Tuesday, July 21, 2015

Top 10 Prospects in PA for 2017 Class (Preseason Edition)

1.  D'Andre Swift, St. Joseph's Prep HS (Philadelphia) RB- Perfect running back size at 5'10" and 208 pounds. Short, muscular frame and elite speed and quickness makes it nearly impossible to get a good shot on him. No real weaknesses and even has great hands. His offer list is big and will get huge before long. Right now that offer list includes Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, Michigan, Michigan State, and Virginia Tech.

2.  Lamont Wade, Clairton HS (Clairton) CB- Just as excellent as Swift, and should be neck and neck as the best player in the state. May be the best cornerback prospect in the state, and that's saying something. Not big at 5'10" and 185 pounds, but he is a potential superstar with speed, athleticism, technique, hands, and toughness. Offers include Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, Ohio State, Auburn, Nebraska, UCLA, Maryland, and Virginia Tech.

3.  Paris Ford, Seton-LaSalle HS (McKees Rocks) S- Pretty slim right now at 6'0" and 175 pounds, but he's a high level athlete with the speed, athleticism, and hands to be an all-star college player. Great range with hands to match. Also a good hitter despite frame. Ed Reed centerfielder type that seems to be everywhere. Offers include Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, Auburn, and North Carolina.

4.  David Adams, Central Catholic HS (Pittsburgh) LB- The quintessential PA linebacker with smarts, toughness, and tenacity. Good athlete. Plays well against the run and the pass. Early offers include Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Nebraska, Virginia, and Virginia Tech.

5.  Josh Lugg, North Allegheny HS (Wexford) OT- Already great size at 6'6" and 290 pounds, and he has the frame to get bigger. Great feet, tenacious, and strong. He has an extremely high ceiling. Early offers include Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, Notre Dame, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Michigan State, Tennessee, and Wisconsin.

6.  Donovan Jeter, Beaver Falls Area HS (Beaver Falls) DT- Already a large 6'4" and 260 pounds on a massive frame. Can easily get up to 300 pounds if he moves inside. May also have the potential to terrorize as a rush end. Excellent basketball player who would be a high major prospect if he was taller. Early offers from Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, Michigan State, Nebraska, Tennessee, and Maryland, among others.

7.  CJ Thorpe, Central Catholic HS (Pittsburgh) OG- As of now he's 6'4" at best which means he will have to move inside to guard, but at 310 pounds he's a massive brawler that has great feet to go with the size. Could be a devastating pulling guard. Offers include Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, Auburn, Wisconsin, Tennessee, Virginia, and Maryland.

8.  Mark Webb, Archbishop Wood HS (Warminster) WR- In most other years he'd be a guaranteed top 5 prospect. Already good size at 6'2" and 195 pounds, and with that size he has the speed, athleticism, and hands to be one of the better wide receivers prospects in the east. Early offers so far include Pittsburgh, Penn State, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Rutgers.

9. Damion Barber, Harrisburg HS (Harrisburg) DE- Listed at 6'3" and 220 pounds but he looks thinner than that. Once he fills out he could be very good but he's lightning fast off the edge. Pittsburgh, Penn State, Virginia Tech, and Rutgers are among his early offers.

10. Carter Lynch, St. Joseph's Prep HS (Philadelphia) OT- A virtual unknown on the recruiting scene until this summer when he had some good showings. His 6'5" 315 pound size and strength are his best assets. He doesn't have great feet so he's pretty much stuck at right tackle but if you're looking for a mauling, tough, run blocking right tackle this is your guy.

39 comments:

  1. It won't be easy, but Pitt could land guys 2 through 6 on that list. Lose to YSU and there will be no chance it happens. Narduzzi must do what's right and play Boyd and Blair versus the Penguins. At least Boyd and Blair sits out just one game.

    How did Chryst's discipline for the YSU game work out overall? I'd say not that good. If Paul was still the coach we'd still be reading posts about what a clean-up job he still has to do, Wannstedt left the program in shambles, etc., and these are Paul’s guys!

    ReplyDelete
  2. Doing what's right sometimes means enforcing discipline. Blair did something seriously wrong. He could've possibly injured or killed himself or others. He deserves a severe punishment.

    There's more to life than just winning football games. I want Pitt to win as much as anyone, but there's a limit to everything.

    ReplyDelete
  3. Look, Blair and Boyd should play and not be suspended. Here's why. Most all of their classmates and peers, as well as coaches probably got behind the wheel of their vehicle while under the influence at some point before turning 21. Boyd and Blair just got caught. Was it stupid? No. It was life. That is what 20 year old kids do and some still do in their 30's, 40's and 50's.

    Boyd and Blair also broke the law for speeding and changing lanes without using a blinker. Ok, so what. Again I would suggest that every college student, peer, and coach has disobeyed the rules of the road in the last week or month. Boyd and Blair got caught. Stupid, no. Most people really speed as youngsters and most learn not to keep doing it because of a close call. Blair has had his wake up call.

