Monday, March 21, 2016

Pitt Basketball Head Coach Candidates

FIRST CALL

Sean Miller, Arizona head coach- The 47-year old Miller is the only possible guaranteed slam dunk on the list, even though, like Jamie Dixon, he still hasn't made it to the Final Four. As everybody knows, Miller is a western PA native and a Pitt alum. And that emotional aspect is Pitt's only real chance to sway him because Arizona is a better program. Miller is very open to returning back east, and flirted with the Maryland job a few years ago. But the Maryland program is better than Pitt's program, too. Would he give up a better job, where, along with UCLA, he is at the best program, or go to Pitt and be at best the fourth best program behind North Carolina, Duke, and Louisville (and that's the very optimistic, absolutely best case case scenario ranking)? It will all come down to just how much he would love to coach at Pitt, and only he knows that- until you call him.


SECOND CALL

Archie Miller, Dayton head coach- Well, this is awkward. I can imagine Archie on the phone now. "Didn't you already ask my brother first?" Of course I'm joking because Archie will known that Sean is an alum so he comes first. But it's that alum angle that will also make it hard to land Archie. The 37-year old already has a good job so he's in no hurry to move on. And when he does, what connection does he really have at Pitt? Yes, he's from western PA but he didn't go to school there and was only around 12 when Sean graduated. And he hasn't been living in the Pittsburgh area for 20 years. He did go to North Carolina State, though, which is an equal program to Pitt, and they will probably fire Mark Gottfried in the next year or two. It's much more realistic that he'll wait for that job, but it doesn't hurt to at least call.


THIRD CALL

Chris Mack, Xavier head coach- At 46, he was Sean Miller's replacement, and he has been there for seven years. He did almost take the California job a few years ago, and many thought it was because he wasn't fond of the AD. Does that mean he could be had? Maybe. But it seems unlikely that it will be Pitt. Many consider Xavier an equal program to Pitt, and it's his alma mater. Sure he could want a change, maybe want to test himself in the ACC, and for that it's worth a call. Especially if he really isn't a fan of his AD. As a bonus, he's bring Bill Murray to the Pete since Murray's son, Luke, is an assistant for Mack. But Mack can, and probably would do better, if he really wanted out, so he's unlikely.


IF/WHEN THOSE ALL FAIL

Kevin Keatts, UNC-Wilmington head coach- One of the fastest rising coaches in the country, Keatts was coaching at powerhouse prep school Hargrave Military Academy just five years ago. After a short stint as Rick Pitino's assistant, and ace recruiter, at Louisville, he's spent two very successful seasons as a head coach. He's just 43, he's an ace recruiter in both his native Virginia and up the eastern seaboard, he has a great personality, and he plays a fun style of basketball. He's also be the first major head coach at Pitt to be an African American. The downside? He was at Louisville when the prostitute shenanigans were going on, and Pitt will really have to do their due diligence to make sure his name won't come up in any way.

Ben Jacobson, Northern Iowa head coach- The 45-year old North Dakota native has been at Northern Iowa for a very successful ten years, but the state of Iowa is the furthest east he's ever been as a player or coach. Of course the same could be said of Ben Howland before he came to Pitt so he could adapt. As a bonus he played at North Dakota and he wouldn't be leaving Pitt to coach there.

Brad Underwood, Stephen F. Austin head coach- Already 52, but that won't be a deal breaker. What may be a deal breaker, though, is that he's a midwestern guy that will be in demand by midwestern schools. For instance, he played at Kansas State, and that would be an ideal spot for him eventually, if he doesn't take a similar job first. But he's been at SFA for 3 years and is 89-14. If he's not already earmarked for someone else, he's worth looking into.

Bryce Drew, Valparaiso head coach- The former Valparaiso star, and former first round pick, has been the head coach at his alma mater for five years. But he has almost left a few times to schools not quite at Pitt's level. He's ready to make a move and the ACC would be a helluva move for him. From a great basketball family, his father, Homer, was the head coach at Valparaiso for many years, and his brother, Scott, is the head coach at Baylor. He is exactly what I can see Pitt wanting- talented, extremely smart, and a solid person.

