Wednesday, January 21, 2015

Panthers add two on defense

The commitments are starting to pour in for the new Panthers staff today. First, Coatesville (PA) HS safety Jay Stocker gave Pat Narduzzi his commitment. The 6'2" 185 pound Stocker needs to add size, but he has excellent range and he can really hit. He is a perfect fit in Narduzzi's defense which values coverage ability and toughness in his safeties. Stocker chose Pitt over, among others, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Duke, Maryland, Virginia, Boston College, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, and Cincinnati.

Not long after Stocker's commitment, Narduzzi followed up by adding Shawn Curtis of Ronald Reagan Doral HS in Miami, FL. The 6'3" 250 pound Curtis will most likely play defensive end. His other offers include Wisconsin, Duke, Mississippi State, Illinois, and UCF.

29 comments:

  1. Wait a minute. We're not competing with Akron and Kent for recruits? What's going on here?

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  2. It's smelling of the days of yore when Major Majors rode roughshod over the hills and dales for talent. Yikes!!

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  3. Pretty exciting stuff to say the least. Imagine what this staff can do when they have a full season of recruiting instead of 2-3 weeks. Hopefully a top-25 class is in order next year.

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  4. Per th email on twitter yesterday, Chaney was in W. Michigan. It has now come out that he was meeting with Tyree Jackson, QB from Muskegon. 247 switched their prediction from His current commit to Buffalo to Pitt as well. 6'5 210 4 year starter but low level FBS offers. His hudl video is impressive though.

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    1. I agree that his video is impressive. Although, assuming Dinucci flips to pitt id rather the staff take another linebacker or defensive lineman than a second big project at qb

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    2. Yeah my guess is that they will only take one of these guys, and it doesn't sound like Jackson received an offer from Pitt. If i had to guess, I think Pitt is waiting to see if DiNucci commits at his Official this weekend, and if not they offer Jackson. But they won't take both.

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  5. Both guys have offers from Wisky. Do we know if those offers were from old staff or from PC? If they are from old staff then it's good to know that other top staffs thought these guys could play at top level. If offers are from PC staff, it's good to know these guys want to come to Pitt and play for Nard-dog.

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    1. I think PC offered Stocker, if his staff were still here it's doubtful he's coming to Pitt. I highly doubt they offered the Florida kid.

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  6. "Jackson is a functioning QB that should help a mid-major or FCS school after he becomes a bit stronger and more polished."

    Obviously rankings can be off, but I wouldn't get my hopes up that he'll do anything. I'd rather just get Dinucci and use Jackson's scholarship elsewhere.

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    1. Both QB prospects are essentially garbage recruits for a P5 from a rankings perspective. That's all that's left this late in the game. Neither is going to be an impact guy. But we shouldn't expect to see either on the field for 3 years if ever, so taking a risk on either or both isn't a problem. We already know of multiple players leaving and if Duzz needs another 'ship there's plenty of dead weight he can ask to leave.

      QBs and OL are universally considered the hardest positions to project so you just never know for sure.

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    2. I would take a slightly wider view. You have 2 Qbs with prototypical size, Jackson at 6'4" Dinucci at 6'3", who are record setting QBs in their respective states, at high classifications, who have some flaws, that may be fixable. I like what I see from both.

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  7. Dinucci hasn't committed so maybe he may stick with Penn and this guy is being recruited as plan 1A? They do need a QB in this class and neither has committed yet.

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    1. DiNucci is making official visit on Saturday. Honestly I'd be surprised if he commtis to Pitt; a full ride to an Ivy League school where he knows he'll play at some point vs. full ride to Pitt, while a great school is not on par with the Ivy League, and uncertain if he'll ever play, I'd go to Penn.

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    2. You don't get athletic scholarships in the Ivy League. He'd have to pay. And that's A LOT of money.

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    3. Penn has a huge endowment and plenty of available aid for prospective students. If Penn wants DiNucci to play football bad enough and he wants a free ride, he'll get it.

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    4. It won't be a free ride. They can help a lot but it will still cost more than going to Pitt.

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    5. I get that but what would be the point of recruiting kids to Ivy League schools if they have to pay full cost? I had some friends play DIII out of high school which is the equivalent to Ivy League in that they don't offer athletic scholarships but they still didn't pay much if anything to go to school.
      DiNucci coming to Pitt all depends on whether he'll ever have a shot at playing, period. Given his measurables and performance in Quad A, I can't see how he wouldn't get a shot to play at Pitt, because there really isn't much of anything behind Voyitk.

      Mike W,

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    6. "what would be the point of recruiting kids to Ivy League schools if they have to pay full cost?"

      Well, that's why people don't choose Ivy's over other D1 schools for starters. Second, they have an academic reputation that gets in the discussion we're having right now.