    Drugs - not a good sign for Blair. So what's the standard here where the culture suggests that over 75% of kids under 20 have experimented with illegal drugs by the time they are 17. If this was an experiment gone bad, no suspension. He just got caught. If he has a habit, this will not have been his first issue since they get tested pretty regularly after an offense. So he has a profile to clean up a bit.

    With recruiting, I don't understand the draw of Penn State or Ohio State. For being alleged land grant institutions, they surely don't admit a diverse population to their universities. This is not a race card issue, but if I were Pitt, I would use diversity in recruiting. The majority of african americans on those two campuses, are athletes. They are being exploited and don't even know it.

    I like these recruits and believe that Pitt is on the cusp of something spectacular in football.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Fine, that's your opinion. I wholeheartedly disagree.

      You can't justify bad behavior by pointing out the possible bad behavior of others. They got caught, that's all that matters.

      Blair was traveling at almost 120 mph. That is unbelievably reckless and stupid, and potentially fatal to himself or others. Boyd's offense was stupid, but not nearly as egregious as Blair's.

      I'll be very disappointed if Coach Duzz doesn't bring the hammer down on Blair. Boyd should receive a much lighter penalty. These kids, especially Blair, must be held accountable by Pitt and learn that actions have consequences.

      Delete
  4. If you are not an athlete, what is the penalty for the student? NONE, except what the law hands out.

    If you are student athletes that's how it works. If they are athlete students, than your premise is fine. Furthers my point that these kids are athlete students, not student athletes. Every student represents the institution, some have different profiles. Why aren't you looking at the police blotter and publicly flogging all of the students who got in trouble for breaking the law? I will tell you why. They are athlete students. Accept that as the first premise and you can move to the next one.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. There is a tremendous difference between scholarship athletes and the rest of the student body, particularly football players.

      They are very high-profile people, to a degree public figures, much more so than the general student population. Their actions will get much more attention than the rest of the other students. That's part of what to expect when you're a scholarship football player, especially at a D-1 program.

      That's the deal when you're in the public eye, your actions will receive much greater scrutiny than the average person.

      Delete
    2. You can have greater scrutiny, but the punishment should be the same....unless of course you aren't a student athlete, but rather an athlete student

      Delete
    3. Anonymous versus Anonymous with a comment from Anonymous.......priceless.

      Delete
    4. It doesn't matter what label you put on them, they're still high-profile people representing the University of Pittsburgh.

      It's a privilege, not a right, to play football for Pitt. If you bring discredit to the university, Pitt should deny them that privilege.

      Delete
  5. Blair b gone. just my opinion.
    Doke, can you handicap the chances on the recruits?

    ReplyDelete
  6. These two can be punished with sprints, bear crawls, etc. Seriously, sitting out for three hours on a Saturday proves what?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The ultimate thing for a football player is to be on the field competing. Taking that away is possibly the harshest punishment that could be administered.

      Delete
    2. It worked wonders for the guys suspended for the YSU game in 2012. It does nothing to teach them a lesson. Play them and find another way to punish them.

      Delete
    3. If it doesn't teach them a lesson, then there's something wrong with the players involved.

      Any sensible person would learn from being suspended. If you don't, you've got some serious personal and character issues.

      Delete
    4. Never, ever punish a player with additional conditioning drills. Why?

      What is the goal of any S&C coach? To push the athlete as far as they can (thus maximizing the training effect) without inducing over training.

      If an athlete can do additional work without over training then you aren't working your athletes enough & they aren't at peak conditioning . If he is being worked to the maximum, more work will push him into being over trained, thus impairing his performance.

      You want to properly & effectively discipline athletes? Take away the 1 thing they care most about - playing time.

      Delete
  7. Doesn't prove anything Anonymous 8:35 but it send a message to the team:

    - Pitt is not going to put up with a player that drives 177MPH in a 55 zone stoned out on weed.

    Get him the F out of here.

    ReplyDelete
  8. where Wanny started to lose the team & program w/ roster discipline.
    gotta b careful!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Wanny never lost the team, his players let him down on the field in 2010, namely in the UConn game. There was never quit in that team, just failure to make plays when it mattered (i.e. kick return versus UConn). Wannstedt never hesitated to boot players, even productive guys like Porter and Tommie Duhart, and those others in 2010 who deserved it. Programs have player issues all the time and Pitt hit a rough patch. Firing the coach to appease the All Holy is the stupidest thing you can do.

      Delete
    2. Obviously, you weren't at the 2010 Backyard Brawl, because that team absolutely quit in that game.

      Delete
    3. Did that team quit or was just flat-out outmatched by WVU and its speed? A team who quit on its coach wouldn't have won the following week on the road. Come on now, this is Pitt we're talking about. There have been plenty of times the team ran for the exit doors and that squad didn't do it on Wannstedt.

