Wednesday, January 28, 2015

NCAA tournament wins since Jamie Dixon has coached Pitt

North Carolina 29
Florida 26
Kansas 26
UConn 26
Kentucky 24
Duke 23
Louisville 23
Michigan State 23
UCLA 17
Wisconsin 17
Memphis 16
Syracuse 15
Arizona 14
Butler 14
Villanova 13
Xavier 13
Pittsburgh 12
Ohio State 12
Texas 12
West Virginia 12
Gonzaga 11
Tennessee 11
Illinois 10
Michigan 10
Marquette 9
Baylor 8
Georgetown 8
Purdue 8
VCU 8
Washington 8
Georgia Tech 7
North Carolina State 7
Oklahoma State 7
Wichita State 7
Indiana 6
Kansas State 6
Oregon 6
Texas A&M 6
Boston College 5
Cincinnati 5
George Mason 5
Iowa State 5
LSU 5
Maryland 5
Oklahoma 5
San Diego State 5
Stanford 5
Vanderbilt 5
Alabama 4
Brigham Young 4
Dayton 4
Missouri 4
Wake Forest 4
Florida State 3
Miami 3
Mississippi State 3
UNLV 3
Southern Cal 3
Texas Tech 3
Virginia 3
Washington State 3
California 2
Notre Dame 2
South Florida 2
Temple 2
Utah 2
Arizona State 1
Arkansas 1
Clemson 1
DePaul 1
Minnesota 1
Mississippi 1
Seton Hall 1
Virginia Tech 1
Auburn 0
Georgia 0
Iowa 0
Nebraska 0
Northwestern 0
Oregon State 0
Penn State 0
Providence 0
Rutgers 0
South Carolina 0
SMU 0
St. John's 0


Only 16 schools have had more tournament wins than Pitt while Dixon has been the coach.

There are 351 Division 1 basketball teams. Dixon has won more NCAA tournament games than 95.4% of Division 1 basketball teams.

Dixon has won as many NCAA tournament games as 22 schools from the the ACC, Atlantic 10, Big East, Big 10, Pac-12, Big 12, and SEC combined.

103 comments:

  1. You are wasting your time.

    When a certain belief is embedded into the brain cells of the common yinzer, no empirical evidence will change their minds.

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  2. Will done Chris . I have been on Jamie this year . But if the powers to be we're not so cheap . Jamie would not have to get new coaches every year. That not good for recruiting. The top coaches have Coaches for 20 year or more or they move on to head coach .jamie coaching turnover last 5 year has Hurt them.

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  3. His team this year has no shooter (thanks Durand!), no leader (sorry JRob), and no heart (JAMIEEEEEEE what the heck!!!!!).

    It'd be nice if Gallagher decided to pony up some more cash for basketball too. Need some top assistants who will stick around and recruit. They've been faltering for 3-4 years on recruiting now although maybe that is finally being turned around.

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  4. I've been in sports long enough to know you can swing stats in your favor. Case in point: Pitt has won three tournament games in their last 5 years! In three years prior they won a total of six tournament games. Unfortunately sports are a "what have you done for me lately" business and Pitt Bball just hasn't gotten it done.

    This falls of Dixon for his recruiting. He knew Adams was a potential one-and-done, and recruited Uchebo who was a serious injury risk. Now, most guys are playing outside their natural positions. This is the classic case of a coach not identifying future weaknesses.

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    1. How that can be swinging stats is beyond me. It's as straightforward as you can get. And many coaches better than Dixon has had similar bad stretches. After Billy Donovan won back to back championships he went to back to back NITs then lost in the first round of the NCAAs. It happens to the best of them.

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    2. I'm just saying that even bad teams can look good from time to time through stats. If you don't think Pitt basketball has regressed in the last five years than you are just a homer.

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    3. And if you don't realize that Pitt was the No. 1 team in the country at one point in that time so I guess that makes you one of these self-loathing Pitt fans that complain about things for no reason.