Jerod Haase, UAB- The former California and Kansas player coached at Kansas and North Carolina for Roy Williams, and the last four years he's been at UAB where in his fourth year this year he won the conference and went 26-7 overall. The California native is still just 41 years old. He's somewhat that's considered to go up a level. Of course if he ever succeeds, you'd have to wonder if he'd leave for Kansas.

Dan Hurley, Rhode Island head coach- The son of great New Jersey high school coaching legend Bob Hurley, and brother of Arizona State head coach Bobby Hurley (see below), the 43-year old was actually courted a few times by Jamie Dixon to be an assistant. That was when Hurley was at New Jersey high school powerhouse St. Benedict's Prep. Instead he waited for a head coach coach, and got it at Wagner where he went 25-2 in his second year. That got him the job at Rhode Island where in his third year he improved the program to a 23-10 record. A 17-15 season followed this year, but that he's still considered an excellent candidate by many. He turned down the Rutgers job very recently, but the Pitt job is much better.

Bobby Hurley, Arizona State head coach- The former Duke legend, and former NBA player, was out of basketball for awhile until he took the job at Buffalo in 2013. After two seasons of 19-10 and 23-10, he moved on to Arizona State last year. He was only 17-15 in his lone year at the school, but he doesn't have his players yet. He's also a bit of a hothead who got thrown out of a game against Arizona this year in a very dramatic way. Money should not be a huge issue for him since he's already wealthy from his NBA days, and I can definitely see him wanting to back east and coach in the ACC.

Chris Beard, Arkansas-Little Rock head coach- This is such an off the radar sleeper that I hesitated even putting him on there, but make no mistake about it, this guy is a future star. Just 43 years old, the Texan didn't even play basketball in college, but his passion for the sport both on and off the court has made him a beloved figure everywhere he's been. He was only a coach in D-1 this year, but he was 30-5 and upset Purdue in the first round.  And this was a team that won 13 games last year.

Will Wade, Virginia Commonwealth head coach- A former VCU assistant, he came back to coach after two successful years at Chattanooga. In his first year at VCU he finished 25-11. He has future star written all over him, but VCU is a good job and he's just 33 years old. Probably too young for Pitt, plus he can afford to wait for his alma mater, Clemson.

Russell Turner, California-Irvine head coach- One of the better unknown coaches in the country, the 45-year old has been at Cal-Irvine for the last six years, and he's had 21 or more wins in each of the last four, including 25 this season. A native of Virginia (a big plus), Turner was a brilliant student that was a small college star at Hampden-Sydney, a small school in Virginia. He also was an assistant for Dave Odom at Wake Forest when the Demon Deacons were a power, and for Mike Montgomery at Stanford when they were excellent. He turned down an offer from George Mason last season.

Andy Enfield, USC head coach- The one time wunderkind of Florida Gulf Coast, the 46-year old has been at USC for three years, and turned the program around this season with a 21-12 season. He also has a fun, fast paced style that Pitt fans would love. The only reason I have him on the list is that he's from PA (Shippensburg) so maybe he will want to come back to the east and coach in the ACC. It's a long shot, but it's worth looking into.


75 comments:

  1. My preference is Bryce Drew, Will Wade or Bobby Hurley.

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    1. Bobby Hurley bio... he was assistant under his brother Danny at Wagner and Rhode Island before taking HC at Buffalo.

      I would take Bobby. He can recruit NJ and NY with ease as well as ACC.

      btw.. I've been praying for Dixon to leave for the last 2+ years. Grateful!

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  2. I'm still getting over the shock that the Jamie Dixon Era is over. I'd love to get Sean Miller. We won't get Archie Miller. And I'll settle for Keatts or Drew.

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  3. I'll take Keats if he is clean after that Louisville scandal, If not Drew from Valpo.

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  4. Let the games begin, Dixon is a good coach but I do believe the change in scenery will benefit him and Pitt.

    The administration got it right when they hired Narduzzi, yes Barnes wasn't here but Gallagher made sure they got the right guy.

    I trust this administration and feel they are going to get the right guy.

    The program just felt stagnate, and the talent level needs a bit more to compete in the upper level of the ACC.

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  5. Kevin Keatts, Bobby Hurley & Bryce Drew sound interesting if neither Miller or Chris Mack is interested. Would love to get Gregg Marshall, but I heard he just signed on to an extension.


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  6. If it's not Sean Miller - why no Gregg Marshall at Wichita State as a call?