      Delete
    4. That WVU team wasn't anything special. And Cincy team went 4-8 that season.

      If that Pitt team put the same effort in their season as they did the bowl game against Kentucky, to presumably avenge Wannstedt, they'd have won 10 games.

      As for the discipline argument, no idea how much it affected the team. Only thing I have to say is that Wannstedt made a colossal error in how he dealt with Dan Mason. It should have been a definite suspension, or no suspension. Not an indefinite suspension which translated into "until I need you really bad", which ended up being 1 quarter into the Miami game.

      Delete
  9. I beg to differ, the effort (lack thereof) vs WVU, Cincy game many time failing to show up. inmates running the asylum. starting to resemble FL ST here!

    ReplyDelete
  10. You're going to need some seedy players if you want to make the playoffs. If you want good kids who don't get into trouble, best to join the AAC because some of those schools would love to be in a P-5 conference.

    ReplyDelete
  11. To me at this point I don't see the staff doing any better recruiting wise than the last. They're making a lot of noise I don't see the end results.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Different staffs, same three-star recruits and those diamond-in-the-rough types people rave about then three years later want them pushed out.

      I sure hope this staff wins ASAP. The talent is there on offense to win 9 or 10 games. Giving coaches "time" at Pitt has never really worked out well. Narduzzi inherits a better situation than Walt, Wanny, Graham or Chryst did. Win nine or 10 games and a huge class could be had in 2017 with a strong finish in '16.

      Delete
    2. I would have some patience here. Narduzzi has a track record of identifying below the radar talent and developing them into productive players. Look at the kids he's had drafted in the first round recently and where they rated coming out of high school for proof of that.

      The previous staff was more concerned with cleaning up the program and bringing in high character kids, but that didn't exactly go all wrong on them either. Connor was a two star kid coming out of high school.

      Pitt is not Bama or any of the other high profile programs. They're middle of the pack and will get their share of high rated kids, but they're also going to have to find diamonds in the rough.

      Delete
    3. Well stated.

      Delete
  12. Boyd is out for opener.

    ReplyDelete
  13. Boyd and Blair out for the opener and back for Akron.

    ReplyDelete
  14. I don't understand how Boyd and Blair receive the same punishment, when what Blair did is far worse than what Boyd did.

    To me, Blair should've received a minimum of 3-4 games. I'm OK with Boyd getting a game, but no way should the punishments be the same.

    ReplyDelete
  15. Chris,
    What are the chances on Hudson verballing to Pitt on Saturday? I would guess that Wheeler will commit to Pitt on Monday - esp given all the DL PSU just got commitments from.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. As far as I can tell, Pitt has a chance but nobody really knows. He's been a mystery. In fact, he takes a lot of pride in being a mystery.

      Delete
  16. I'm glad the punishment was the same as it tells me Pitt is really trying to win while appearing not to at all costs though the football factory schools wouldn't have done anything to Boyd, so Pitt could have done nothing in terms fo suspension for Boyd.

    Chryst proved suspensions do nothing to build a program. All those suspensions for the YSU game in 2012 and thirty-nine games later there still was no accountability by his players and that Houston bowl game fiasco proved it.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Trying to correlate suspensions for the YSU game and the loss to Houston is tortured logic. That's about as big a non sequitur as I can think of.

      Suspensions aren't intended to build a program. They're to punish improper behavior. Letting a program get out of control by not reining in bad behavior can be a recipe for disaster.

      Blair should've received a harsher punishment than Boyd. Equal punishment for unequal behavior doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

      Delete
    2. People said Chryst was building his program with those YSU suspensions, making players accountable and 39 games later it was evident there was no accountability in the program, which is why it’s a blessing that Wisconsin took him and his staff off our plates. From game 1 to 39 it was all the same and the Chryst way was the wrong way. I’m glad the suspensions were the same for Boyd and Blair and kudos to Narduzzi for thinking about winning first and foremost. Pitt needs them for Akron to get that W hopefully.

      Delete
    3. I've not heard or read one person say that Chryst was building the program with suspensions, other than you. Holding players accountable doesn't necessarily guarantee a winning program, but it's necessary to do so.

      Again, there's no correlation between the suspensions and what happened in the Houston game. Regardless of the suspensions, Pitt was going to lose some football games. Accountability doesn't guarantee a team will win every game. To suggest there's a connection between the YSU and Houston games is an absurd statement, and shows a ridiculous overreach of logic.

      Equal punishment for unequal transgressions doesn't make sense, no matter how you try to spin it.

      Delete
    4. And you may have noticed that Penn State kicked freshman LB Daiquan Kelly off the team....it seems even in Creepy Valley there's a level of accountability.

      Delete
  17. Should be another quality class for PSU.

    ReplyDelete