passer? Absolutely! Pitt should have score at least 28 points in that game. I thought Voytik panicked a couple of times and scrambled too soon or stepped into the rush. He simply has to get better at looking for receivers other than Boyd and he has to get better at throwing on the run. Also, he can't throw an interception like he did before the half when Pitt was positioned to add to their lead.

    Yes, VT's offense was terrible but credit the Pitt defense for keeping them in check and most of all, when the game was all too close with two minutes left forcing VT to turn it over on downs. They got decent pressure on the QB throughout the game. Winslow did a great job with several punts inside the 10 yard line.

    Still need to clean up the penalties. The worst to me was Soto's roughing the passer on the same play Mitchell made the interception in the end zone.

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    1. You won't get top receivers coming to Pitt if Voytik is the QB for the next few years!!

      I'm sure Boyd, the other WR's and TE's are not too happy that Voytik is an RB disguised as a QB!!
      Voytik didn't "read" anything. He just ran. It appears he lost his confidence to make the throw so he runs now instead.

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    2. Well said Steve. A staff is supposed to tailor the offense to its strengths. We were getting nowhere in the passing game. Voytik has a bad habit of looking for Boyd all the time. On the replay of one of his incompletions to Boyd, you could clearly see Garner wide open underneath. Instead, he throws to Boyd.

      On the interception he tried to force the ball through two VT defenders in order to get the ball to Boyd.

      I understand you want to get the ball to your playmakers, but you can't force it.

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    3. Tried to post this yesterday but apparently it never went through. To this "Anonymous" - please look up "read option." Voytik absolutely read something and was not "just running." He did a good job of keeping the ball or handing off to Conner when he "read" the defensive end's response to the way the play was developing.

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    4. Steve,
      Voytik was just running. Even the media was tweeting that. Werner, Peak, etc.

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    5. Interesting. That is not what Werner wrote in today's PG. I suspect Steve knows what he's talking about. (Unlike POD.)

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    6. Werner in Redshirt Diaries - "Tonight the Panthers introduced a heavy dose of read option." If Voytik was just running why did he bother to stick the football into Conner's belly repeatedly while watching the d lineman before he took off? Why not just take the snap and run?

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    7. Sam Werner @SWernerPG · Oct 16

      Voytik hasn't done a good job tonight keeping his eyes downfield on scrambles. Looking to run right away.

      Sam Werner @SWernerPG · Oct 16

      Not a whole lot of faith in Voytik's arm there, throwing a short swing pass on 3rd-and-13 when you need to seal the game.

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    8. Anybody could see they were running a option in the second half but in first he was just running..

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    9. Steve,
      When you see almost the same identical article in both the Trib and PG, that means Pitt media told them to write it.
      They got to drum up people to go to games so they try to make us think Pitt has turned the corner for those who didn't watch the game.

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    10. Wow you really believe what you just said.

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    11. At Anon 12:24. As negative as the PG and Trib articles were about Pitt and the poorly timed, and rather selfish, piece about an on-campus stadium were clearly not influenced by Pitt. Say what you want about the current team - they're not very good - but the recaps, especially by Werner were classless garbage. I am never reading his work again. Pitt is treated better by the visiting team's papers win or lose than we are by the locals rags.

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    12. 1:40 that is so right on ! You would think home team they would get better pr . I know we're I live now they are will respected I live in acc territory

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  11. Chris, what did you think of the Pitt crowd? Hope you were able to stay dry!

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  12. Question for Ron Cook and Chris: If Voytik won 10 or 11 games keeping the ball on the ground what would you say then? Maybe that will be what he does best? I found it refreshing to watch that guy run run run.

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  13. Now, that Chryst has shown his hand regarding Voytik’s ability to run, teams are obvously going to prepare for it.

    And from what I saw last night, from a passing standpoint it actually looks like Voytik is REGRESSING.

    This Team is in TROUUUU-BLE going forward with Voytik at Quarterback… UNLESS Chryst throws out his Offense and replaces it with a Run First, Second and Last Offense along the lines of what we saw last night.

    A BETTER OPTION for Chryst at this point would be to start giving Trey Anderson meaningful snaps in a move “toward” more of a Two-Quarterback Rotation.

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    1. Trey Anderson will not see the field unless Voytik is hurt. Name one team where a consistent two quarterback rotation has been effective.

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    2. POD,

      Your comprehension of QB play is unbelievable. You think Anderson should be getting some snaps? Steve is correct. Voytik is Pitt's best option this season (unfortunately). Also, you don't throw an offense out the door in the middle of the season.

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    3. Just so I understand. Chryst and Co finally modified the play calling to match the QB they have rather than the QB they want, said adjustments worked, we won, Voytik made the best pass of his career, and you want to bench him for the unproven walk on?