    I'd make him the 2nd call, and Ben Howland the 3rd.

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    1. Marshall is way out of Pitt's league. He already makes a ton at Wichita State and he has turned down better jobs. And Pitt won't be looking back, which is what Howland would be.

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    2. Pitt being in the best bb conference in the country - the ACC w/ great facilities out of Marshall's league?

      How so?

      Specifically, what better jobs has Marshall turned down that were better than Pitt?

      And if Sean Miller's on your list then throwing $ around doesn't seem to be a problem.

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    3. Sean Miller went to Pitt. Marshall couldn't care less about Pitt. I know this is hard to imagine for some people, but Pitt is not at the top of the totem pole.

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    4. Pitt isn't atop the totem pole, but it's still at top 30 program. As Moody said, it has to be a pretty enticing job with the ACC, facilities and talent to work with. This actually feels a lot like the football situation prior to Narduzzi. This program has a lot going for it.

      That being said, I'd prefer an up-and-coming coach from a mid major over either Miller.

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    5. Chris you're wrong. You are thinking of PITT before the Big East and the ACC. You are selling PITT short. I live in Metro NYC and PITT basketball is a bigger deal than Wichita State. To give you an idea, I had to look up how to spell Wichita. And all the schools in the ACC are a big deal compared to the other conferences schools. Even Louisville with all the suspensions including their med school.

      The trouble with the PITT job you better not be average in your results. It is a top program now.

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    6. It's not a top program. It's not even the top 5 in the ACC. Marshall would not even take Pitt's call.

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    7. You are also wrong about Sean Miller being at a better program than PITT. Pac 10 or 12 is not the save level as the ACC. Last time I heard Tucson is a dusty, high crime redneck city. Plus they don't have the Steelers. Chris you keep selling the City of Pittsburgh short!

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    8. Now I know you're joking around.

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  7. Do we realistically have a shot at Sean Miller? What about shaka smart?

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    1. Smart is at Texas. You talk about money....(no chance)

      I did hear Zeise say on KDKA that Sean & Barnes are close friends. So who knows...

      I haven't heard Mark Few being mentioned...

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  8. Not that we need more reasons to want Sean Miller, but in addition to being the biggest name, he's the only guy with enough Pitt roots to potentially pass up a bigger job down the line.

    Lets say best case scenario, we get Archie or Mack and they come in and experience tremendous success. What would stop them from making the jump to one of the big jobs that will likely open up in the next few years? How much do you think the Pitt AD will consider this as a search criteria?

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    1. He Doc, cant have it both ways. JD was very loyal and look what we did to him. Now we take a chances and let the chips fall where they may. We will not appreciate what JD did til about 5 yrs from now.

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    2. Also, that would be the case with any coach that comes here, unless a Sean Miller takes a step back. Otherwise,any coach is a flight risk. Not necessarily a bad thing and can't let that hold u back

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    3. I think what makes me most uncomfortable about this situation is that it forces us to deal with the fact that with where this program sits on the totem pole, it's still a stepping stone job. We really lucked out that Jamie didn't head to a bigger program after having multiple opportunities.

      Regardless of who we get, there's a pretty good chance he won't be of Jamie's caliber. BTW, Sean Miller? 12 seasons, .740 win pct, 10 NCAA tourneys. Jamie, 13 seasons, .727 win pct, 11 NCAA tourneys. They've obviously trended in different directions in recent years, but we'll never know with Jamie whether that was simply a down cycle or not.

      All I'm saying is - for a decade and a half, our ONLY gripe was not making Final Fours. Maybe the fanbase prefers this, but I think we're going to have a lot more to complain about in the years to come.

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    4. Every college job is a steppingstone job. And it's possible to move up the ladder a little.

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  9. Agree with the Doctor. If Mack or Miller succeed here they will be gone in 3 years, but is that necessarily a bad thing? If they do well enough (say an elite 8 appearance while they're here) maybe that postures Pitt for another good replacement.

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  10. How about head coach Pete Bell, from Western University? Word is, he's looking to reboot his career.

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  11. I would be happy with any of the coaches you mentioned above, Chris, with preference towards Keatts, Drew, Beard, & Wade. Im not as in love with Miller as everybody else but id obviously like the hire.