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    4. Chris, there were in fact a number 1 seed but were abject failures in the tournament. Again. The committee gave them an incredibly easy road to the final 4 in 2011 and they blew it in the second round. That whole fiasco is nothing to be proud of.

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    5. There's no denying that. But how many teams would kill to even be a No. 1 seed? This is the point. Instead of the fans being happy that they're better than 95% of the other teams, they complain that 5% of the teams that are better. That's demented.

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    6. Chris,

      Are you new here?

      'pghFred

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    7. While I'm not trying to run Jamie out of town anytime soon, I'd say that comparing him to Billy Donovan is a little absurd. Sorry, but when you win National Championships, its a little more tolerable to miss the tournament the next year than it is if you lost to a lower seed in the first or second round (Dixon). We should probably stratify that population to not include National Championship winners since winning a championship and subsequently missing the tourney isn't the same as winning one first round game then missing the championship...

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    8. It drives me crazy when people completely miss the point no matter how obvious it is. The point was never that Dixon is Donovan's equal. Nowhere did I even come close to saying that. I said that if more accomplished coaches like Donovan can struggle for a time than it's not crazy to see it happening to Dixon too. That's very different.

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    9. I know it wasn't your point that Donovan's an equal of Dixon, but your point was that missing the tournament or having blunder years should be tolerated (because it happens to the best of them) While I certainly agree with that, its also a ridiculous notion to suggest that those tolerance levels should be the same for those two coaches. I just don't think you can point to Dixons blunders and say well hey look, Coach K has bad seasons or Coach Pitino has bad seasons. They've earned that right to have bad seasons. Has Dixon? I think that is what's much more of a debate. A prime example is Roy Williams at UNC. They've had some pretty bad teams but of course, that can be tolerated because he wins NCs. I'm not saying Jamie should be expected to win NC's, but I can understand why people get frustrated with his seemingly inability to even once really take this team where they should be. Number 1 seeds are great, don't get me wrong. I'd take our pattern of being a number one seed over a lot of other worse things that can happen. But - when you're a certain seed, so many times, be it 1, 4, 8, what have you, you should produce, more often than not, results that indicate your seeding. Which, more often than not, Jamie has failed to do.

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    10. It has nothing to do with the right to have bad seasons. It has to do with the reality that every coach has bad seasons, or even bad stretches of seasons. But that delusional 10% of the Pitt fan base can never see that for some crazy reason.

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    11. Of course it has to do with tolerance of bad seasons though!! I'm not saying people shouldn't be tolerant of Jamie's, since otherwise he's been very successful, however there's no doubt that the occasional bad season from a coach is way less annoying when he's producing championships!

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  5. The basketball program was not handcuffed at all on the money side.. football was a bit and now they already on par but the basketball program has not had budget contraints. The bball program has been trending in the wrong direction for years now. I think we are 5 and 20 in our last 25 games vs ranked opponents I read. PITT has a lot to offer in a great basketball conference with great facilities... hell.. the recruits these days are so young all they remember is Pitt being relevant. . So no excuses....we have a lot to offer and this will be 5 straight years finishing outside of the top 25... If we are garbage again next year.. with a new ad and chancellor.. the seat will get warm... his end of the game coaching blunders have been pretty bad lately... he needs to live up to that contract.. not micromanage so much and let the kids play.. the atmosphere at Pete gets worse each year... next year is huge for dixon... they better be a factor next year and I think we will be much better.

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    1. Saying Pitt has been garbage may be the dumbest thing I've resd lately and unfortunately I've been reading a lot of dumb things concerning Pitf lately. They finished 1st in the BE, and 4th and 5th in the ACC in that timespan. Please tell me that you're just purposely trying to instigate me.

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    2. Saw on your twitter you took this as garbage last 5 years... you took that wrong... I am saying they are this year... not last 5 years.. sorry for misunderstanding... although cbi year we were pretty bad..I think this team is worse

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  6. What has hurt Dixon isn'tthe recent turnover in coaches, it's the failed recruting classes of guys like Ashton Gibbs and Dante Taylor. Pitt's program is built on having at least 2-3 kids each year that have been in the program for at least three years and have worked their way into the rotation. This worked for them for years and you didn't see a lot freshman playing because they usually redshirted and hung out in the weight room their first year, and saw limited minutes the next 1-2 years.