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    4. If by "best pass of his career" you're referring to the TD to Boyd... you may want to take another look at it.

      It was Boyd's BEST CATCH of the year. He made Voytik look good by his willingness to not flinch despite the ball being thrown directly into DOUBLE COVERAGE.

      It was the VaTech Safety who flinched. Good thing. If he hadn't it would have been a completely different outcome.

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    5. Steve and Mr. Anonymous...

      Of course I know that rotating Quarterbacks is not what you want. But that's under NORMAL circumstances.

      Having a Quarterback with a seemingly TOTAL INABILITY to read coverages and get the ball to an Open Receiver is NOT normal.

      And if Chryst would make some change at QB... it would NOT be throwing the Offense out at all.

      Due to Voytik's problems, we've yet to see the Chryst Offense this Season... and that is a SERIOUS HANDICAP to this Team.

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    6. POD,

      There is no other QB on the roster that Chryst can put in that will perform better than Voytik. End of story. And this predicament is on Chryst for not recruiting the QB position better. So quit calling for Anderson or Bertke because it ain't happening. BTW...take a FB 101 class.

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    7. Anonymous... here's what I posted about Pitt's Quarterback... on September 4 2013.

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      It's not hard to tell that Voytik lacks the ability to consistently “spin” the football and be accurate with his throws, even short ones. This was evident in the Pitt Spring game despite his gaudy numbers against a predictable second-string defense.

      However, Voytik is smart and a strong athlete with a definite ability to run the football.

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      Let me know what Section of FB 101 you're teaching.

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  14. I'm not sure what can be taken away from this game. Glad for the win, but Pitt should've won by a much larger margin. Mistakes continue to plague this team, but luckily VT's offense was awful.

    It was good to see Voytik's running ability utilized, but the lack of a passing game will hurt this team. If you have a QB that can run, but not pass, you've got a QB problem.

    An ugly win, but I'll take it. Hopefully, this team will learn how to step on an opponent's throat when it has a chance to put them away.

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  15. Chris, I've read that there some big recruiting targets at the game last night. DE Shareef Miller and his 2016 DE/TE classmate Naseir Upshur, Kaezon Pugh, Aaron Matthews etc.

    First, do you have any other names who were there and second, any word on impressions? Miller has to be our top remaining 2015 target.

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    1. Pretty much all of the big locals for 15, 16, and 17. Lamont Wade, Dewaye Murray, Damar Hamlin, Duane Brown, Robert Hainsey, Khaleke Hudson, and many more.

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    2. Are there any 2016 QBs other than Mcilwain in PA? Or 2017?

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    3. Any word on impressions?

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  16. From reading all the blogs and PG you think Pitt lost! Pitt Won the last I checked. They beat a team that beat Ohio State & we beat VT and we lost to Akron. What does this all tell us? I don't know and really don't care but Pitt Won last night! Try to enjoy the win for 8 days because it is better than losing.

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    1. The team that beat Ohio State was not the team Pitt played Thursday. VT was missing their top 3 running backs that played and contributed during the ohio state game. Plus, VT lost two top defenseman for the Pitt game, so the teams weren't the same.

      What was the same was the Pitt offense, which is terrible. Every game that Voytik starts is a game we are losing opportunities to get the true freshman Bertke, quality snaps. Pitt knows what they have in Voytik and that is a strong runner and overall cerebral qb. What they don't have is someone capable of passing downfield consistently. 96 yards passing is high schoolish.

      Bad planning for PC. That is the game that you bring running back recruits to the game, no skill offensive types (wr's or Te's), but we screwed that up. We had top tight end talent at the game and targeted the tight end ZERO times. Now that's exciting! I like Pitt as everyone here does, but I also look at the state of the program with eyes wide open. We are mediocre. We beat a team that is terrible offensively and average defensively. They stacked the box, often with 9 in there. Can we just spread it out every once in awhile and run more than 60plays?

      On the long TD pass, if the VT defender takes the right route to the receiver, TB, would be picking up his chicklets still. He got hung out for a big hit and but for the wrong angle, he survived for the TD. Great concentration TB.

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    2. I live in the south . I Sat.and watch just about every acc game with my son all but Florida state are average . These next five games can go either way again let's play out the season see what happen . We don't have the qb that Florida state has so that the way it going to be h2p

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    3. Bertke isn't going to play this year, no doubt. But, it will be very interesting to see whether he gets first team snaps in the spring. He's 6'6", was universally said to have the strongest arm at fall camp, and he's Chryst's only QB on the roster. It's smart to adjust the offense to Voytik's strengths now because he gives us the best chance to win today. But, we don't need a QB who can run - we have an awesome stable of RBs to do that for us. A QB in Chryst's system is and must be a pass first guy. Voytik is not, look for Bertke to push for the starting spot this spring. I'd be amazed if Chryst doesn't say the QB spot is open competition this spring.