    I don't think it should be a factor at all as to whether the next coach will stay a long time. If he leaves it will be for a top tier job & those dont come open often. Plus it would mean he had a ton of success here, leaving it in a better place (or at least leaving it as it is now).

    I think getting somebody that can recruit the carolinas, virginia, and maryland is of big importance as is, hopefully, someone who puts an entertaining product out there. Though, at least to me, winning is more important than any of the minute details.

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  12. Underwood to okie state

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  13. I'm not sure what Pitt wants to spend, but Kevin Ollie at UConn would be a great get.

    According to ESPN, Ollie signed a 2.8 million contract + incentaves that could push it to 3 mill. Pitt would have to up it to 3.5 to get him.

    http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10970027/kevin-ollie-signs-five-year-contract-connecticut-huskies

    Maybe the lure to the best Power 5 conference would be enough to sweeten the deal. He can't be too happy playing in the American conference.

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  14. Sean Miller is a pipedream but I respect that AD for trying

    Howland is the call

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  15. Howl and burned a lot of bridges in Pittsburgh, granted that was awhile ago but some people have long memories. Let Ben enjoy life in Starkville since Pittsburgh was a bit too subdued for him.

    My money is on S Miller, and yes this administration has a clue on what they are doing regarding choosing a head coach

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  16. Chris:

    Two questions about Sean. First, you have said consistently that Pitt couldn't touch Miller (or words to that effect), but you aren't saying that in this post. What has changed your mind? Second, do you think that the hard feelings about Sean leaving Pitt abruptly for NC State when he was an assistant to Ralph Willard (and some say sabotaging Willard's very good recruiting class that year) will be a factor for either Pitt or Miller?

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    1. Logically, as things stands now, nobody in the college basketball world thinks it's a possibility. But there's always extenuating circumstances. Is Miller happy where he is? Does he want to coach at his alma mater? Does he like Barnes so much that he wants to work with him? Will Pitt pay a lot of money? These are things that are always possible that we just don't know yet.

      As for the past at Pitt, all of those people he dealt with are retired or dead by now.

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  17. Doke:

    All three recruits for next year have signed an LOI, but I just read an article that suggests that they could walk away from that official commitment if they don't feel comfortable with the new coach. Is that true?

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    1. Technically Pitt doesn't have to release them but everybody does these days. The new coach will want his own kids anyway.

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  18. Chris - noticed you didn't mention Chris Mooney at Richmond. Thoughts?

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    1. His last five years have been mediocre.

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  19. Pitt fans are going to regret Dixon leaving. For the next two years, at the minimum, we will not be in the NCAA tournament and probably not even the NIT. First thing is the loss of this year's recruits with the new coach having no decent replacements for them. The second thing will be existing players exiting the program. Third will be the problems with the existing players not fitting into the new coach's system. Too bad Barnes and Dixon could not work out their differences. Barnes was correct in requiring changes in Jamie's staff. The draft Knight crowd is nuts if they think he is the answer. He was part of the problem!

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    1. Usually a team goes down for a few years after a coaching change but you never know. Let's say, best case scenario, Sean Miller comes and brings his two unsigned elite recruits. Pitt would actually be better next year.

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    2. Negativity is your calling card. So we were supposed to keep Dixon to prevent your so-called negative events from occurring?

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  20. Hey, Chris, what about K. Ollie at UConn? The guy's already won an NCAA title and a conference tournament championship in just 3 years>

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    1. He's a UConn alum. I doubt he will go anywhere.

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  21. ^^^^ I think mostly everyone disagrees with your analysis. This is really the perfect departure. Dixon had a good run here but he knew the program was stagnant and he understood that Pitt and himself both needed change eventually. He left a tournament team with just about everyone returning to the next coach. is it possible all 3 players want out of their letters? Sure. Will it actually happen? Probably not. Maybe one will leave but you also have to keep in mind that the new coach might have better options lined up. And as for current players leaving... Young, artis and Wilson were all questionable to come back even with Dixon as the coach. Maybe a new coach could sit down with them and convince them to stay.

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  22. What about Ed Cooley at Providence?

    1. Strong recruiter
    2. Plays an uptempo style that would be a nice change of pace (pun absolutely intended)
    3. Has done decently with little to work with at Providence
    4. Pitt hasn't had a good track record with minority hires, this could change that.