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    7. I understand that, which is why I stated at the top of this thread I stated that if he knows he's going to play at Penn, he should go there unless it's determined the kid has professional potential. I mistakenly stated full ride in regard to Penn versus Pitt.

      I also stated that given his measurables, I can't see how he wouldn't have a shot at playing at Pitt.

      Mike W.

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  8. He probably would not need to pay the full Ivy cost, however. Have a relative with Ivy offers and dad makes over 100K. Ivy school promised to find enough non-athletic aid that the cost to attend would be about half the full cost which would be make the parent's out of pocket comparable to paying your way at a "public" university.

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  9. Looks like McKee could be next to commit. This staff might add 10 guys to the commit list, and if it's McKee then that would leave seven slots left. If the staff brings in two QBs, that will make five. Filling five won't be hard, but finding the space and who leaves is what makes me interested.

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  10. Does a Bowers trip to PSU free up a spot? Nard should follow the Wanny principle, stray today gone tomorrow and not the Chryst theory of looking at all your options.

    It's an interesting debate. I would not allow a verbal commit to visit other campuses, sorry. Your word follows you in all walks of life.

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    1. He wants to explore his options, fine, but I'd pull the offer. They still have Holtz for one more year and have Orndoff as well, so they're pretty well stocked at TE for now. Duzz has established relationships in the WPIAL, pulling the offer won't hurt him with a kid from Kittaning.

      Plus if you want to explore your options with that cesspool of a university, wouldn't want you here.

      Mike W.

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    2. Absolutely not. You want to pull an offer from a WPIAL kid who's currently committed to Pitt despite other options because you're pissed to traveled two hours down the road on a Saturday? Grow up. As you rightly point out, we're well positioned with our current crop of TE's so if he does flip, no loss. If he doesn't flip, that shows that Narduzzi can beat Franklin. And most importantly, it doesn't piss of the WPIAL coaches. You want to move in to a new area and pull an offer from a kid who chose your school over a local rival and then expect those coaches, not his coach, coaches in the WPIAL, to trust your word on recruits? It would be a big mistake. We lose nothing if he flips frankly and we lose ground if we pull his offer.

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    3. I really second this. I don't comprehend pulling-away an offer with the snap of a finger because a 17-18 year old young man doesn't dedicate the next four years of his life 100% to you.

      Yeah, why should this young kid and his family / loved ones due any due-diligence whatsoever for such a tremendous commitment in their life??

      Frankly I wouldn't want to associate (or donate) to a Pitt coach who treats these young men like commodities, and kicks them to the curb for not being loyal servant-minions.

      Psh, another person trying to make a good decision for their own life?! Don't you know the entire world revolves only around me and MY PRIORITIES? yeesh.

      The real big-time, Big-Man, Big-Money attitude is knowing that your school and your coaches are so darn capable and charismatic that they will reel these young men to Pitt, even with Saban, Meyer in their ear and USC begging them to come to Sunny LA and hang with the famous dance team -- but they young men want to come to Pitt even after all of their visits.

      Other people are alive too lol, they're not all robots who live to serve the will of one Pitt fan.

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    4. Explain to me where I'm expecting this kid to serve anyone's will but his own? One lesson that kids need to learn in life is that once you make a commitment you stick to it, if not there are consequences to that. Bowers made a commitment to Pitt, If he now wants to explore his options fine, Pitt should also be free to explore their options with the scholarship they COMMITTED TO HIM, especially considering as I stated above they are pretty well stcoked at TE, it's not like the new staff needs to beg this kid to come here.


      So before we start with the condescending comments and insults which really aren't necessary when you're talking about a kid that I doubt anyone on this board even knows, try being realistic. Commitments, verbal or otherwise, have a meaning. If something has changed with this kid, fine, he can go his way and Pitt can go their own way. Part of establishing yourself as a program is not being a doormat for other programs to step on, both on and off the field.

      Mike W.

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    5. Also take into consideration Chris' previous post regarding which kids the new staff is looking at. Duzz and staff didn't lose any sleep over Hornibrook and the other kids that didn't honor their commitment to Pitt and have been pursuing and getting other kids that they want.

      Bowers should be no exception to this; if he is looking at other schools, he more than likely is not coming to Pitt, so the new staff should be free to use Bowers offer for another kid if that's what they want to do. Let's not forget that recruiting is like any other pursuit in your life, it's a two way street. If any of us received a job offer and accepted but also told our perspective new employer a week before we were to start our new job that we were looking at other options, we would more than likely no longer have that option on the table.

      Sometimes that's a hard lesson for a kid to learn, but that's reality.

      Mike W.

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    6. Wow, big shock, Bowers flipped his commitment to Pedophile State because now all of the sudden he wants to major in forestry. But I'm the bad guy that would pull the offer, you two got what you deserved.

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