    Having poor recruiting classes 4-5 years ago and then losing Adams after one year killed this team's depth, which is why you're seeing a kid like Cam Wright being counted on for so much because he's the only senior and he's not capable of doing much.

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  7. By the time these sophmores are seniors we should be ranked in the top 5 in the country. After the graduate who knows

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  8. It's not hard to understand the point: on a strictly statistical basis, and measured purely by past performance, Pitt has had a fine program.

    But that only applies up to a point: fans by their nature deal in passion and perception, not just dry statistical measurement.

    So the *perception* is that Pitt has failed at tournament time, falling to lower seeds, that they are failing to recruit well, that they can't or won't play an athletic, shot-oriented game, that Jamie-ball is dull and too tightly controlled and thus doesn't attract elite recruits

    I would submit that while a lot of the above is subjective or riding on perception, its also quite relevant. It's not realistic to assume that fans can sustain their passion based on what has happened in years past.

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    1. Dude, I have followed Pitt hoops since the 1960's From the Bob Timmons
      era through the great years of Buzz Ridl....the ups and downs of Dr Roy Chipman.....through the highs &lows of Paul Evans ,,,,etc tp Ben Howland....and Jaime Dixon is BY FAR and away the best head coach of them all - a lot of you folks do not even KNOW college hoops,,

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    2. But that is when we played at the Fieldhouse and didn't make the investment into basketball.
      Dixon is in Top 25 in pay.
      Pitt basketball facilities are probably in the Top 25
      Ergo, results the past 5 years have sucked. Pin it on recruiting and who's fault is that? Dixon!

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  9. Dixon has two options. He can either get rid of his useless staff that fails to recruit anyone or he can leave. He peaked in the elite 8 season and really doesn't have anyone of note on this team. It's not like football where almost everyone takes years to develop. Currently, they don't have a single player who would start for any of the top 25 teams. Their shooting range is 3 feet, and very few players show heart. The past is just that.

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  10. The past four years seem to represent a troubling trend for Pitt basketball. The past They made the tourney last year, but people seem to forget this was a bubble team heading into the final game against Clemson. That coupled with this season gives fans reason to be alarmed. This program has gone down since being the one seed in 2011. The part I don't get in all this is the extension. He had a very fair deal at the time and there was no need to give him an extension of that magnitude. All this contract does is handcuff Pitt should this losing trend continue.

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  11. The next 2 years will determine Jamie's fate as an elite coach or one who has peaked and trending down and is close to being fired. If we make the tourney next year, Nix comes in and fixes the center position and Durand provides the outside shot we need, great. Pitt should make the tournament. After that, 2017 should be the big year for this program with all of these current sophomores entering their senior year. An elite 8 is quite possible if things break right. But if Nix bombs, Artis/Young/Jeter fail or leave Pitt for some reason (grades, injury, draft for Young next yr) Pitt will be in the same hole they are in now.
    We will see if recruiting is able to get better to help replace talent when a kid doesn't make it 4-5 years in the program. You would hope that with Dixon's resume he would be able to attract better talent over time just because of his past success and being a household name in a good way. Recently that has not happened. pghfan1992

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    1. Well said though I will add that there will be 3 or 4 other players to be determined and a center or two will be one of them. So it may not come down to just Nix at the 5.

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  12. Quite an easy formula for everything to be peachy:

    Seniors Mike Young, Jamel Artis + Point Guard who is a splice of Newkirk and Robinson + Decent Center = back to a high NCAA seed / top 3 ACC or so.

    Look at Virginia's success --- Pitt isn't thaaaat far away. Just, everyone knows ----- Uchebo (it's called giving a physical lol, tap the knees with the gavel yikes), Randall (taking in transfers from Rutgers? And no wonder their coach was so angry all the time haha) , Haughton (Desperation scholarship??)