    I know he has Providence ties but Pitt would undoubtedly be an upgrade.

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    1. Let's just say that Providence is more loose who they let in.

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  23. Jerod Haase coached under Roy Williams not Larry Williams. Not an exciting game but he would be a good hire. Also if you could get Greg Marshall that would be a slam dunk (of course if Sean Miller won't come)

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  24. That Sean Miller fiasco is now pretty embarrassing. Now any coach who is hired is just a fall back option.

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    1. I thought about making a Steve Pederson joke but decided against it.
      Honestly, it's only really embarrassing if Barnes and the Pitt administration honestly thought they could get Miller. It's pretty much a given that he wasn't leaving Arizona, except for naive Pitt fans.

      Still, I expect a downgrade when it's all said and done. Dokishs list really isn't inspiring.

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    2. not really. Worked out pretty well when Prosser turned down the job last time.

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  25. Go after Will Wade. He has a strong resume already at age 33. Don't be worry about him being a Clemson grad, he didn't even play hoops and the job is a coaching graveyard since it's a football school. If Barnes misses on his second guy then I'll start worrying.

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  26. Sean Miller said no and Archie Miller said hell no. That pretty much sums up the Miller boys.

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  27. Jamie Dixon was a terrible coach get over it & pick up a guy who will push the players hard

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  28. This situation spun out of control with the fanbase, to the extent where any hire at this point will be perceived as a fall-back option.

    What's also evident, and somewhat tragic is that no one knows what is going on, and now Pitt fans and media are eating each other. It's bad enough that even Zeise says there was no job offer made, when clearly something was floated to Sean Miller; who obviously waited to listen before releasing a statement (otherwise, why delay comment - at least to let your current school know you're staying?).

    So how does Barnes deal with the fact that he has to hire someone in this context, for a job with HUGE room and potential for declining results. It's arguably better to take a dumpster fire job like BC, because you have no where to go but up. The coach hired now will have to deal with turning the tide of stagnation at the end of an era of unprecedented success, in the context of a new conference which happens to be the most competitive in the country, and has two behemoth programs with unlimited resources. Oh, and he's not Sean Miller, and has to convince a skeptical fan base that he can win at the elite level that his predecessors did.


    I'm of the opinion that Pitt went all out for Sean Miller. And this was his chance to come back a hero to his hometown. He won't get that chance again; but it's pretty clear he has no interest, and has little-to-no loyalty to Pitt, and fans should recognize that (as opposed to Brandon Knight).

    But now that Miller has declined, I'd bet the admin is savy enough to recognize that the potential returns from fans for football (stock up, room for growth -great) far outweigh that of basketball (stock even, room for growth -limited). I figure it'll be a lesser hire, that comes at a far-lower price tag than Dixon. Example: look at what Arkansas did after Nolan Richardson left.

    Jeff Goodman is a sarcastic a**hat, and his undoing will be his hubris.

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  29. I would like Gregg Marshall but if not, what about Geno Auriemma?

    Outside the box splash hire.

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  30. Auriemma would rather control females than males.

    Wade or Drew I hope.

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  31. Artis is officially leaving. Mike young and Damon Wilson are going to wait to see who's hired

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  32. Here's an incomplete (doesn't show Pitt) list of what head coaches make:

    http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

    Mark Few is making under 1.3 million. He's been to 18 straight NCAA Tournaments. And no, I don’t care if he has no East Coast ties. He could bring kids from the West Coast and assistants from the East Coast will do the rest. Double his salary and get him here. He's extremely loyal though and must love living in Spokane. Worth at least a call....I mean if Barnes called Sean...

    "Here’s what he does: wins at a higher rate than anybody in NCAA basketball (averaging 27.4 wins per season), graduates his players, hasn’t had a hint of scandal or cheating, makes his players better and raises millions of dollars for charitable causes."

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/dave-boling/article67436487.html

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  33. Nice work, Doke. Keep it coming? Please?

    IMO, Brandin Knight is completely unproven, and meets none of the criteria that Barnes mentioned as those Pitt is looking to hire. He's not an ace recruiter, has zero head coaching experience, and (far as I can tell) his best quality is a love for Pitt. All of which makes BK and me equally qualified.

    Doke, I'm guessing you feel the same way, since you didn't mention him?

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  34. Haven't seen Chris Mack on a lot of media "wish lists". Thoughts on why that's been the case?