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  17. Pitt will finish 6-6 play in some god foresaken bowl and we will wallow in mediocrity.

    This team does not have a QB on its roster, Voytik and Anderson are not the future. The freshman has this year to learn, next year another QB competition but the schedule gets more difficult. I am very disappointed in how we have recruited and developed QB's under Paul Chryst who is touted as an offensive guru.

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  18. Thanks for the heads up there. Swami !

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  19. Paul Chryst is at the Central Catholic v Pine-richland fame - just saw him on TV. I know he wants Petrishen and 2016 Hamlin, anyone else on these two teams he's interested in Chris?

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    1. LB Ron George for Central but he's hurt. I always wish that he took a flyer on Ben DiNucci as a second QB in this class but his desperation for QBs is not the same as the rest of us apparently.

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    2. Is it too late to get Dinucci? He looks like somebody to take a chance on to me too. Any chance he gets a preferred walk on spot? Chryst likes using those.

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    3. I doubt that he'd leave an Ivy League education to be a preferred walk-on.

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    4. Well, I'm sure it helps that either way he's not getting a scholarship for football. If he can get in to Penn he's probably getting an academic full ride to Pitt so that can't hurt out chances. I watched Repischak from Upper St. Clair and DiNucci over the last three years and DiNucci is not better than Repischak. I'd love to have DiNucci walk on, but lets not kid ourselves, he's not a P5 talent. Repischak has a better chance of contributing than DiNucci does. Either way we're talking about 5th year back ups not difference makers.

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    5. DiNucci is better and Pitt should have brought in a second QB like him. Chryst's QB recruiting is suspect.

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  20. Chris,

    Seems I may have been wrong about TJ Clemmings. Last year I called him the MOST CONSISTENT Offensive Lineman and projected him as a future NFL Draft Pick.... probably THIRD ROUND.

    ESPN Draft Analyst Todd McShay apparently sees it a bit differently.

    “Pitt OT TJ Clemmings most improved player in 1-yr I've ever seen. Former DL thrust into OT role 2013. Now plays like 1-2 rd pk.” - Todd McShay

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    1. Yeah... that 3rd TD run of Conner, Clemmings drove big daddy out to general robinson st.

      I think he was affected by that stinger in the BC game. Hopefully he's over that ... appears he is.

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  21. Fraud Graham, Arizona State ranked 15th today.
    Rich Rod, Arizona at 16.
    Holgy, WVU at 25.

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    1. And your point is what exactly?

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    2. It's depressing to say the least. Pitt can't beat Akron at home and we have to watch WVU knock off the 4th ranked team in the country. Certainly not a good time to be a Pitt fan.

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    3. It's always better to be a Pitt fan. I'll take an embarrassing loss on the football field over the students behaving like the WVU kids do every single time they win something. The sports announcers were making jokes about couch fires on air during the 4th quarter - that's how awful WVU's reputation is. They can have their win, our losses are lot less shameful than their students.

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    4. Oh come on, yes they were acting like clowns but oakland was the same way after the steelers won the super bowl. Pitt just never wins a big game to see how the students would react.

      When is Pitt's last home win against a top 5 team? Anyone?

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    5. There's nothing wrong with celebrating a great win but being destructive in celebration is not a good thing in any sport .

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    6. @ Anon 7:57

      You're crazy. Oakland never created the destruction that Morgantown witnesses time and again after a big win.

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    7. They flipped a car over, pushed over every mailbox, and did vandalism. Just no fire.

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    8. When was Pitt's last big home win against a top 5 opponent? I'd like to know.

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    9. When Pitt beat WVU 13-9 in 2007, WVU was ranked #2 in the AP poll, and #1 in the coaches poll. While it wasn't at home, it was a huge win for Pitt, and I don't recall any significant incidents involving the students.

      A couch was burned, but that was to mock the Hoopies tradition of doing that. I don't think there's even a comparision between the reactions in Morgantown and Oakland.

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    10. Was anyone there after the super bowl? A car got turned over and that wasn't even pitt winning. People are idiots everywhere.

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    11. There are idiots everywhere, but there's a greater concentration of them in Morgantown. The discussion has been about fan reactions after college games, not Super Bowls.

      I'm sure there are knuckleheads at Pitt, but the yokels at WVU are much worse than any Pitt fans.

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  22. If you have to ask him when is the last time They played a top-five team then then you obviously are not a Pitt fan our alumni we didn't not act in violence when we beat West Virginia when they were in that top five at West Virginia you remember that

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    1. At HOME, I don't care what the fans do, I actually just want to know.