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  13. Chris, is Haughton really that bad? Does he even play next year? What is up with him?

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  14. Pitt isnt living up to expectations. Be realistic here. These are expectations that Dixon and pitt created for themselves by playing at such a high level and winning so much consistently. I compare pitt hoops to oregon football. At their best theyre really really good but never quite good enough in the post season. And the past 4 seasons pitt is just not as good as they were. If you argue that then youre hopeless.

    Dixon deserves a chance to right the ship (that he turned in the wrong direction btw) but that does not mean that we have to sit here and just be thrilled to be mediocre for the 4th year in a row when the precident for success was set by this same head coach.

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    1. That's the problem. Too many people think being 4th in the Big East and 5th in the ACC is mediocrity. It's an amazing amount of delusion when just about every program in the country would kill for that. News flash: it's not written in the stars that it's Pitt's destiny to win 30 games every year and be a top seed. Be thankful that that amazing thing even happened in the first place. It's nearly impossible to get to that level but it's not good enough for some people. Talk about being ungrateful.

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    2. It is completely rational and reasonable for fans to want their program to take the next step after a consistent level of success let alone to regress. Pitts been (sort of) beating up on bottom feeders for the past few years. They are 5-20 in their last 25 games vs the top 25. Half of their losses at the Pete have come in just the past few seasons. Are fans supposed to just say, "oh we had our run. Fun while it lasted."?

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    3. To a certain extent of course it's natural to want to take the next step. I want it too. But people need to be realistic, too.

      And I've said this many times but for some reason nobody wants to hear it. Better programs than Pitt had 3 or 4 year slumps. It happens. The truth is, Pitt will be better next year and even better the year after that. But for some reason the fans are jumping off the bandwagon in droves. Jeez, they were ranked No. 1 just four years. They made the NCAA tournament the last two years. Big time programs like Florida, Syracuse, and UConn missed the tournament completely sometimes. You can't be great every year. But when your "bad years" include going to the tournament twice you should consider yourself pretty lucky. Dixon went to as many tournaments as 22 major conference TEAMS combined. It's not Pitt's destiny to be a top 10 team every year despite how many Pitt fans thinks it is.

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    4. Isn't it funny that pitt b-ball fans won't accept mediocre play for a couple seasons but were fine with football being mediocre for 30 years.

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    5. Im not jumping off the bandwagon. Like I said Dixon deserves the chance to get them back to a top level and i agree that the next two teams will be much better. I just think that Jamie got away from the types of players that got him his success at pitt or at the very least the players he did get did not develop at all like he thought. In a program that relies on upperclassmen two consecutive poor recruiting years means a 4 year slump.

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    6. I don't think anyone has been 'fine' with the past 30 years of Pitt football.

      pghFred

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  15. I don't have twitter so I'll address a few things here. First, you made a comment about knowing adams was leaving. Frankly adams didn't know he was going to go until the talk of money became too great. He knew he wasn't ready and didn't want to leave...this comes from a first hand source who coached him and still talks to him daily. I think that the issue with the program is that it doesn't seem to have an identity anymore. Dixon is a great coach who had had success developing tough kids. The switch to the acc emptied out the roster and you have a watered down team who is young and doesn't do the typical pitt things ....defense, rebounding, no turn overs. Part of that comes from the uptempo acc, some from having so many guys leave aND being young and some comes from dixon really screwing up in recruiting. I think he is a great coach, but the program seems lost right now...not just because of the team this year, but you don't have a major improvement coming next year unless you get a guy like diallo who I don't see coming. I think he can make them respectable in 3 or 4 years, but he needs to either go all in and rebuild with heart or go after talent and change the philosophy of the team.