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    1. It's a very big long shot. And probably a no shot.

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    2. Based on what you know about Brandin Knight, do you think he could become another Jamie Dixon? How would he do leading recruiting efforts? How do you think he stacks up as a tactician (his playing days at Pitt preceded me - don't know how much of his game was cerebral)? And what kind of a staff could he assemble?

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  35. Why no buzz for Wade? Being 33 shouldn't deter him from being considered since he has three years of coaching experience already. He plays uptempo, which Barnes wants.

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  36. I hope Brandon Knight is NOT given HC.
    If he want HC, he needs to put in his time at a lower level program.

    Furthermore, Brandon can't recruit. Where are all those top notch NJ/NY kids the last 5 years. It's like he gave up without even trying to land 5stars kids out of NJ/NY.

    Since 2010, only landed Mike Young and Damon Wilson, both were 4star, from NY/NJ and I'm not sure who was responsible for landing those 2.

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  37. I'm very intrigued by Russell Turner:
    - Young, but experienced
    - A native of an area Pitt needs to recruit
    - good college player
    - Was an assistant at WF and Stanford when they were good
    - Knows the ACC
    - NBA assistant experience
    - No big time program that he attended to call him back home
    - Solid resume as a head coach
    - named a top ten up and comer by CBS

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  38. I'm in Southern California this week near Irvine was in a bar with a Pitt jacket on, a few people approached me and mentioned Russ Turner to Pitt!

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    1. I admit that I don't know much about him, but I'd like to know more. Wake Forest and Tulsa were interested in him in the past. He turned down George Mason, and was listed as a primary candidate for Stanford after Johnny Dawkins was fire. He checks a lot of boxes.

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  39. Here is the problem. OurAD said that any AD worth a lick always has a short list of candidates. Our AD didn't check his list to see if it was executable. Bad planning.

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    1. He attempted to get one guy that was a dream guy. The rest he's interviewing. I'm not sure what your point is.

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  40. I completely agree with Dok, you can't blame the guy for at least trying to get Miller, in fact, if he didn't try EVERYONE would be complaining even more saying 'he didn't even try to get Miller, that should have been his first call'! It was, now he can move on to the more traditional approach of forming a list of candidates and interviewing. Give this administration a chance.

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    1. Totally agree. Why would anyone be against calling a guy who would be a great candidate? Who cares if there was a very low chance of getting him, how long does it take to make a phone call? 5 minutes? Heck, they could call Calipari and Coach K for all I care, what does it hurt?

      People seem like that are using this to make fun of Pitt like "oh wow can you believe they overrate their program so much they actually thought they could get Miller", but it's not like that at all. It's about how little effort it takes to just give it a shot and see. If your kid applied to Harvard and didn't get in, would you make fun of him for being cocky enough to apply in the first place? No, I'd say hey, if you wanna go, might as well give it a shot.

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  41. I for one (as I said elsewhere) am glad the Miller saga is over, and I don't care if I'm the only one. Sean is a very good recruiter, but if you take a look at what he's done with that talent, I'd say its less impressive than what Dixon has done with his. And I LIKE Sean, I wish him no ill will. In fact kudos to him for making the smart decision and staying put; why would he leave an area where he's got a good recruiting base in the west, and almost no competition in a sucky conference where he can wrack up tons of wins, to go to the best conference and compete against the likes of Duke, NC, Louisville, Virginina & Cuse? I'd much rather we take a shot with the rest of the field and spin the wheel.

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  42. Chris,

    What do you think about giving Brandin Knight a try for couple years and if it doesn't work it out maybe a big name coach like Sean Miller will be available then? Maybe it is right under our nose! Have a great Easter! He is Risen!!

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    1. I prefer that it's not Knight. I think it will be a bad sign.

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    2. Pitt is not a training ground!!

      It is a ACC school... former Big East powerhouse.
      Pitt has GREAT facilities!
      In a GREAT conference!

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  43. Now that Gregory at Ga.Tech. has been fired - what about Herrion as the new HC at Pitt?

    He was Gregory's top man there I believe.

    I thought he did pretty well as Dixon's top guy while here.

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    1. He'd be great as a top assistant. Pitt will have to recruit all over the east and Herrion is one of the best on the eastern seaboard.

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