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    2. Who cares if it was at home or on the road? Pitt last beat a top 5 team in 2007.

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    3. What's your point excuses for people be in morons?

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    4. I actually just want to know. You must not care about home games

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    5. How about this you can go to the university to Pittsburgh Panthers archives and find out how many games they have one versus top five teams at home and will be four times what West Virginia has done

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    6. James Conner, you hit the nail on the with your 10/21 1:28 am post. He's not a Pitt fan, though he professes to be. He's a troll who for some strange reason derives some pleasure by coming on here and baiting actual Pitt fans.

      The only times he'll say something positive is when he's called on the carpet for his incessant negative posts, and then it's usually some minor compliment buried among a negative rant.

      Now we can expect a post from him professing that he really is a Pitt fan. Don't believe it, because despite his claim to root for Pitt, he's a troll.

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  23. Dokish, how good is Central Valley QB Blake Levengood? He's only 5'10 so he seems way to small to play QB for Chryst. Is he next year's best WPIAL QB? From what I can tell, the PA QB cupboard is pretty bare outside of McIlwain. Any idea who Chryst is targeting for next year?

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    1. Two 2016 kids i'd keep a close eye on are Noah Benton from Martinsburg PA in little Blair County and Tom Garlick of Arch Bishop Wood. I'm not a scout, but they both look solid. Neither has a ranking as far as I can tell.

      As far as I can tell though, Chryst is really after a 2016 kid named Nate Stanley from Menominee, WI.

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  24. Script Pity is back!!

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  25. Yeah. Pity poor Pitt. 5 fumbles in less than a quarter. Connor slowed down before his fumble. Deserved that fumble. No excuses.

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  26. I sure hope the recruits that were at the Pitt game and PSU game don't base it on game day atmosphere. Today was worse I've seen since before Walt.

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  27. What a totally predictable game...Pitt generates some buzz by bringing back the script, then plays one of the worst quarters in Pitt history, and ends up getting trounced.

    This program is at best stuck in mediocrity, and will remain there until major changes are made. If the program doesn't improve greatly next year, Chryst will be gone and rightfully so. This program has shown no improvement since he was hired.

    Chryst seems like a decent man, but I think he's more suited to being a coordinator than a head coach. He doesn't exhibit any emotion, and not that you want a raving lunatic, but sometimes you need to show some fire and passion.

    The AD needs to go as well. There is absolutely no faith in him making another football hire, so why is he still here?

    What we have now is what Pitt football will be until the university commits to a winning program. We need a dynamic head coach, who can recruit and coach. Until Pitt is willing to hire such a person, this will be a mediocre program, at best.

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    1. Well said. And they don't need my support (money) to remain mediocre. I'm checking out.

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  28. Besides the terrible coaching hires, Pederson needs to go for the terrible decision to have Pitt play at Heinz Field. How great is it to see tens of thousands of empty yellow seats. Nice move.

    This program needs an on-campus stadium of about 40,000-45,000 seats to help create a better college atmosphere. Heinz Field is way too big for Pitt, and there is just no atmosphere there. It should only be used for a marquee type game, such as Notre Dame, PSU, etc.

    This program is so far off the mark on so many fronts, it'll take a complete overhaul to ever make it respectable.

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  29. What happen to my post of PC 4&3at 43??

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  30. A team takes on the coach personality and things happen so when you are trying to get back in a game and you got the mo y would you punt with 2 min in half and in there side of field wow let play to not lose by to much lol coach grow a pair

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  31. I hate to say this but Anonymous who Posed at 12:15 PM. There wasn't an atmosphere at Pitt Stadium either. I went to a game. In fact the next to last game at old Pitt Stadium and it said there was 30,000 fans there but they were lucky if there were 15-20 thousand people there. Pittsburgh is a pro sports town. Pitt has to win in order to get people in the seats. The Steelers are a better product of football. Pitt simply needs to but a better team on the field to draw fans. It's just the way it is folks.

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    1. I attended many games at Pitt Stadium, and also at Heinz Field, and Pitt Stadium was much better, in my opinion. It was much easier to see the field, and it actually felt like a college atmosphere. Heinz Field is a sterile environment that is much too big for Pitt.

      I'm not just talking about attendance, but about creating a better college atmosphere. Pitt will draw better if it wins, but in a professional sports city, it'll never be a huge draw. Creating a better experience will help this program, even if it doesn't translate into huge attendance numbers.

      Look at PNC Park as compared to Three Rivers Stadium. PNC is a much smaller venue than Three Rivers, and the atmosphere is much better. PNC has done a lot to help the Pirates, because despite being much smaller, it has created a great viewing experience.

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