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    1. There is a 100% chance that Adams was going. I said it all year but nobody wanted to hear it. I was the first to find out about Adams and I was the first to interview him, his coach, and his brother. The coach called me from New Zealand. The coach and the brother told me flat out that they needed him to get to the NBA as soon as possible. Dixon flat out said publicly that he knew that Adams would not be staying. Adams could have said he was staying all he wanted, but I can guarantee you that everybody around him knew he was going, including Dixon. But Dixon thinks he can make everybody a player and he just assumed foolishly that he could just bring in the next guy and nothing would be missed. Well he was wrong.

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    2. I have no doubt that his brother and rest of the family speculated that....he needed the money. That being said, he genuinely wanted to stay in college. He was raw coming in and didn't think he would go as high as he was being speculated at so he had to go. But don't say he 100 percent knew he was leaving that is not true. You do have a point that dixon didn't prepare, and he should have no matter what.

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    3. I didn't say he knew. I said it didn't matter what he wanted. He said he wanted to say and then literally the next day he was told that his family needed the money and he will go to the NBA. That's a fact. He never had a choice and it was like that form the beginning.

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  16. Chris I agree with your general point, but I think you misunderstand what fans want from a basketball program. If you asked any fan base whether they would rather win 4 straight conference titles but lose each year in the first round of the tournament or never finish the regular season better than 5th in the conference but make the Final 4 they'd chose the latter every single time.

    In football, the regular season matters. The conference titles matter, The wins matter. No so in hoops. In basketball the regular season is irrelevant, it's only value is seeding and preparing you to succeed in the tournament. If you fail to make the second weekend of the tournament, your season is a best a wash. No matter you achieved in the regular season.

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    1. The point you are all missing is that most schools don't even make it into the first round enough to lose. Some of you keep comparing yourselves to North Carolina, Duke, and Louisville. You are not that and you will never be that. What you are is a school that's better than 95% of the programs and most people would kill that. But instead of being happy to be better than 95% of the programs out there Pitt fans complain about not being better than the other 5%. It's ludicrous. Some of you don't get how lucky you are. Pitt does not have elite local talent or a long history of greatness. The fact this program is as good as it is is considered a miracle by people inside college basketball.

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    2. So you are telling me the major programs have abundance of talent in their backyard? Listen I'm a big dixon fan, but this program was built on decent kids playing hard sound basketball and staying to graduate. They had very few one or two and dones. They also had very easy non conf. Schedules that boosted the victory total and allowed the team to mesh well by the time they hit the big East. I'm not knocking dixon....he has done an amazing job with this program, but you are bringing on more criticsm with this man crush you are displaying rather than holding his feet to the fire like you did with pc. Dicon made his bed. His team looks bad and it's hard to watch. He needs to fix it. Your said yourself why offer cook and then not really go aftrr him. I think people are very worried that they won't add much to this class and then heron moves on even though he said he won't. Remember young was rumored to transfer also. This has been building for a couple of years now.

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    3. I've criticized Dixon when he needs criticized. Criticizing him for not being North Carolina or Duke is ridiculous. Tweet any nationally known basketball guy. Any of them. Tell them what you're telling me. See what they say. Maybe they have the same man crush. By the way, the worst argument ever is the one that Dixon got his wins against a weak schedule. He had the best conference record in the Big East when he was there. That's a fact. Sounds like a real loser coach to me.

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  17. I think part of the problem is that it's difficult to appreciate the sustained success of making the tournament when nearly every season ended in major disappointment. If Pitt had ever come in as a lower seeded team and pulled a couple upsets, those seasons would be looked upon more fondly. However, it's difficult to look back with good memories of just making the tourney every year when every season I try to recall seems to be defined by the disappointing upset loss that ended it. Your stats on NCAA wins are valid, and they suggest Dixon deserves the benefit of the doubt, but it's hard to get past the overall "feel" of those tourney runs, where they never beat a higher seeded team and nearly every loss was a disappointing and surprising upset. It makes it seem like Dixon accomplished less than he did, and this year's team just compounds it.

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  18. There seems to be a lot of buzz going on in recruiting tonight... have any insight.
    looks like the Panthers are no longer offering Bembry or Gipson, Kenyatta anderson is waiting for an offer still... Something big is going to happen but no one can tell???
    Have we been holding on to scholarships for a reason and there is hope we get a real game changer? Is the news related to next season.... seems like Hamlin, Pugh, and many others seem like Pitt has a good chance.

    Lets quit the debbie downer with Pitt basketball and give us something to be happy about.

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  19. Pitt BB is certainly trending downward and Jamie is now victim of not meeting the expectations that he had raised.

    He certainly deserves to coach at least two more years when all of his current talenetd underclassmen become upperclassmen. If there is little or no improvement by then, then one would have to think that he has lost it.

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  20. Pitt will never be Duke, North Carolina, Kansas......

    But actually I regress because I see a UCLA playing-in-the-muck the last few seasons, I see UCONN winning two national championships the last decade. No need to cop-out and create "woe-is-me", self-fulfilling prophecy that Pitt somehow "can't be elite" mindset.

    And remember Syracuse with Boeheim, a team Pitt has gone toe-to-toe with for decades only won one NC with their coach --- because over 10 years ago they had this one transcendent college player.....Jello? oh, Carmello Anthony sorry lol but it literally takes one year to make magic.

    Pitt fans AND 'Brass' should not settle for mediocrity for one second. Tearing down the Pitt Stadium and investing in the Peterson Events Center sealed-the-deal that Pitt was committing to basketball.

    Dixon should frankly have won the National Championship in 2010-2011 with that #1 team (Butler vs. UCONN in the worst, most boring NC game ever, in history). The entire NCAA bracket was weak (against Butler -----Nasir why did you hack on that foul shot!!! Gilbert Brown, jeeeeez be a darn hero, hit the foul shot and win the game did Darth Vadar choke-you from the stands?!!) . Pitt had a golden shot with every team weak, and Dixon did "blow-it" that year. Urg, UCONN won the title :((

    Dixon wins that title, then yes, Pitt is "up there" with North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, Louisville. We don't have to rationalize and make excuses then that we are on the outside of the "imaginary-elite-bubble".

    This year's team is just a really bad down year. Dixon will learn from this, it's a shock-to-the-system, because he dug himself in a hole for the first time without an obvious light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel ---- and he knows it is his responsibility.

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    1. Pitt slowly went downhill when Slice went to be HC in Manhattan.
      He came back for a year and was making inroads.

      Recruiting is the problem. Obviously.
      Dixon is a fine coach (good not great) when he had Slice recruiting.

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    2. That is quite simply not the truth. Slice left in spring of 06 and they were #1 seeds in 09 and 11. He had little impact on the 2010-11 team, if any.

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    3. Slice recruited most of the '09 team.
      And if you haven't been watching, Slice starts recruiting (watching) them as early as 9th and 10th grade including some on the '11 team.
      So, beg to differ with you.

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    4. That team was all Herrion and Knight. Rohrssen had nothing to do with it.

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    5. Your wrong Chris. Biggs, Fields, Young was ALL Slice in 2009.

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  21. I have no idea why you're talking about '09 when we are talking about '10. That's the team that was No. 1. And none of those guys were on that team.

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    1. '09 was 1 shot away from Final 4.

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    2. They were a number 1 seed in 2009 tournament chris. 2010 tournament they were a 4, and back to one in 2011.

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    3. I'm talking about the '10-'11 team.

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  22. SO! How many teams have had the same coach during this entire time. Not sure the relevancy of this. AND....most of those wins were accumulated the first 6 years.

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  23. Enough bball. It's recruiting season. So this is what it looks like to me. OK finish to this recruiting season, but since they came in late, and the d line is already bad, they won't be spectacular next season. Better on d, but wI'll see some deep plays on blitzes that just won't get there. Offense will be solid because of what's already in place. Fun season. Next year recruiting will be up slightly but maybe not the lights out year we are hoping for. A lot of kids already had ground work laid. It should be better with a full year but maybe not the big year. 2017 however it seems like the groundwork is being laid for a great recruiting year. Out early, big talent near home....could be a perfect storm.

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  24. Paul Evans got bounced for losing in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament every year - and he was hamstrung w/ having to recruit players to play in the field house which was like a high school gym.

    Dixon shouldn't get a free pass. His recruiting since the Elite 8 has been awful. Whether he lost the ability to judge prospective talent, lost the NY connection, or failed to get the right assistants to get the job done - I don't know.

    All I know... replacing Slice w/ a coach whose claim to fame is his AAU connections in Detroit reeks of Pitt administration cheap-ness. The same cheap that killed football.

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    1. A lot of posters are referring to Rohrrsen leaving the program as losing the NY connection, but he wasn't the reason that dried up. Orlando Antigua was on the staffs that had the NY pipeline, he really worked that area along with his younger brother that was coaching a Catholic school in the Bronx at the time.
      Antigua left and went to UK, which really hurt them recruiting wise.

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    2. Antigua did nothing at Pitt. Zero.

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  25. Uh Johnny...Paul Evans didn't get bounced for not advancing in the NCAA tournament - he was fired because among other things.....calling his players dumb muther f#$%^*!s constantly - ask Jerome Lane.

    But primarily, he recruited 5 players one year and they were all academic casualties.

    Pitt does not take kindly to that there stuff.

    Oh, and Barry Goheen. FOUL HIM Evans you dumb mutherf%^&*(.

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    1. He lasted 6 years after Jerome Lane. Nice try w/ your revisionist history though.

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  26. Zatiti ... wow .. what a throwback. Will never forget the Barry Goheen shot. Ouch.

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  27. I haven't given up yet on Dixon, this team or the program. I want to see wins as much as the next guy but sometimes you just get beaten. We were spoiled with the past successes and 25+ wins per year ... this is not the norm for non-UNCs, Duke's, Kansas's, Kentucky's, etc. I still think JD has done so much with so little. Sure, we've whiffed lately with some recruits and lost some transfers - BUT - all is not lost. I expect Smoke to wrestle a tough kid or two out of Michigan and when Wilson and Heron and others get in the door .. this ship will sail in the right direction. Hail to Pitt !

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    1. Wilson and Heron were Slice recruits.
      Thank goodness they stuck with their committment.

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    2. Wilson was recruited by Knight

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    3. I wasn't focusing on who recruited who ... was basically speaking about JD and what he has done. But, since someone brought it up .... any word yet on possible recruits coming in the door through Smoke ?

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  28. Chris,

    Rumor on street that UT QB Peterman is in for a visit. Possible transfer. Have you heard anything on this?

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    1. Yes, he sat with Narduzzi the entire game

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  29. That's the way to play the game. Look like the good old days . H2p

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  30. Chris, is it so that all PSU scholarship athletes will be receiving a $4600 stipend in addition to tuition and room/board in the next academic year, and presumably those to follow? Will other PA state assisted colleges and universities, such as Pitt, follow? Impact on recruitment, if any?

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    1. Pitt will also be going to a cost of attendance model with a stipend. All P5's are so there is no advantage. Except I suppose that you can probably buy who a state college for $4,600.

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  31. P5 conferences will be allowed a stipend so that cost of attendance to players and parents is effectively zero. Pitt will do what every one else does in that regard.

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  32. Wow that had to be the worst play call in the history of football lol

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  33. This year's Super Bowl did not have 1 *****(5 Star player). It's about how you develop once you're in college, not the hype you receive going in.

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    1. There's only 50 five star players a year so it's a very small percentage. That's why most players that end up as excellent players are 3 or 4 star prospects. There's a lot more of them.

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  34. QB Peterson is transferring from Tennessee. Can play this year with 2 years remaining.

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    1. It's Peterman....let's not use the other name. We just rid ourselves of one, thank goodness. Please, no reminders!!

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    2. Sorry. Freudian slip. :-)

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  35. SMH! I thought tonight bball game would be a gimmie. Glad we won! H2P I guess right?!?

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  36. Chris

    Are you concerned that Givens will flip his commitment?

    pmdH2P

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  37. Too late to be concerned. He already flipped.

    In the future--Pitt coaches should never make a commitable offer to any kid who is a PSU fan. We can't be any kids plan B while he is all the while hoping for a PSU offer if we are going to be a respectable program. with such kids just leave it at "if PSU doesn't offer you by LOI day we will take your signed LOI if we have room left."

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    1. The kids Duzz brought in for LB are better than that kid anyway. Slimeball Franklin is just picking up PA kids to pick them up for marketing purposes. He should give Dave Wannstedt a call and ask him how well that worked out for him.

      Mike W.

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    2. If we adopted this approach we wouldn't be able to adopt any quality recruits in PA. The strategy shouldn't be copulation, it should be beating PSU for recruits who started the process thinking PSU was better.

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  38. Givens follows Petrishen and Bowers and Miller to Penn State.

    Holy Chryst-Crossed, Patman... what is going on here?

    PittofDreams

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    1. I truly feel this: Based on Narduzzi's enthusiastic and passionate recruiting approach ---- if he "let guys go", and they "de-comitted" under his new watch ---- I mean no insult to the young men, but I frankly cannot believe he truly wanted them.

      I would not be surprised if he (again, not to be rude) slightly put the young men "on-the-back-burner", in a kind of situation where, "if they sign, they sign---if they don't, they don't".

      Evidence in that Jim Chaney came on-board (already with a bunch of tight end depth) and he wants "his" players, and Narduzzi recruited much more svelte , way more explosive and quick LB recruits who lacked Givens's girth, but had way more quickness and agility.

      It does go both ways here ---- yes, Players have to adjust to coaching changes and have to pick their loyalty ---- but also it's hard for coaches to withdraw and offer from a committed kid even if they don't truly want them too.

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    2. Narduzzi told Petrishen, if he changes his mind come Wednesday morning... call him and he will be received with Open Arms.

      I'm sure the same goes for the others.... all QUALITY football players recruited by Chryst.

      Think the "Pat Signal" might need a Battery Change.

      PittofDreams

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    3. The "Pat Signal" doesn't need a battery change, you just need to check your pacemaker and ensure that your Pitt heart is still working.

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    4. Funny.

      Pitt Heart just fine. Narduzzi reputation as an ACE Recruiter... a bit in question... even at this VERY early stage.

      If it were OFFENSIVE Players turning their backs... a much different story.

      PittofDreams

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    5. Jumping ship over a couple recruits that nobody went after but two teams and they committed to the last coach you sure your not a nit.

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  39. Chris is pitt # 2 with media in Pittsburgh and ps # 1 ??

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  40. The truth here is other than p state nobody going after those flips it's not like they had 8-10 D1 colleges after them or offers. Coach just got linebackers that were rated in the top 40. This is a numbers game sometimes the numbers don't add up.

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  41. I've been looking up these PSU twitter nutcases on Facebook and LinkedIn - I love that Pitt is getting trolled by PSU fans who didn't go to PSU, especially the majority that didn't go to any college at all.

    I grew in Michigan and we used to call the UofM counterparts Walmart-Wolverines. I'm not sure what the appropriate name is for PSU cultists whose only actual connection to PSU is the discount bin at dollar general but we should come up with something.

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  42. Miller was not a flip. He never committed to Pitt. Bowers and Givens were flips but they only had committed to Pitt because PSU hadn't previously offered. Because they were Chryst recruits and he left I will give them the benefit of the doubt regarding being honorable young men.

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  43. Like I said in the beginning Michigan State did not recruit in the top 25 so why would a new coach coming from Michigan State recruit in the top 25.

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    1. He will. It's easier to recruit at Pitt than Michigan State.

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  44. I come here for the great reporting on Pitt football & recruiting and the regular spin on St. Dixon.

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    1. Oh, you're one of them, Tony. A person that became a Pitt basketball fan five years and thinks they now know everything. Do me a favor and tweet any national basketball writer, and you can pick which one, and ask them if Dixon is an excellent coach. Then report back to me. And be honest.

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